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12:02 AM
@Shadow Re-hammered correctly
 
@Machavity @Tunaki want to get that? I don't have the script to move from transcript right now
 
@gunr2171 Fishing be slow today, yo
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
 
1 hour later…
1:14 AM
@QPaysTaxes Yeah, that's not a valid close reason. Just say it's OT and leave it at that. Only way that gets worse it to link LMGTFY
 
@QPaysTaxes What is BS?
Yes, the question is indeed BS.
The text of the CV is not the best, but the Q should eb closed defintively. OP does not even state why the "Unix stuff" (whatever that would be) does not work for him and there is no improvement.
@QPaysTaxes Yes, I got that.
@QPaysTaxes Alternative would be TB or unclear. Also "request for external resource", which - in consequence would lead to "use google". So the "other" reason is not that bad at all.
 
lalala
 
@hud. Thank you for your valuable participation.
Heck, why was that posting of mine flagged?? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/36080544#36080544
 
1:29 AM
@Olaf No idea
 
It offends me.
 
@QPaysTaxes Funny thing is: I had to validate the flag. ... strange.
@HovercraftFullOfEels Erm .. seriously: did you flag it??
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Sorry, I'm a bit thin-skinned about that subject :-)
 
Is OK. I'm offended that your offended. Let's all be offensive together.
 
1:32 AM
Ok, someone is trolling with flags
 
*you're
 
Olaf, I just got a flag on one of your posts.
Who is in the room???
 
@QPaysTaxes I thought that was your pet?
@4castle Apparently.
Whoever that is: you should understand that this will be registered. False flagging will at some point trigger a mod.
@HovercraftFullOfEels I only see one unfamiliar name ...
 
@Olaf: who? Hud?
 
Yes. Pardon me if I'm wrong.
 
1:37 AM
This room never ceases to amaze me. It's like I should get some pop corn site back and watch the fireworks. (And no I also had nothing to do with the flag. Just want to get that out of the way one time.)
:)
Keep Calm and SOCVR on
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm offended that you're offended that he was offended.
So now I get flagged for that? lol
 
Should I kindle the flames?
 
lol
I'll just keep quiet and lurk next time.
 
Why would you do that? Flags aren't our daily bread.
 
@Nkosi It is not that funny actually, I just got some "friendly" message. @JanDvorak: If you be so kind.
 
@Olaf I was referring to he general back and forth of the chat room. was not singling any one thing or person out
 
1:46 AM
?
 
@JanDvorak I'm just as lost
 
@Nkosi Well, I'm fine to get a message if I indeed might use a bit to clear a language. But not for harmless postings.
@JanDvorak If you be so kind. - is that more clear?
 
2:01 AM
Not as M as I'd like but noted, thanks.
 
i'm out. see you all on the flip side
o/
 
3:07 AM
Wow look at that fancy bot.
Does it pick it up from dupe flags? Or does it do some kind of text analysis?
 
@JasonC @Queen already reported that?
 
@JasonC IIRC it looks for "possible duplicate" comments
 
@πάνταῥεῖ We already covered that?
Neat. It must've picked up the second dupe flag.
 
@JasonC I decided not to hammer the question.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ And also I wasn't in here when it did.
Lol
Who maintains Zephyr?
 
Thanks
 
What even is Zephyr?
 
It monitors vote requests and dumps them in chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/773/low-quality-posts-hq
 
Oh. What's that good for?
 
Is socvr.org down for anybody else
@JanDvorak It sort of gathers requests from all over the place (not just here in SOCVR) and sticks them in one place. I usually lurk in there when I feel like spending close votes.
 
3:27 AM
yes
 
@JasonC Yes, it's probably having to do with this.
 
@4castle Oh right. The big old pinned message on the side.
Damn. And I actually need a FAQ link for a bug report, lol.
 
Aw and it's not in archive.org.
When you guys post a dupe cv request that also includes the dupe link how do you format it?
dupe-link post-link?
Or the other way around?
 
@JasonC The userscript which auto-generates the cp-pls doesn't link to the dupe target, but when people do it the dupe target is the second link.
 
Update failed!
Update failed!
 
3:48 AM
A user I previously custom flagged as spamming a product "moonmail" via invalid tag wiki edits have resurfaced. Example: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/15173777
Currently SD doesn't monitor tag wiki edits right?
 
to monitor edits there are other bots.
 
@JasonC The SOCVR FAQ is located here. I already requested that the room blurb have links to the GitHub version during the outage, but it doesn't look like anyone is interested in doing so. FYI: The outage is guessed to be about a week.
 
Thanks
 
Off-topic(General Computing) Python 2.x series, theano installation?
 
@JasonC When it is back up, I'll have to look at what it is gathering. I was only aware of [this search](chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=tagged%2Fcv-pls&Room=41570&page=1&pagesi‌​ze=50&sort=newest) augmented by this user script.
@Tushar Please include a [tag:cv-pls] in close requests. The scripts rely on it to find requests.
 
4:03 AM
@Makyen I was asking. Wasn't sure about it.
 
@Makyen Zephyr grabs them from all over the place; most come from here (because here is where most are made) but if you scroll up through chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/773/low-quality-posts-hq you'll see other sources.
 
@Tushar You mean I should have been able to figure that out by that perfectly visible ?, that I totally missed? :-)
 
do we have a dupe link for "include jQuery before any libraries that use it, not after"?
 
I'll add 3 question marks next time. :)
 
@JanDvorak this?
 
lemme try
 
@JasonC Thanks for the info. I'm working on a couple scripts, which I'll want to make sure are compatible with those and/or have special cases for those rooms.
 
@Queen I love you
 
Get a room... oh wait
 
4:14 AM
@queen Alive?
 
Sure thing buzzing around
 
@queen I love you honey
Seems there were modifications for @Queens auto response :-D
 
@Makyen fyi, my mod flag was marked helpful and the post was deleted
 
@AshishAhuja Good to hear. I think that is the reasonable course of action, but you never know. At the moment, I guess my outlook is a bit colored by still having on my mind that I need to post a meta question regarding a couple of declines I got on flags for plagiarism.
 
5:07 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ You gotta get your dupe hammer confidence back!
 
@JasonC I'm not hammering every proposal :-P
 
 
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7:58 AM
any germans here is this offensive? stackoverflow.com/a/42758521/5292302
 
@PetterFriberg yes it is
not German
 
waffle
@tripleee google told me german but the translation made no sense...
 
@PetterFriberg I mean I'm not German, the text certainly is
"you all are sons of wh*s"
 
(removed)
 
8:16 AM
Morning \o
 
@Mikhail No one box please!
 
sorry
 
8:57 AM
socvr.org is down? :o
 
10:29 AM
o/
new day. same SOCVR. :)
 
\o
 
o/
 
Plop everyone!
@Nkosi We're always the same except when we constantly change
 
@Kyll as they say (somewhere). the only constant is change. lol
 
@Nkosi Panta Rei =)
(cc @πάνταῥεῖ because you were the one to make me discover that)
 
10:37 AM
that is deep. lol
 
11:13 AM
Would this answer copied from here be considered plagiarism even though they stated where they got it?
Or should I just duphammer it
 
11:26 AM
@Nkosi flag it for mod it should be deleted, I left a comment on it.
it's also missing the correct attribution part
it should have quoted the code, link and name of author.
 
@PetterFriberg Noted. Thanks.
 
@Nkosi I have not flagged, you will have to do that, something like "Copied answer from other question, here ...", I would not add the word plagiarsim... They can just delete it.
 
@PetterFriberg flagged it. Will see where it goes from there.
 
to the bin ; ), then now if it's really a dupe you can close it to... :D
 
Monring
 
11:35 AM
\o
Moonring
 
Mooing
 
@NathanOliver o/ Good morning to you too
 
@NathanOliver moɿninǫ
 
12:01 PM
Ha.
> Surely there is a std function that can do this 'neatly'? (and I'll call you Shirely if I want to).
 
12:42 PM
unclear
 
user3956566
By your questions combined, I am Captain Dupehammer! — Machavity 2 mins ago
 
1:36 PM
> It would be a delight to burninate this tag
That pun was brilliant
 
user3956566
@TylerH ? where
 
on the burnination meta question
 
user3956566
It took me a total reinstall of windows to be able to successfully run a powershell script to deploy some code. Man...
 
user3956566
@TylerH it should read it would be a D light to burninate this tag :D
 
JAL
o/
 
user3956566
1:44 PM
\o
 
user3956566
^^ actually do you think that's a fair call?
 
@YvetteColomb but 'delight' can be read as 'de-light' as in to remove the light
which, in context, is the brilliant bit
 
Sam
Morning!
 
Sam is here!
 
user3956566
@TylerH ah of course! yes brilliant as in the brilliance of shining light ;)
 
1:46 PM
@YvetteColomb seems a bit broad of a question to me but I don't know the applications so meh
 
user3956566
@Sam hey :D
 
morning!
 
Hi Sam
 
user3956566
@TylerH I didn't realise the question was in the actual title, so when i read the body couldn't see the question
 
@Sam any news on the transfer?
 
1:47 PM
Hiya guys
 
Sam
Hiya
@gunr2171 Nope
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver hey \o
 
darn
 
o/ everyone
 
Sam
socvr.org is still down? Yep.
 
user3956566
1:47 PM
what transfer?
 
user3956566
@AshishAhuja oi \o
 
yesterday, by gunr2171
We're doing a domain transfer of socvr.org. There might be some interruptions with the services running on it.
 
user3956566
ahh of course
 
@Sam do you want to switch the nameservers until your service provider lets it go?
 
Sam
May as well I guess
 
1:48 PM
We should host all the bots on the socvr.org server so that when skynet happens we can kill them all by doing a domain transfer
 
user3956566
Now we just need someone with enough points in the tag to suggest the synonym lol — Yvette Colomb 5 secs ago
 
Sam
Nameservers updated.
 
@Samey \o
 
Sam
:) o/
 
user3956566
@Floern I don't (usually) mind those sort of questions, except it's like asking, what's the difference between an apple and a loaf of bread
 
1:52 PM
Thank you to all the bot owners for filling out the survey that's been pinned the last week. Below are the results. These will help determine areas we'd need to cover if/when this unifying framework project is discussed further.
	Bot Census:

	 - Form filled out for 12 bots
	 - 9 Bots run under a dedicated account for the bot
	 - 10 bots require a reputation level of 20 (chat privileges), 2 require 50 (flagging privileges)
	 - Areas of SO the bots watch (with different activities performed in each):
	   - Questions
	   - Close Vote Reviews
	   - Comments
	   - Answers
	   - Chatroom
	   - Badges
 
If it gets us closer to an official chat API, I'm happy to help
 
user3956566
@Andy I should've filled it out, But I never finished my bot :'(
 
@Andy should I ping you if I make a bot of my own?
 
user3956566
I'm always chasing my tail, just reduced my uni workload. working, studying, single parent. not enough time for my poor bot :/
 
@JanDvorak It's up to you. The goal for this survey was to get an idea of what areas of SO/SE the bots are currently watching. I don't have any details on the framework right now. I suspect it's still just a spark in someone's head
 
Sam
1:59 PM
I need some volunteers who (semi-)actively review the CV queue. You'll get waffles.
 
sup
 
Sam
I need to debug Clo's tracking library over a period of several days, would you mind me adding you to the watch list?
You won't get pinged by the bot.
 
user3956566
@Sam you can add me
 
user3956566
if it just takes some daily reviewing yes?
 
Sam
Yeah
You don't need to do the full 40
 
user3956566
2:04 PM
yeh add me
 
Sam
Ok, thanks :)
 
user3956566
I'm here everyday
 
user3956566
yw :)
 
@Sam you can add me
 
Sam
Woot
2 people should do it.
Thanks
 
2:18 PM
so it looks like socvr.org is back, but does anyone else get ssl errors (where it should not have https)
 
I'm still getting a DNS error of socvr.org.
 
I'm getting dns errors for chat.socvr.org, the root is ok for me
 
@gunr2171 oh nice, I didn't know there was a chat for RO's on the website itself
 
Sam
chat.socvr.org is fine for me
 
Sam
2:23 PM
blame caching I guess
 
@AshishAhuja we moved away from slack because we need to be able to search back more than 10,000 messages
@Sam internet propagation sucks
 
Sam
Yeah
 
None of it is working for me yet.
 
sam do you get ssl errors on the root?
 
@gunr2171 ah. Never used Slack
@gunr2171 I don't seem to get ssl errors on both the chat site and socvr.org
 
2:25 PM
ok, then it's definitely a propagation problem
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Let me check
Wait, I thought we couldn't get ssl for the main site to work.
Chat is fine again, btw.
 
right, it's forcing me to use https
even though it should not use https
 
@gunr2171 try Ryver
 
Sam
weird
 
@gunr2171 I thought it should use https?
 
2:29 PM
the root domain does not right now. It's a problem with github custom domains
 
uh yeah. Putting 'https' in the top bar leads to an insecure connection on the main domain.
afk
 
3:16 PM
There's too many, it would have to specify the whole language structure
I see a lot of them, some array access, some dangling ;, some dangling (), some method invocation in class bodies, etc. etc.
 
user4639281
3:44 PM
TIL that tag wiki pages are stored in the posts table
 
interesting
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Leads to a tag wiki
 
user4639281
(empty, but you get the idea)
 
@TinyGiant Yeah everything is a post
 
user4639281
3:51 PM
TIL that deleted tag wikis still exist in the posts table
 
with a different PostTypeId
 
user4639281
I'm gonna guess that was the unicorn tag
 
@EdChum @Tushar @BaummitAugen Do you care if I ask Meta about this?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis sure, looking at it again it could probably be shorter and almost looks like it's more suitable for codereview
 
user4639281
3:55 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis It looks like if it was narrowed down to some form of "Why would this mean anything different to a compiler than what is shown above? Isn't void accept(P p) supposed to act the same as <Q extends P> void accept(Q q)?" (extracted from comment) it would be a decent question
 
user4639281
But that would be better asked as a different question
 
Do you think we should edit out the wild claims of undefined behavior like it will kill your cat or format your hard drive?
 
nah, let's leave them that bit of fun
 
@TinyGiant I'm pretty sure such a question has been asked before.
 
4:49 PM
@FOX9000 That is offensive
 
@NathanOliver challenge accepted! IP check coming up I hope
 
@Adriaan Such random drivel too... Disappointing.
"good luck boi" => "Good luck, Boy!"
 
@NathanOliver the editor wants to have us find out who he is :P
 
Ah
@JarrodRoberson went with unclear
 
4:59 PM
@FOX9000 Silly kid, don't they realise you are never truly anonymous on the internet.
 
user177800
@NathanOliver a close vote is a close vote ...
 
Is the guidance at the end of You Tubes Api Resources page enough to prevent off-topic question coming in?
 
I tend to think so
They have a pretty prominent button for support-type questions right next to it
That tag has a rather impressive close rate, too. Only 7.5%, including deleted
 
OK
 
Compare to PHP, at 15.6%
 
5:14 PM
Hello!
 
yo!
 
stackoverflow.com/q/42742207/3933332 8 close votes :P I wonder how many it takes to close it or if it can't be closed?
 
@Rizier123 wait wat?
 
Hiya Nobody
Wow. I wonder if it is counting close votes from SU.
 
maybe. those votes should be to migrate though
or more accurately, >=3
 
5:20 PM
it took 5 to close it b4 it was migrated. according to timeline
 
TO THE META
 
@NathanOliver You're too slow: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/345362/3933332
 
@FireAlarm there's got to be and duplicate for that
 
@NathanOliver Take a screenshot from the close vote count before it overflows :P
 
Can't :( refreshed and it's locked now so it does not show the close votes.
 
Woot
 
@gunr2171 At 13 now.
 
How many developers do you need to convince to help break your system?
None, they do that automatically.
 
@gunr2171 ooohhhh sure .. and I didn't CV because I didn't want to screw it up any further ...
 
5:32 PM
"Screwing it up further" is the motto of engineers
 
I did because I want to see how broken we could get it
 
Locked. I wanted to downvote it :(
 
@QPaysTaxes I closed that one as a dupe. Don't bother posting bugs, it takes 6 o 8 years to get that fixed
sure, but the mobile team is serious under-staffed.
Technically yes ... :(
 
5:52 PM
plops into the chat
Halp, it is a snowstorm!
 
Same here
Had 3 inches of snow on my car this morning
 
its coming tonight
 
You on the east coast?
 
yes
 
5:55 PM
@Compass HR already told us to work from home tomorrow
 
Ouch. I saw some places that are calling for 20+ inches of snow
We are only expected to get about 6
 
i will work from home
and also release my dog into the backyard
so he can clean his stinky self
 
> Accumulations: Snow accumulation of 14 to 18 inches. Winds: North 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph.
afk meeting
 
Couple years back when we had the blizzard our one dog was too short to walk through the snow. She had to follow in our other dogs tracks.
 
mobile development is like... a niche level
my page works in mobile
but i dont gear it for that
 
user4639281
5:57 PM
Stack Overflow is like... sllloooowwww
 
data transfer speed or rate of questions?
 

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