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12:23 AM
Hei, hei.
 
yo
 
Hello :=)
 
> A lock icon, and «This community is available in the app».
@Andreas Its not like that for me, I even tried in the incognito mode
 
No Andreas, banning the words from private people is not what I'm advocating at all. I am not trying to make it so that no one can use them in any way.
Me either. I went to the link and it started saying something.. and after a minute it loaded.
 
@mega6382 Are you logged in?
 
12:26 AM
yes, always
but I wasn't in incognito
 
@mega6382 Are you logged in? Could it be because the servers/client-side JS recognizes I’m on iOS?
Ehm... that’s the second edit in a short time that’s sent as a new message.
 
@Andreas is there not a continue with safari option?
 
I mean if I owned a company, and I found that some of my employees were having conversations using expletives around customers, I'd ask them to stop. Not because they bother me, but because it's not necessary to use them, and it may offend someone.
 
@mega6382 Usually, yes, but not in this case.
 
@Scratte around customers, sure, because that is suppose to be a formal setting. But around each other in a casual manner, then no you shouldn't have the right.
 
12:29 AM
@Scratte I think you’d risk being taken to court if you did that here.
 
@mega6382 I can make it a rule in the building, if I want to.. since, I pick my employees, no?
 
@Andreas hmm, interesting, maybe you should get the app, reddit is literally the greatest social media app, and it is focused on communities rather than individuals
 
@Andreas I can do it in Denmark. I do not know if I can demand it, but I can easily get rid of the ones that are uncooperative.
 
@Scratte no, i don't think that it works like that. Only when someone explicitly reports to hr about it can some action be taken, and even then it would mean that they would not be included in such conversations any further.
 
And I'm pretty sure that if anyone sends correspondence to clients using expletives, would be laid off pretty fast.
 
12:32 AM
@mega6382 If I don’t want an account, I probably don’t want the app either. ;) I do read Reddit from time to time.
 
@mega6382 How so? I can just tell them that this is a company rule, and just slowly get rid of everyone that doesn't comply.
 
@Scratte yes, like i said, discussions with clients/customers are formal and use of such words violate that
@Scratte You can't fire someone without proper reason, and this is not. There are many laws that protect the workforce in such regards
 
@mega6382 That's where my "all chats are public" was going.
@mega6382 In what country?
 
@Scratte Unsure how Danish laws on freedom or speech are, but Norway has a long history of a very large freedom of speech, though some things had their ban removed rather late. I’d assume they’re pretty much the same as ours. What I do know, however, is that Danish workers have far less protection than Norwegian ones. This could have an impact on what bosses can demand from their workers.
 
@Scratte in any proper democracy I would think
 
12:35 AM
I don't have to fire someone for using expletives. I can fire them because their work isn't needed.
 
@mega6382 In many countries, you can. Denmark doesn’t have that strict laws on this.
 
@mega6382 In Denmark an employer can get rid of any employee they want to. Except in special circumstances. It makes it easy to get a job, because employers are not bound to keep them.
 
In Norway, it can in certain cases be almost impossible to fire a person.
 
Whatever system you have, there's a downside. Denmark want to make it possible for people to get jobs when they need it and to make employers less reluctant to hire people.
@Andreas Not here. There are agreements, so that if a person has worked for someone for 10 years, they have to compensate when they fire someone. But those agreement are not made by law. They're union agreements.
 
@Scratte you might want to read the accepted answer in this in its entirety workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/158261/…
 
12:39 AM
@Scratte Yes, I know people that work in Danish companies, in Norway. The work/leadership culture is very different, despite our similarities.
 
@mega6382 That would take me away from this conversation ;)
 
you can do it later at your leisure
 
Requiring someone not to swear could be taken as an insult.
 
I'm actually not even sure if Stack allows the use of "#%¤&!!" instead of actual words.
@Andreas I would find that very insulting. But I have the option to quit.
 
12:42 AM
@Andreas no
 
@AndrasDeak Yes.
 
@Scratte not everyone does, jobs and steady pay is very important to many people
 
I mean, people are such that literally anything can be taken as an insult, but the question is whether it can reasonably be taken as an insult, so no
 
To be honest, I'd quit a job where the normal conversations were full of profanities.
 
It’s a question of culture. When it’s perfectly normal to swear, it is insulting to require people not to do that.
@mega6382 Depends on the country.
 
12:44 AM
@mega6382 Yes, it is. And forcing someone to use profanities is no different from forcing them to do other things they are very uncomfortable doing. No one is hurt by walking around naked in the office in shame. But people rarely want to do it.
 
hmmm, I doubt any of us have the proper expertise to reach a legitimate conclusion to this topic
 
there's no "legitimate conclusion"; it's as subjective it gets (i.e. social norms)
 
then I am sure that we will all leave with the same views we came in with :p
 
Yes. Just like talking politics.
 
Heh.. this is a little funny though "expressing your emotions periodically with nasty words might be expected and tolerated" ..nasty does really say it for me.
@mega6382 Did you expect us to reach a consensus? :)
 
12:49 AM
oh, I always knew that we won't :D
 
@mega6382 I regularly change my opinions if I get enough arguments/facts against me that are good, and I cannot answer those. I usually need some time, though.
 
@mega6382 But I do not think you are right. I think every discussion leave something behind in the mind of the others. So while you may not be convinced or persuaded, I have left a little mark in your head, and you have left one in mine.
 
sure there will always be some effect of any conversation
 
Unless of course people are just fighting, but that's different :)
 
that will have an effect too, I am sure, not a good one but an effect nonetheless
 
12:58 AM
I find that when people are screaming at me, I'm less inclined to understand their position.
 
Bruises and scars?
 
Heh.. if people are physically hurting me, then the conversation is over, no?
 
No; the opinions are just being exchanged with the hands and feet instead.
 
But then it's a fight and it's not about convincing, it's about winning.
And angry people are usually less open :)
 
@Scratte - but yes, that’s probably true for any case, unless of course the entire world is screaming at you.
Oh, haven’t I heard the words «debate», «win» and «lose» so many times together.
 
1:04 AM
I thought those were mostly connected in politics.
 
I guess I’ve fallen too deep into following politics, then.
 
I find that it doesn't make me happier.. so I tend to ignore it.
 
I find that it‘s an important aspect of our lives, and as I want to know what happens in my life, and control it, I follow it as much as I can.
 
I do not feel I can control it at all. I mean how do I go about stopping cyanide bombs to kill animals in nature in the US?
 
You could vote for a parliament that would sell Greenland with the condition to no longer make cyanide bombs.
 
1:15 AM
lol!.. I do not think that would fix it.
To be honest, I just want to invalidate the entire presidency.
..and bring those children back to life.
 
I’d rather invalidate the entire political system.
 
You mean no rules? Isn't that what they kind of did in the US? :D
It's 3:25 in the morning!..
 
Neh... Get rid of the flawed system; replace it with one that works instead.
@Scratte We should go to bed.
 
Yes. I'm going off to my thunderstorm :)
Hej med dig :)
 
Ha det og god natt. :)
Should the ministry speak more Scandinavian?
 
2:35 AM
@CodyGray I just searched the logs, and came across this. Is that a typo on your part? We don’t pronounce «hjem» as «kem», but we do pronounce «hvem» as «kem».
 
@Andreas Not a typo. That's what I heard when I learned the language, and also have read other places.
Bergenites, it is said, do pronounce it that way.
Maybe you don't consider yourself doing that, though.
 
@CodyGray I’m western Norwegian, and 100% sure you’re wrong.
 
I don't remember where I read it
But I do remember in my Norwegian class, there was a girl whose parents were from Bergen, and she said that's definitely how they pronounced it.
I recall this because she was cute, so I paid attention to various things she said. :-)
Anyway, I'm sure there's a lot of variation in pronunciation, not only across regions, but even just across individuals.
So drawing sweeping conclusions hardly makes any sense.
Ah, here's a sort of source: books.google.com/…
 
mhm, no; «hjem» («home») is not pronounced «kem» in any of the Bergen dialects. If you must know; I went to school in Bergen, so yes, I lived and grew up in the area.
 
I can't copy-paste, but: "Note. In the western and northern part of Norway the pronominal words spelt with 'hv' are regularly pronounced with 'k': kem, ka, etc., while some others are pronounced with 'kv': kvass, kvit, kvalp, etc. This pronunciation is not used by polite society, but the traveller may come across it."
Good news, @Andreas: you may be part of polite society!
'Course... that book is copyright 1894, so... maybe things have changed? :-p
 
2:43 AM
Aha!
 
Oh
 
No, you didn’t.
 
What other word would be pronounced "kem"?
Haha, okay
 
You mixed «hv» and «hj».
 
See, I'm not as dumb as I look.
Ah!
 
2:44 AM
«Hj» is definitely replaced by «k»! ;P
 
I did!
Hvem (who/whose) == kvem
but men hjem (home) != kvem.
I get it.
 
«Kvem» isn’t so usual, but «kem» is. That’s what my dialect uses. :)
 
Ah
Well
They'd be pronounced the same way, right?
You wouldn't actually say the "v" anyway, I think.
So my spelling is bad
 
Well; considering the written language is still the same (ignoring we’ve 2), I was talking about the pronounciation.
So «kvem» and «kem» are different.
 
Oh, are they? You'd actually pronounce those differently?
Yeah, I guess so.
 
2:47 AM
Yeah
 
Man, it's been a long time.
 
:P
 
I'm mostly just winging it here.
 
You could start writing «kem» and whatever not part of the written language, but at that point, you’d be into the field of writing as you speech.
 
I prefer to speak with the non-dialectical versions
That's the only ones I have any chance at all with.
 
2:49 AM
Then that is only pseudo-Norwegian.
;P
Speaking a language that is, after all, only defined as a written one.
 
That's what everyone does, though, for all languages.
 
- but which one would you speak? Nynorsk? Bokmål? Old Nynorsk? Old Bokmål? Riksmål? Danish?
 
Bokmal
The US-ASCII version :-)
 
What would you do next time bokmål changes?
@CodyGray >:(
 
@Andreas Just ignore it and hope it goes away. Works for everything else, right?
 
2:53 AM
@CodyGray mhm...
Good luck.
 
Honestly, I've forgotten 90% of what I knew.
Like I said, I actually learned both Bokmål and Old Norse to a pretty reasonable level of proficiency.
But that was a while ago now, and as my brain fills with new things, it tends to purge older things.
 
You probably learned Old Norse to a better level than mine. 😐 Should I be concerned?
 
I don't think that's a cause for concern, no.
I likely learned more organic chemistry than you did, too.
 
@CodyGray That shouldn’t be too hard.
 
I had an instructor that I really liked who did her PhD work on the role of women in Norse skalder
(Not for organic chemistry.)
That was why I decided to take Old Norse in the first place.
It wasn't even remotely relevant to what else I was studying, and definitely didn't meet any requirements for graduation.
 
3:05 AM
So you took Old Norse to be with her? :D
As interesting as the topic may be, I really dislike writing long, formal texts. I wouldn’t do well in an area like this.
 
3:21 AM
Yeah
I really like learning from smart people, regardless of what it is that I'm actually learning.
Oh, I don't have a problem with writing formal texts. I'm... pretty good at it.
 
@CodyGray Well; it depends on the type of text. A long text about programming would be fine, but a long text about philosophy? Journalism? Analysing something non-scientific? History? Spoken languages? No, not my kind of topics.
@CodyGray Well, yeah, I find it weird not to, but to invest so much time in it?
 
I did major in history, after all.
Writing long-form analysis papers is something I can do in my sleep.
 
mhm, yeah... History is very interesting, until I need to write something myself. I can perfectly fine spend a few hours, starting off at Wikipedia, then slowly jumping to more in-depth articles, reading about whatever historic events, or the development of technology.
Surprisingly, history, religion/philosophy, geography and social science are the courses I received top grades in, in secondary.
I wrote myself to 5 (scale 1-6 (1=F)), then talked myself to a 6.
So there’s my issue. I’m just not good at getting through the message when I write.
So I wouldn’t even try these courses at a university.
Programming is my preferred field. :)
Computers are much simpler. They don’t need to be bargained with.
 
citation required.
 
Well; so long there’s not a bug somewhere.
 
3:32 AM
I spent the past several days bargaining, bartering, and cajoling with the Linux kernel
 
Then there’s a bug somewhere.
Or an architecture lacking in features.
Or an annoying guard.
Or some hardware hating you.
Did the Linux kernel accept your demands in the end?
 
It actually did
It turns out that older versions of the Linux kernel don't compile on GCC 8, at least when targeting ARM, due to some behavior changes in the compiler.
I don't have the luxury of upgrading to a newer version of the kernel, but I need to use a newer compiler toolchain, so I ended up just making manual patches.
 
So you were actually bargaining, bartering and cajoling with the compiler?
Or the source code was taking advantage of a bug or an obsolete feature?
 
Not the compiler
Some of the kernel code is a steaming pile of...
 
Trash?
Garbage?
 
3:40 AM
GCC 8 is more strict about enforcing stuff than GCC 7, but all of the stuff that it was erroring on was wrong to begin with. It only worked on GCC 7 by accident, really.
I kind of expected better.
This was the first time I ever really dug into Linux kernel source code.
Before this, I'd only ever been a passive consumer, even though I have compiled it before.
 
I read once that the whole kernel itself has become a mess today.
 
Well, I'm not going to criticize high-level architecture decisions.
I totally understand how that happens. As Linus himself said, the kernel evolved. It was not intelligently designed.
I'm talking about the line-by-line stuff. Like, why did you ever think that was the correct way to write that line of code?
const register <-- really?
 
Yet it’s more stable than Windows.
@CodyGray ;P
 
That was the first error that cost me a whole day trying to figure out.
Some header file containing inline assembly had declared a register variable as const. GCC 7 apparently permitted this without even a warning, but GCC 8 was not having any of it. And rightfully so!
 
Sure is strange how many terrible things one can find in production code.
 
3:47 AM
I finally got it to build successfully, but GCC 8 is giving me zillions of warnings about string buffers being too small for things like strncpy.
I would hope the kernel developers have fixed this in later releases, but I have an embedded system that I don't have the time to update right now.
 
Hasn’t it been fixed by now, it may never be.
Anyway. I’m getting very tired now. I should’ve slept long ago.
Good night. :)
 
'Night!
 
 
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5:32 AM
@DanielWiddis It's not specific to programming. It would be about any sort of task that requires high levels of mental focus. Whether caffeine helps with this or hurts would be a question for Biology or perhaps Skeptics. There's bound to be peer-reviewed research.
@Scratte To be fair, most commercially available sausages don't use intestines for the lining. They use some kind of synthetic collagen casings. (I assume this is what you were referring to, by analogy to Crappucino.)
@Scratte Oh, oops... :-X
@DanielWiddis What's wrong with long in C...? Is it not sufficiently long for you?
@DanielWiddis timeval is not a C type. Blame POSIX.
 
6:12 AM
What's wrong with it is that sometimes it's 4 bytes and sometimes it's 8 bytes. :)
 
That's true of all types in C except char. They do not have a guaranteed size.
int might be 2 bytes, might be 4, might be 8...
 
Then that's another thing wrong with C.
 
If you want fixed-size types, use <stdint.h>
When you use int, you mean "the natural size signed integer on this system".
 
That means I would be compiling my program in C, which would not be a problem because I can just use the types without caring about their bitness. But when I'm interfacing with C types from another language through FFI, I need to know how to map the bytes. I don't have the luxury of compiling, or even knowing what compile-time switches were used. I gave up figuring out the size of off_t.
(And yes, I blame POSIX)
 
You really have to give up figuring out the size of any types...
They're defined by an ABI, not the compiler or language.
I'm not sure how Fatal Familial Insomnia relates to language interop, but I believe that in these sorts of prion diseases, you can make assumptions about the ABI because you know your target.
 
6:17 AM
If I want to execute a function in libc, and it specifies an argument, I'd like to know how many bytes and in what order it wants from me.
Invoke the function at pointer address X, and here's the stack of arguments. Go.
 
@DanielWiddis Hah!
You don't even know what the calling convention is!
 
And I don't care because a library abstracts all that away from me! All I need to know is the byte width of the arguments!
 
Wait, how does a library abstract away the calling convention? You mean that the library actually handles marshalling the arguments?
So then why doesn't the library know the byte width?
 
It generally does for standard types.
But when mapping a function that is not in the library, I have to read the C header to see what size is expected. Which is generally fine, until C headers decide to hide the true definition in 15 layers of includes.
 
I still don't understand how that could possibly work
How do you know which of the dozens of variants of the headers that the program was compiled against?
 
6:27 AM
You don't. Which was exactly my point. Most of the time, if you're sticking to standard system libraries, you don't have to worry about it.
 
It seems to me like you're just making horribly dangerous assumptions, even with system libraries.
 
Generally the documentation warns when that will be a problem.
So you steer away from those.
 
Uh....
No?
 
What do you mean no?
 
I do not think that the documentation consistently warns about the fact that types are not a fixed size.
 
6:32 AM
Generally on a given OS, the sizes remain consistent. So a long might always be 8 bytes on macOS, 4 bytes on Windows, and 4 or 8 on Linux depending on the OS bitness, for the same C header. So you deal with that.
 
OK, so what you're actually relying on is the ABI
Whether that is System V, Win32, or whatever
 
Indirectly, yes.
 
But it's not really an OS thing.
Linux can use a variety of different ABIs, for example.
 
But I don't deal directly with the ABIs. I let the library handle that for me. It's all the same to me, libffi translates it.
 
7:01 AM
Which means most of the mental effort involved is in mapping function arguments and returns, and structure fields. Which requires translating the C header types to the appropriate bit width that libffi expects for that function. Which is why things like timeval annoy me. Or man pages describing structures as "This is defined approximately as follows" or "contains at least these elements".
 
 
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8:45 AM
@CodyGray It was :) There is however a very good butcher in my area, and I'm quite confident that the homemade ones are using intestines :) There's a lot of things we find normal thought and fine, that when you say it differently makes people gross out. Like eggs being amniotic fluid.
 
I call them "embryonic chickens".
I do not like the taste of grown chickens, but I do very much like them in their embryonic form.
 
I do not think they are. Most of them are not fertlized.
So there's only really the amniotic fluids.. no chickens in there, in any state ;)
And even the ones that are, it's only a very tiny part, no?
 
Yeah, the yolk of an egg just contains nutrients that the embryo feeds upon during development.
Placental mammals like humans are matrotrophic; chickens and other birds who lay eggs are lecithotropic, because the nutrients are supplied to the developing fetus via the egg yolk.
 
I have a feeling that the key to eternal life is somewhere to found in there :D
 
Why?
Chickens don't live forever...
 
8:50 AM
No, but they also do not live in the eggs for very long.
 
The reason why human amniotic fluid would be kinda gross is because it collects excretory products (waste). Bird amniotic fluid doesn't do this.
But eggs are far more than just amniotic fluid
 
@CodyGray I didn't know that. How do they get rid of waste?
 
Um... I'm not actually sure
Oh
Apparently it's stored in the allantoic cavity.
 
@CodyGray Hmm.. I have my day cut out now :D
I do not even know what allantoic is.
 
Glad to be of service. :-)
 
9:01 AM
OK. I see where that is from images :) Funny, because when I searched for it in Danish, there was no explanation.
 
It's probably not a Danish word...?
 
I had an impression it may have been a part of the bird that got excreted after coming out of the egg.
Well, it's not inherently Danish, but there's a translation to "allantoisk hulrum" from "allantoic cavity"
 
> The allantoic membrane forms a sac and accumulates allantoic fluid, which is of both maternal and fetal (urine) origin. The components of allantoic fluid include water, glucose, fructose, amino acids, electrolytes, proteins, hormones, and growth factors...
>
> In the human embryo, it is just a vestige of the large, saclike structure that is used by the embryos of many mammals, birds, and reptiles as a major respiratory organ and repository for urinary wastes. Similar to the yolk sac, the allantois in a human retains only a secondary function, in this case respiration.
 
I do not understand how birds "breathe" while they're in the eggs..
..but I also didn't try to study it. Mostly because I come across at least 2 words in every sentence that I need to look up and understand.
 
Little sacs of air
This is why eggs are porous (the shells are filled with tiny little holes).
This is, by the way, how Salmonella and other bacteria can get in to contaminate eggs, which is why poorly-handled eggs can make you sick if you eat them raw.
 
9:10 AM
Yes, but there's also a membrane. I suppose oxygen and carbon-dioxide can easily travel through. But I'm not sure if I was encased in an egg, that the transfer would happen quickly enough.
@CodyGray I thought part of this was contamination from the hen when laying the egg.
 
That can also happen, where Salmonella contaminates the inside of the eggs before the shell is fully formed.
 
I think I once had a case of a bad egg of some sort. I had a very rough night where I was worries I was going to die.
 
That could be caused be caused by any contaminated food.
 
9:32 AM
But.. I only had an egg on bread :) And I made a sunny side up, doing my usual finger touch on the yolk to feel the temperature. I remember accidentally licking my finger :(
I go for scrambled eggs now :)
 
9:52 AM
Wait, what's wrong with that?
 
Wrong with licking ones finger with raw eggs? :) Nothing, unless there's something deadly in there :)
 
It wasn't raw, though. You were cooking it!
 
But the yolk was still very cold when I touched it.. so that part was certainly not cooked.
 
I see.
Well, using your finger when cooking is rather unsanitary anyway.
And the best way to cook eggs is to poach them.
 
I don't like them poached :(
 
10:03 AM
?!?
 
I take it you mean boiled without being in the shell.
 
Yes.
Although you don't actually have to boil it. You can cook it over boiling water.
What is there not to like?
You get perfectly solidified egg white, but soft, barely-firm yolk.
 
Yes.. not a fan of those. They get a strange rubber texture.
I like them boiled in the shell though, cut in half and put on rugbrød :)
 
Ah, soft-boiled?
I don't like them hard-boiled at all. The yolk should be soft, runny on the inside.
That runny yolk also helps to make rugbrød slightly palatable... ;-)
 
@CodyGray No. Never. Hard-boiled. After that night, I've never had runny yolk again.
 
10:13 AM
Gross.
Yolk is supposed to be runny!
You soft-boil them, and then you can take the rugbrød and dip it in inside the egg still in the half-shell.
 
Heh. Have you ever vomited so profusely that your vision was impaired to do not being able to breathe?
 
wat
ah, salmonella
 
In any case.. no food is worth that, for me :)
 
Vomiting shouldn't take that long
 
I was more open minded on the subject prior to my experience, though :)
 
10:24 AM
Also, petition your government to mandate Salmonella immunizations for your chickens!
Chickens need vaccinations, too!
Get them chicken anti-vaxxers up out of here.
 
It took about two hours total.. with being able to breathe in short bursts in just enough time to not pass out. But I did position myself so that if I passed out, I wouldn't fall on my back. I wanted to call for help through the entire time, but my phone was in another room and I was absolutely unable to speak, so I figured it was useless.
 
The good news is, you vomited whatever pathogen it was out of your system.
Which almost certainly kept you from being more sick later.
 
Yes. I think you're right. I was however very tired for two days after and I think I was only awake for about 8 out of the 48 hours.
 
I'm just surprised you had enough in you to keep that up for 2 hours.
 
And I took the experience as a warning: Do not eat undercooked eggs and stay away from soft yolk :)
 
10:29 AM
For all you know, it could have been the rugbrød
 
So was I.. I still do not understand how I didn't pass out.
Not likely. I had the same rugbrød later :) Not sure why though. I should probably have trashed it all.
I guess I was just convinced what it was.
 
Hahaha
Wouldn't it have been hilarious if it happened again after eating more of the rugbrød?
I literally laughed out loud the whole time it took me to type that.
I might be an evil person, but I insist that is a hilarious image.
 
That would have been a huge "note to self" :D
But there is no more salmonella in Danish poultry, they say.. but I do not think I will ever be inclined. It's just left a permanent mark on me, I suppose.
 
Note to self not to tell the story?
 
No :) Note to self to trash all the sources of the food I had :) I don't mind telling stories where I've been foolish.
Licking my finger with raw egg when everyone was told to properly cook everything poultry is foolish too, no?
 
10:36 AM
How long ago was this?
Have they started vaccinating hens since then?
 
At least 10 years ago.
 
Ah, I see
 
I don't know how they did it. I didn't keep up with what procedures they implemented.
 
@CodyGray yes
 
 
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4:35 PM
@rene for a moment I thought this was SOCVR and I was thoroughly confused...
 
5:28 PM
I can imagine that ;)
 
6:05 PM
Writes 2 lines of code. Gets distracted on SO for 30 minutes. Writes 5 more lines, mostly copy paste. Gets distracted again. Still putting off the next line I need to write.
succesfully focuses on 4 more lines. Comes back to SO.
I need a coding-related movie distraction. Something like Hackers or the Mr. Robot series. Any suggestions?
 
Why would coding-related things distract you less from coding?
 
It would distract me more, but it might motivate me.
 
NCIS? I heard McGee and Abby are savage with programming.
especially when they use the same keyboard
 
(no, don't watch it :P)
I mean it's an amusing series, I saw a few seasons when it was a bit fresher, but the tech details are not exactly soothing
 
6:22 PM
I may hunt down WarGames.
Or, no. Pick up where I stopped watching Silicon Valley
Finds a list of 21 programming movies. Sees "Office Space" on the list and chuckles.
meanwhile, spins up a VM to test my code changes.
 
7:04 PM
Finishes coding for the day, queues up The Imitation Game and grabs a beer.
 

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