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@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Really? Somehow that sounds wrong. As a contributor you explicitly deny liability. It makes no sense for your employer to be liable for anything.
well, it's probably mostly paranoia from corporate, see the next messages
@Dev-iL Streamlit is neat, but this behavior is really weird. Some projects just don’t want to accept outside work, I guess?
the training is through glasses tainted with "contributing on company time", which to corporate implies "on behalf of company"
 
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01:38
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Yeah, but the contribution is made under the same license as the project itself, which means that the contributor (ie your employer) is not responsible for the code.
I mean, the Apache license explicitly rejects any responsibility regarding what others do with the code, and any liability if the code fails to do as advertised.
 
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04:23
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Hmm ok, I shall talk to legal about that (again) just in case. Worst case, I contribute under my own name...
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні I see you found it...
05:20
@AnderBiguri Aww, that's nice of you :) Shouldn't I know something about the subject first, though?
 
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07:48
@CrisLuengo I'll try to look up my notes about the training
 
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14:18
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Please do. I just re-read the license text, and don’t see anything wonky in there making contributors liable for the project as a whole.
It is totally normal, at least in western countries, that the actions of an employee during work hours are the responsibility of the employer. As an employee, you are a representative of the company.
Say, an employee of the electric company comes by to fix the meter, and when they leave, you have no electricity at all. You sue the company, not the person. The company is liable for your damages. Internally the company can solve the issue with their employee’s malpractice.
So you submitting a contribution to a project during work hours means that your company submitted that contribution. But that doesn’t mean your company somehow becomes involved in the project other than having made a contribution. And there’s nothing different about that contribution if it had been made by an unemployed person.
I’m curious to see how those paranoid lawyers got to that conclusion!
14:50
The only differences, legally, between Berkeley or MIT licenses, and Apache, are that Apache specifies contributions are made under the same license, that if using the software means that you infringe on a patent, the authors of the software cannot sue you, and that if you sue the authors of the software you no longer can use the software freely.
So for (2), make sure the project doesn’t infringe on any of your company’s patents before contributing. And (3) is actually nice for your employer…
 
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18:51
@Dev-iL yes yes, I was mostly joking :D probably not easy to make a PR

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