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8:31 AM
Hi !
 
 
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9:54 AM
\o
 
10:05 AM
 
10:32 AM
Nicky being savage
I believe the next would either be: 1) figure it out by doing some research, or 2) hire a consultant. If you go with option 1) you are welcome to ask specific programming question, but right now, this is not about programming. — Nicky Mattsson 2 hours ago
 
@AndrasDeak Well it looks like a question coming from a real job, and asking to do the job for them, and from scratch
 
well it's not like it's the first such question
not even the first "write my forgery detection" question
 
@flawr I have my residents registration, and a Swiss bank account :D
 
offshore shenanigans omg!
 
@AndrasDeak Switzerland doesn't even have shores...
 
10:43 AM
sucks to be landlocked
 
Says the one in another landlocked country
 
Well how else would I know it sucks?!
the only reason I know the word "landlocked", probably
 
There's only a few doubly-landlocked countries in the world (Liechtenstein amongst them)
 
About locked countries, when I look at a Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina map, I'm curious...
 
well countries inside countries are bound to be weird
@Bebs Croatia is not landlocked
they have our former seashore :P
 
10:46 AM
Neither is Bosnia-Herzegovina; they have a 3km shore line, which separates the lower tip of Croatia from the rest
 
no, but it looks like Bosnia-Herzegovina was voluntarily landlocked, it doesn't seem natural
 
ah, I see
 
@AndrasDeak just wait until Orbán sucks a teeny bit harder on Putins you-know-what, and you'll have all the Russian shore for your country
 
and lots of fancy tanks \o/
and voluntary resistance movements started by Russian-speaking people in balaclavas
 
@Bebs they aren't land locked; although their sea-access is at the end of a 30km bay with both sides controlled by Croatia
 
10:48 AM
@Adriaan it looks like "OK, we take all your seeshores, but we are not bad guys so we give few a small see access"
 
Take a peek at the Namibian panhandle in that case; the Germans wanted access to the river, so they got a 250km long, 2km wide stretch of land for exactly that purpose
 
@Adriaan yes, I noticed that. There's a lot of examples like this... remains of old world negotiations
 
@Adriaan congrats, what bank did you choose?
 
@flawr Credit Suisse
 
and everything went well I assume?
 
11:01 AM
The local branch where I went to had all of its windows, all of them, thrown in last weekend by protesters against the World Economic Forum in Davos o.0
@flawr Yes. Getting the residence permit was expensive, but all went easy enough. I was confused though that they needed my fathers and mothers name at the municipal office, and wanted to ask me 8 questions about my relation to the US (green card, birth place, taxes etc)
 
Yeah there are always a few idiots....
 
But apparently they have to ask those questions to Swiss nationals as well :s
 
@Adriaan that is not uncommon
 
I'm not sure whether they'll forward this info to the US, I hope not...
 
well maybe you have to wait a little bit until you start you money laundering business
 
11:04 AM
But that's bollocks imo; I, as a Dutch and EU citizen who has never been to the US and never has had any dealings with them, will be screened by the RIS?!? That's outrageous, and imo makes Switzerland a vazal-state of the US, not unline Puerto Rico
 
RIS?
 
US tax office
 
Ah
Well in the case that you do not have anything realted to the US I do not think they will have access do your data.
The only exchange will be between CH and NL
but then again I don't know shit
 
There won't be an exchange with NL, since I no longer pay taxes there
 
I assumed you still have a bank account there, don't you?
 
11:28 AM
I do, but taxes on monetary assets kick in at quite a high level (50k iirc)
 
11:38 AM
@gnovice Id say: "Nothing", "Something", "Shit, that's too much!", and "sqrt(potato)"
 
12:32 PM
 
@flawr he didn't like being moved did he?
 
@Adriaan at least it has algebraic roots
 
12:58 PM
You guys are surely familiar with newton's {iterative} method for solving equations, but are you familiar with the "reflective" variant of said method? I think this is also used in MATLAB.. I was about to read the math-heavy paper that explains this variant, but I was hoping somebody could summarize the difference for me in simple words before I go about that...
 
@Dev-iL how much detail you want?
 
sorry, never heard of it
 
I think its reflective just because its bounded
its a newtons method for linear constrains on the range of the solution
 
what does reflective mean in this context?
 
guess: it bounces back from the boundary
who needs facts when you have arbitrary guesswork
 
1:05 PM
I believe that what it does, briefly, is a tranformation that converts the current bounded problem into unbounded, and it happens to be something that looks like a reflection
 
@AnderBiguri Ah, so what you're saying is that while the newton method is for unbounded problem, the reflective one is a modification that allows to specify bounds?
 
so the transform x(bounded)->y(unbounded) can be plotted as a triangle signal
@Dev-iL it is specifically for bounds
 
Ok, thanks
 
1:18 PM
@AnderBiguri There's an idiom in Hebrew which literally translates to "on one leg", i.e. in an amount of detail/depth that you could fit into the longest period of time where you can manage to stand on one leg. There's also a story behind this idiom, since it is quite ancient
 
1:47 PM
@Dev-iL I like that:)
One of the tests in the recruiting process of the swiss army involves trying to stand on one leg as long as possible :)
@Dev-iL can you put a number on that, or can this also take way longer than you could actually stand on one leg?
 
it's probably a figure of speech
 
sure, but sometimes these still can have a certain specificity
 
2:03 PM
@Dev-iL whats the story?
 
2:51 PM
@flawr It's never specific, but generally means "I need the very shortest summary of topic X"
 
3:23 PM
@Dev-iL thanks
 
 
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4:28 PM
awesome possum album
 
4:43 PM
@ballBreaker you might like this: falkormusik.bandcamp.com/album/uma
 
@flawr I can survive Swiss prices; Lidl has 3 pizzas for 3.49 Fr. \o/
 
@Adriaan Lidl isn't really representative of swiss prices, but be glad that you found one:)
They sometimes have great stuff for real cheap.
(emphasis on sometimes)
 
Is Lidl like a grocery store?
 
Lives in the msot expensive country in EU: " I can survive Swiss prices"
YOU ARE RICH, I SEE
:P
How's the move?
@ballBreaker playing ;)
uhhhh sounds neat
ah, you already shared with me in the past I think, glad to rediscover
 
5:00 PM
Have I? hmm maybe, I'm kind of rediscovering for myself again as well!
 
The band is in my artist list and you are the postrock nuthead
must have been you
 
@AnderBiguri good so far, got my residence permit and bank account today
 
neat! When do you start officially the PhD?
 
@flawr my girlfriend loved the Lidl in Finland, especially the 'random boxes'. Today they had a lot of clothes, microwaves and deep-frying pans :P
@AnderBiguri 1st Feb
 
Nice! :D
 
5:02 PM
@Adriaan yeah sure, you can find good stuff, but as you said, they are pretty random:)
also booze
 
@AnderBiguri whoa don't let @flawr see this ;)
 
@AnderBiguri Must have been! I didn't realize how awesome that album I sent you was, the last half is gorgeous :)
 
@flawr only shitty cocktail-booze though. The Denner at the corner has proper whisky, as does the humongous COOP down the road
 
@Adriaan What is Lidl though?
 
@ballBreaker a German supermarket chain. Known for being dirt-cheap
 
5:04 PM
they generally just leave shit in their boxes, not even put on shelves
that cheap
 
No A-brands (although here I did see some), usually no choice in products, and they often have crates with random factory run-offs: shoes, clothing, kitchen appliances etc
 
In Spain once a neighbourhood had a suprise with their bananas, as when they got home where all full of cocaine XD
 
@Adriaan but cheap :)
 
Aparently someone was smuggling it into the country and they missed their delivery, ended up in shelves
 
haha
 
5:05 PM
Oh damn that sounds pretty awesome haha
That's amazing
 
@flawr I brought 2 bottles of whisky from home, and the missus will bring another one in a couple of weeks
 
Imagine biting into a cocaine banana
 
I mean, it was obviously cocaine though
 
@Adriaan also note that migros doesn't sell any alcohol
 
Oh yeah, I guess typically people peel bananas...
 
5:07 PM
@ballBreaker I once bought a pair of safety shoes for €25, they lasted me for 10 years :D (I also bought crap which fell apart in a week...)
 
@Adriaan thats the type of product that you need for long-lasting though
imagine safety shoes that only last 1~3 months
 
that's pretty good! I guess it's a pretty hit-or-miss store, like you can strike gold, or step in a pile of shit
 
"They will protect you 100%!(unless they expire)"
 
"or unless they do not"
 
@ballBreaker yes! Their grocery supply is standard, but the rest completely random and subject to change without notion
 
5:16 PM
Ooooh okay, I wish they had something like that here
 
5:57 PM
@Adriaan also lidl's quality isn't that bad, based on what I hear
I have several relatives who prefer lidl
 
@AndrasDeak Yup; they've been selected as best supermarket for vegetables and fruits for the past 10 years in a row by the Dutch consumers authority. Basically they select a product which they think is good, and they don't offer alternatives. So if you think their peanut butter is rubbish, you'll have to go to another store
 
sounds nice and socialist, no wonder my people like it
 
one draw back is that they are usually quite understaffed
 
so is IKEA :P
 
they do at least have usually more than one cashier
and you do not have to go there that often:)
 
6:11 PM
true
 
6:31 PM
@flawr pretty nifty stuff!
 
 
3 hours later…
9:32 PM
someone posted this to the python room, could interest you folks as well
 
9:59 PM
@AndrasDeak that's just evil
 
oh yeah, nerd snipe warning :D
 
pewpew
 
10:32 PM
@AndrasDeak An answer to your question on Meta speaks of The Great Unwelcoming. Does that refer to the infamous post and the wave of discomfort it generated among users?
 
yes
not just the post, but the whole baggage of changing flags, changing rules, pressure to entertain lazy-ass posters, the "new contributor" indicator that goes against every traditional value of SO, and so on
I have a few meta posts in the subject, on the side of suggesting caution, e.g. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/366875/…
there are also plenty of popular linked posts on the right for further reading if you're interested
591    Does Stack Exchange really want to conflate newbies with women/people of color?
517    When is Stack Overflow going to stop demonizing the quality-concerned users who have made the site a success?
86     Declining Numbers of Women in Programming, What Can SO do to Help?
236    On the false dichotomy between quality and kindness
112    Please ask if there is a problem before telling us there is a problem
the middle one is Yvette's older post, the other 4 are all welcoming-related I think
 
11:26 PM
the "new contributor" indicator that goes against every traditional value of SO This observation is spot-on
@AndrasDeak Yes, I remember that one
Out of that list, I see I upvoted most of them :-)
 

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