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2:00 PM
@DeadMG With a name like GameDev... I'm sure they draw in their share of 10 year olds who think just because they play videogames 12 hours a day, they can program one
 
I was trying to figure out if you were accusing me of being childish
 
lol
I would never do that!
 
I'm sure
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what does that even mean?
 
2:01 PM
@TonyTheLion I'm trying to figure out if it was suppose to a Y U NO meme... executed so terribly wrong.
 
@TonyTheLion It's a memetic mutation from a typo of a "!" as a "1" -> "THEY SO SLOW!!!!11!" -> "THEY SO SLOW!!!!eleven!" -> "THEY SO SLOW!!!!twelve!".
 
I didn't either.
 
Xeo
> I know that templates can't have virtual methods
 
> Buffer overflow results in different behavior in gcc and g++
 
2:06 PM
once someone was scared by my answer 'too late', which I typed in (2 18), dummy did not understand
 
templates can't be virtual methods
 
but virtual methods can use templates
 
I know nothing of templates
I thought thats what classes and inheritance were for
 
er, no.
you only use inheritance if you can't use templates.
 
JBL
2:08 PM
FLAGS? FLAGS? WTF. Fix your buggy code and it all goes away. There is no g++ -ffix-my-bugs. — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
Lol
 
in an entire year+ of C++ in school, I don't know that I was ever taught template usefulness
ok
 
@DeadMG woot?
 
@Chemistpp Then it was a fruitless year.
 
so it's not such a bad thing that I haven't been using them
 
JBL
g++ -ignore-undefined-behavior
 
2:08 PM
just goes to show that C++ in school is worthless junk
 
@Daniel Nah. I have a very good understanding of memory allocation, structure, and data structures
@DeadMG Could very well be but I didn't major in comp sci. should have because I loved it
 
@Chemistpp so you can do convenient C then
 
thought I'd have a hard time getting a job
 
no you shouldn't be
computer science degree is worthless, I would know
 
shit
 
2:10 PM
there's a group on facebook named "C Plus Plus (C++)", could be the saddest group of c++ "developers" to ever walk this planet
 
@Chemistpp If you didn't do templates, you don't know anything about C++ for shit.
 
and I mean "sad" as in "bloody stupid fcuks"
 
@DeadMG Shit, I guess I should do some tutorials to understand them eh
 
i'm still learning new things about templates.. it's been about 10 years now since i started
 
@Chemistpp I had a bunch of them, but they're down now.
 
2:11 PM
not writing templates in c++ is like watching porn without mastrubating.
15
 
@DeadMG They essential give generic behavior to types the template is a applied to?
 
@DeadMG What happened?
 
@refp I knew what wanking was lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Had to change from ASP.NET hosting to PHP hosting and I haven't converted the pages yet.
 
@refp Do it for the plot!
 
2:12 PM
@Chemistpp I didn't reply to you specifically, also; mastrubating sounds better than wanking in that context.
 
@Chemistpp they allow you to write 'code' that is executed at compile time
 
On shared pointers lol, does anyone know if you [=]() { a_shared_ptr->blah(); } if the shared pointer that is captured from the local scope is copied or? How does that work (short of me setting up a test case to try)
 
that's why I use PHP & perl ... can be used everywhere window or unix
 
@refp It seemed pretty good either way
 
also another reason my perl scripts are so obsolete
 
2:13 PM
@willj Okay, so I'm going to go read about them now
 
I now have Internet access at home. Oh happy day.
 
Does java provide better audio manipulation that c++?
 
@bluethief ...
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 nhaa.. you write PHP and perl because they both start with a P, as in PENIS. (python, PASCAL, prolog, powershell, included).
 
JBL
Wat ?
 
2:14 PM
@Daniel Interesting. I read
 
@bluethief C++ doesn't provide "audio manipulation".
 
@Daniel I read that = is caputre by value so wouldn't the capture capture the address the poitner is pointing too?
 
@Daniel [=] will capture all local variables by value.
 
So the question is... erm... dumb?
 
@bluethief Neither do offer one.
 
Xeo
2:15 PM
@TheForestAndtheTrees All used local variables
 
@refp but I am mainly a C++ person and it is not because it starts with the same letter as C# & cunt
 
@TheForestAndtheTrees right, capture by value. Sweet cheers :)
 
@TheForestAndtheTrees correction; the used local variables (inside the lambda)
 
C#.. count that among another thing my school skipped over
at least until your 4th year
 
so?
ignorant students.
 
JBL
2:16 PM
IMO languages @ school aren't relevant.
 
@refp So I don't know it?
 
@Chemistpp ... and?
 
JBL
I'd say Maths + algorithms are much more important
 
@refp I wish I did
 
JBL
@Chemistpp Get a book and learn, what's the problem ?
 
2:17 PM
@refp Lots of code exampls in C#
 
@Chemistpp then learn it by yourself, get a book and read
 
@JBL pff, No time
 
I'm not talking to @Chemistpp anymore, he's the reason you should never hire anyone just because of the education they have on paper.
 
JBL
@Chemistpp Bullshit.
 
@JBL BS? I just finished my PHD in chemistry. I have to learn that too
 
JBL
2:18 PM
Either it really interests you and you'll find time, or it doesn't that much.
 
@refp you guys absolutely have me wrong
 
@Chemistpp PHD's mean shit in the real world
 
What I tried to say, was that... if you wanted to create something like a spectrogram and if you know C++/Java equally well, which would help you make it faster/easier?
 
@Chemistpp nhaa, what you wrote says a lot about you
 
@refp WTF is the real world?
 
2:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes there's is no such thing, this is the Internet.
 
@refp I would love to learn it. I really don't have the time. Ihave to learn about proteins, cabrohyrates, vaccines, immunization, microbiology, organic cynthesis
Programming is my hobby
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes (in a true working environment, that is)
@Chemistpp then don't say it's your schools fault for you not learning it; if you want to learn it, learn it.
 
JBL
@Chemistpp You do afford time for your hobbies don't you ?
 
@refp fair.
 
JBL
(Even a little bit)
 
2:19 PM
@refp What's a "true" working environment?
Are there "false" working environments?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the same as any working environment where @Chemistpp wouldn't be working
 
@JBL yes, but not much :( It would take me a year to know as much c# as I already know C++ probably.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes could you stop trollin'? it's tuesday, I'm bored and out of smokes
 
@refp again ref, you have no idea where I work. Or that I have a job interview with one of the top 5 schools in the world in 2 weeks
 
@Chemistpp out of curiosity, from a scale from 1 to 10.. how much C++ do you know?
 
2:20 PM
@Chemistpp You hardly know any C++, so it should take you about five minutes.
 
@refp but you can sit there and act like I don't understand learning
@DeadMG lol
 
@Chemistpp I just know that I don't want to work with you
 
@refp I'm not.
 
@refp maybe a 4.
 
@bluethief easier: the one for wich you can find good libraries dealing with your problem domain
 
2:21 PM
I'm trying to ascertain what is this distinction you are trying to draw.
 
@refp lol. Yea right. I'm the one who learns to fix everything in my lab
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are there "file not found" ones?
 
JBL
@refp How the hell could anyone, especially inexperienced persons, rate themselves on this scale.... ?
 
@TheForestAndtheTrees does that imply that it's a good lab, or a bad lab where you happen to be the best?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unfortunately this is not an option. — Adam Siemion 48 secs ago
Erm
What the fuck.
 
2:21 PM
@JBL yes, it was a trick question (especially since he "doesn't do templates")
 
That was a reply to:
@AdamSiemion Yes, it is. You probably should... fix it. — R. Martinho Fernandes 4 mins ago
 
@refp Ot
 
JBL
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's when you stop commenting in this thread...
@refp Oh... I guess I'm too naive...
 
@refp It's not that I don't do templates. I've never learned them and have never ran into a coding problem I couldn't solve. SO...
 
ITT Noobs
 
Fucking ponies
3
 
JBL
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks for my new wallpaper.
 
@TonyTheLion I personally don't make a habit of fucking ponies, but thanks for your status update.
8
 
2:24 PM
@Chemistpp you got three options to choose from: 1) you are the uncrowned king of problem solving 2) the "problems" you are facing doesn't require much knowledge to solve 3) you solve your problems in a.. let's say; "not very good way"
 
@refp Considering I program for fun, I w*ould say 2.
 
if your reply to the above is; "well I solved it, didn't I?".. well, you can dig a ditch with a spoon but I'd prefer a shovel
 
GUISE
 
@refp Becuase the problems I face in chemistry would make you cry
 
I simply don't have ponies to fuck.
 
2:24 PM
Go argue somewhere else
because we don't care
 
not like I want it though
 
@TonyTheLion I'm not arguing, I'm being the typical @refp who just keep conversations going for the fun of it
 
JBL
Yeah, this room isn't for programming nor C++ discussions obviously.
 
@refp lol
 
Xeo
@JBL Correct
 
2:25 PM
@JBL I quite agree.
 
I don't consider myself as arguing?
 
@JBL True, NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER discuss C++ in here.
 
on that note, I shipped my first ever Wide distribution today.
 
I am simply defending myself from Refp's self righteous judgments.
 
I hope you guys don't start arguing about whether you are arguing or not.
 
2:25 PM
a few hours ago you were discussing atheism, and if it was a religion or not.. if god existed, etc etc. I see no paragraph in the standard referring to those topics either
 
Xeo
The only one who can kick off a C++ discussion is @LucDanton, but he seems to be on vacation or something
 
JBL
But Wide is ok I guess.
 
C++ should be named ++C. /discuss
 
@Xeo Bastard.
 
JBL
2:26 PM
@Xeo Not even @JerryCoffin ?
 
Xeo
@JBL Nah, we're just bashing Wide.
And bashing is fine
 
@JBL We don't discuss Wide. It's like fightclub
 
if I want to use override
 
@refp The one about self-immolation.
 
Xeo
We're bashing C++ all the time in here.
@BartekBanachewicz You write "override"
 
2:26 PM
Impressive.
 
@Chemistpp I don't think they would make me cry since I'm not interested in chemistry, and if I were; I'd learn what I needed to learn to solve them (even if they came from the self-claimed chemistry king (aka. You)
 
JBL
@Xeo Bashing counts as a subset of discussing in my book.
 
Xeo
Nah
 
Man, I'm doing this wrong.
I don't have near enough Decays in this code.
How could I let this pass.
 
Xeo
lol
 
2:27 PM
lol
 
error C3668: 'WinAPIOGLWindow::kill' : method with override specifier 'override' did not override any base class methods
fuck me if it doesn't
 
JBL
@refp You didn't get yourself the latest draft ?
 
Xeo
Robot has dead code he needs to decay.
 
@BartekBanachewicz fuck you.
 
@refp easy to say. People fail out of total synthesis labs all the time. And if I was in your profession, I would have all the time in the world to learn the lexicon of various languages.
 
2:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Fuck you then.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz const, noexcept, blah?
 
@Abyx I think its witty name helped to make C++ successful.
 
@JBL you must be talking about a different draft
 
@Chemistpp Their lexicon is irrelevant.
 
@Chemistpp are you a male model as well? well, high-five!
 
2:28 PM
@Xeo class Base { void kill() { } }; class Derived { void kill() override { } };
 
@refp he's mainly a noob
 
@BartekBanachewicz Forgot virtual on the base class.
 
@DeadMG what
how is virtual related to "override"?
 
@Chemistpp too bad, I have problems that would make you cry
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz C++ doesn't default to virtual, d'uh
 
2:29 PM
well, if you mark Derived::kill as override, then it must override a virtual base class function.
 
Xeo
So kill is a non-virtual function
 
@DeadMG why does it have to be virtual? o.O
 
since Base::kill is not virtual, then Derived::kill does not override it, and therefore override rejects your code.
 
Xeo
Because that's what "overriding" means?
 
it fucking does override it
 
@BartekBanachewicz What do you think override does?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because otherwise, you cannot override it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No. It shadows it.
 
JBL
@BartekBanachewicz It hides it currently...
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz You don't understand the meaning of "override"
 
2:29 PM
oh crap
and the difference is?
 
Xeo
Erm
 
er, the same difference between a non-virtual and virtual function?
 
Xeo
Are you serious right now?
 
JBL
Ok I'm scared...
 
Xeo
@JBL no, get out
 
2:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz base_ref.kill(); always calls the base function without virtual, and always calls the derived function with virtual.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz because you can only override virtuals?
 
if you have Base* p that points to Derived and you call kill, then if Derived::kill overrides Base::kill then Derived::kill is called.
 
JBL
@Xeo Damn what did I type... -_-
 
user784668
ITT: Bartek doesn't know C++.
 
> Added some more missing include paths (can't get enough of them).
 
2:30 PM
guys, I know how polymorphism works.
 
JBL
Was correct to be scared..
 
That commit message made me laugh.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz You just showed you don't.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Obviously not :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's what she said
 
Xeo
2:31 PM
override does nothing more than make sure that you actually override something
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then why did you ask?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because I can't understand why override can't be used to guarantee shadowing (if you like to call it that for nonvirtual functions)
 
The only thing you need for shadowing (which is dubious anyway, but let's play with it), is to have the same name.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz what
Shadowing happens as soon as you have the same name
Overriding only if you have the same signature / function type
 
hm.
that would make even more sense then
 
2:32 PM
override is to make sure you are overriding and not just accidentally shadowing.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz because the very name override suggest it's used to guarantee overriding?
 
because nobody needs a shadow keyword.
 
In nonvirtual case override would guarantee match of the shadowing function
 
Xeo
wtf
 
@DeadMG Actually, C# has one.
 
2:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz But nobody needs that.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz why would it?
 
@DeadMG but as you see there's no shadow and override doesn't give that
 
(Not by name, but by semantics)
 
@Fanael that's a proposal.
@DeadMG I need that.
 
Xeo
1 min ago, by Xeo
Shadowing happens as soon as you have the same name
 
2:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Right, because nobody needs shadow.
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz that's why I'm asking! Why would it?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes o'rly?
 
@Fanael to ensure you're shadowing by the same signature
 
user784668
@BartekBanachewicz But why?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not how shadowing works.
all Derived overloads shadow all Base overloads.
it's not a one to one correspondence like overriding.
 
2:34 PM
@DeadMG hm, indeed.
 
@ScottW <3
 
@DeadMG There's no implicit shadowing there (and to be honest, explicit shadowing is never used; who the fuck needs that). You have to use something like public new void Foo() to shadow.
 
What did you write?
 
@refp That was directed to you. You see that @? That's because you told me I don't know how to solve problems.
 
@DeadMG couldn't it statically shadow just one overload then?
 
2:35 PM
YOU SUCK. BYE. SCOTT.
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes @BartekBanachewicz needs that
 
@BartekBanachewicz It could, but again, basically nobody ever needs that.
 
> Hooves up if you're ready to start this week off with a smile!
WELL THANK YOU HASBRO.
 
@DeadMG it's pretty much the same guarantee as with override; one can argue "who needs that"
 
@ScottW oh that sucks
 
2:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Er, it's not at all the same guarantee.
 
@DeadMG let's compare it then
 
@BartekBanachewicz Lack of override was shown to cause problems.
 
the difference is that if I have virtual void f(int); in the Base and virtual void f(long); in the Derived, overriding is completely broken.
 
If anything the mere existence of shadowing was shown to cause problems.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: ITT Banachewicz has no idea about C++ [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [kbok-still-graduated] [no-helpdesk]
 
2:36 PM
but shadowing is completely fine if they are non-virtual.
there's no reason to match the signatures, because shadowing does not require a signature match to function.
 
@DeadMG depends on what "completely fine" means for you.
@DeadMG consistency, maybe?
 
Xeo
@refp @Chemistpp can you go and take that senseless discussion somewhere else?
 
PLONK
 
@Xeo I am a null-ptr @Chemistpp keep messing with, it's UB
 
@Xeo Yeah we ought too.
I'm done then
 
2:38 PM
@Chemistpp nhaa, let's just end it right here. good luck with your problems related to onion cutting!
 
@BartekBanachewicz maybe?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes exactly, because of its "unconditional" behaviour
 
I'm not unwilling to learn, nor do I think programmers are below me. Just to make it clear.
 
JBL
@refp I'm not sure the C++ Lounge actually wants UB in there.
 
I hope it really didn't sound like I said that
 
2:39 PM
UB <3
 
@DeadMG are you serious with the bin-moving? we should just remove this channel all together if that is how we are supposed to play it
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's not feasible.
 
you were asked to take it outside.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Write a proposal, post on std-proposals, expect a tweet from @stdasylum
 
@DeadMG I wanted to use override now to guarantee I am not making two functions accidentally, i.e. that my nonvirtual derived class is really changing the behaviour
 
2:39 PM
Note how override is optional.
 
@Xeo We need a loungeasylum tweet thingy too
 
Adding a mandatory keyword for shadowing is a breaking change.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes note how my proposed behaviour of override for shadowing is optional too
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can guarantee that just by calling through a Derived pointer.
which you are going to have to do anyway to use a non-overridden function.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Adding an optional keyword does not prevent accidental shadowing, so it's worthless.
 
2:40 PM
@DeadMG I am not using any pointers dammit
 
then it's extra worthless.
 
Xeo
I think I know what he's going on about
 
The only use of such a keyword is like you have in C#: it's mandatory to prevent unwanted shadowing.
 
Xeo
He wants to make sure he actually shadows something, and doesn't have a typo
 
to call a non-overridden function on Derived, the static type must be known; so the compiler can check all functions for validity.
 
Xeo
2:40 PM
The usefulness of that is debatable, of course.
 
@Xeo Why the heck would he want that?
 
frankly, the usefulness of any base class that does not utilize overriding (and is not a CRTP-based mixin) is limited at best anyway.
 
Xeo
2 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@DeadMG I wanted to use override now to guarantee I am not making two functions accidentally, i.e. that my nonvirtual derived class is really changing the behaviour
Fuck if I know
 
@Xeo He is making two functions.
 
Xeo
56 secs ago, by Xeo
The usefulness of that is debatable, of course.
 
2:42 PM
@Xeo The nonvirtual derived class is not changing any behaviour.
 
Xeo
> i.e. that my nonvirtual derived class is really changing the behaviour
 
He's just misled.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes gimme the proper way to do that then
 
JBL
That sounds strange...
 
@BartekBanachewicz If you want the derived class to change some behaviour you want virtual.
 
JBL
2:42 PM
But then I wouldn't judge...
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes struct Base{ void foo(){} }; struct Derived : Base{ void fou(){} }; Derived d; d.foo();
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't want virtual because there will be only one derived class going to be compiled
 
@Xeo Why is Base public then?
 
@ScottW webmail makes it hard to click a link and have it load the compose automatically.
 
Xeo
1 min ago, by Xeo
Fuck if I know
 
2:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Why is the base public then?
 
argh async function argh!!!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then why even is there a public base at all?
 
@ScottW I know this. We gotta think about the dumbasses
 
if your users are not using run-time type erasure, the value of public bases is highly limited.
 
@ScottW I send an email to
 
JBL
2:43 PM
@ScottW What about emails sent blindly (without displaying the receiver mail) ?
 
what do you mean by public base?
 
a base class of public accessibility.
 
Xeo
public inheritence
 
@BartekBanachewicz If the base is not public, you don't don't have to shadow anything.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how's that?
I think I know what you mean
 
Xeo
2:44 PM
Because it's an error if anyone calls the wrong function?
 
@BartekBanachewicz The base functionality will never be accessible if it is private.
 
because if you don't specify Derived::foo, then if they want to call it, they will get an accessibility error.
 
sure, sure
 
even if Base::foo is defined.
 
Xeo
(Well, except for friends. But fuck friends.)
 
2:44 PM
I know where I fucked up then.
 
JBL
@ScottW I'm guessing, but apart from that, I can't see any reason (and even that seems pretty... minor)
 
I was trying to use that Base as nonvirtual interface.
 
@Xeo what's your twitter handle?
 
Base::jump
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Check SO profile :P
 
2:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz We have templates for that
 
@DeadMG short example?
 
@BartekBanachewicz NVI usually depends on a virtual interface for implementers.
 
Xeo
@refp Base::drop
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm.
 
@Xeo Base::ball::bat
 
2:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz template<typename Cont> std::size_t size(const Cont& c) { return c.size(); }.
voila- the size member function is an interface of Standard containers, but is not virtual.
 
that's working, yeah. but not quite what I want.
 
Cont const&, please!
 
@CPPLoungeAsylum
Silly quotes from LoungeC++
0 tweets, 0 followers, following 9 users
it exists
lets start tweeting
 
JBL
Now make it live.
 
Did you create it?
 
2:47 PM
yea
 
@TonyTheLion not that I, sehe and others were twitting with #LoungeCpp for like half a year
 
@BartekBanachewicz better late than never
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't have much choice. If you want to be able to accept several derived classes without run-time polymorphism and virtual functions, either you use a template, or perhaps you use the preprocessor to select the underlying type of a typedef and use that as a static type.
 
@TonyTheLion meh, I think #tags are made exactly for that
 
you should make it automatic, if a messages get a star from more than 50% of the users who's been active during the last minutes (with a minimum of 3) it should be tweeted, if it get more than 10 the same thing (no double tweets though)

or whatever
 
2:48 PM
@DeadMG typedef WinAPIOGLWindow OpenGLWindow;
 
right.
 
that's what I did.
 
Great, now we can twat outside of the lounge too (on twatter).
 
then there's no need for a Base class at all.
anywhere, ever.
 
Pacific Rim now with 82% on the Tomatometer.
 
2:49 PM
@DeadMG it grabs common stuff together
 
it can be private.
 
void setKeydownCb(decltype(keydownCallback) cb) {
    keydownCallback = std::move(cb);
}
@DeadMG true.
changed to private.
 
or even just a member object.
 
also true.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why not just directly expose std::function<shit> keydownCallback;?
 
Xeo
2:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You said there was only 1 derived class
 
@Xeo at one time.
 
@Xeo There is only one selected for any given compilation. There are several that might be compiled in.
 
Should I name quote the people that said it?
 
@DeadMG hm, now that I think of it because that way it can't be called from outside?
 
I follow Jalf on this one- getters and setters are marginally better than a public member variable, but most of the time it's not worth it.
@BartekBanachewicz That's a bad thing, not a good thing.
 
2:51 PM
@DeadMG how so?
I don't have a getter for these callbacks.
 
because what if I want to simulate key presses?
 
@BartekBanachewicz exactly
 
Wrong abstraction level.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes who?
 
probably me.
 
2:52 PM
I think it's you.
I figured that the user will build on top of that and then why on earth should the simulation go through it?
 
the simulation doesn't care about key presses at all.
 
neither does window.
it just forwards them to the callback
 
I think it's a good thing to have control over who calls the callbacks.
 
then should they be public or not?
 
I'd make them private, with a function for registration.
 
2:55 PM
ha! that's what I did.
ITT I can design better software than Puppy.
 
@TonyTheLion you are not giving me any credit? we all do this for the credit.
 
@refp wasn't sure if I should
 
lol, I like how you assume my choice is inherently better.
 
I was just about to say that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes robots don't make mistakes :v
 
2:57 PM
so
 
Xeo
Fuck my head hurts.
 
now Wide has two build dependencies, Boost and LLVM/Clang.
this is getting out of hand.
 
lel
I treat boost as standard library
 
two => out of hand
 
Xeo
Oh noes, two dependencies!
 
2:57 PM
and since I now have several projects, their include paths are... everywhere.
 
@Xeo quick, call @CatPlusPlus
 
@Xeo They don't even depend on each other.
 
@DeadMG do you now understand why people tend to avoid use boost?
 
no.
 
good.
 
2:59 PM
Last week I found myself using two different versions of wheels in ogonek. That was nasty. Now I make sure to update the submodules recursively.
 
Updaing to Windows 8.1; May the gods be on my favor.
 

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