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8:00 AM
Haha, I finally was able to download my NASA data; it happens to contain a file in the main folder called "error.txt", which has zero contents :P
 
this means there were no errors, right?... right??
 
3640 items, totalling 466.9kB...
I guess something went wrong extracting the contents
If the server tells me "/usr/local/content/data/insight-ifg-mars/document/InSight_IFG_Data_Calibration_Deion Directory or file does not exist", that's not good, right?
 
hm, probably not
 
> cannot find zipfile directory in one of insight-ifg-mars.zip or insight-ifg-mars.zip.zip, and cannot find insight-ifg-mars.zip.ZIP, period.
That last word makes me ... wary
 
haha
 
8:20 AM
First download of said archive: 2.1GB. Second try: 2.8 GB. Third try: 3.2GB and counting.
This is exciting
 
8:34 AM
@Adriaan it must converge to about 3.7345GB
 
Got 5.9GB now, and it seems to be extracting correctly this time.
 
9:03 AM
> Sixteen of the other 26 EU states released a statement on Wednesday expressing concern over the Hungarian measures – but it did not actually include the word “Hungary”.

> In a carefully calibrated piece of trolling, the Hungarian justice ministry responded with a statement saying it was also signing up to the appeal, as Hungary supports the initiative “to ensure the fundamental values of the Union are upheld”.
Haha, what a dick move
 
If I try to click on the "the guardian" article saying that, there is a hyperlink in the word "a statement". I wanted to read that. The hyperlink is: "http://deeply%20concerned/"
:/
 
Hehe, trolling in an article about trolling?
I haven't been able to find a simple to use "Report a typo" form for the Guardian, as most other news agencies have. Just lists and lists of addresses to contact the author, their editorial division etc
 
I think they may have had too many trols
 
Could very well be. Belgian and Dutch news isn't as widely read by the rest of the world (and foreign trolls usually don't speak Dutch)
 
9:27 AM
Wow. A Princeton associated prof on cyber security calls Zoom's security so bad "that Zoom can be classified as malware"
 
hahahaha
my partner needed to have an online chat and was suggested zoom because "skype is not private"
 
is there no FOSS alternative?
 
Not sure; ETH paid for a license, so that's what we use.
 
we use Microsoft teams, because UCL paid for it
It is actually quite a decent software
 
At this point it's about the only video conferencing software that I know of that is properly cross-platform. Skype is Microsoft sh*t and doesn't work via Ubuntu, you can use Chromium but sound is broken in that case. Jitsi only works in Chrome, with "support for chromium", but that doesn't work very well either.
 
9:32 AM
Microsoft Teams is cross platform because I only use it on Ubuntu
 
@AnderBiguri ah, then ETH perhaps needs to pay them instead of Zoom...
 
comes with meetings, chats, boards, markdown support, etc
not bad, really
 
How good is it for classroom teaching? Zoom has a nice feature to share screens, create "breakout rooms" (divide the class into separate groups) etc, which make it rather suited for teaching
 
ah, no idea, we use it for the research group
I think the people who teach use it too
but the only reason we use it is because UCL pays for it, so I suspect they pay for it for the teaching part, not us
 
Yea, same here
 
9:36 AM
@AnderBiguri sooo decent. It just logged me out in the middle of a meeting where I was sharing my screen. What a piece of shit.
@Adriaan not very
 
I don't get why Zoom doesn't allow large, paying institutions to use the Zoom code and infrastructure on their internal servers. AFAIK the ETH pays Microsoft to use Outlook for email, and that is a completely contained environment on their own servers
 
Screen sharing works, but limited on non-windows. Can't divide class into smaller groups, you have to create separate channels for that, or just ensure that other people don't join a meeting for fewer people, and I suspect you can only have one meeting in one channel at a time. Never tested this latter one, though
 
@AndrasDeak what? Really? Whenever I join a meeting with more than 2 people it automutes me so I dont disturb
@AndrasDeak limited on non-widows? How? maybe I dont use it much, but it kinda.... shares the screen?
@AndrasDeak you can have multiple meetings because people suck and don't join the correct meeting (I have experienced this)
maybe we have like, a pro verison or something?
 
WRT screen sharing, Zoom has an interesting feature that you can choose whether to share your screen (and which, in case of multiple physical screens), or just a single active window (e.g. your presentation)
 
yeah, that is good
 
9:48 AM
@AnderBiguri did you misread what I wrote...?
 
@AnderBiguri only full desktop can be shared, and no audio goes through
 
sorry, not very focused
 
@AnderBiguri neat!
@Adriaan windows teams does that
 
TBH, I use it with a group of people that are very casual and are coworkers, so I guess we dont really care if somethign goes a bit wrong
 
9:50 AM
And maybe web teams, but meetings (or just sharing?) don't work on firefox, just chrome
 
It also blurs your background if you want, replaces it by an image of your choice, and automatically follows your face if you move on screen XD
 
For Skype I experienced that you can't natively install it on Ubuntu. WebSkype works only on Microsoft crap or Chrome, and when running it on Chromium on Ubuntu I could at least open it and chat, but the calling-function was broken
@AnderBiguri Zoom can do that, but only on Windows/MAC with large enough processors
 
@AnderBiguri not on linux
 
ah, never tried it anyway
 
@Adriaan I think you can? I definitely can for debian
Unless it's skype pro or whatever
 
9:53 AM
@AndrasDeak The limitation that Zoom mentions in their feature description is that for Linux you need a "physical green screen", i.e. the actual piece of cloth behind you. Clicking the "Enhance my appearance" button, or whatever it's called, does absolutely zip on my PC
 
Check what I replied to...
 
Oh, nvm. Sorry.
 
My head hurts and the both of you are not helping :D
 
hahaha sorry 😃 D:
 
I didn't check Skype since last November (when I experienced the above), and now, when working from home I just open the Windows laptop I have
 
9:55 AM
oh wait, I just got that emoji resolved? confusing.
 
Probably a weather front plus lack of sleep
@AnderBiguri rlemon's dark theme?
 
😀 😃 😬 😒 Do you guys see the emojis?
 
Yes
 
hum, yes, but it did not happen few comments avobe
 
XD not supported
 
9:56 AM
50 mins ago, by Ander Biguri
:/
😒
 
Ah!
Off my loaded screen
 
just surprised, Ah, I should try to focus and work a bit. I got given a task for 3 days, and its been alsmot 3 weeks and I am nowhere near finishing it
this covid has killed my concetration
 
Heh
 
 
2 hours later…
11:30 AM
Hah, we just received an email from the uni that we're to get an official MS Teams license. No mention whatsoever about Zoom, but I can guess as to the reason
 
hahaha
 
> Microsoft Teams is a cloud application. All data is managed in Microsoft data centres in Switzerland and under Swiss law.
That's a good improvement. Zoom had 90% "Europe" storage, and 10% US/Aus, and that for data in Switzerland
Uhoh, official ETH guidance to the message-enter box: "Here you can enter and format messages. Add files, emojis, GIF files or stickers to make messages more lively". What on Earth made them think recommending to use emojis, let alone GIFs in a message was a good idea?
 
whastap I guess
 
Thank got they have stickers. What would we do without them.
 
12:25 PM
@Adriaan if you create a class team you can disable gifs and stickers at least
emojis are inevitable
 
@AndrasDeak :(
 

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