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2:26 AM
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A: How do I handle network timeouts in REBOL?

BrettFor error handling use TRY and test the result: >> err: try [read http://localhost] ** Access error: protocol error: "Timeout" >> if all [error? err err/id = 'protocol err/arg1 = "Timeout"] ["Got a timeout."] == "Got a timeout."

 
2:51 AM
@rgchris I don't think that one would be easy to delete. We could all symbolically downvote it. I just did. But SO doesn't like to go with deletion of historical things like that, just really bad questions.
I successfully triggered deletion of two really bad ones, like "Is Rebol dead?", but there was no useful information or discussion on those. So the deletion was approved by other moderators. Don't see that happening when there are that many answers.
 
3:03 AM
@onetom Here be dragons. Simply put, the lexer/parser is hand-optimized code, not generated by a formal system. When you hit issues like this, then you understand what @rgchris and @earl and I are griping about... and why we have the desire to get this stuff hammered out in a more formal way.
To Do on Rebol3 Community Development
Having syntax compatibility across Rebol and Red helps in most every conceivable scenario. Red's grammar is currently laid out via Rebol PARSE rules, in red/lexer.r. Rebol's scanner is currently ...
To do: Hex-valued literal notation (Rebol has none, Red uses FFh, FFFFh, FFFFFFFFh)
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@HostileFork im all for formal syntax definition and generated parser; u don't have to convince me...
 
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Q: Evaluating a "variable variable"

Darrell BrogdonI'm creating a dynamic variable ("Variable variable" in PHP parlance) with the following: foo: "test1" set to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5 But how do I get the value of the resulting variable named "test1_result_data" dynamically? I tried the following: probe to-word (rejoin [f...

 
3:22 AM
@RebolBot
set 'test1 4
get to-word "test1"
 
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>> set 'test1 4 get 'test1
== 4
@kealist That's very interesting.
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>> set 'test1 4 get to-word "test1"
*** ERROR
** Script error: test1 word is not bound to a context
** Where: get
** Near: get to-word "test1"
 
@RebolBot
test1: 4
get test1
Hmm I guess I still am a little confused by the difference between:

`a: 4`
`set 'a 4`
 
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A: Evaluating a "variable variable"

Xevelionprobe do (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) from http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-4.html#section-4.6

 
Who is @Xevelion?
 
I was wondering that myself
 
3:36 AM
Guy who answers my dumb questions. :)
 
@DarrellBrogdon You are using Rebol2, I assume?
 
Yes
Would the answer be different in Rebol3 and/or Red?
 
@DarrellBrogdon Well, the second line of code in your question does not work in Rebol3
set to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5
@RebolBot
foo: "test1"
set to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5
 
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>> foo: "test1" set to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5
*** ERROR
** Script error: test1_result_data word is not bound to a context
** Where: set
** Near: set to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5
 
How would you do it in Rebol3
 
3:39 AM
Still working on it.... But set functions differently than I assumed it would
and grounding to a halt...for the moment
@RebolBot
set to-lit-word "test" 4
 
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; rebol.com/r3/docs/errors/script-not-defined.html
>> set to-lit-word "test" 4
*** ERROR
** Script error: 'test word is not bound to a context
** Where: set
** Near: set to-lit-word "test" 4
 
3:56 AM
How can one deal with a string to make it a valid word! or lit-word! for set?
My response to R3: "I know it's not bound to a context! That's what set is supposed to do!"
 
4:25 AM
@RebolBot help
 
I respond to these commands
Note: [] means optional input or shows expected datatype, (|) means choice:
(do|do/2|do/red|do/boron) expression "evaluates Rebol/Rebol-like expression in a sandboxed interpreter"
(hi|hello|goodnight|goodbye|bye|[good][night|morning|afternoon|evening]) some-text "returns a greeting to the user who greeted bot"
cc id "retrieves curecode data"
delete [ loud ] "in reply to a bot message will delete if in time"
do/ideone which-lang [word! string! integer!] expression "evaluates a source expression for the specified language"
 
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4:34 AM
@GrahamChiu I made a change to one of rebolbot's commands
 
@kealist which one? Was it a pull request?
 
I'm not so familiar with GIT, using it for the first time testing things.
 
@kealist Does anyone get familiar with it?
Seems to me that you have use it regularly before it sticks!
 
@GrahamChiu I'm not sure! Let me see how to do a pull request, give me a couple min. It's the show links by user command
 
@GrahamChiu that's what i keep saying. it's impossible to get familiar with git :P unlike with darcs for example... even if git sticks, it sticks like dirty: u want to get rid of it...
 
4:37 AM
@onetom hehe
@onetom but Darcs is somewhat harder to setup for windows clients
 
@GrahamChiu I also am not sure how to test the code because I don't have rebolbot configured. I don't want to set my account up as a bot at the moment
 
@kealist we just setup adhoc rooms for testing ...
you don't normally test in this room
 
@kealist You can get a private room with RebolBot. But remember...
 
@GrahamChiu so I should just use my account for it in an alternative room?
 
@kealist Yes. Create another private room. Get the new credentials. Give those to your bot. And also the new room number for the config.
 
4:45 AM
@GrahamChiu figured out and made a pull request, but let me test it.
 
@kealist too late, it's been merged
 
@GrahamChiu gah! I haven't even started yet! Give me a minute first!
one should especially test code from ME first
 
@kealist It's just the repo .. not live
I guess we could have used 'ajoin instead of 'rejoin since there is no need to coerce it into a string
 
@HostileFork @rgchris Can we do this this the opposite way and upvote the ideal question to the top of the list of Rebol QA?
 
@kealist Easier to get it to the top of the list if we downvote the one we don't like. :-) But there are anti-gaming algorithms on that sort of thing. I do however think that was an irrationally over-upvoted question that should have been closed earlier.
 
4:56 AM
It would be irrational to believe that human endeavors can be governed by rationality.
@HostileFork what have you decided what to do next?
 
@GrahamChiu I think I'm going to edit the industrial automation talk. It's kind of a big deal that this company we'd never heard of has like 7 Rebol programmers and automates stuff at Dannon etc. I'll try and be faster with it. I took a relatively long time with the "What is Red" because I feel there needed to be something on the web like that... and @DocKimbel sometimes gets on a grumpy note with me thinking that I spend too much time on Rebol when in his mind "the writing is on the wall"...
I'm certain he sees my Saphirion debates as a sort of Don Quixote thing, like "why are you bothering". But I just have a different angle on it.
 
@HostileFork so you need to change your icon into a lance
 
@GrahamChiu A trident suffices.
I do kind of want to code though. I'm tired of doing non coding things.
They're necessary, because apparently no one else will do them
 
Probably a lot of us are mainly interested in things we can use from the conference.
At present I'm just in holding mode .. waiting for a tcp bug fix
 
5:12 AM
@RebolBot
set load "hello" 5
print hello
@RebolBot delete
 
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>> set load "hello" 5 print hello
5
 
much less frustrating resullt. I still don't like that set evaluates its first argument sometimes
 
@HostileFork so, if you were to do some coding, what next? Something on the Trello lists?
 
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A: Evaluating a "variable variable"

kealistIn Rebol 3, the following code will work (This comes with help from @PeterAWood): foo: "test1" set load (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) array 5 do (rejoin [foo "_result_data"])

 
5:32 AM
@HostileFork I downvoted them, but seems too far to go. I keep adding 0 point questions, which aren't helping!
@HostileFork I would like the automation talk or if there really is a practical RED second talk
 
@GrahamChiu I want to write a drop-in Rebol replacement for an already used tool that has a sucky implementation. But it does seem that as I look at this, one keeps hitting little weird edges.
@kealist The Rebmu talk is the best one though. :-)
 
@HostileFork true :)
 
I'd like to fairly soon see a rebol.net which uses the RebolBot database to feed a clone of the chat here, and aggregates goings on... a hub... and I will provide hosting for rebmu.rebol.net
I don't understand why we don't have a recode.rebol.net ready to go. :-/
I'm sure @rgchris is ready for quartermaster.rebol.net, @earl is ready for downloads.rebol.org, we supposedly aren't far from help.rebol.org but we just have to move these things along
@kealist We were already a bit tired by the second Red talk, I'll have to review the material, but again: remember, I wasn't in charge. I'm working with what I have and I would really rather be coding or seeing this other progress happening. The automation talk is my likely next target.
"What is Red" seemed more important
 
@HostileFork what is the hold up on the sites? Isn't the copying done?
 
@kealist We are past the projected scraping time, so it should be done.
Robert was the point man on that, but he doesn't hang out here...
 
5:43 AM
Email?
Night time
Good evening all!
 
@kealist Nite...
 
@GrahamChiu last time i checked it was just very slightly "harder", but it's true it doesnt have any installer like git. i was thinking maybe it would worth to make one with rebol...
 
6:41 AM
@onetom I've written installers in rebol so perhaps it could be done
 
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A: Evaluating a "variable variable"

BrettAs your example code is REBOL 2, you can use GET to obtain the value of the word: >> get to-word (rejoin [foo "_result_data"]) == [none none none none none] REBOL 3 handles contexts differently from REBOL 2. So when creating a new word you will need to handle it's context explicitly otherwise ...

 
7:14 AM
@GrahamChiu anything open sourced of those?
 
8:10 AM
@TGD @TGD look for lookup. There are a few examples available on the net
 
TGD
8:33 AM
@sqlab I will try lookup with r3 on my RasPi later. This is the modification of Carl`s tcp-serve.reb script I will use:
server/awake: func [event] [
if event/type = 'accept [new-client first event/port]
if event/type = 'lookup [probe event/port]
false
]
 
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Q: How do I get the remote IP-Address of clients connecting to a rebol3 based server?

TGDAtm I'm playing with Carl's basic tcp test scripts and would like to know: "How to get the IP-Address of clients connecting to the server?" Any ideas? I tried to probe a client subport at the server-side but it doesn't show the remote-ip. Can someone give me hints on gathering that information....

 
 
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9:48 AM
@TGD sorry, this does not help. my hint was premature.
 
 
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1:58 PM
@HostileFork I wasn't suggesting deletion, just that we find a way to get some votes behind the questions we do care about. And to do it the right way, by having the people that know and and have accounts here vote on worthy questions/answers based on merit. It's evident that if a reasonable question receives only one or two votes that not everyone here is checking the Q/A.
We have all the questions and answers flowing through chat, it's a minor diversion to assess them as they come in, applying votes and the odd comment as appropriate. Each vote/comment (or indeed question or answer) adds value to the resource.
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2:22 PM
@rgchris Sounds good. (I check them all and upvote appropriately.)
 
2:32 PM
@RebolBot
o1: context [a: 1]
o2: context [a: 2]
o3: context [a: 3]
reduce probe reduce [bind 'a o1 bind 'a o2 bind 'a o3]
 
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>> o1: context [a: 1] o2: context [a: 2] o3: context [a: 3] reduce probe reduce [bind 'a o1 bind 'a o2 bind 'a o3]
[a a a]
== [1 2 3]
 
@RebolBot
probe blk: load "a a a"
blk/1: bind blk/1 o1: context [a: 1]
blk/2: bind blk/2 o2: context [a: 2]
blk/3: bind blk/3 o3: context [a: 3]
reduce blk
 
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>> probe blk: load "a a a" blk/1: bind blk/1 o1: context [a: 1] blk/2: bind blk/2 o2: context [a: 2] blk/3: bind blk/3 o3: context [a: 3] reduce blk
[a a a]
== [1 2 3]
 
I have trouble getting things to bind, like this: github.com/hostilefork/rebmu/blob/master/mushing.rebol#L235
 
2:55 PM
I'm not absolutely certain if this is the case, but it appears Rebol 3's 'bind doesn't alter the word, rather creates a new word, which means you'd need to set 'target again:
@RebolBot do wd: to word! "false" bind wd system/contexts/user type? get wd ; doesn't work
 
@rgchris What?
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>> wd: to word! "false" bind wd system/contexts/user type? get wd
*** ERROR
** Script error: false is not in the specified context
** Where: bind
** Near: bind wd system/contexts/user type? get wd
 
Hm, bad example...
@HostileFork When you had that code in place, did you get errors like the above?
 
posted on August 23, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] I agree with changing the default, but how about calling the new option /by instead? This would be more helpful when you do multi-level splitting, where the value you're splitting by would be an array compatible dimensions block, rather than a select compatible record size.

 
Hm:
@RebolBot do val: "false" bind? 'val
 
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>> val: "false" bind? 'val
== RESULT is an object of value:
   system          object!   [product version build platform license catal...
   do-error        none!     none
   none            none!     none
   do-commands     block!    length: 0
   browse          function! Open web browser to a URL or local file.
   func            function! Defines a user function with given spec and b...
   target          unset!    none
   url!            datatype! uniform resource locator or identifier
 
3:10 PM
@RebolBot do this: func [val][bind? 'val] this "false"
 
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>> this: func [val] [bind? 'val] this "false"
== true
 
Why is 'bind? returning true here?
That'd be a bug, right?
 
@rgchris Weird.
There's both "bind?" and "bound?" and they do the same thing. Shouldn't it be one or the other? bound? makes more sense.
 
bound? is the official function name: issue.cc/r3/1819
 
I say bind? should be in R3/Backward and not in by default. We need to start R3/Backward soon.
Things get complicated, then you go searching for REBNATIVE(bindq) and don't find it. It's REBNATIVE(boundq)
Just one of many confusions that such things cause
 
3:21 PM
In your unmushing script, you're attempting to bind each new word as you encounter it, is that right?
 
Well, I break apart the incoming word which is in mixed case into parts and then need those parts to be bound.
 
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A: Interleave blocks, or make object out of two blocks (field names and values)

BrianHHere's something that requires at least Rebol 3: func [ "Create an object based on some words and values." words [any-word! block!] "Word or block of words" values [any-type!] "Value or block of values" /local object ][ object: make object! either block? words [length? words]...

 
frame is a REBSER. Somehow something that should be a series/object-class value is being proxied into a logic! by SET_OBJECT, if I'm reading this correctly. :-/
Should be easy to catch in a debugger, I don't have one set up at the moment
Hello @SoleSoul, what's up?
 
@HostileFork Hi. Have been busy at work. I just came here for a few minutes to see what's new.
I've found a candidate script at work to be written in Rebol 3. Hope it goes right.
 
@SoleSoul full stars list
Nifty. Well, we are here to help.
 
3:34 PM
I'll be back when I'll take my go at it.
@HostileFork By full star list you mean I should read the "show all 517"?
Looks useful. I don't have time now but I'll probably go over it tomorrow.
See you.
 
@SoleSoul Just saying that one can quickly browse, go read the context surrounding, etc. Some people feel that it's hard to catch up, and that the unstructured nature of the chat doesn't file everything away under a topic. I say it shouldn't have to, and there are these other ways.
Cya
So why is it that chemical weapons are worse than killing people with guns and tanks, again?
Maybe I'm missing something. Isn't it all bad?
 
@HostileFork I suspect the binding problem is in attempting to bind new words when they don't exist in any context (and Rebol 3 doesn't like that). But if that was the case, you would have received errors. Need a more succinct framing of that problem...
 
@rgchris I run into bind things I don't understand a lot. e.g. binding integer! here
 
3:51 PM
I am hating bind things at the moment!
@RebolBot
source false
 
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>> source false
false: false
 
@RebolBot
source integer!
 
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>> source integer!
integer!: integer!
 
Yeah, the whole bootstrapping stuff should be explained somewhere. :-/
 
@RebolBot
print equal? 'b to-lit-word "b"
print same? 'b to-lit-word "b"
print bind 'c system/contexts/user
bind to-lit-word "d" system/contexts/user
 
3:59 PM
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; rebol.com/r3/docs/errors/script-not-in-context.html
>> print equal? 'b to-lit-word "b" print same? 'b to-lit-word "b" print bind 'c system/contexts/user bind to-lit-word "d" system/contexts/user
true
false
c
*** ERROR
** Script error: 'd is not in the specified context
** Where: bind
** Near: bind to-lit-word "d" system/contexts/user
 
I can't get my head around the last result. I would think that set or bind would take an unbound word and set or bind it. Maybe set is just supposed to be for modification rather than creation?
and a bound word has to have a context first? It still just bugs me that I can type a word and it is automatically bound but can't generate a word that is bound
without load which doesn't quite seem right to me
maybe my thinking just isn't right
@RebolBot
print 'a
print to-lit-word "a"
 
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>> print 'a print to-lit-word "a"
a
'a
 
@kealist You're not alone. These make fine Q&A.
 
4:21 PM
@kealist Typing a word (console) is the same as loading it. Check the source for 'load to see how binding occurs...
 
@rgchris so with a script, it is loaded as well.
Then that is starting to make more sense
 
Right. A console line is a script.
 
4:35 PM
I think I just don't know the higher level ideas behind why it's useful to not bind a word when it is created. Maybe that's a better direction to research
Or I could just stop asking questions and LOAD!
 
4:51 PM
Perhaps, but seems heavy-handed...
@RebolBot do source intern
 
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>> source intern
intern: make function! [[
    {Imports (internalize) words and their values from the lib into the user context.}
    data [block! any-word!] "Word or block of words to be added (deeply)"
    /local index usr
][
    index: 1 + length? usr: system/contexts/user
    data: bind/new :data usr
    resolve/only usr lib index
    :data
]]
 
You could break that down even more, but for the most part 'intern would do it for you...
@RebolBot do get intern to word! "false"
 
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>> get intern to word! "false"
== false
 
Which begs the question: is 'intern intended only for 'load, or is it supposed to be a generic function. If so, is it the best name?
'internalize ?
 
@rgchris Something like that would be better. It's a weird name.
 
5:05 PM
Or 'initialize
 
That's a bit too vague. Here @BrianH suggests it's user-facing
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A: Why can't I bind things like EMAIL! in the global context on interpreter startup?

BrianHBinding doesn't add words to the context, unless you tell it to - you have to use bind/new. >> get bind/new to-word "email?" bind? 'system But your question shows a couple misconceptions about the R3 binding model. There is no single global context in R3, not like R2. The word 'system in your ...

 
But to get back to the point (bind)—'intern uses bind/new to add a word to a context. Don't fully understand how 'resolve works, but this function is where the 'load magic occurs.
Hmm, right. What Brian said :)
(I don't fully understand 'resolve, but it's clear that's how values migrate from the 'system context to the 'user context)
 
5:30 PM
I think that this stuff, because it is not understood very well, doesn't get the same level of scrutiny that other pieces of the system do. bind? seems very obviously the wrong name, for instance, and I'm surprised I didn't know about bound? until today
 
Could well be 'bound-to
 
6:07 PM
@rgchris Well, do you prefer length? or length-of? I'd say the former. Could be binding?
 
6:18 PM
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Q: Segmentation fault when loading a module, what am I doing wrong?

Ast DerekI'm playing with REBOL 2.101.0.2.5 under Mac OS X 10.6.8. I created a simple module file (test.r) to test and ask a different question: REBOL [ type: module exports: [ external-method ] ] internal-method: func [ arg ] [ print join {Internal method with arg: } arg ] ext...

 
@kealist You'd have to use BIND/new for the last example. BIND doesn't by default extend an context with slots for words not already contained in that context.
 
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Q: Segmentation fault when loading a module, what am I doing wrong?

Ast DerekI'm playing with REBOL 2.101.0.2.5 (Build 26-Feb-2013/18:15:30) under Mac OS X 10.6.8. I created a simple module file (test.r) to test and ask a different question: REBOL [ type: module exports: [ external-method ] ] internal-method: func [ arg ] [ print join {Internal ...

 
@kealist Hmm, that may be a rather difficult point to understand, I fear. "why it's useful to not bind a word when it is created." -- it's not about "usefulness", but about what is possible and/or sensible. In Rebol's dynamic semantics, you don't have a "current context" available during execution. That implies, that when you dynamically create a word with the lowest-level primitives, you simply don't have a useful context available to bind those words to. Therefore they are left unbound.
The alternative would be to bind to one of the "well-known" (global-like) contexts (such as user, lib, or sys). However, that is a somewhat dangerous default, that causes more trouble than it helps.
When you use LOAD, that's exactly what happens: you bind to a well-known context, and are explicit about this binding being ok.
 
This build numbering system for Rebol 3 is not good. :-/ I always forget the version 3 bump hasn't actually happened.
 
6:35 PM
Well, the pains of using a relatively constrained datatype ... :)
Just recently got reminded that the original decision for inverting the alpha channel in RGBA values in R3 was so that opaque colours (alpha 1.0 or 255, usually) in Rebol compare equal to the value with the alpha channel left out. I.e. 100.110.120 = 100.110.120.0.
Well-intentioned, probably, but turned out rather painful in practice.
Same story for the version numbering. Unfortunately, the constraints of tuple! don't allow us anything but numeric components. So no way to have 3.0a42 or 3.0rc1.
 
Hrm...
 
So we either state that the whole 3.0.x series is alpha and unstable (and 3.1.x beta?) and that R3 "1.0" will start at 3.2.x. Or we reset to 0.0.0, and start an R3-specific numbering. Or we stay with the current 2.x < 3.0 "cuteness".
In any case, I plan to add more detailed build information to the binaries, to help with more precise identification.
 
@earl 3.0 as alpha and 3.1 as beta may not be the best, but it's at least better.
I don't think the "cuteness" is very cute.
 
7:08 PM
@HostileFork length-of, works with words-of and body-of.
 
@rgchris Hrm. Should they be words? and body?
 
Or have of be an op! and write: words of foo body of foo
 
I definitely am increasingly disliking things like to-set-word. It feels like the hyphenated stuff is very user-level-declaration, while the punchy names are "almost" keywords... to set-word! is better.
 
@HostileFork You don't like '-', I don't like '/' :)
 
I'm okay with '-' when used in the right places. I started at first writing Rebol in a sort of camelBack because I found the hyphens distracting, they were too minus-y and bias led me to have a hard time reading the code if I used them to break words.
 
7:12 PM
@HostileFork Please no! Don't ....
 
But as I started thinking of them as a good way to express compound names, not liking things like to-set-word follows in a way, because it's taking this very common operation and making it look like a user declared variable or function.
@earl We're just trying to figure out the guiding rationale here. :-)
 
Why don't we just add a question mark to everything that returns a value ...
 
@earl I starred it, and your name is by it. Hehe.
 
And maybe an /ONLY as well, for good measure.
 
wort?/only
New plan for all Rebol functions: contract them, add a T on the end, and an /only refinement. If they return anything other than unset, end in a question mark. I think we're onto something.
 
7:17 PM
Sounds like a plan.
 
I'll write up the CureCode ticket
Then there's my new marketing solution and T-shirt slogan... "Rebol: The /ONLY Way to Make Code Clearer"
 
@earl I can't believe this hasn't been suggested before! Terrific idea!
 
And an exclamation point on everything with a side effect. Oh wait, that's taken... hm. Asterisk?
 
Ampersand.
take? reverse&? next? load? string
 
Hey, sweet! Consistency at last.
 
7:29 PM
Guys - what are you smoking? :-)
 
Well, I think for true consistency we should flip this around, because modifying routines in Ruby or whatever end in exclamation points. So let's use the ampersands on types.
And we never settled the port! naming problem, so it would be streamlike&
For stream-like-things
 
Any streamlike& in a storm!
I get the sense we're reinventing Perl...
 
If Carl would just grow some facial hair and get a Hawaiian shirt, it would do wonders for the adoption. We all know: no facial hair means no language success. @DocKimbel, get working on that beard.
 
@HostileFork Grace Hopper does not agree.
 
7:46 PM
@DocKimbel Maybe a cool hat would suffice. (Dr. Rebmu has all the bases covered.)
I will have to have a page on that under "Rebmu's success is guaranteed"
 
@HostileFork That's the best I could achieve (10 years ago):
 
Pretty slick. If I grow any beard out nowadays, I get random stray white hairs in it. :-/ Being old sucks.
 
8:40 PM
You can use this ¡
¡reverse! for example
and ¿length? for sake of completeness
 
@earl "However, that is a somewhat dangerous default, that causes more trouble than it helps."

Can you explain a little more what that means?
 
9:22 PM
@kealist Assume you have the following code:
foo: func [x] [
  get to-word "x"
]
Where would you expect to-word "x" to be bound (assuming that to-word would bind automatically)?
 
10:20 PM
Where are these Spanish UpsideDown exclamation and questionMarks on my keyboard?
*so glad no camelcase in ReBoL*
 

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