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11:00 AM
@CodyGray From now on.. there's noway I'm the weird one :)
 
What's weird about that?
I don't want sunlight ruining my plastics.
Also, I don't want the bright fluorescent lights I have over my workbench to create massive light pollution in my front yard (which is where my windows face).
 
Yes. Plastics are very important. Especially when trying to get as pale as Dracula ;)
 
There are other rooms with windows.
 
Turn the sun off and light the rooms with artificial light :D
 
The sun turns itself off each night.
Which means that I need to do precisely that.
 
11:04 AM
I meant including during the day. I think it's more normal in places where pale skin is seen at prettier.
Personally I don't do well in those rooms that never get any sunlight.
 
@CodyGray I see you favoured the answer that made heavy use of the em-dash! :-) (Which, by pure accident, is also the best answer.)
 
@AdrianMole Hmm, I actually didn't notice the typography.
I naturally didn't favor the answer that is a link-orgy.
 
lol! Is that even a word :)
 
It was one of those problems where I could see what the cause of the problem was (eventually) but couldn't express it well enough to post an answer. I also didn't know the stuff about the x87 fsin function - which is kinda important, I guess.
 
Yeah.
It makes all the people who were bashing C# in the comments look pretty silly.
@AdrianMole Why didn't you just make that statement in the first sentence, and then post a bunch of unrelated links? Could have gotten a bunch of upvotes.
And no downvotes until I came along... :-\
 
11:15 AM
hehe
 
I wonder if there's enough reputation points total on Stack to be able to downvote all Answers.
 
I don't know; I've only tried downvoting all the answers on Meta. :-p
 
If anyone can do it, it would be Community♦ (in disguise, of course).
 
Community already is the disguise!
 
No. I'm not gonna bite.
 
11:19 AM
I didn't know you bit.
 
@AdrianMole I thought Community didn't go it unless one asked it to "Kindly, take over all my votes".
 
OK, now that's just wrong.
 
How is that wrong? :)
 
The comma.
 
Please, tell me :)
 
11:21 AM
Not if "Kindly" is one of Community's aliases.
 
That's true.
 
@Scratte It's a "let's eat grandma" situation, but reversed.
 
That would be a nice username.. let me go and check it that's still there. If not, I may go with "Kindly bring kindly back"
 
Throwing up grandma?
 
@Scratte Yes, easily. The top 50 users could do it by themselves if not for the daily vote limit. There are 31,040,887 answers, and they have a combined 34,230,525 rep.
(that's for Stack Overflow specifically)
 
11:23 AM
Some of them have tried :-)
 
Ohh.. there's one right out of "Due Sounth". A thankyoukindly :D
I'm still not comfortable not using "kindly"
 
That makes no sense.
 
@RyanM Ahh.. so all we need is to stop all answering until all that reputation is dispersed :D
 
@Scratte You can use "kindly" without grammatical error; it's the comma that's wrong.
 
Though...it occurs to me that downvoting all answers might have a disparate impact on...well, specifically those 50 people.
 
11:26 AM
@AdrianMole Thank you kindly, Adrian :)
 
You see - that way round, it's OK.
 
they might have to be strategic about the order in which they downvote them.
 
Why would the order be relevant?
 
@RyanM Ahh.. that check didn't account for users not being able to vote on their own posts.
 
@CodyGray if their answers are downvoted after they've already spent all their rep, it doesn't matter
but...even Jon Skeet would "only" lose ~70k rep if all his answers were downvoted once.
so I don't think it's enough to matter.
 
11:28 AM
You mean, they would need to coordinate the downvoting amongst themselves, to ensure that they only downvoted each others' answers after the author had used up their daily allotment of downvotes?
Yeah, I don't think that matters.
 
No, rather that they'd have to only downvote each other's answers after the recipient of the downvotes was down to 1 rep. But I don't think it matters, because they (probably, I haven't checked) have enough extra rep to just eat the downvotes.
 
Oh, I see. Yeah, definitely.
 
In order to be able to downvote at all, you need 125 reputation points. So to not take some users out of game, one needs to wait with downvoting them until "everyone" is at 125 reputation
At the end, only the high reputation users are left with the option, no? :)
Or rather.. they take themselves out of the game slower than other users will take them out.
 
Also, Jon Skeet gets 200 reputation a day whether he does anything or not. So there's that.
 
@Scratte Yeah, we could play a very fun game of Risk, complete with alliances and everything.
 
11:36 AM
@RyanM Looking at this again. It's not feasible if no posts are downvoted already. Every downvote takes 3 reputation points total.
Unless you mean that just those 50 users could do it all.
 
Are you trying to downvote all posts to -1? Or just downvote each post once?
 
Each one once. I'm trying to be fashionable :)
 
Why does every downvote take 3 reputation points?
 
2 from the owner and 1 from the voter.
 
Those R-HUB audits are mean for non-Charcoallers :-p stackoverflow.com/posts/65736329/timeline
 
11:45 AM
Argh.
A mod nuked that as spam, instead of abusive. That's unfortunate.
 
Does editing it like that remove it from the audit pool?
 
That's what I've been told.
Posts that have ever been edited should not be candidates for selection as audits.
 
Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.
 
At least not in LQP: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/253786
I remember Shog telling me this, too. I suspect there's a Meta answer, but it's not appearing.
As a slightly unrelated matter, this is the evidence that R/A flags will not make an answer into an audit.
 
Interesting, I didn't know the backstory there.
 
12:00 PM
Has happened multiple times.
The thought used to be, if you were reviewing for bad content, you should be wearing your big-boy pants and be prepared to see... actual garbage. Because it's out there.
Somewhere along the lines, that changed, and we tried to protect you a bit.
 
One of the problems with the audit selection process is that (it seems), once the system has chosen a post, subsequent actions don't seem to remove that post from the audit pool. Sometimes. There was that very poor Close Vote audit (I failed it, so it must have been a bad audit); I have also seen an answer I posted used as an audit after it had been edited.
 
There's some brokenness in the audit-selection process.
 
Some?
 
It sometimes picks audits that it should not pick, according to its own criteria.
 
Many brokennesses.
 
I like Shog's opening line on this answer. Sums up a lot of the grumbles.
 
Already upvoted that.
Oh, yeah. I remember that.
We had a big thing for a while where people were trying to close all "comparison questions", somewhat like we are now doing with "how-to questions".
 
@CodyGray This is, in at least one case I've seen, likely due to the fact that it doesn't remove an audit it's already created when the criteria are no longer met.
 
Hmm, that's what Adrian said he's noticed, too.
 
We may have discussed it. And I may have posted it on Meta.
 
12:08 PM
I failed an audit a few days ago. First (only) one this year. It was just a 'mis-click' really (I'd already confirmed it was an audit). I was in "Reopen" and, momentarily, my mind put me in "Close Votes" ... so I clicked "Leave Open" ... only it wasn't, it was "Leave Closed". I think I should complain that the buttons aren't labelled in BIG ENOUGH FONTS.
 
Good news: the buttons are going away!
You won't ever be able to click the wrong one again.
 
Radio-buttons are still buttons, is not?
 
Hmm.
 
But, not sure yet about the new UI. Haven't had much chance to test it (Meta.SO queues are seldom more than 1 or 2 per day).
... first impressions are that the basic presentation looks a lot 'busier'. USS Enterprise control panel syndrome.
 
12:16 PM
Have you tested it much? I guess you have 'normal' review privileges on Meta.SE - is that one of the test sites?
 
@AdrianMole Please bring back the "Primarily" keyword..
 
@CodyGray s/audit/review/, I believe
brought to you by my "wait is the interface so confusing I can't tell it's an audit?" reaction
 
I didn't even realize that Meta reviews have audits.
 
Who knows?
I've never reviewed anything on MSO.
 
I expect this new UI is having a right sidebar when it's a review. And no right sidebar when it's no longer a review. I find that to be.. bad.
 
12:22 PM
That one you linked is no longer a review. It has a right sidebar. The only option is "Next".
Uh... new question: where is the "link" link, so I can see the actual post?
 
@CodyGray title of the post
 
There's no title?
 
right under "Review the following question"
 
@CodyGray I already asked that (as an answer to the Meta.SE announcement).
 
Did you get an answer?
 
12:24 PM
Umm. Not yet. Got a few upvotes (and one downvote) though.
 
(I'm looking at this link; is that what we're talking about?)
 
Yeah.
Wait, what the heck?
I disabled userscripts, but I'm still seeing stuff that I think must be added by a userscript.
Wow.
They must have actually copied Sam's (and others') userscript, which added a "suspend user from reviewing" quick-link to the blue box. That's now a built-in feature.
I mean, for moderators. I guess y'all don't see that link. :-)
 
and here I was hoping for an easy way to deal with some of these reviewers ;-)
 
12:39 PM
Yes, you cropped it off in your screenshot :-)
 
@CodyGray I didn't. I even included the scroll bar for you :)
 
Your viewport is too small then!
 
It's not.. :)
 
It must be, if you're seeing the browser's native scrollbar that close to the content's right edge.
 
Same size exactly for a suggested edit review on main
 
12:42 PM
Oh, the Actions actually go to the bottom if your viewport is small.
 
And here one from Triage exact same window size
@CodyGray I don't have any actions on it. Not one. This is the bottom half
 
1:15 PM
Have you removed them somehow?
 
@RyanM No.
Just tried with: User scripts off, uBlocker off, CSS changes off. Same result.
 
@Scratte I see much the same layout as your screenshots.
 
So it's not just a reputation thing.
 
1:32 PM
Ain't nuthin' but a G thang
 
I think I'll need that in my native language..
 
Not sure how urban English vernacular translates to Danish.
I assume you aren't familiar with either Dr. Dre or Snoop Dogg?
 
No. I'm not.
 
1:47 PM
What about Brian Williams?
 
Man, I miss Brian Williams!
 
2:15 PM
I am pleased that I correctly guessed the author of that comment on my MSO post from my notifications...
 
It's much easier now, because Shog9 isn't around on MSO hardly at all anymore.
Our snark is readily differentiable, but it takes a better honed sense.
 
Wait.. are you snarking on meta again?
 
Seen one snark, seen them all.
 
When did I stop?
 
Every time you take a break, you stop for a while, no?
It's like people that stop smoking 20 times a day.
 
2:26 PM
Difference is that I don't try and fool myself, claiming that I stopped.
You don't really take "breaks", either.
You just give the people a chance to rest.
 
People that quit smoking 20 times also don't fool themselves. It's just taking a break between smoking :D
But ever since Boson went homeless, I've not kept up with meta.
I still have hope that someone will find a server and a new home for Boson.
 
Why is a bot required to keep up with Meta?
 
Because then one will better notice the snark in comments.. the real gems.
I used to read the Boson transcript
 
That's the bot that captured all comments? So you could see the deleted ones?
 
Yes. That was helpful when users deleted their own comments but users replying to it didn't and the entire comment thread was puzzling.
But I mostly based which posts I bothered to read on the comments.
Which incidentally had me read very old posts too.
 
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