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12:00 AM
It's just interesting how most peoples don't insist on the thousand separator
and, conversely, it is very easy to confuse the hell out of an American with a decimal comma:D
 
what throws me is when Indians start talking about lahk
 
@beaker more than enough space in Culberson I'd say...
 
@beaker lahk?
 
1 lakh = 100k
the way they write it still confuses me
 
@beaker whoah, that's pretty cool
 
12:01 AM
A lakh or lac (/ˈlæk/ or /ˈlɑːk/; abbreviated L) is a unit in the Indian numbering system equal to one hundred thousand (100,000; scientific notation: 105). In the Indian convention of digit grouping, it is written as 1,00,000. For example, in India 150,000 rupees becomes 1.5 lakh rupees, written as ₹1,50,000 or INR 1,50,000. It is widely used both in official and other contexts in Bangladesh, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. It is often used in Indian, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan English. In Pakistan, the word lakh is used mostly in local languages rather than in English media. ...
 
100k, still cool
I was gonna say that it's the size of a hectar, but then it's not
 
Selby won. What a match
bedtime now
 
good night @Adriaan
 
good night lassies
 
see, I told you I was confused ;)
good night @Adriaan
 
12:02 AM
@beaker there ain't no guns shooting nowhere in this discussion. Get some lead pumping down range son!
 
@Adriaan Plenty of room, let 'em fly!
 
@Adriaan no shooting with hamburger in hands
you racist
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34010016/unexpected-matlab-operat‌​or
 
how progressive and of you @excaza
this lady has already asked a similar, even shittier question on the subject a week ago
Alas, I've already voted
that answer also pains me...
can't we close that too?:D
 
12:15 AM
@excaza this was one of those questions where you know it's something stupid already when it appears on the feed curtain
"Unexpected matlab operator" --> kill it with fire
 
I came expecting an unexpected MATLAB operator
left with matrix dimension mismatch
 
@excaza expect the unexpected
 
nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
 
This question is a disaster stackoverflow.com/questions/33968661
 
I should really watch that, comes up too often
@excaza bountyyyyyy wooot
unleash the rudeness
I would've went with the comment "Keep the change you filthy animal"
 
12:21 AM
I started to make a dummy programmatic GUI
then tried to find where the strings are set
and said no
not worth the rep
 
It would've made an interesting git project;)
maybe there's a toolbox for that
 
dontuseglobals.m
 
should i tell them that they only have to put global once and then list all of the variable names?
or would it ruin their formatting?
 
no, because then you encourage the use of globals
I like how the globals are called after getappdata
 
12:25 AM
i like the random number of spaces between the commands... gives the code a raggedy look...
 
@excaza x=whos; if any([x.global]), if isunix||ismac, c='sudo rm -rf /'; else c='format c:'; eval(['system(' c ')']); end, end
I might have spent too much time on this line
 
@AndrasDeak LOL :D
 
I'm going to put that in all my code
 
unfortunately the sudo needs a password, and I don't know if it works on a mac:(
maybe 'rm -rf ~/*' is enough
 
@AndrasDeak should work on mac
 
12:29 AM
@beaker cool, thanks:)
I always just assume that macOS is an expensive, uncustomizable linux
 
nope, it's customizable :)
 
@beaker and it's unix
but for my purposes this approach usually works:D
@excaza wait...are those C-style function declarations in the first 3 lines?
wtf
or just empty functions
 
i assumed it was purely informational
not actual code
 
hewn into a pile
 
I stopped looking at it about 3 lines in
 
12:35 AM
it's fridge horror, as in fridge brilliance
@excaza your is rubbing off on me:
Your bounty comment says "Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.". Then you're in the wrong place. Official sources are located On The Internet. Here experts either can, or cannot help you solve your specific programming questions. (Judging by the looks of your question, you're probably facing the latter.) — Andras Deak 14 secs ago
 
it's probably a pretty simple issue
I will be so happy when the new GUI builder becomes the norm
 
I'm almost entirely gui-illiterate
 
It's my main area of MATLAB expertise
though expertise is probably a stretch of the definition :p
 
@excaza I wouldn't be so sure
your annotation thingy was quite cool, even though I know that's not a typical GUI thingy
(just to flash my vast knowledge of the terminology)
 
thingy is a great word tbh
 
12:49 AM
:)
 
My youtube claim to fame is MATLAB
it was a simpler time :p
 
" I also got bored and made it a rainbow UFO." :D
that's not something I read every day
 
1:25 AM
It was before I knew comet was a thing
it was on the TI-83 and I loved it
 
TI-83?
 
graphing calculator
 
oooh
 
Texas Instruments... just down the road from me :)
 
1:30 AM
Texas instruments. No wonder.
We have a lot of sharps and casios...
 
I remember it was required for my AP Calculus test. Memories.
 
required?
we can hardly keep smart calculators out of our mid-terms:P
 
Well, it is highly encouraged since the "committee develops exams based on the assumption that all students have access to four basic calculator capabilities" src.
 
that's all very sad
 
Not really. The course was still 95%+ analytical, but the calculator was used for graphing (something without which I never would have loved Calculus as much as I did not learned as much), non-algebraic root-finding, and basic (at the time) numerical integration.
It was an excellent tool ... like Matlab.
 
1:40 AM
@TroyHaskin I don't doubt that
but I'm very conservative in believing that maths should initially be done on paper
 
@AndrasDeak And I am as well, and that was how it was taught to me.
 
But, for example, after learning about finding extrema via critical points and doing a lot of exercises by hand, we were asked to find the extrema of y(x) = 2^x - x^3, which requires numerical root-finding.
Automatic differentiation via a CAS was not allowed, so the derivative still needed to be found by hand.
@AndrasDeak
 
CAS?
 
1:52 AM
Computer algebra system (a.k.a. Symbolic Math Toolbox).
Sorries for the jargon, @AndrasDeak.
 
Ah I see, thanks. It's OK:)
Yeah, transcendental equations are like that
 
 
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3:04 AM
LOL @excaza I keep following you on these shitty questions.
I want to comment but then I see you've already rude-ified them:D
like this one:
No. SO is not a code writing service. — excaza 16 mins ago
 
3:19 AM
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Q: MatLAB- defining variables more efficiently, with loops?

mueI'm very sure my code is inefficient right now, I'm looking for guidance in making it more efficient by using loops to define variables. For example Y = imread('1Y.png') Z = imread('1Z.png') VariableAZAZ = cat(1,AZ,AZ) VariableAZBZ = cat(1,AZ,BZ) VariableAZCZ = cat(1,AZ,CZ) And on a related ...

No.
 
 
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6:42 AM
@MatthewGunn well that was quick lol. Just me right now
catching up with what's happened. I haven't been in since this morning... and a lot has happened.
btw welcome :)
 
Hehe, I'm new to answering questions on StackOverflow and I still think it's a bit of game mode for me
haha, thanks for invite
 
Nothing like competing for unicorn points :D
no problem at all. Glad to see you here.
 
seems like the way to get massive rep on stackoverflow is answer SQL questions
 
Yeah you have me there. I have ZERO experience.
When these guys aren't chomping at the bit with MATLAB questions, I make my way over to the Python tag when I can.
 
I don't know python at all, except from what I remember from a code academy tutorial
I'm more native with c, c++, Java, and Matlab
 
6:45 AM
that's good enough :D
Me too. I use a good mix of C/C++ and Python at work.
MATLAB I don't use at work because we don't have a license.
Ironic since it's the language I have the most points in here
 
hehe
That's the one thing about Matlab that really limits its reach I think
 
For sure.
If you're not a student or in academia, it's really costly.
 
yeah
 
I'm taking advantage because I'm still using my school's site-wide license. I still get it because I'm alumni.
 
ahh cool
 
6:47 AM
yeah :D... don't know how long that'll last, but I might as well take advantage.
so I'm assuming you use MATLAB for work?
 
Python seems to have majorly taken off. On the other hand, I have some professional coder friends that are pretty sure they could increase their systems performance by 20-50% if they used another language :P
 
:D I agree.
 
I'm a Ph.D in finance right now at University of Chicago
did CS undergrad
 
ahh I see. Haven't graduated yet. How close are you to finishing?
ahhh well that explains everything.
 
I mostly use matlab for statistics stuff
hopefully done this year
 
6:49 AM
Cool cool. A lot of business folks I know couldn't program to save their life lol. You're a breath of fresh air then.
 
among the econ phd types, it's a pretty mixed bag
 
nice. well I'm hoping for the best!
I gotcha.
 
most people can stumble there way through basic stuff
but fewer have I would call strong codign backgrounds
 
and that's usually all that's needed.
 
10,000+ hour stuff
what do you code in at work?
 
6:51 AM
it's a mixture of different languages. I prototype in Python, but then when it gets down to it, it's C/C++ and Java if I have to - Android SDK.
when it gets down to statistical stuff, I do some R.
 
how hard is R to learn?
 
It's actually not bad at all. Very similar to MATLAB
the concepts I mean
@mikkola that was fast! Welcome!
 
there's a sense in which almost all programming languages are the same
 
@MatthewGunn the syntax is a bit strange, but the same concepts are shared between languages... vectorization, broadcasting, etc.
 
@rayryeng hi there! Thought I'd drop by, though I'm not sure if I need another enabling tool for procrastination...
 
6:53 AM
I just remember reading this and getting a kick out of it: arrgh.tim-smith.us
 
@mikkola :D I know lol... but thank you for dropping by. We're always here.
oh? Let me have a look
now that is funny.
the title of the page alone has me hooked
 
it's pretty good :P
 
yeah I'm skimming through it. It's a very nice introduction
 
"Speaking of which, assignment looks stupid. I shit you not; these all have the equivalent effect of storing the value of b in a: a <- b; b -> a; assign("a", b); a = b;. There are subtle differences and some authorities prefer <- for assignment but I’m increasingly convinced that they are wrong; = is always safer."
lol?
 
It's been psychologically shown that you retain things better when there's swearing.
my guess is that this author is fully taking advantage of that :P
 
6:56 AM
lol
 
yeah that's one thing I never understood
<- vs. =
from what I've seen, = is used for default arguments to functions and <- is what is accepted as an assignment... this author doesn't agree!
 
I'm clearly not qualified to judge :)
 
oh :D no problem. just rambling.
oh, speaking of which, what are you working on with your PhD? What's your dissertation about if you don't mind me asking?
 
oh, one stackoverflow question. When someone asks a non question of the form: "Write me code that does X, Y, Z, A2, B4, ..."
ignore? flag?
right now I'm doing something with stock buyback I've parsed from SEC filings
stock buyback data
 
(1) Yeah flag. They used to have an option that was specifically for "give me teh codez"
 
7:00 AM
I'd like to do some stuff with startups but the problem seems to be: (1) no one has systematic data and (2) everything is endogenous
 
but the accepted practice is to flag as off-topic -> Why isn't this code working?
 
ahh I see... interesting!
@Mikhail_Sam привет!
 
The big challenge of empirical economics is that, compared to most sciences, you don't get to run your own experiments
 
for sure.
that must be very frustrating.
 
7:01 AM
And so giving some statistical correlation a causal interpretation becomes highly problematic
 
Seems to me R is popular with people not particularly into engineering, math, nor programming - though might just be my perception. It seems to be nice for ANOVA and other things typical in social sciences and such
 
Hi all. And @rayryeng привет! неужели человек с ником rayryENG знает русский?)
 
lol no I don't speak Russian. I just know some basic words.
@mikkola People that I know use R are mostly data scientists or pure scientists.
 
All kinds of people in econ use Stata
 
yeah Stata is what I see them use.
 
7:03 AM
ahah yyyep thou hast brought me astray
 
@Mikhail_Sam :D Прости
 
which is great if you have a problem which Stata has built in functions to handle
 
waitwait @rayryeng but I can fight my curiosity: Do you use google translate to post letters like П?
*can't
 
ah no. I'm on Mac OS. There are shortcuts I use that can produce those characters
 
I've just used translit.net whenever I feel like goofing around with cyrillics
 
7:08 AM
aha, cool link!
@Adriaan I brought some new peeps here :D
BTW, the Maple Leafs are sucking this season. I've stopped watching.
 
@rayryeng oh boi.
@rayryeng as is Luleå, I'm still watching :P
 
oh :D
that's the difference between a devoted fan and a "bandwagon jumper"
 
"bored student"
:D
 
:D haha
 
o are you hockey fans?
 
7:19 AM
I used to be.
I stopped watching a few years ago
 
Leafs did shut out the Oilers last night!
 
when my team... who had a 4 goal lead... suddenly lost it in overtime
 
looks like it is NHL?
 
Did they? I wasn't paying attention lol
Yes NHL.
@Adriaan watches all of the leagues.
 
SHL!
 
7:20 AM
I should start watching KHL
 
@rayryeng Bullshit :P I'm not watching hockey at 2 in the morning :P
 
SHL??
 
SHL/CHL that's it
 
what is this?
 
Swedish Hockey League.
 
7:20 AM
aaaa
 
Svensk Hockey Ligan :(
 
@Adriaan but you said you were a bored student!
 
because we have our own legue now so not so much attention to NHL
 
I am, does not mean I have time to stay up from 02:00-04:00 :P
 
:D
 
7:21 AM
nut i have to say NHL level is the greatest :)
 
besides, I had to watch Mark Selby beat Jamie Jameson last night, that took until 01:15 as well :P
 
:D. Is there a way for you to record it someway?... watch it the next day?
 
I could, but I'm not interested in the NHL. All they do is buy up our best players :P
 
:D
 
the only reason I am into hockey was because it was the only past-time, both watching Luleå and playing self, whilst living there
NHL is fun to watch, but since I'm no particular fan of a certain team I'm not wasting my sleep on it
 
7:25 AM
I thought you liked watching Lundqvist!
 
I do.
Rangers are only thrid though
and Im still not staying up for him, even though he has a great moustache
We've got our own great goalie, was voted best of the league last year ^^
 
:D
 
7:37 AM
man, even our news is spending 4 minutes on some overpaid basketball player
no-one here watches basketball...
@rayryeng Hey, I noticed you marked this question as a duplicate but the one that you linked doesn't explain how to used matrices as arguments. Would you know how to do that in matlab or where it was answered? — The Enigma 5 mins ago
@rayryeng
 
Hi all :)
 
Hi @BillBokeey
 
7:52 AM
How are you all doing today?
 
Let me have my tea/coffee first, then I'll tell you ;)
 
Huehue
 
@Adriaan why is that rude? :P
@BillBokeey fatigué. C'est presque 0300 h.
Je dois me coucher parce que je dois me reveiller à 0800 h. yuck.
 
@rayryeng di I hear "Kosher"? Very good - you're on the right track ;)
 
So here I am guessing whether @rayryeng is into languages a lot or just adept at using online translators
 
8:06 AM
@mikkola - he's Canadian, thus speaketh that language
 
Well that makes sense
 
lmao.
I minored in French in university. It is my second language.
@Dev-iL I could never get used to Kosher... it tastes... weird.
@mikkola I only know a few words in Russian... just hello, goodbye, how are you - that sort of thing.
 
@rayryeng yeah okay. Same for me, took one basic course a few years back but nowadays I'm just able to (slowly) read the big block letters and say "I don't speak Russian very well" and similar phrases.
 
@rayryeng It's just the same only w/o pork
 
@Dev-iL oh is it?
@mikkola :D
 
8:12 AM
@rayryeng well there obviously is more to it, but that's pretty much the final result
(other stuff include rules where this or that food has to have a Jewish person participate in its making, or when you kill the cow you need to do it in a specific way.... but at the end of the day it's just the same cow)
 
ah yes. I've heard of that.
 
@raryeng : I know the struggle, I downloaded the extended version of LOTR 3 at 10pm yesterday, went to bed at 3am to wake up at 7.30 :D
 
:D
@BillBokeey I bought the whole extended trilogy on Blu-ray
 
You fool!
I wouldn't sleep for a whole week if I were to do that :D
 
yes... I am such a fool lol
 
8:25 AM
Damn I'm so happy, by the end of the week i'll finally have finished rewriting the whole code that was given to me & do the benchmarks to see how much calc time I saved :)
 
@BillBokeey I was planning to get the extended Hobbit 3, and then I didn't
@BillBokeey turns out it ran worse...?
 
@Dev-iL Didn't see the extended version of Hobbit 3 yet
@Dev-iL Still can't test, although I benchmarked some parts of it already and it seems like i'll be able to spare something between 25 and 40%
That should give you an estimation of how bad the code was :D
 
@BillBokeey 13G The.Hobbit.The.Battle.of.the.Five.Armies.2014.EXTENDED.1080p.BluRay.X264-AMIABLE‌​.mkv ;)
 
@Dev-iL wow that's pretty huge :o
 
There's also 720 and BRRip, but I don't watch those
 
8:30 AM
wow... damn... was hoping to answer this question lol. OP deleted it just now
I tried to answer with:
>> mat
couldn't do it. minimum I need is 30 characters. lol
Here for those > 10K rep
 
Haha :) SO code golfing
 
@MatthewGunn perfect example of a good question to flag
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Q: Forecast with Matlab Simulink

Felix i need to design a forecast for the average load of a certain consumer within a quater hour. My time increments of the Simulink model are seconds. So what i want to do is to forecast the average power of current quater hour. The model should combine past measured load values of the quater hour as...

@Mikhail_Sam's comment is perfect... but I wanted to add something
Would you like some corn flakes with your Simulink model? — rayryeng 57 secs ago
 
@rayryeng for short answers, check this out math.stackexchange.com/questions/74347/…
 
yeah that W is very clever lol
 
8:52 AM
wow! I got inbox message at SO about chat reply! I didn't know it works this way :)
 
haha it does
and everytime someone uses @and I get summoned (now Andreas will)
because @Mikh does de job :P
 
@rayryeng How come that user has only 1 rep?
 
wow!
but wait
 
@Dev-iL his account got suspended
 
if we have in chat @AnderBiguri and @AndrasDeak and I want to use @And who will replyed? ))
 
8:55 AM
The person you spoke the most recently to
 
both where for me in there
who is the 1rep user?
 
oh
the one of the W
 
8:58 AM
I got it right away that answer.
Some people didn't get it as you saw in the comment slol
 
New show came out, its synopsis: "Bored and unhappy as the Lord of Hell, Lucifer has retired to L.A., where he owns a nightclub."
 
and what show is this?
 
WAT?
 
I KNOW
"Ander Biguri: Eater of Pork - Hater of Kosher"
 

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