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10:08 AM
@Adriaan this is going bad in general eh
 
it is. I like George's writings on the topics, he makes good insights, and only proposes solutions.
 
therefore: Fired!
 
The quote from Joel which he unearthed about the desired characteristics of the new chairman were unsettling to say the least. It does make me think that mrs Boss is not the starter of all the fires, merely a newly recruited tool of the CEO to do his dirty work. She might be overzealous, but the main idea seems to stem from the fact that they need to go from 70M/yr to 700M/yr
 
I dont think there is a particular person to blame here, mostly because we don't know who is behind any staff messages. Its the general management/bussines values
indeed this seems to come from a complete shift on the idea of what is So
 
It reminds me of the current situation at the Deutsche Bahn (German national rail). A few years back an attempt at selling the company by the state resulted in less maintenance being done. This meant that at short term trains were still going, and income skyrocketed. However, a few years on, the lack of maintenance is now showing badly, and less than 3/4 of the (long distance) trains is on time.
 
10:14 AM
@Adriaan you just need to take a flight to London, and then a train to anywhere in the country to realize how a terrible idea privatizing the rail system is
 
On public Q/A the income is generated by Google-led eyes, as they are the only ones who still see ads. That will keep on churning for the next year or two, whether anyone moderates or not. Most money is being made on teams now; as George mention there are at least 28 companies paying >1M/yr for the product.
 
Trains are so old (due to money going to investors instead of maintenance/upgrading) that there are still trains with wooden chairs, or a huge amount of them, to open the door, you need to open the window and manually unlock it from the outside
no electronics
 
Quaint :-)
 
Thus, killing off an expensive, and vocal part of the company is great for revenue in the short term. And to be fair, if SO ditches all other network sites, and public Q/A completely, they might as a business not even do worse than currently.
@AnderBiguri The honourable member for the 19th century, Rees-Mogg, will love that :P
 
@LuisMendo getting late to everywhere is very quaint indeed :P
@Adriaan the nincompoop
 
10:19 AM
^^ :-D
 
10:35 AM
@Adriaan I think she came before the CEO. Same board though
I've seen enough posts of Sara to be sure that she at least agrees with all this, maybe even enjoys it
@Adriaan that's not Teams, that's Enterprise that's been here for many years. Teams is Mini Enterprise for smaller scales
 
I mean, I dont think shes a force of evil. Its just people with a completely different worldview on how things should be. Perhaps a very wrong one, but not an evil one
 
can you characterise what they did to Shog as anything other than evil?
 
I'm not saying they are evil, just that they make, in my opinion, not the best decisions for the interest of the community, but for their own wallets.
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Jan 17 at 22:11, by George Stocker
To be clear about Shog: he didn’t know the GoFundMe was coming. He didn’t know i would do that. I spoke to him the night before it started and found out several things, but the relevant one was they were going to give him 8 weeks severance with onerous conditions for 10 years work
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Jan 17 at 22:13, by George Stocker
The normal would be 1 month per year. The people who got lay-off in 2017 got 6 months
 
Don't get me wrong, I agree that this is a terribly managed shitshow that is going as bad as it could go, but I don't think is evil. Also, Sara is not HR, is she? Meaning its not all coming from a single person.
 
10:40 AM
You fire your CM who's best in touch with the community still, who's also one of the two strongest CMs altogether. You fire him after 10 years, during which time he by any standard shaped the product itself. And you give him 8 weeks severance with a "don't come to work tomorrow". Then allegedly tweet about that "it's finally done"
 
Again, I do not think a lot of people that I fundamentally disagree with in absolute everything are necessarily evil.
 
You don't think that people who condone murder are evil?
 
Yes! I do! But this is not that
@AndrasDeak yeah, this is a shitty move indeed.
 
do you condone murder? :P
 
NOOOoooOOO
 
10:41 AM
I wonder what that "disagree with in absolute everything" might actually mean then :PP
 
I don't think all ultra-conservative racist bigots are evil. Some are. Some are incredibly wrong, but come from a deep misunderstanding of the world.
 
Yeah, sure, "evil" is a strong word and it has a biblical meaning at its root. Most people are not "evil". But in practical terms, being this much of a dick on purpose is evil.
and you might google the meaning of the word; well, google agrees with me enough that they removed or hid "don't be evil" from their manifesto :PP
 
@AndrasDeak I knew US labour laws were pissing on blue collar workers and only in place to protect the interests of business people, but this is rather horrible :s
 
But yeah, that was a dick move. I agree with that. I generally interpret as evil as: Doing something bad for the shake of doing damage/destroying something/someone
 
@Adriaan I think it varies a lot by state. In a lot of places you are given the privilege to work and stuff like that
@AnderBiguri define "bad"...most ultra-conservative racist bigots will happily damage or destroy people who they think are inferior
 
10:45 AM
I just was saying that not everything that does harm is necesarily done in with harmful intent. That does not absolve someone from the consequences of doing something bad, but I think does not tag someone a evil
 
Are you talking about The Greater Good? Because that's always there. In this case it's The Company Vision and Ensuring Inclusion. As far as the small picture is concerned, they knew very well that firing Shog like that was going to harm him badly
bad enough that he needs a fundraiser now
 
e.g. I do not condone murder. But killling someone because of a cheese sadwich or because he was raping your daughter are very differen. I dont think the second one is evil
 
I don't think the former is evil either
 
still, this is an unecesary moral discussion. Yeah, they suck and they should be held accountable for doing this shitty thing and I do not give them a pass
@AndrasDeak man you love cheese sadwiches
:P
 
@AnderBiguri you started it :P
 
10:48 AM
yes I take the responsability
I a now sitting in a corner as a punishment
:P
@Adriaan yeah in most of the Europe I know this is illegal
or they would need to pay way more
 
@AnderBiguri good! I hope it's uncomfortable :P
 
@AnderBiguri here if you have a non-fixed-term contract there's at least 3 months. And there's also a mandatory 3-month trial period at the start during which both parties can quit without explanation. Fixed-term contracts can only be terminated with mutual agreement I think.
 
In the UK and Spain, the company can indeed terminate a fixed-term contract
now, there is a large amount of money that needs to come from that. E.g. a friend of mine was fired from a companyy due to them closing down the office where he worked. After 3 years working there, they needed to pay him 25K£ for doing it
which was likely almsot a year salary
and that is calculated by how long he was working htere
si after 10y, the packages go easily over 100K£, AFAIK
so they can technically fire you, they try no to :P
 
Yeah, that's customary here. Not sure about exact laws.
 
10:58 AM
In NL there is a 1 month trial period iirc. You can get a limited term contract of maximum 12 months, not more than 2 limited term contracts per company+employee, and if you have served 24 months on 2 limited term contracts, the company is required to hire you permanently. (Thus companies usually give you 12+11 months for jobs like cashiers). Fixed term contracts are bloody difficult to get rid of
 
We have similar but with looser requirements. I'm pretty sure it can be longer than 1 year, there's no maximum amount per person+employer, and conversion to permanent happens after 3 or 5 years
 
That's why companies nowadays use a different loophole: ZZP, Dutch acronym for "Independent without personnel". This means they can hire a company instead of a person, and you can hire companies on project basis etc for as long as you desire, and the moment you no longer need the "company" (read: employee) you can just stop the consultancy
@AndrasDeak iirc PhD positions are one of the sole exceptions in NL; those are four years, limited term. However, a PostDoc then can only get a single 1 year contract with that uni. This is incidentally also why PostDocs in NL will terminate after 23 months
 
ha, nice
 
@Adriaan in any case, its rare to have Postdoc positions for longer than that
Mine will be 20 months
 
@AnderBiguri I see regular advertisements for 5 year postdocs (mainly from Austria)
 
11:11 AM
Its not the standard. Also: damn, Austria pays well......
I got an offer in Austria and UK and we ended up choosing UK. But UK can literally not pay as much as Austria, as you'd be on a Lecturer salary range :O
 
Austria is good. Nice Monarchy food ;)
 
ETH pays 90k/yr to a PostDoc
 
but life is more than money, ultimately
 
@AnderBiguri tell that to SO ;)
 
@Adriaan lol. More than double my London salary.... And London is kinda expensive....
 
11:13 AM
to be fair: ETH is insanely rich. They get 1.7B/yr from the government.
 
@Adriaan I have, right now. We are chatting in SO!
 
@Adriaan woof
 
@Adriaan i going to UCL. its a top 10 uni in the world (according to those bshit ranking systems) . I suspect that does not come free
 
monthly ETH wage is roughly equal to my annual net
 
Zürich life is more expensive than Budapest-life though
 
11:15 AM
To your defense, monthly rent in Swizerland is likely the price of a house in your place
 
by a factor of 12?
 
No, definetly not
 
I don't think so either :D
 
@AnderBiguri I pay 1600CHF/month for a reasonable 50m² place with the missus
 
LOL
I will pay that for the same in London
but with half the salary (as Postdoc) ;)
 
11:16 AM
nice, that's 1.5x my monthly gross wage
 
if CHF==GBP (which they are not)
 
OTOH, I paid 1100/month for 22m² when I got here
 
@Adriaan which again, is London prices
 
but unlike London you can probably get from A to B in Zürich
 
Yes, I will live near zone 1 of London. If I go 30km from the center (likely zone 4 or so) I can pay 1300 instead :/
 
11:18 AM
When I went on the search for PhD positions I searched a bit about how much you earn in certain places, and how much livelihood costs (I think @AnderBiguri mentioned a site), and I found out that in general you could save 10-30%, depending on your lifestyle, regardless the place. However, 25% on an ETH salary is more than 25% on a Dutch salary in absolute terms
 
Indeed. In London however you can generally not save enough. Tube is 150£/month. I mean, its ridiculous. Only people that are well off can live there. (I consider myself more or less well off, I have a PhD in the end)
 
tram here is 85CHF/month (with a 300CHF/yr 50% off subscription, that is)
But I cycle everywhere, and damn the hills
 
bah, in any case, I am happy. London is London. Has a lot to offer, its a fun city to live in (when you can afford it). No compaints
 
Same here, can't complain. I like it here.
 
well, Brexit, but I don't seem to be able to do anythign about it so....
 
11:24 AM
No such worries here :P
 
I am still not there, moving in around a couple of weeks!
Hows your life @AndrasDeak, is research more and more difficult or are you still clinging to it?
 
Well, actually, there are, at times, but the show will go on as usual. The Swiss most likely won't vote in favour of abolishing the bilateral agreements with the EU, as they'd not just shoot themselves in the foot, they'd bomb it to s**t
 
@Adriaan how will the Swiss "exit" be named?
 
@AnderBiguri research is fine I guess
 
Swisdependence day
?
 
11:26 AM
my clinging is questionable ;)
 
Sill trying to be in the system, or are you thinking of selling your soul?
 
@AnderBiguri Liberation day?
brb, lunch
 
@AnderBiguri both are on the table
have to decide what to do in the coming months...
 
Do you at least have some options, or is it a general "will I fight this or just search something else" kinda situation?
 
Yeah, there's a government postdoc grant. Slightly more wage than what I have now, but barely.
 
11:31 AM
well, good luck with your decision. Its generally a hard one
 
Thanks. It's the most difficult I've ever had to make.
 
you guys dont want to move somewhere else right? You are both happy where you are
 
yup
 
Yeah, I was a bit unhappy in my previous job and decided to quit without a "next thing to do" and that "what do I do now, should I just go to industry moment" was hard. We all go trhough this differently, but I kinda get how hard is it to make.
Well, youll sure make the right decision!
 
we'll try, thanks :)
I just checked, and my monthly gross wage would equal 964 GBP. Net is 2/3 that :D
 
11:37 AM
thats quite bellow minimum wage in the UK. But again, cost of living is way higher. I assume as we said, not higher in relationship. But minimum UK wage gets you to nowhere in the UK tbh.
 
minimum wage is 42% of that
 
UK minimum wage take home at 37.5h a week is around £1,201.86.
that said, its hard to get a room for less than 500£
so 40% of your salary goes to a bed in a shared accomodation
 
"funny" thing is that rents have skyrocketed
 
yeah, now your city is "cool" I assume a lot of international people living in the center?
 
net minimum wage (assuming no extra tax deductions) is 107k forint per month, and you can't easily rent under 100k in the city I think
@AnderBiguri not sure, but it's not just the center
real estate prices have also gone up a lot, but mostly because the government gives away money and cheap loans to people willing to breed
so if young people (planning/having children) get +10M forints free or cheap: real estate prices go +10M forints
which is quite a lot by Hungarian standards
 
11:44 AM
Not sure how it goes around the country there. In London is similar though. Less than 1000£ per person is impossible in London Zone 1 (which is massive in area BTW). So with minimum wage its impossiible. the ratios are indeed quite worse in your country, but UK is not a heaven of money :P
 
tne years ago you could by a small flat from that amount, now you'd have to pay at least twice as much
 
ah, classic bad managed social help stuff. Pouring money is not enough, you need to control the price too
Now London has forbade letting agencies to charge +600£ in fees to the tenant at the start of the contract. Thus, all house rent prices have gone up 100£ a month. Well, I rather pay the fees then!
 
We're all about bad managed. The two driving forces are exclusively 1. moving a lot of money opaquely to friends of the government, or 2. populist shit
The other day the government decreed that they won't pay compensation for damages (despite court rulings mandating that) to prison inmates kept under inhumane conditions.
 
yes indeed. And with all you said, I have no doubt its a shitshow over there. I just complain about the UK to make clear that is not a money bonanza superstar here, which some people may think looking at salaries
@AndrasDeak dang
thats bad
 
Because, you know, stick it to those bastards and this will probably give some votes. Orbán also questioned on TV why compensation should be paid to gypsies who were segregated from birth, again despite court ruling
Not sure if the same government ruling affects those payouts. But he said "I understand that a lot of people in that town are up in arms. Paying those people money without working for it?". Yeah, very subtle.
(the context is that the mayor's office should be the one to pay but they are reluctant)
 
11:51 AM
man, you have a bad goverment
 
This is a town with an extreme-right mayor and a history of abuse against gypsies. We have plenty of that elsewhere too, but this was in the media
@AnderBiguri no kidding :P
 
still, people's support is huge right?
@AndrasDeak i might have seen a report on this
 
@AnderBiguri huge-ish
 
I mean, significant enough as to not be a worry for them
 
the last independent branch of state is the court, hence these rulings. But Highest Court or whatever is compromised
@AnderBiguri yeah, last elections forty-something percent of votes gave 2/3 in parliament
 
11:54 AM
Well, thats how a lot of countries work. Seat allocation, d'Honts law and all those shenanigans
 
 
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1:15 PM
Quick question: do you see a company image next to the c tag? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/c
ah
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Keith ThompsonThe c tag is being displayed with what appears to be a Qt icon (and the qt tag is not). Tag wiki (Screenshot below)

but I though sponsored tags where curated, as, you can not just sponsor something randomly
So, you need to be Google.inc to be sponsor of Go
 
Given that Qt is a C++ framework and doesn't even have a C interface, this is almost certainly a bug or human mistake. No need to antagonise over why the image is blurry or why Qt might be sponsoring. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 hour ago
Someone pressed a wrong button probably
 
ah that makes sense
 
1:58 PM
@AnderBiguri they are buggy all the time
 
2:20 PM
yup I see
 
2:58 PM
Just had a lindt marzipan bar, yummmmm
 
@AndrasDeak don't those cost a day's wages in Hungary? I mea, they are already ridiculously expensive here
 
wife got it as a gift and she doesn't really like marzipan :D Besides, it was small :(
 
I'll be sure to bring a few if I ever stop by your place again
 
she'll be delighted :P
 
I got Lindor Easter eggs after Easter last year, and they still cost 30CHF/kg, and that at a 50% discount. They were delicious though
 
3:04 PM
well lindor and "/kg" don't mix :D
make sure they don't catch your smuggling ass on the border
wife says you can bring dark chocolate :D
 
@AndrasDeak where 300CHF is the minimum declaration amount for entering Switzerland, that's 300 HUF there? ;)
@AndrasDeak I will take the matter up at home to discuss a visit. I'd definitely like to go there again
 
cool! :)
looked it up; this 50g marzipan bar costs ~1.5 CHF here
 
115CHF pp to fly Friday-Monday. Not bad, that's the same price as it is to go to the Netherlands.
Oh!!1! There might even be a night train <3
 
oh, right, there was one when I was stranded in Zürich
 
Zürich - Budapest Keleti is direct, according to the SBB
 
3:14 PM
but if you're coming here to visit us make sure to arrange a rough date that works for us too :D
@Adriaan yeah
 
Not bad, 11hr39min, arrive 09:30
 
@Adriaan uh, thats a lot. Is Zurich that far from Vienna? I did Vienna Budapest in like 5h I think
maybe I am wrong
 
Zürich-Vienna is 8 hours. Austria is very East-West elongated, and Vienna is about the Western most point
70CHF to go night train with bed; 35 to go seat. Not bad. Not bad at all
 
could be, I am bad at discances in central europe
 
@AnderBiguri Wien-Bp is less
...I think
 
3:18 PM
I yeah, I did Wien-Bratislava-Bp
with a day stop
 
2.5 hours direct, apparently
 
Sorry, no freehand red circles here
 
oh neato
you going to visit Andras again?
 
@Adriaan oh wow I was so wrong
 
@ballBreaker I sure would like to.
 
3:20 PM
@AnderBiguri #westerneuropeproblems
 
nice :D
damn I always thought Liechtenstein was a fake place
 
@AnderBiguri yea, I am also surprised at times by how elongated Austria is, and that Vienna is about the furthest away from Switzerland/Western Europe you can get
 
this time he'll probably even be good for lunch here
 
well, I am from that protuberance EU has. My country is easy, its a square. Max you need to know is how much sqrt(2) is to get approximate distances
 
@AndrasDeak I guess lunch for four people in Budapest costs about an hours worth of wages for me, so sure!
 
3:21 PM
@ballBreaker lol, American (yes, Canada is America)
 
@ballBreaker I mean, I have yet to meet someone from there. Still unsure if its there
 
@Adriaan I meant having you over here for some home-made food
 
Yeah I mean the pictures look like a fairy tale, and exactly Ander, do people even live there? Nobody knows
maybe the secret is that they never leave
 
@AnderBiguri I was almost there last September. It was located behind the hill where we stayed at
 
ah, but you didnt see it did you
 
3:22 PM
@AndrasDeak ohhh, neato
 
DID YOU
 
@AndrasDeak :O surprised pikachu
lmao
 
@AnderBiguri Nope; 30km hike with 1500m height difference. A friend of mine had lunch there on his way to Zürich though... and I could get there in 90 minutes if I leave now ;)
 
hes probably involved in the deep (lienchestein) state conspiracy
 
found Ander's kryptonite
 
3:23 PM
hahaha
nah, its a joke my brother had
once after 6 years of joking he actually met someone from there
and was super disapointed
 
bahahaha
You know your country is small when even europeans are joking about it
 
To be fair: it doesn't have Google street view (banned by state law), so that supports the theory.
 
@ballBreaker well it's a city state. Like Monaco
 
That makes sense, I was going to ask if it was just a single city
like vatican-style
 
but monaco is in movies and such. have you ever seen a movie where people go to Liechestein?
 
3:25 PM
@ballBreaker yup
 
@ballBreaker vatican is not a city, its like, 3 buildings
big ones, but yeah
 
true
 
hmm god point
good* (but I like the messup)
 
@AndrasDeak Liechtenstein is not a city state. It's an Alpine valley with 36,000 inhabitants, spread over a racket of about 12 villages
 
3:27 PM
Really? But there's also a city of Liechtenstein, right?
no there isn't one!
Sorry, I had no idea. Thanks.
So I guess I'm as bad as Dustin. That stings.
 
You're even worse, because you acted like you were right
 
hehe, but I always do
 
hehe yeah, me too usually
 
@AndrasDeak oh dang I did not know that
 
> Population-wise, Liechtenstein is Europe's fourth-smallest country; Vatican City, San Marino, and Monaco have fewer residents.
Monaco is a city state, San Marino is close enough (capital is San Marino, plus a little territory here and there), Vatican as discussed
I guess that kind of grouping is what threw me
 
3:32 PM
brb googling San Marino lol
Jeeze
 
It's a dwarf-state alright, but not completely build-up like a city state. It's more of a valley everyone seems to have forgotten doesn't belong to Switzerland.
 
well for one you can't be a city state if you don't have a city by the same name
 
I am suprised those are smaller than Andorra
maybe Andorra doesn't count as a state
given it has no proper government?
76k inhabitants. The others are just tiny :D
 
You guys are really learning me right now on some small countries in Europe
 
Andorra is basically 3 ski resorts and 1 spa
It has like, 3 roads plus 4 mountain roads in total
 
3:36 PM
This all kind of reminds me of when Peter Griffon makes his own country out of his house
 
The European microstates or European ministates are a set of very small sovereign states in Europe. The term is typically used to refer to the six smallest states in Europe by area: Andorra, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, and Vatican City. Four of these states are monarchies (three principalities—Andorra, Liechtenstein, and Monaco—and one papacy, the Vatican City), with all these states tracing their status back to the first millennium or the early second millennium, except for Liechtenstein, created in the 17th century. Microstates are small independent states recognized by larger states...
 
Andorra is THE BIGGEST
WTF is tiny
 
Ouuu thanks
Love me some knowledge
Damn liechtenstein is a monarchy?
I need to find me a princess
 
So, the inner part of London, having around 40% of the city population, is bigger than all of those, but Andorra, with 319km2. Greater London is 3 times Andorra in area
 
3:40 PM
I had no idea Monaco was basically the size of my backyard
 
@ballBreaker I like how it the wikipedia page, even in the zoomed in map, you can barely see it
 
hahahah yeah I was just chuckling at that
just a pin drop
 
 
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5:12 PM
@AnderBiguri and it has a lot of popes!
I just learned it has more than 2 popes per square kilometer
2
That must beat pretty much any other country.
 
@flawr technically true
 
5:38 PM
@AndrasDeak Malta is quite big. I mean, three islands, sure, but about the population of Luxembourg. Why is Malta on the list, but not Luxembourg?
@ballBreaker not only that, it's one of the few "true" monarchies with power left in Europe. They had a referendum a few years back about rescinding some of that power, and the Prince said: "If you agree to this, I will move all my wealth and staff to my Vienna palace" And the referendum passed with >90% voters wanting to remain a monarchy with the Prince as true power
 
that is ridiculous. Its 2020
 
@AnderBiguri problem is: Prince is hugely popular, and employs like half the country
That, and most of its politics which really matter are governed by Switzerland anyway (Which is why I call it "Switzerland's 27th canton" to the ire of the Swiss)
 
yes, like in the middle ages, but that does not make it right
 
@AnderBiguri or present day Qatar, Saudi, ...
 
yes indeed. But well.... a lot of stuff to say about how that works for some people
 
5:46 PM
I don't think a more-or-less absolute monarchy like Liechtenstein compares to present day Gulf-states. I haven't read much on it, but all in all Liechtenstein seems like a pretty normal country in terms of human rights, rule of law etc. Sure, they have weird banking laws (even weirder than Switzerland) and an absolute monarch, but it seems like a nice enough place to live
 
yeah yeah I don't doubt it
just the think of that referendum is weird
 
@AnderBiguri So, the prince's powers where enshrined in law in 2003, and a 2012 referendum to abolish it failed with 76% voters against.
Oh, it was the last country in Europe to grant women the right to vote: 1984. Fun times, fun times.
 
lol
"The Princely family threatened to veto the referendum if it resulted in a vote in favour of removing the veto,"
LOL
 
@Adriaan area, methinks
Lux is 5x larger or so
 
@Adriaan damn lmao that's pretty interesting
 
6:02 PM
@Adriaan an absolute monarchy is as good as its king/queen
it can be great and it can suck
right now I'd prefer a Habsburg Hungary
 
@AndrasDeak an absolute republic (pretty much like France, US, Turkey and Hungary atm) are as good as their presidents as well. I can only imagine what it is to live under such circumstances
 
No, our president has very little power. The only reason we're fucked is that one party has majority in parliament.
 
Nah, because in theory there are ways of getting these people accountable for their actions
 
Y'all read the latest blog with the SO CEO? It sounds like a lot of bollocks IMO. "We're sorry for any friction caused in the past months" me arse.
 
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PchandrasekarHello members of the Meta community - I wanted to share the blog post I wrote to kick off 2020 and reflect on my first 90 days at the company. It’s intended for a wide audience, the tens of millions of people we serve, but also because I know you all want to hear directly from me. My style is to ...

that too ^
not bollocks yet; just "have you read"
worth being open to the gesture, we'll see if there's action behind the words
as with the CTO's apology after Monica, it went from +200 to -200 when people saw that nothing actually happened
 
6:18 PM
@Adriaan yepo
 
This is hilarious
The Question is Solved by Ander Biguri. I accept the answer as valid. — Saswat K. Levin 12 mins ago
 
Heh. The challenge has been met.
 
OP declared my question as correct XD
 
lmao
 
Thanks for your double accept @ballBreaker xd
 
6:23 PM
bahahaha no worries m8, solidarity
 
7:19 PM
@AndrasDeak bah. featured by a SO employee. Not a community elected moderator.
Hm, whilst I like Aaron's answer in general, the self-plug about his qualifications and election result do irk a bit
 
so you're saying he's being himself? :P
 
I have no clue; I haven't had much (if any) dealings with him
iirc I didn't vote for him. (Most of the people I voted for in moderator elections didn't get the job, if any)
 
yes, he has quite enough self-confidence :P
he campaigned for mod with being "a professor" (and his twitter says so)
I've yet to see evidence of that ;)
 
7:43 PM
@Adriaan you can check your votes on the right stackoverflow.com/election/8?tab=election
 
 
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9:09 PM
@AndrasDeak one of my votes made it, another I have made utterly surprises me today. I guess people change, or at least the perception one has of other people changes.
In other news, I spoke to the missus. 70CHF single fare to your city sounded very good in her ears, and she would like to come in spring or summer, as she thought winter a tad bleak. I will send an email by the time we have figured out a date.
 
Perfect! Looking forward to it :)
Wife says heads-up: in summertime it gets pretty hot, so there's fewer things that's comfortable to make in the kitchen ;)
usually happens in July-August
 

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