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12:01 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ You can burninate the tag... as long as you write the post in Node.js with a Cassandra backend :P
 
@Braiam To some degree I can understand why germans aren't perceived that well in Dom Rep. But what you'll see is only a small percentage, and I have to admit people like me are actually rare,
 
@πάνταῥεῖ was a joke, and I actually like Germans
 
@Machavity Sure, I could try that hopelessly. Pls excuse I don't take PHP for a serious programming language. I had my experiences regarding Joomla, but that's a different story.
@Braiam No one likes Germans, not even me (I'm bavarian actually) C'mon!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Please don't judge it on Joomla. Or Wordpress. But I get the "PHP is awful" a lot
 
user4639281
PHP is aweful, not because of joomla or wordpress, but because PHP is aweful. I'm sure if joomla and wordpress were written for node they would be much better
 
user4639281
12:08 AM
Probably not, but one could hope
 
Most people knock it for major flaws that have been fixed for year. Like register globals (which was really, really bad but been gone for 5+ years)
 
@Machavity PHP actually is awful. Not there are no ways to handle that, but it's still awful.
 
user4639281
@Machavity yeah, but the whole object oriented part of it is just like a bolt on turbo kit for a ricer, horrible
 
@Machavity You've gotta consume at least a double to triple ration of weed and whiskey to bear it. That doesn't sound healthy.
 
> PHP: encouraging to shoot yourself in the foot since '95.
I remember writing something along the lines
 
12:11 AM
like I said, PHP has come a long way since then, but people still remember the bad stuff
 
@Machavity Is there anything better with the latest "improvements"?
@Machavity It was burned in our brains: Stay away from PHP!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ PHP 7 was a major milestone actually. The SO PHP room was very instrumental in getting the ability to switch to strict type hinting
And we know how bad it's been. We can still laugh at ourselves
 
@Machavity "type hinting" that sounds really cute vs having type safety and strict type requirements.
 
for the title I thought this was relevant... it wasn't, but still funny commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/18/open-closed-reopen-repeat
 
@Machavity The good thing to know, is that we even have field experts like you right now. I never wanted to diminish you in any way.
!^ You just have to bear all of my sarcasm.
 
12:20 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Let me put it like this. PHP RFCs typically get maybe 20-30 votes. Might see a rare one reach 40. Type hinting prompted 4 separate RFCs and the version that went into PHP7 had 150 votes. With a 2/3 required. And it got it on the nose
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ strict typing is for amateurs, Array(16).join("lol" - 2) + " Batman!";
 
@TinyGiant "Duck Typing" doesn't really help more than duct tape does (pun intended)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I appreciate the comments :)
 
@Machavity I appreciate your existence!
:)
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ so... very useful? Duct tape is awesome
 
12:35 AM
@Machavity Hard not to when it's posted to Stack Overflow all day.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Post a PHP question, get a free tutorial in not using the ext/mysql functions, not using MD5 to hash your passwords, and/or SQL injection
 
@TinyGiant You can even fix your tank shackles with duct tape of course, it's awesome material. But believe me: Nothing beats talking to your rubber duck when it needs a problem to be solved.
 
@TinyGiant I bought an older house recently. I knew the AC had been serviced by amateurs because they used duct tape everywhere on the ductwork. Duct tape is not for duct work ironically. But it's cheaper than foil tape
 
@Machavity "I knew the AC had been serviced by amateurs ..." What about turning on the DC then?
@Machavity Regarding PHP and SQL: xkcd.com/327
 
12:52 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Yep bobby-tables.com
 
I'm pretty sure you know these kinda complaints ;)
 
1:13 AM
Rhetorical question: Am I badass enough?I still have the feeling being too nice.
@SmokeDetector naa
 
@πάνταῥεῖ eh? that was spam... "egypt ladies"
 
@Braiam Yeah, the link in the end. Wasn't obvious spam.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ that falls in the same category of dark magic and babaji
 
@Braiam It's going to b deleted, so what?. I'm not afraid of curses!
 
I'm just noting the most efficient way
 
1:33 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ The "Egypt Ladies" made me spam it
Also, that looks like classic SEO spam. Put a ton of gibberish keywords with a link
 
@Machavity I probably reacted the wrong way.
 
I don't expect everyone to recognize SEO spam. Used to deal with it a LOT when I had to do our site marketing (in addition to coding)
 
@Machavity that's like trying to go against the three laws of thermodynamics
 
Well, delete works too :P
 
@Machavity Later, yes.
 
user557846
1:42 AM
@Machavity do you play tf2 regularly?
 
@Dagon Not so much anymore, but I played with Kyll, Nathan and Gunr the other night. Was a nice change
game has changed a ton to emulate CSGO matches tho. Not sure I like that
 
user557846
the new casual is ok, the new competitive is not great on this side of the planet.
 
been playing some Heroes of the Storm. Shorter and less intensive than DOTA
 
2:27 AM
@Tyler @Mag @Braiam My meta Q about that Node.JS thing got resolved - meta.stackoverflow.com/a/332716/4174897
@Braiam Meh on the shoot first, talk later strategy =p
 
@Kyll the worst way around...
 
@Seth Heh, yeah
@Braiam It's what the community is in favour with
 
@Kyll it doesn't mean that it doesn't have consequences... and reinforces a bad precedent
 
@JonClements dis iz vry tru
 
I miss whenever I could make a good argument to deleting those kind of questions meta.stackoverflow.com/q/315458/792066
 
2:43 AM
@JarrodRoberson Active a year ago? Meh
 
user3956566
3:30 AM
@JarrodRoberson if you are feeling generous, you can also pop in here chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/120759/godaddy-burnination
 
4:31 AM
@JarrodRoberson I've got delete candidates if you're up for it: gist.github.com/sotodel/6e2cff0c4f67ffa03a6f480a6be70db0
 
@rene maybe clarify whether optional info is tolerated? some people have user scripts which add tags, user id link, when the question was posted, etc to the formatting
@undo don't want to expose my email, but a gist or pastebin would be much appreciated (and easy to link for others who are interested, even if I can keep it private if you like)
 
5:26 AM
hey all
 
6:08 AM
@TinyGiant - Howdy there. Long time no see
 
hey @TheLostMind
 
\o @ColdFire . How goes the day?
 
@TheLostMind nice wbu?
 
Its going well
 
user4639281
@TheLostMind yeah has been a while, how goes the mod life?
 
6:22 AM
@TinyGiant - Its going well.. :)
 
user4639281
That's good
 
6:51 AM
^ And this is why those @mentions are pointless. Unless you mention everyone that's currently active in the room.
 
Yah
btw morning cerb
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed a audit!
Magisch passed a audit!
 
@Cerbrus also it fills up your supercollider inbox with mostly deleted messages
but I can opt out if I want to
but it would be nice if there was a way to hear the "pling" but not have your inbox flooded
 
7:07 AM
Please don't forget to use some of your close votes on ... keep them coming. Or visit the coordination room.
7
 
@Magisch You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 9 minutes and 24 seconds, averaging to a review every 14 seconds.
 
@rene I burned my 40 reviews for the last 3 days on
 
@Magisch yeah \o/, I spend 15 out of the queue and 20 in the queue
 
Why did I receive a notification that a doc change has been proposed, and why did I get an error message ("Working on ur problemz") when clicking it? >:(
 
user4639281
How's it going @rene?
 
7:10 AM
@TinyGiant we dropped the number of open questions below 900 so I would say, it goes well: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/331817/…
 
user4639281
Nice
 
I'll keep burning my daily 40 reviews on it until there aren't enough to review left
 
user4639281
I'm heading to bed, will pop in again soon
 
See you soon ,sleep well
assuming you go to bed to sleep ...
 
7:20 AM
@tripleee Just one person unsubscribing is pretty pointless.
 
@Cerbrus yeah, just saying I know there is a workaround for getting the inbox filled with smoke
 
But to prove my point even further: @PraveenKumar @AndrasDeak @πάνταῥεῖ @FrankerZ @dorukayhan: Please respond ASAP! Just a "Hey, I'm alive!" will do.
 
some of the other bots will check whether you are in the room before pinging you IIRC
 
Morning
 
@Cerbrus your point being ...? They opted in, that doesn't mean they are compelled to answer every ping
and many people will not want to be pinged even if they are active in the room, so opt-in is a good solution here, though it might be useful to tweak it further
 
7:23 AM
My point is that it's noise that really isn't necessary.
 
I appreciate the noise when I am in a different window, and will often switch back here just to flag spam
 
The idea behind those notifications is that the report is responded to quickly.
 
if chat had a watch facility, that would of course be much better
 
Obviously, in this case, those notifications have no added value.
 
I've stated why I disagree; do we need to continue?
 
7:25 AM
hey triplee
do you use chrome or firefox or something else?
 
@Magisch firefox right now but it depends a lot
 
hiya @trip @cerb @mag \o
 
@tripleee cause there's a charcoal chrome extension that'll ping you for reports
 
@Magisch sounds interesting - maybe I could try it out at some point
 
@Magisch We should make that mandatory for users that want notifications like that.
Not spam, just a link-only answer.
 
7:28 AM
I'm using that to get pings at home where I have chrome
 
Request to filter those notifications on user activity. (Only notify if active in the last ~hour, for example)
 
@Cerbrus makes sense
 
What a rude person.
 
Oh, it's wingding again
 
@Cerbrus we are advised to not pay attention to the troll
 
7:41 AM
Hey, who flagged that?
That's not spam or rude. Don't flag messages like that -.-
 
@Cerbrus me, because of ^
 
False flag. It's not spam, it's not rude.
 
Did you seriously just flag his chat message? o.ô
 
would you consider just deleting it?
 
In other words: don 't flag to enforce room rules.
 
7:42 AM
^
Don't flag falsely to enforce room rules.
 
okay, sorry about that
 
Or you could just inform me of the guideline, and I'll say: "Oh, sure, won't happen again".
 
user3956566
@PraveenKumar @AndrasDeak @πάνταῥεῖ @FrankerZ @tripleee @dorukayhan do you all really need to receive notifications? This room has plenty of people in it. If you're not in chat, then perhaps it's not a good idea to be getting notifications. besides there's also a chrome extensions
 
@Yvette All teh pingz
 
user3956566
@Seth hehe
 
7:45 AM
@Yvette I already pinged them before. Onlt tripleee responded, so far.
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus hey they can't complain about being pinged ;)
 
googling for it now, drawing a blank so far, could you please link to the Charcoal Chrome extension for the benefit of those who were recently pinged?
 
user3956566
@rene can you ROs have a clamp down on people getting smoke detector pings, if they're not in the room, what makes them think they will get their notification on the site any quicker than people in the room? it often takes 15 mins for my chat notifications to appear on the site.
 
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
7:48 AM
@tripleee I will no longer ping you if I report a post on stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector gah, forgot the minus!
sorry about that
 
Shame :p I do not even know what the minus would've changed
 
user3956566
@tripleee You are too nice ;)
 
Is this OT as not programming related?
 
user3956566
@Seth the - at the end prevents SD giving feedback
 
user3956566
7:49 AM
so less noise, not vital
 
Ahh I see
We need a ninja puppy here.
 
user3956566
to the next mod we have a wingding on the site stackoverflow.com/users/6733830/wingding?tab=topactivity
 
@Yvette: Sssshhhh, you can't discuss the user or someone will flag your chat message.
 
user3956566
ah yeh the p word in the suggested edits.
 
@Yvette another batch of godaddy?
 
user3956566
7:53 AM
yep
 
user3956566
all go d
 
i need batch
 
user3956566
ah I'll get you one in godaddy sorry
 
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind please see wingding user linked above, suggesting crude edits
 
7:57 AM
Ahahaha, Yvette called for that :p
 
@Seth agreed
 
and the chrome ping works
spooky sound tho
 
user3956566
@Seth Ikr
 
user3956566
@tripleee you can change the sound
 
@Yvette yeah, just didn't find a way to ... uh, preview? pre-listen
 
7:59 AM
@tripleee Isn't it preview for sounds, too? :D
 
@Yvette Actually, there's 2 of'm already.
 
user3956566
@tripleee extensions, then options under that one
 
user3956566
I am trialling pumpkin
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus yeh I jsut saw
 
And now they're both gone
 
8:00 AM
@Cerbrus Both what o.o
 
@Yvette yeah I mean I found the dropdown, but couldn't tell from the names alone what they sound like
 
Morning @PetterFriberg
 
user3956566
@tripleee oh me neither
 
Aloha
 
user3956566
I have my speakers on 1, I hate loud alerts
 
user3956566
8:00 AM
hola \o
 
@Yvette Like pings?
Plop!
 
@Seth users
 
@Cerbrus Nice :]
 
user3956566
@Kyll yeh like pings from rodents wearing human clothes.. yeh that one >:{
 
user3956566
;)
 
8:01 AM
@Cerbrus the one which must not be mentioned routinely creates a new account with the same user name
 
@DenysSéguret Use the Reason Link scheme please :p
 
user3956566
cerbrus has the word user in his username
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret we have a close vote script @Seth will get you the link ;)
 
@tripleee I didn't think that required mentioning.
 
what do I do wrong again ? I'm new here and I don't see how all this works...
 
user3956566
8:02 AM
@tripleee he who shall not be named
 
And please, stop telling me how this room works.
 
@DenysSéguret [tag:cv-pls]
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret nothing, we have a script that makes your life easier and a word to the wise, you'll get kicked in here if you swear
 
@tripleee doesn't that look like what I typed ?
 
8:03 AM
@DenysSéguret Here is a link :)
 
@Cerbrus you seemed to indicate surprise that there are two of them, sorry if I misunderstood that
 
Actually, that userscript is pretty neat, @DenysSéguret.
@tripleee Not surprise, just stating fact. I know he's a regular spammer.
 
@DenysSéguret Install greasemonkey (add-on), create a new userscript & go ham :]
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret no gaps ;)
 
@DenysSéguret looks like it, but somehow yours wasn't formatted correctly ... non-ASCII characters in yours?
 
8:04 AM
@tripleee It's a multiline chat message.
Those don't get formatted
[tag:example]
 
@Cerbrus /me sees
 
I always forget how shitty the formater is ^^
 
@Cerbrus It's a bug feature to avoid being noisy in chat.
 
(double flag ? yes ? no ?)
 
And we really shouldn't flag that.
 
8:05 AM
@DenysSéguret (everyone kinda agrees on that - the chat formatter is bad and outdated)
 
@DenysSéguret Presumably, say fuck was what you did wrong, judging by the flags on your message :|
 
but I guess the script will see the message as it is now
 
Heya @BoltClock
 
Oh crap, a mod! Hide! *Stands behind a tree*
 
Plop BoltClock!
 
8:06 AM
Hides
 
@BoltClock I guess so. Sorry for that one.
 
goes back to pretending to be working
 
@DenysSéguret (I have no idea the context behind it)
 
@BoltClock just profanity. Context doesn't really matter. I shouldn't have.
 
@BoltClock he was struggling to get [tag:cv-pls] to work
 
8:07 AM
@BoltClock it is just a slip ... can you dismiss the flag?
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret use the script, you can post a request from the actual question, much easier
 
@DenysSéguret yes, we try to keep it a bit more professional here. The profanity can be done in other rooms ;)
 
user3956566
well this room regularly comes under focus on meta
 
Am I allowed to use "Sapristi!" ?
 
user3956566
what is that?
 
8:09 AM
@rene Remember the thread about that one room, where TLM had to actually freeze it? :p
 
We're not humans in here. We are flagbots. We never swear.
$0.02
 
@Cerbrus and I agree with that also. So please, @all, don't be flag happy, just talk to each other ... much better learning experience ....
 
@Seth - Erm. That ain't gonna happen here. The ROs here are too sensitive to profanity :)
 
> The ROs here are too sensitive to profanity :)
That.
 
I agree with @rene, I don't think there was any need to flag that
 
8:11 AM
@TheLostMind Indeed c: But it's still funny how different the "culture" of different chat rooms can be.
 
If I may, just my opinion: I think the ROs in here are too careful in general.
 
@Seth You used the c word
 
Note to self: never say "culture".
 
@BoltClock Oh darn :( Waves goodbye to all
 
Oh crap... I just did.
 
user3956566
8:12 AM
@BoltClock at least it wasn't C - ommitment
 
OOh. Another c word
 
I'll use a giant C ....
 
C-Combo ;o
 
user3956566
I love both c words
 
I don't like C :(
 
user3956566
8:13 AM
C and C++
 
What about C#?
 
user3956566
hehe saved by the basic naming of programming languages
 
That escalated quickly
 
user3956566
I actualy program in c# every day
 
@Cerbrus Seeing sharp is very important.
 
user3956566
@Seth lol too funny
 
Otherwhise you won't be able to spot rene, as everything will be blurry.
 
*Highfives @Yvette*
 
And if you do not see the flower in time...
 
@DenysSéguret actually ^
 
user3956566
8:14 AM
@Cerbrus yo bro!
 
@Seth - BTW I don't know too much about that post (you asked me to look into as not-reproducible) to close it
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret if you are still here, and are willing to become a slave, erm helper, you can always run some close votes on the godaddy tag ;)
 
user3956566
and delete votes!! hint @the
 
Yes. That too
:P
 
@TheLostMind Which post? c: This or that?
@TheLostMind Btw, that "-" that you put between @name and the message should be a feature.
 
user3956566
8:16 AM
started my campaign to remove @Kyll from charcoal ;) at least until he has a bath
 
@Yvette Did he take a mud bath again?
 
@Seth - The latter
 
I'm taking a coal bath right now. Might spontaneously catch fire.
 
user3956566
@Seth who nose where that stench comes from.. but all I know is he's fun to toss
 
user3956566
you C what I did there with the nose ^^ ?
 
8:17 AM
@Yvette Yes we did see that and didn't point it out of respect for good taste and humour.
=p
 
that awkward moment when you have to explicitly repeat the joke :P
 
user3956566
lolol hey my kids tell me I am just not funny. You can't touch this... music
 
Hammertime!
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind now you, go and delete godaddy's as penance (recovering catholic here)
 
12 mins ago, by tripleee
goes back to pretending to be working
 
8:19 AM
@TheLostMind He's good at pretending ô.ô
 
@Yvette Already did some the other day
 
@Seth confesses
 
user3956566
@DenysSéguret ah thank you!
 
@tripleee Plays Foo fighters - the pretender
... :-}
 
@Yvette the only thing that will benefit them is the ping sound when they are mentioned. In that case they won't have to keep on eye on the transcript. I might build an userscript to achieve that functionality. Maybe Smokey is the only friend they have, to keep that happy feeling of inbox messages, no? ;)
 
8:20 AM
@Seth brings up his Pretenders playlist
 
@tripleee I like that :D
 
user3956566
@rene so sad no?
 
user3956566
ok I gotta go do some work
 
@rene The Chrome plugin works as well, for that. With the added advantage of it not bothering other users.
 
@Yvette who owns that plugin? I guess it is Ok if I link to it from our FAQ?
 
user3956566
8:22 AM
@zaq from charcoal
 
OK, great
 
user3956566
I'd say so, I'll ping in there for that
 
user3956566
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 8 secs ago, by Yvette
@zaq your chrome extension is popular is it ok to pin it in the faq of scovr?
 
@tripleee Me cannot click that :( Me at work.
 
8:44 AM
@Yvette - I've gone through batch 5 of go-daddy questions. Closed a handful and deleted a few I deemed useless. I am not a big fan of deleting upvoted posts. Feel free to CV / DV them as needed
 
user3956566
8:56 AM
@TheLostMind thanks, it's really appreciated ;)
 
@Yvette - Your appreciation is appreciated
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind your appreciation of my app... ah forget it ;)
 
forget it ==> I am already running low on swap space in my brain :)
 
user3956566
ditto ;)
 
user3956566
too many sql joins
 

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