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4:23 AM
OK, I made my candidate statistic visualization script -- josilber.scripts.mit.edu/SOElection/SOelection.html. You can visualize a bunch of different stats (mainly from SEDE) and filter candidates however you want.
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I would welcome any thoughts/suggestions!
 
Really stupid question...how do I make it plot something? I see this:
The tiny text says: "Circle Size: Review Count (Main Site)5050050"
 
Haha, looks like I have some debugging to do!
what browser?
ah I get the same thing on firefox
 
Firefox
 
it looks like a graph on chrome, I promise!
 
fires up Chrome to try again
 
4:31 AM
lemme debug
 
Works there. :)
Have you found interesting combinations of filters?
 
I just picked two variables I liked for y-axis and size and then flipped through the remaining ones on the x-axis
 
That's what I'm working through now too
 
pretty cool @josilber!
 
Thanks!
 
4:49 AM
@josilber This is fascinating. Nicely done.
 
Thanks!
huh, so it turns out svg does not have offsetWidth or offsetHeight in firefox
should have it working there shortly
 
5:10 AM
all right, we have firefox liftoff!
 
5:44 AM
@josilber That's pretty cool
 
Thanks!
If you have ideas for additional variables I would love to add them in!
I'm adding some documentation about where all the numbers come from
 
@josilber It'd be interesting to have primary scores
 
Ah, interesting. I was hoping to keep it non-realtime
 
I can open up the CORS settings on my monitor endpoint, if you want.
 
but I suppose I could just dump in a snapshot of the scores?
hmm
 
5:47 AM
Or I could give you a snapshot, they should be fairly stable now
 
Can I access the endpoint you've setup?
*how can I
 
@josilber You can hit it manually at soprimaries.erwaysoftware.com/update.json
 
like, could I just set a timer in javascript and periodically grab it?
 
@josilber You probably could, yeah
 
ah neat
what are the ids?
 
5:48 AM
I'd need to set up CORS to allow you to, but that wouldn't be hard
 
(googles CORS)
 
Ah, those are internal.
@josilber Cross-origin request security or something like that
 
haha man it's been so long since I wrote web stuff
 
So that I can't make a website that reads your email, basically.
 
it's all R and data analysis nowadays for me
 
5:49 AM
@josilber What's the best format for data for your thing to consume?
 
json is perfect
it would be easiest if the ids were just the user ids for SO
 
kk, just a sec
 
but I can create a mapping if it's trouble
 
 
@Undo Looks great -- thanks!
I will integrate
Hmm
 
6:03 AM
That's my fault, just a sec
(dev on prod, yay)
Fixed
 
so maybe the easiest way to do this is to create a serverside script that polls you, and then have my javascript poll my script?
that way I don't have issues with the CORS stuff
I'll have some php code poll you periodically
 
@josilber Either way works
I can set it up to allow your domain to fetch that page
 
but wouldn't it still cause some browsers to have warnings?
 
Shouldn't
 
hmm
 
6:05 AM
At least not any modern-ish ones
 
mmk
hmm, I think I am going to go ultra-lightweight and just add a cron job that periodically grabs the scores
to a file
in the web folder
 
That works too ;)
 
6:29 AM
Good morning guys
 
Good morning!
 
Hey
 
For anyone interested, I made a script to sort answers randomly throughout the SE network. A user requested this in the election questionnaire Q&A comments.
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Q: Add a "Random" Option for Sorting Answers

Ed CottrellThis is a userscript (for GreaseMonkey, TamperMonkey, etc.) for sorting answers to posts randomly, like so: This feature was requested in connection with the Stack Overflow Fall 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire. To install the script, just click here. You can also view the source (...

Feedback would be appreciated.
@rekire Morning!
 
@Undo what does those keys mean in your map of your api?
Some big changes the last 8 hours?
@josilber interesting visualization, but which candidate has which color?
 
@rekire you can hover and get a tooltip, and when you hover the names are bolded in the candidate list
 
6:43 AM
I'm using a mobile
This seems to be a little tricky @josilber
 
ooh, yeah mobile is probably a no-go at this point
sorry =/
 
No problem I was just wondering where this info is hidden. A hide all option would be great too for identifying the colors.
 
@rekire Ah, interesting point
I will add a colored swatch next to the user list
 
6:58 AM
Great!
 
7:39 AM
Headed to bed -- will tie up some loose ends on the script tomorrow
night all!
 
7:50 AM
@josilber sleep well
Moin @deceze
 
Moin moin :)
Feels like changing shifts in here.
 
 
1 hour later…
9:02 AM
who are the candidates? where do we find them
 
Here you find them^^
A couple of them are sleeping now because of the different time zones
Ed I expect that you sleep now but you just went online^^
 
9:18 AM
Mornin'
 
morning @Amelia
 
 
2 hours later…
11:17 AM
any one is there ?
 
-NO-
(◕‿◕✿)
 
maybe
 
lol He has got nothing to say.
 
11:51 AM
Yolo hi
 
12:04 PM
hi
 
I'm back^^
 
from where?
or will i regret asking that?
 
from lunch
 
ahh, cool. One of my favorite times of the day :)
 
SKD
1:05 PM
Hello candidates...
 
1:22 PM
I would have expected there to be more babies to kiss for the candidates back here...
 
1:34 PM
:)
 
1:55 PM
Morning
 
howdy
 
2:30 PM
Hey guys, is it ok to defend myself from accusations with proof or is that something I should just let go?
 
Morning all.
 
Good morning Ed, I go now bye ;)
 
@rekire lol. See ya.
 
@SterlingArcher You made your comment. I'd let it go now.
 
@Andy ^ this. Calling further attention to that conversation is not going to help matters.
 
2:34 PM
Yes, I made my point -- however, should I have responded in the first place?
 
I read it as calm and a quick explanation of a recent encounter. Seems fine to me.
 
@SterlingArcher That's a judgment call.
 
Hmm
Ok, thanks guys
 
2:48 PM
@rekire On soprimaries.erwaysoftware.com/update-api.json it's {"userid": currentscore, ...}
 
3:23 PM
@josilber, did you put your code for the visualization script on Github (or else where) that we could peruse?
 
@Andy It's actually just three files on the webserver (SOelection.html, SOelection.js, and style.css)
Once it stabilizes a bit I will drop it onto github
Oh, plus the datafile, candidates.csv
 
Awesome.
 
3:46 PM
Have a good evening everyone...
 
@deceze See ya.
 
4:06 PM
Ooh, ed has awoken
@EdCottrell I never realised you were already a mod on SE, heh
 
@Amelia Yep. It's obviously a much quieter site, but a fun one to work on.
 
When exactly does the primary close?
 
@Amelia Tomorrow at 20:00 Z (3 PM EST, 2 PM CST)
 
5:00 PM
I love how this election has turned into a bunch of devs trying to one-up each other with pretty election stats pages
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@Amelia bah - be a cute puppy, put a ninja costume on... then you get to be a runner up - what's the big deal? :p
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@JonClements All I needed to run was 20 edits and around 600 rep. I should review more, too.
 
@Amelia Pretty pictures win work meetings, maybe the same applies to elections.
 
Also, bugger. I'm at a concert when the election ends
 
@Amelia Playing or watching?
In either case... just set your phone up pointed at this room
I plan to have results posted within a few seconds of it ending.
 
5:08 PM
@Undo Watching. Unfortunately, I'm not Marina :p
@Undo I was planning to welcome the candidates to the mythical mod room, but I'm fairly sure the people who'll be elected are actually already in there
 
@Amelia I'm betting @josilber will be one of the initial three, so there should be at least one to welcome.
 
5:47 PM
@josilber - Feature request: Allow me to link to my current combobox selections so that it can be shared.
And one more: When mousing over a dot, show the current values in addition to the user name.
 
@Andy It highlights the username in the column to the right so hovering and glancing works.
 
Hey sorry in middle of a meeting
@Andy you want a permalink to the full configuration of the thing? Yeah, should be able to do that within a few hours
And can definitely add the x and y values on mouseover
 
@josilber Could you add all three values?
 
6:06 PM
@Undo u > 7k
 
Oh neat!
This has been an interesting election so far
 
@Undo No argument here!
 
I'm still not sure who to vote for third :/
 
@Seth I'd take a 3rd place vote ;)
 
@Seth, you are going about this all wrong. Watch...
I'm now accepting bribes for my third place vote
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6:09 PM
We have an overabundance of qualified people. Which is a good problem to have.
 
@Andy emm, should have thought of that ;)
 
Yeah. That's what I get for being ethical so early in the process.
 
@Andy I offer a very very slight favorable approach toward your flags. Where 'slight' is defined as 'probably not detectable in a large clinical study'
(You see, this isn't technically bribery since moderators can't see who flagged comments)
Or a virtual Snickers bar. Your choice.
 
The snickers bar is temping. A virtual snickers bar...not as much.
 
@Andy It might entice you to go to the store and buy a real one. Either way, you get a snickers bar you wouldn't have otherwise had.
 
6:13 PM
I believe @Undo has promised everyone a snickers bar for your vote.
 
I promised a virtual snickers bar, which may have psychological effects similar to that of a real snickers bar.
Also, your virtual snickers bar will only be valid until I accidentally delete it.
 
Now you're arguing minor implementation details. po-tay-to, po-tah-to
 
@Undo "Virtual Snickers bar" -> "declined - a moderator reviewed your candy bar, but found no evidence to support it"
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@Andy no, it's to-mah-to!
;p
 
7:08 PM
OK, tooltips with the displayed values are now up at josilber.scripts.mit.edu/SOElection/SOelection.html. Working on permalinks and linking in the primary scores.
 
@josilber Wonderful!
 
I would like to wish all of the candidates good luck. We have such a good group of candidates that it will be tough to just vote for 3 of you.
 
@josilber One minor complaint (I'm sorry)...the tool tips don't update when new X,Y,R options are selected
 
7:27 PM
is there a new graph about the voting changes?
 
@rekire I'll pull one, just a sec
 
@JohnnyBones meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310356/… Yeah... the image is a joke about campaigns.
 
@Undo what a great service :)
 
:)
 
Plus there's no point in really answering more questions, being 4th to last ;)
Ask me again next year lol
 
7:30 PM
Ahhh...
 
just for fun: does anyone of you own a stack overflow t-shirt?
 
@rekire Yep
 
I'm too busy trying to figure out my new Samsung Galaxy S6. I've been an Apple guy for years.
 
They're really nice.
 
I'm actually happy. I've never run for mod before, and came out way higher than expected. 500+ votes, and a feew life tips
I want a stack shirt :(
 
7:31 PM
user image
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@rekire ^
 
@rekire Yes
 
@JohnnyBones that ui of that newer Samsung devices are so different from stock Android, sometimes I have problems with those devices
 
@JohnnyBones Is that the one where if you put the pen in backwards it never, ever comes out?
 
@Undo thank you!
 
Anytime ;)
Except when I'm sleeping
 
7:34 PM
Well that would be no problem for me to hit such a time window ;)
I guess the placings won't change anymore in the top 15
 
No pen. It's weird, some of the stuff on Samsung's website is wrong. Or I'm an idiot. Either answer is acceptible.
 
@rekire Probably not, they usually solidify pretty quickly.
 
@Undo Last time around, there was a fair bit of movement. In particular, Jason C and I kept bumping each other out of 10th. It literally went down to the last minute.
 
look at mureinik and deceze at the 18th November around 8am they changed their placing and even if it doesn't really matter places 16/17 and 18/19 are changing often
 
@EdCottrell Ah, I remember that
 
7:39 PM
@Andy Thanks and updated
 
Detail of last twelve hours
... not very exciting
 
@Undo Yeah, it was nerve-wracking. Worst of all, the primary ended during the middle of an office baby-shower thing for my wife and me, so I couldn't even look at the results until after the fact.
 
@EdCottrell Ugh, that's rough
 
@Undo I mean, the baby shower thing was nice. But still, I wanted numbers.
 
I presume the baby was successfully showered?
That's where you need something like Google Glass. Get primary ranking updates pushed right to your retina.
 
7:42 PM
@Undo Indeed. She's currently napping. :)
 
Best state for a baby to be in.
 
Makes life easier when they are sleeping
 
@Undo As much as I love this place, I think the day when I get SO election updates pushed directly to my retina is the day I seek professional intervention.
@Andy Nah, she's about the happiest baby in the world. But being a baby is hard; it's nap time.
 
@EdCottrell I have a thing mostly working that sends me push notifications when flags show up on SR/HR.
Which is only about twice a day
 
I can fix that @Undo.
 
7:44 PM
@Undo I was gonna say. If you win a slot in this thing and point that script at SO, your phone will melt.
 
Actually, no, I can't. I think I did my HR flagging already
 
but we can have the election results pushed to people.
 
@Seth I have my election script ready to go, I'll probably either point it at a chat.SE room or ask someone to add it to the access list here
 
or you could just use a both with enough rep..
 
@Undo @Undo On a more serious note, I would actually like to point that script at ebooks. Let me know when you're ready/willing to share it.
 
7:46 PM
@EdCottrell It's already on GitHub, just a sec
 
I think he was talking about the flag one
 
@EdCottrell Oh, the flag thing?
 
@Undo Yeah
 
It's really a mess and requires an Apple dev account, among other things
 
Bad timing in my reply.
Ah.
 
7:47 PM
Because you need fancy certificates. It's insane how many certificates you need just to send sandbox notifications.
 
Well, I'm tinkering with a Selenium bot to automate a bunch of stuff, so I may just build that into it.
 
I'll see if I can clean it up and post it, though
 
@Undo better than Android's screwed up notifs
 
Is it just 15 rep for chat privs?
Or 25?
I'm trying to decide whether to go try to post stuff or just ask someone to add chat.stackoverflow.com/users/5582995/electionbot to the write access list.
 
 
8:00 PM
2 votes
 
@Undo I got the current primary score added at josilber.scripts.mit.edu/SOElection/SOelection.html
 
@Undo Sure
 
@minitech Thanks!
 
bye guys I'll be back tomorrow ;)
 
@Undo: Okay, added
 
8:02 PM
bye!
 
@minitech Great, thanks
 
8:24 PM
Did the nomination length limit change?
user image
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Huh, 130 characters is quite a bit!
 
It must have. I just checked mine; it's also exactly 130 characters too long.
Weird.
That, or the algorithm for what counts as a character changed, and your post and mine are strangely similar.
 
@EdCottrell I bet someone just bumped a button somewhere
 
@Shog9 --^?
 
Which is kinda irritating
 
8:32 PM
what
 
@Shog9 It's saying that my existing nomination is 130 chars too long. Ed has the same issue
 
oh, yeah - I forgot to reduce the limit back to 1200 after last year.
Y'all can pare yours down now, or I'll do it for you when I add the links to your Q&A at the end of the primary.
 
@Shog9 So we do need to trim them?
 
@EdCottrell probably, yes. If you look at the last election, you'll see I added links to the meta Q&A for each candidate who made it into the final round. Gotta leave room for that.
 
@Shog9 Okay, thanks.
 
8:34 PM
If you keep it <= 1200 characters, that's fine - I'll increase the limit to make room when I add the links.
If you're currently over that, I'll have to remove something else
(or increase the limit further, but that's kinda unfair)
 
Ahh, I was wondering about that last election.
 
@Shog9 Just remove the "e"s. Nobody will notice.
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@Shog9 Would it be impossible to just raise the limit back to where it was at the beginning of the election, when we had people write these in the first place?
 
@Shog9 I guess I should trim mine up...but why are they so short?
Why not allow the same length as a question / answer body?
 
@ThomasOwens Well, go look at some of the earlier elections - there were novels written. No one has time to read ten of those.
 
8:38 PM
@ThomasOwens they used to be. But that's 30,000 characters - and some folks were actually using a lot of that. Which means you have to scroll through a LOT of text to find the next candidate
 
@ThomasOwens Because CasperOne.
 
@Shog9 I suppose that makes sense.
But my post isn't that long and it's now too long.
 
But now we have ten people who have to trim ~10% of their carefully balanced text, with no forewarning and just a day to do it.
 
Maybe I don't need links.
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@Undo why are you editing your nomination now?
 
8:39 PM
@Shog9 Didn't you say above that we had to?
Or you would have to trim to make things fit?
 
@Shog9 the limit appears to have changed since the start of this election
 
@Shog9 I just happened to want to look at something for reference, and noticed that it was 130 chars above the limit.
 
@ThomasOwens Yup. Either you make it your problem now, or it becomes my problem later.
 
@Shog9 OK, is it sufficient to get it down to the current limit, or do we need to go further to make room for that link you're adding?
 
@josilber right; I didn't want folks editing in more stuff between the start of the primaries and the start of the election. If you don't change your nomination, it's not a big deal; I'm pretty adept at optimizing markdown.
 
8:41 PM
This changing limit thing isn't cool. And the limit is way to short (although maybe 30k is too much, too).
 
@josilber the current limit is fine
 
@Shog9 sweet
 
@ThomasOwens again, doesn't matter unless you were trying to make your nomination longer.
 
@JeremyBanks That post is amazing.
 
@Shog9 I'm confused. Right now, my nomination is 118 characters too long. If I make no changes, you'll have to edit it tomorrow, yes?
 
8:43 PM
@ThomasOwens yup
 
So I should make the changes the way I want to.
 
So... you're saying that the limit we were given two weeks ago to make our points in has suddenly been shortened three days before the end of the election?
130 chars isn't all that much to read, but it's a lot to cut out of an already-golfed nomination.
 
That's true. I've already trimmed link URLs. Now I'm wordsmithing so it looks right.
Was this a mistake that they were too long earlier?
 
@Undo but.. isn't that just Undo'ing 130 characters?
Sorry I'll show myself out.
 
14 mins ago, by Shog9
oh, yeah - I forgot to reduce the limit back to 1200 after last year.
@SterlingArcher Hah, that's great :)
 
8:46 PM
@ThomasOwens FWIW, I can cut yours by about 64 characters just by shortening links and removing extraneous whitespace. That's probably enough; I wouldn't worry about it.
 
OK. Let me finish up what I'm doing now. I suppose you could tinyurl the links and be done.
 
@Shog9 Okay, so you won't be removing content? I'm good with that.
 
@Undo no.
nothing visible anyway
 
Ah, great. No problems, then ;)
 
I just can't have folks super-optimizing their way into 1380 chars or whatever and then forcing me to increase the limit even further.
 
8:48 PM
@Shog9 <3
 
Right, understand
 
I mean... In a sense this is all arbitrary anyway, but I really do care a lot about keeping the final 10 as short as possible.
Get to the point & use your meta answers to present your all-encompassing manifesto
I've done this in about 5 elections on 3 sites now, and it's pretty painless as long as folks don't edit out the damn links to meta Q&A
 
Huh, I found cutting the text surprisingly easy.
 
I almost wonder if we should make everyone give a thesis statement, max 140 chars. "I will handle flags every day and admit my mistakes".
 
Good practice for writing abstracts of academic papers
 
8:50 PM
Then show that at the top of the page, with the full nominations below
It'd make it a little easier to scan.
 
eh... Long-term, I'd like to see these trimmed down to maybe a paragraph (600 chars like comments?) and always include a link to the meta Q&A.
But as long as I'm doing that last bit manually, it's kinda unfair to restrict it that much.
 
9:10 PM
@Shog9 I'd agree with that if you could see a way to make links free.
Because links are important and we really should encourage them
 
Done. That was surprisingly difficult.
Oh, and for the record, removing the "e"s would totally have done it.
>I would b honord to srv as a modrator. I stood for lction in April, but was liminatd in th final stag of th lction. I'm still >hr and rady to srv if chosn.
>#About M!
>I'v bn activ on Stack Ovrflow and othr Stack xchang sits (spcially books and MS) for 2+ yars. I lov this community and want to >mak it vn bttr. I'm a full-tim dvlopr (again), mostly on th LAMP stack and JavaScript. I'v bn writing softwar for 30 yars (ys, >rally!).
>#Why M?
>- **I hav almost 2 yars' xprinc srving as a modrator** on [books](http://books.stackxchang.com).
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Has a certain Old-English poetic feel to it. Or something.
 
9:29 PM
Still suprisingly readable :)
Coincidentally I had already modified mine last night so I've got no issues with length
 
I should be writing a class to implement an audit system. Instead, I'm lurking and trying to get stars for the Outspoken badge. Shame on me.
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9:54 PM
Ahhh... audit.... been there, done that. Can't speak highly enough about PostSharp, you can use the free version for that.
and have another star :)
 
@slugster Thanks. :)
@slugster Thanks, but this is actually a PHP class to implement audit trails on MySQL tables. It uses triggers to build a log of all inserts, updates, and deletes. Necessary after end-user error trashed some data (fortunately, not in a mission-critical database).
 
10:09 PM
@EdCottrell You could easily save 5 more chars by dropping the http: from the ebooks.SE link. That totally works.
 
@IlmariKaronen Good point. Now what do I do with all these free characters? More "e"s?
 
@EdCottrell Yeeees! Moreee "eeee"s!
 
10:35 PM
Hey @josilber - 9k. Looking good.
 
@EdCottrell You're doing not so bad yourself! :)
 
@josilber :)
 

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