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1:01 AM
@AdrianMole So uh. These are the same 7 and 8 are direct re-posts.
This one 6 is similar (and maybe the same issue) but with a slightly different pattern than 7 and 8. This one appears to use the answers received to ask the new question 7.
Note the similarity between the regex in this answer to 6 /^(\+)?(234|0)[0-9]*?.*/ to the regex in question 7 /^(\+)?234[0-9]*?.*/gm vs the initial pattern in question 6 '/^234[0-9]{11}/'
 
Yeah I mod-flagged one of the "Australian" ones and mentioned the "Nigerian" ones in the message. I guess the handling mod will work out what's going on, if they take even a cursory look at the user's profile. But it'll probably take a while - the mod team are busy dealing with the big spam attack, at the moment, I guess.
 
Question 1 seems distinct (Needs edit "Thanks." in question). Question 2 seems distinct. Question 3 is actually AU and UK numbers while Question 4 is AU only (and a different pattern)
Question 5 is distinct. Note I didn't look if any should or should not be duplicates.
Really the only exact re-post is 7/8 I think. 3 (AU and UK was closed as a duplicate) and 4 was posted because the new AU pattern doesn't match as expected. I could be wrong though.
@AdrianMole I just got on. Has it still be pretty bad today?
 
I still think that, even for the AU (only) and AU+UK pair, the second was posted after the first was closed ... which is not what should happen, IMHO. They should have edited the closed Q and/or explained why it isn't a duplicate.
 
Maybe? 3 "fails on my server, but the expression works on regex101.com" and in 4 "it only validates for an exact match per string" they have different issues and different answers. Removing the ^ and $ solves 4, while 3 is still unanswered and they have contested the closure
 
1:16 AM
Well, you seem to have highlighted one of the big issues with the regex tag and why it generates so many "duplicate wars". :)
I saw four (I think) of them in quite quick succession in review, so I thought a custom flag was probably justified.
 
Yeah further inspection definitely warranted. I also agree with the flag on the "Nigerian" numbers ones with an added concern of use of an so answer from 6 without attribution.
I've voted to close 8 as a duplicate of 7 for this reason as well.
My confusion is that it was closed as needing details and clarity then later answered. But the text question didn't change at all...
 
Random rant. Windows reports a drive as physicaldriveHDD 0 even if it's an SSD. Yes, this is actually more of a PITA than it should be.
 
Oof, OP took the trouble of earning 100 rep, and then tries to spend it on this stackoverflow.com/questions/70141260 :(
I flagged it btw, so it's handled.
 
Who's Bruce? XD
You're right the "I'll buy you like 10 brownies." was just too much
 
1:32 AM
The first hit when I searched 2moremiles.com/2019/06/14/for-the-love-of-bruce :)
 
Wow that's both sweet and sad, and also how dare Bruce's name be used on that question? 😠
 
1:56 AM
@manro Right now my main car-related concern is the global chip shortage making buying a new car rather difficult
 
@RyanM My main car-related concern is the utter lack of availability of rental cars in hawaii due to chip shortage impacts
 
Oh dear, that's unfortunate. I've never been - do you need a car to get around there?
Alternate response: Why not just drive from home?
 
@RyanM There's always Uber/Lyft.
Which is probably more cost effective anyway.
 
And no parking worries!
 
@RyanM That reminds me of a google maps easter egg from a long time ago where you could get driving directions NYC to Paris, involving some sort of cross-ocean drive
Found this from 2007. :)
 
2:12 AM
bahaha. I forgot that it used to do that.
For better or worse, I believe it now suggests flying for such routes
 
Alas. So boring.
 
3:09 AM
 
@DanielWiddis Isn't an SSD still a physical hard disk drive?
 
3:55 AM
@CodyGray it is not: hard disk drives use magnetic storage on platters
 
Is that actually part of the definition?
I was not aware of that. I thought "hard disk drive" was a more generic term, much like "personal computer", even though both of those phrases are very commonly used to imply something more specific than their definitions do.
 
Having been corrected on this myself, I believe it is in fact part of the definition, at least for the full phrase "hard disk drive": that is, it is a drive containing hard disks
 
ICs are pretty hard. Is the issue that they're not sufficiently disk-y?
 
Maybe they don't spin enough
 
Don't the electrons spin?
Or they're disqualified from having true spin because they're point entities?
 
4:41 AM
The lack of "disks" is my understanding, yeah.
 
So you'll never hear them referred to as "Solid-State Disks"? :-)
 
> We design and manufacture the CF2SCSI SCSIFlash and FLOPPYFlash CF based solid-state drives
 
Yeah, I meant the company name: Solid State Disks Ltd.
 
I know, I'm just noting that even they appear to refer to the hardware itself as "drives"
 
Point is that "disk" is widely used interchangeably with "drive" in the initialism SSD. Even several published papers define "SSD" as "solid state disk".
Here's one: Solid State Disk (SSD) Drives Just do both!
 
4:50 AM
That's fair. Though I think there is wider agreement that they are not "hard disk drives"
 
As noted before, I had always perceived that as the same sort of widespread agreement that Macintoshes are not "personal computers".
The kind of perverse twisting of language that everyone in the industry knows what you mean, but which is not based on the actual definitions of the terms and which no one else could have a chance of figuring out without that additional context.
 
I would argue that the Mac vs. PC thing is incorrect. For instance, is a MacBook Pro running Windows a PC?
Apple did not help this matter with their marketing, though.
 
That's a very new problem, relatively speaking. Only since Macs went to using Intel processors have they been able to run Windows natively. The distinction between Mac and PC is much older than that, going back to the mid-80s.
 
Yeah, I think the distinction of "a Mac is not a PC" was considerably more justifiable back in the PPC days.
 
I was a Mac user for many years when the only way to run Windows on your Mac was with an emulator.
Yeah, or the 68k days :-)
 
4:55 AM
Oh, I forgot that was a thing
 
Windows NT could run on PPC, although Apple's Macs didn't implement the full OpenFirmware that was required by the RISC manufacturer consortium (whoever they were; I forget the specific details) that would have allowed them to boot NT directly
 
Likely in part because I was...not very old at the time.
 
Yeah. I got into computers early.
And then continued to be involved with the older machines through a repair business. Not to mention still work with the older machines, due to a retrocomputing hobby.
 
I believe you have also implied that you are at least a bit older than me. Though I'd guess not by a lot.
 
Somewhat. 30-ish.
 
4:58 AM
Ah, yeah, well, same.
 
PPC Macs came out in 94-95. I would have been fairly young, I think.
Then again, I also know a fair bit about the English Civil War and the presidency of LBJ, and I wasn't alive for either of those things. Knowledge is weird. :-)
Anyway, I think "mechanical" or "magnetic" disk drive would be the more accurate term. I am still unsure whether "hard" excludes solid-state drives. IBM used to use the term "fixed disk" back in the day, even before there was such thing as solid-state drives. Would have allowed them to finesse around this issue, though, and continue using "fixed disk" to refer to both types of storage media.
Unfortunately, this is the type of question for which it would be nice to have a definitive, well-researched answer, but also not the type of question which Stack Exchange sites can handle, because they would produce a bunch of low-quality opinion-based answers.
Very related example is here; those are all just opinions. Some have actual explanations, others don't. Although this is somewhat amusing:
The term "solid state" means "made from transistors and/or integrated circuits". Just because a hard disk is a solid object, as opposed to liquid or gas, I suppose, doesn't make it "solid state". Phrases often have more specific meaning than their constituent parts. I could sit a desktop computer on my lap, but that doesn't make it a "laptop computer"! I could have a friend who is a girl, but that doesn't make her "my girlfriend". Etc. — Jay Nov 30 '11 at 16:38
 
 
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6:33 AM
@RyanM i hate this pseudo global chip shortage. It was falsely induced by my opinion)
 
I mean it was certainly induced by what are, in retrospect, suboptimal decisions
But once you're there, chip fabrication facilities cost boatloads of money and have long lead times
There are a number of extremely large companies losing tons of money because of products they can't make enough of
 
Yep.
ANd y'all (Ryan and Cody) are young pups.
 
None of which is helped by global logistics issues...
also the Jones act is still kind of dumb but that's not really the main problem here
 
@RyanM ye, it was a dumb opinion to move almost all facilities to daddy lao. But i believe, that it will be fixed ;)
 
I just think the Jones Act is silly and enjoy an opportunity to poke fun at it.
 
6:41 AM
I saw a great video about the Jones act and a seafood company with a 100-meter railway they had to bypass the laws.
 
@DanielWiddis It's a railway in Canada, right? So it's "shipped by Canadian rail"?
 
presicely!
 
yeah, great use of everyone's time and money there
 
An Alaska company shipped something to Canada where the truck got on a rail car that moved it 100 meters and it drove into maine.
 
@manro to...where?
 
6:43 AM
Do you live in Alaska? Oo
@RyanM to USA, to Europe. We need factories and plants everywhere!
 
That's not really the issue, though. The issue is that we need more chip factories.
 
Let's build it!
 
Where exactly they are is relevant (IIRC Samsung's building a US fab, which isn't cheap) but the main issue is a spike in demand
(and also supply chain disruptions due to COVID)
 
I glad that your health minister said that O virus doesn't so dangerous. Mamma Mia, he also tired of this show)
 
Chips aren't something you can just up and start making with your 3D printer
 
6:48 AM
although I guess a US chip fab is probably one of the more practical types of manufacturing to do in the US...
 
@RyanM To quote Vizzini, "You'd like to think so, wouldn't you?"
 
It's gotta be a relatively low amount of human labor per dollar of product, right?
at least for like, high-end chips
obviously not the ones that sell for a few cents each if you buy 10,000 of them
 
We need no chips, we need no neural networks, no robots, no 5G 😁😁😁
 
@DanielWiddis Depends who you're comparing to, I suppose :-)
 
@RyanM Someone who was quoting The Princess Bride while you were still in diapers? :)
 
7:00 AM
@DanielWiddis Hmmm.....I don't believe they exist.
I am in fact younger than The Princess Bride, though only by a few years. Excellent choice of movie to quote :-)
 
@RyanM Hahaha!
I believe I watched that movie every weekend from March 1993 to March 1995.
With a few exceptions.
 
That is...more times than I think I'd be willing to, despite enjoying the movie.
 
Guys! While you are here. Can you look to my profile and say me: "which professions will suit me in the future"?)
 
Dare I ask why?
 
It started out as fun, ended up as tradition? Wine was involved. As were quoting competitions.
 
7:03 AM
ha
Hmmm, now I want to host a wine-and-Princess Bride party.
Or cocktails, perhaps.
 
The only movie that I can quote the vast majority of is Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. The fact that it's mostly sung is rather helpful.
 
Full story: getting my master's degree, study group of 4 people. We ended up being the top 2 and bottom 2 of our class. But we all passed. One of the bottom two was a wine collector. One of the top 2 was a wine drinker. ;)
I don't think I've heard of Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog. Until now.
 
Hahaha. Wine collecting is a hobby for people who don't live in city apartments.
 
@RyanM tha't's what storage companies are made for
 
7:06 AM
Wine drinking, on the other hand, is a much more ...egalitarian? hobby.
 
@RyanM Fancy folks like to call it "wine tasting"
 
(´;︵;`)
 
Oh goodness, I really don't want to own a storage unit for any reason. Although I suppose a wine storage company is rather specialized...
 
I have considered collecting wine. Unfortunately I drink it faster than I can collect it.
 
But general storage is a way to end up with things you don't need, don't have room for, and have no motivation to deal with. And to pay for the privilege!
@manro That is a question that is truly quite difficult to answer without knowing someone far better than one could from reading their profile
 
7:11 AM
@RyanM In the last decade I had to deal with downsizing/moving my mother and her stuff and eventually disposing of the estate. She was a depression-era kid and never threw anything out. It's amazing how little of the stuff she saved for decades was actually of any value. But those few tidbits are sorta priceless.
Craziest moment for me was finding a file cabinet and tax records for ever year since 1969. Yes. Taxes for 50 years.
 
Oh goodness, I don't envy the family members who had to clean out my grandfather's home...it was full of some of the most random things one could imagine.
 
The pendulum swings. I hardly keep anything.
 
On the other hand, he had a system: he could find anything in it. One day we were troubleshooting some issue, and told him he needed to get some DSL filters. He says "Oh I got some of those at a garage sale" and sure enough he has enough DSL filters (from a brand I recognized, too!) to solve his problem.
 
@RyanM at list a little list of suitable professions. I want to read about them. I know about only programmer, circuit engineer and designer profs, which aren't suitable.
(~‾▿‾)~
 
@manro Why wouldn't programmer be suitable?
 
7:19 AM
@RyanM my logic and math are far from ideal
 
@RyanM Also it helps that it's short-ish. And has Neil Patrick Harris + Nathan Fillion.
 
@VLAZ Excellent points.
 
@DanielWiddis Thanks! This site usually makes me feel old. Hearing this is a pleasant deviation. :-)
 
Old grandpa Cody, you are welcome ;)
 
@RyanM Yup, that'll be Samsung's second fab in the US. The first one is in Austin, Texas, now, and has been operating for many years. The new one will be in Taylor, Texas, which is a small town, but nearby-ish to Austin. The new one will be much larger than the Austin fab.
@manro The US's health minister? I do not know of anyone who said any such thing.
 
7:24 AM
@CodyGray Do you know why they selected that area for both fabs? I'd sort of expect a desire for more geographical diversity, all else equal.
My guess would be availability of qualified personnel, potentially the ones that already work at their other fab.
 
@DanielWiddis Actually... :-) Have you heard of flexible hybrid electronics manufacturing? I know a guy (former colleague) who works at NextFlex, a government- and privately-funded research partnership, who is doing some really cool things in this area. They can essentially 3D print a flexible Raspberry Pi system-on-a-chip.
@RyanM Massive tax breaks from the Republican-led state government.
They were also considering Arizona. Do you see the trend? :-)
 
@CodyGray 3d print SoC? Impressive.
 
Yeah. I mean, it's not your bog-standard 3D printer, obviously.
But they do the manufacturing in a fab right there on-site, and it can be done in literally minutes. Still incredibly cool.
Plus, it's flexible, so you can literally wear it or embed it in clothing or medical devices or whatever.
 
Way cool.
 
Doesn't look like they have a lot of pictures online. I guess it's difficult, given some of the funding sources. (Obviously, massive funding from the DoD, like all of us in this type of research-y fields.)
 
7:27 AM
@CodyGray sorry for the lying, he is not a health minister reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/…
 
This is the best image I see on their website at the moment. That was done using a traditional PCB-style fabrication process, but, obviously, it's flexible.
 
Oh, totally unrelated, @CodyGray .. got some email about some backup of some vm being deleted after 2 weeks. Did you get said email so I can ignore it? :)
@CodyGray that's just nuts.
 
@DanielWiddis Yes, please ignore. I ran into some... issues. I blew away a bunch of stuff and re-created it. All sorted out now.
@manro :53568524 Uh... where did Fauci say that the Omicron variant isn't so dangerous?
 
Cool. I'm totally ignoring it unless you yell otherwise. Just making sure you are getting any needed alerts.
 
I actually did not get any alert about that.
 
7:30 AM
@CodyGray surely they're printing the boards, not the actual chips, right?
 
However, I can log in to the dashboard without issue, so I am not terribly concerned.
 
@CodyGray hmm, lemme find the email
 
@RyanM Both, as far as I understand. Flexible circuit boards are not novel. Even my company uses those; we just get the cheapest fab house we can find in China to make those. The innovation there is the actual chips being flexible.
 
Xd
 
7:31 AM
@manro Perhaps you are thinking of the head of Pfizer
 
They're not quite as flexible as the PCBs are, obviously, but still. They're not rigid like traditional chips.
@DanielWiddis I wouldn't bother. I don't care if they throw away any backups. In fact, I clicked a bunch of buttons numerous times in various orders in order to request that they do throw away backups and everything else.
 
@CodyGray He said the person, who was fully vaccinated against COVID-19 but had not had a booster shot, had mild symptoms and was self-quarantining.
 
I probably got the alert that confirmed you clicked the button. Forwarded it :)
 
There's nothing on there that I care about and/or don't have stored elsewhere. There's code pulled straight from GitHub, and then a text file with a username and password that, obviously, isn't on GitHub, but that I have stored elsewhere.
I was just clarifying that I'm not getting any alert emails, so if there's some way you know of to add me to a list of people that would get emails, that would probably be useful. If not, don't worry about it.
 
I have no idea why I got that email that I forwarded.
So, we're all good. Me, personally, I back up stuff 3x by habit.
 
7:33 AM
@RyanM i m confused
 
@manro Catching up on this other thread, is this about Omicron? From what I've read, "more contagious, less lethal" which is actually a good thing.
 
@CodyGray Oh, fascinating. Their website is awful at explaining this. But surely there's no way to 3D print an SOC in minutes: the Cortex-A72 alone has billions of transistors
 
What actually happened is that I b0rked the startup script, causing it to crash at startup, which meant that I couldn't access it via SSH. And, apparently, the default configuration doesn't support console/serial sessions (that requires additional setup). So, I tried to simply reset/restore the VM to its original configuration, but that is apparently not possible. Very frustrating.
So then I thought, well, I'll attach a new HD image and delete the old one. That's possible, but you can only attach a *blank* HD image, not one that is loaded with an OS image. So that didn't help. At that point
 
Guys, don't forget to listen and watch this clip above)
 
Unless they're just like...assembling it from existing parts
 
7:36 AM
@RyanM Agreed; the website is quite awful. I only know this because a former colleague of mine (actually my mentor on the hardware side of things for the job that I have now) went to work for them as one of their technical directors, so I got the inside scoop on a lot of stuff. Plus, my company has done some collaborative projects with them, so I've gone to some of their trade shows/expos and see first-hand some of their flexible hybrid electronics prototypes.
 
@CodyGray There's a "turn it off and back on again" joke in there somewhere
 
I am 90% sure this was a first-gen Pi, which has a lot fewer transistors.
 
Ahhhhhhh. That makes more sense.
 
@DanielWiddis I think I deleted everything that could possibly be deleted, or scheduled it for deletion, then re-created it, then realized I misconfigured something, had to delete everything again, re-create it all again, decide that I wanted to change the deployment location, delete everything again, create it all again... :-)
 
@manro Fauci hasn't, as far as I know, said anything about Omicron in general, only the single known patient in the United States. The head of BioNTech, coronavirus vaccine partner to pharmaceutical company Pfizer, said "Our message is: Don’t freak out, the plan remains the same: Speed up the administration of a third booster shot"
 
7:38 AM
I was up all night doing this, quite infuriated at the poor web interface and the absolute lack of useful error messages.
 
Hahaha
 
If you don't click just the right buttons at the right time, you have to start over.
 
@RyanM Personally I completely disregard any statement by any of the vaccine manufacturers. It's in their business interests to sell booster shots.
 
I did finally manage to get console/serial access (via the web interface) set up, so hopefully I won't have to delete and recreate again.
 
OK, all well and good! :)
 
7:40 AM
For some unknown reason, that requires setting up some kind of data repository... So I created that, even though I definitely don't need it.
 
I'll return to ignoring it!
 
@DanielWiddis A reasonable approach.
 
@DanielWiddis booster shots aren't free for citizens in USA?
 
Someone still has to pay for them.
The vaccine companies still make money.
 
They are free to the recipients, though.
 
7:41 AM
@manro Oh, they're free. I've got mine. I just ignore any "forecasts" by people who might profit from it.
 
Looking forward to my next booster. I mean, people are freaking out like we don't already get annual flu shots.
But I'm also an old phart at higher risk than you young pups
 
The booster shots are highly recommended for old farts :-)
 
And I really should get my ass off the couch and exercise, which would probably extend my life far more than yelling at someone to go get jabbed.
 
Also, many people don't get annual flu shots.
 
7:44 AM
Do you imagine a future life without corona? Your predictions when they stop?
 
I think it's already on the way out, actually.
 
@DanielWiddis Oh, now you're just talking crazy!
Isn't it enough exercise to stand on your front porch and shake your fist?
 
@CodyGray Only if you do so for 30 minutes, 3x a week!
 
3x a week, no problem. But 30 minutes? Seems like a long time.
Darn kids won't even stand still and listen for 5!
 
@manro We're in the last wave now. Media and government will still play up any hint of fear for ratings, but by next Spring they'll have turned their attention to something else.
 
7:49 AM
The last wave of hype, or the last wave of SARS-CoV-2?
I don't think the latter will be going away any time soon.
 
@CodyGray Neither will complaints about what happened to Monica. But their impact on day to day life will go away.
 
Well... I don't know about that. It'll be a perpetual arms-race against the evolution of the spike proteins.
You're probably right that annual Coronavirus shots will become like annual flu shots.
But I also don't think we're going to reach herd immunity status any time soon, given how many people are still refusing to get vaccinated.
 
@CodyGray the thing is, it was already pretty much a worst case combo of contagious/lethality. Any mutation is better. More deadly? People die before they can spread it (SARS, bird flu, etc.). Less deadly? Annual flu shot.
 
@CodyGray It's rare around here to get annual flu shots. However, not because people are against them but mostly nobody can be bothered.
 
@DanielWiddis ye, i think you saw what they made on the EU-russian border.
 
7:52 AM
@CodyGray those who don't get vaccinated will probably all eventually be exposed to it. 99% will survive and be effectively immunized and talk about how it's no big deal, the other 1% will die.
 
I hope, that american boys don't want to die far away from home and be clever in this time
 
@DanielWiddis Err, well, yeah. You're talking about mutations that increase lethality. I'm talking merely about mutations that avoid immune surveillance.
 
@CodyGray point being, mutations are mutations. Who knows what will happen? In the vast majority of cases mutations make things worse. When mutations survive at scale, it's because they can reproduce more effectively... and to be effective in reprodcing you have to not kill your host
 
@DanielWiddis while holding a weight
@DanielWiddis I sure hope you're right, what with all these new variants. Hopefully the vaccines continue to be effective.
 
I just figure we only have so many letters in the Greek alphabet.
No possible way there will be any variant past omega.
 
7:59 AM
@RyanM An illustration of the workout - it's important to switch the weight between hands often to get a good equal exercise.
 
@RyanM fun thing about the vaccine -- it was actually developed literally 2 days after the genome was sequenced. It took a year for all the trials and testing and stuff. So updates for mutation-of-the-year? It's what already happens with flu shots.
 
σύντομα θα τελειώσουν τα ελληνικά γράμματα 😉
 
@VLAZ LOL
 
@VLAZ haha. the length of the weight also strengthens the stabilizing muscles.
 
@VLAZ I do this one instead.
 
8:10 AM
Ha. Touché.
 
OK, must sleep. Tomorrow is a work day, much as I wish it otherwise.
 
Exactly what I had in mind.
Oh, not the sleep thing. Definitely didn't plan on that.
 
Grandpas you should live)
Collect all sand and throw from window.
 
 
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10:01 AM
Fun fact: the next person to create an account on Math.SE will get user ID 1000000
@RyanM aaaaand the winner is: angry abusive user who's already suspended
 
Oh, hey, the newly-elected mod must be doing a great job!
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10:16 AM
@RyanM 🎉
 
 
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12:58 PM
@CodyGray strange way of the fighting with moderators on IT-site 😁
Guys from America) Today we worked with Milwaukee equipment. If you want to hand over your power tools to grandgrandsons - it is a nice variant 😁
By the way, which one do you have at houses?
 
1:26 PM
I've got tools from a bunch of different sources
 
 
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2:28 PM
@RyanM which brand?
 
@manro uhhhh...really a bunch of different ones. Klein Tools, ChannelLock, Bosch, Tekton...
almost every tool is from a different company
 
@RyanM nice instruments, never heard before about these firms earlier, except Bosch :)
Tekton makes very sexy hammers 😉
 
Ah, but my hammer is a Plumb.
 
3:14 PM
@RyanM fiberglass handle is tough?
 
honestly I do very little hammering, so I don't have strong opinions on hammers.
 
@RyanM what is your favourite instrument?
 
As in, musical instrument?
 
3:33 PM
@RyanM noo) bench tools
Sorry for my English
 
Oh, uh. Hmmm. Toss-up between ratcheting screwdriver because it's handy, and non-contact voltage tester because it's cool.
...and also because I don't want to get shocked.
 
@RyanM i saw this thing in new multimeters. I want it too ;)
Do you have a Fluke? Or an ordinary Chinese one?
 
I have one of these
 
Wow! Like a pen
 
I don't do enough work requiring a multimeter to justify buying a Fluke. As much as I'd like one.
I bought an IR thermometer the other day, and considered Fluke's, because...well, it's better. Buuuutttt it costs 2.5x as much.
 
3:45 PM
High-level tool costs its money. You will see it "on the distance", especially.
 
I was tempted, because it has water resistance and I want it for cooking. But I don't really need that, in theory.
...and if I break this one, I can buy another one at full price and it will still have cost less money than a Fluke.
 
You are right too, for the cooking it is redundant :)
 
(It's also more accurate and faster. But again...I don't actually need that.)
 
Do you love to bake? ;)
 
I do have a very fast, very accurate food thermometer. But that's for poking into the food.
I don't bake much, but I should do it more.
I don't cook a lot in general.
if I cooked more I'd probably need fewer gadgets to make up for my lack of skill ;-)
 
3:54 PM
@RyanM cool, right choice. You can spare a lot of money by cooking at home
 
I live alone, though, so it doesn't scale quite as well as it otherwise would...
Also, it's a lot of time.
 
@RyanM i recommend you to buy a multicooker.
 
I have one of those too :-)
 
@RyanM it really helps. You can work, it can cook. Before you find a wife it is a nice solution 😁
 
Oh, my partner lives just downstairs. But...they cook even less than I do.
 
4:04 PM
They? Her family?
 
Singular they is the use in English of the pronoun they or its inflected or derivative forms, them, their, theirs, and themselves (or themself), as an epicene (gender-neutral) singular pronoun. It typically occurs with an unspecified antecedent, in sentences such as: "Somebody left their umbrella in the office. Could you please let them know where they can get it?" "The patient should be told at the outset how much they will be required to pay." "But a journalist should not be forced to reveal their sources."The singular they emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the plural they....
 
It is strange for me, but ok.
How i should write to an american citizen if i don't know its pronoun?
*e-mail
 
"if I don't know their pronoun" would be one way
 
Most of americans are already tolerate to this thing? Except rednecks and native americans, yes?
 
I wouldn't stereotype like that. I would say that generally most Americans understand referring to people whose gender you don't know as "they."
Though I do of course know my partner's gender, I'm just being deliberately ambiguous.
 
4:31 PM
If I will work with americans I should know it.
Now, it is a very dangerous thing, like religion and nationality.
I heard, that descendants of italians, irish continue to consider them like italians, irish. Not americans. Is it true?
 
 
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@VLAZ It finally happened: I got so desperate for space I used emoji in a flag:
(494 characters)
Edited down from ~560.
 
@RyanM 👍
:P
Maybe we could have a secret badge for "used emoji in mod flag"
 
"Abbreviator" - used emoji in a moderator flag that was at least 480 characters in length.
 
"And the flag is marked helpful"
 
Oh right, that's important.
 
 
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8:49 PM
@RyanM next step: use Newspeak and get a helpful flag. ^_^ "noimpro", "badindent", "metacommt"
@manro unless your pen friend is an American toaster, please do not use "it" or derivatives
 
@OlegValter Double plus that.
 
9:07 PM
@VLAZ well, we already have MiniMod in the works, so the bright feature is not that far off :)
 
@OlegValter American airlines - they)
I damaged my leg, sh...(
 
@manro depends on the context)
 
@OlegValter the blossoming of left wing :) We will survive )
 
@manro I am not sure one has good survival chances when boarding a plane that has its left wing blossoming
 
@OlegValter I see, that you aren't lost ;)
 
9:22 PM
@manro last time I checked, I wasn't present in the local "lost & found" buro, so yes, likely
 
 
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10:49 PM
@manro Surprisingly, that is actually quite normal and common as a way of fighting with moderators here. It isn't very effective, but it is quite common.
@RyanM Interesting. I'd be wary of trusting that, but it's probably just because it's different. :-)
I've seen the clamp-on meters for current detection, which are useful in some cases, but I haven't seen no-contact voltage measurement.
@manro You want to avoid calling people "it". Although it seems like a gender-neutral pronoun, in English, "it" is reserved for non-living objects. It can be offensive to call a person "it", because it is dehumanizing and disrespectful. Like Ryan says, "they" has become popular as a non-gendered pronoun, although reception is mixed. It's a reasonable compromise, but not an ideal solution for many reasons.
 
> There are various methods by which you may achieve ignominy and shame. By murdering a large and respected family in cold blood and afterward depositing their bodies in the water companies' reservoir, you will gain much unpopularity in the neighborhood of your crime, and even robbing a church will get you cordially disliked, especially by the vicar.
 
If you're comfortable using it, you likely won't go wrong with "they". But don't twist yourself up in knots about it. If you don't know someone's pronouns, just ask them. If it's not convenient to ask, then, in my opinion, it is reasonable to assume based on context (e.g., what their name sounds like). Just be open to being corrected, and if they tell you, "please call me 'she'", then do that.
 
> But if you desire to drain to the dregs the fullest cup of scorn and hatred that a fellow human creature can pour out for you, let a young mother hear you call dear baby "it.
 
Heh. "It's so cute!" is a phrase I've heard uttered on multiple occasions with respect to a baby.
 
Eh, the quote might be slightly outdated. It was written in the context of 19th century England by Jerome K. Jerome
 
11:00 PM
@manro Not really. Some immigrants try hard to maintain their "original" identities from their country of origin, and sometimes that gets passed down to their children. Other times, they don't. Most of the time, people identify as both "Irish" and "American" (hence, Irish-American)... or whatever other ethnic group.
@RyanM How does that save space over just... not using the emojis or the dashes?
 
11:17 PM
@CodyGray Maybe I'm incorrect, but I think in some years we will return to the God's ideas. He made man and woman, he hadn't other planes.
 
How do you know?
Ongoing research suggests that things are a bit more complicated than earlier generations of humans realized, and their biases are mostly what defined religion as we know it today.
 
I believe
 
I'm not speaking of your belief in God, I'm speaking of your lack of belief in biology.
 
Yes, I'm aren't a fan of biology) But i have some ideas why and whom it needed: sex revolution, pronouns, transculture etc.
But i don't want to achieve a ban)
I'll tell you during our private meeting in Texas ;)
Some people told me that I'm an uneducated ancient stick-in-the-mud person, that's why I have these views) So 😁
Outdated guy xD
In IT terms, i'm a version 1.0001(build 0001)? )))
 
11:40 PM
@CodyGray I ideally want to include the correct result, so I'd previous been writing "accept" or "reject" at least in cases where they weren't all the same. I suppose it's implied that the correct result is the thing that the person being flagged didn't do, but I also like to add additional clarity where "improve" would have been arguably acceptable (including in one case where I did in fact approve the edit with "improve", but still flagged them for getting it wrong by approving as-is).
as far as the dashes...well, they replace a space and I'm sort of just toying with what looks nicest without taking up additional characters.
Technically including the user and link to their profile is a waste of space, too, but it's helpful for my own accounting when looking through flags, especially to see if I've already flagged something, and that at least supports a very short link format (/u/12345678)
 
Hmm, I see.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to trust a mod to judge what action is obviously correct.
 
11:56 PM
I can't fall asleep today, why (
2AM
What i should do
 

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