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Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down - BY ELIEZER YUDKOWSKY MARCH 29, 2023 6:01 PM EDT
> "If somebody builds a too-powerful AI, under present conditions, I expect that every single member of the human species and all biological life on Earth dies shortly thereafter."
Eliezer Shlomo Yudkowsky (born September 11, 1979) is an American decision theory and artificial intelligence (AI) researcher and writer, best known for popularizing the idea of friendly artificial intelligence. He is a co-founder and research fellow at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI), a private research nonprofit based in Berkeley, California. His work on the prospect of a runaway intelligence explosion was an influence on Nick Bostrom's Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies. == Work in artificial intelligence safety == === Goal learning and incentives in software... ===
 
5:26 AM
Yes, sure, because it threaten many super high paid occupation like doctors, lawyers?
Its microsoft chance to back to tech leader, why somebody hates it
 
5:50 AM
According to him, not because it threatens highly-paid occupations, but because it does not care about humans. AI's growth will require resources, and humans will get in the way, beause they consume the same resources.
 
6:04 AM
Has a point. If anything, the present situation shows that the people who develop AI are 1. not actually competent to release them into "the wild". See how fast people come up with creative ways to misuse them. 2. also not up to ethically and responsibly develop the AI anyway. From questionable practices when sourcing data to rather questionable decisions for how it's used. 3. "debugging" these systems mostly impossible. Understanding and fixing them is something left in the background.
Great setup for a disaster.
And don't get me wrong, I'm super excited about AI. In uni, I got all the AI courses I could because I was really into it. Fast forward to now and my expectations were severely tempered. And not by AI, either. It's not the tool that's to blame - the developers and the companies that choose to go after the current trend of ML and vague AI-ish tech to inject some more buzzwords into their product are squarely to blame.
 
I'm afraid that efforts are underway in Russia to make such AI text engines, in order to leave comments on forums and news websites, posing as real persons, and peddling pro-Putin views.
 
6:32 AM
And I don't see a way to stop this. Putin and his oligarchs have enough cash to place data centers under mountains, where no bomb will reach them.
 
Good moaning
 
7:16 AM
> For that same groan doth put this in my mind,
My grief lies onward, and my joy behind.
 
 
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8:47 AM
[Captain Obvious] Law firms are not concerned about AI
[Captain Obvious] And the likes of ChatGPT and etc
[Captain Obvious] Rather, they can actually help with some of the grunt work that associates (low tier staff) would normally be doing
 
just bring back the carriages already. Cars already ruined the world.
 
9:23 AM
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Word of the day: sulky
 
9:47 AM
with entity framework aspnet identity, how can I remove the personal details, I can set UserName, NormalizedEmail, Email and PhoneNumber all to an empty string fine for multiple users, but when I try to set an empty string for NormalizedUserName for a second person it fails a duplicate constraint
 
 
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11:16 AM
@WhatsThePoint I guess NormalizedUserName is the primary key aka the ID of a user, so you can't just remove it. If you want to anonymise it, just count up an integer or use a GUID or something.
 
I discovered the deleteaysnc, didn't actually need to keep any other data related to the account
 
Ah perfect, completely deleting stuff is so much easer and nicer than trying to anonymise stuff^^
 
yeah I was thinking I needed to keep referential links but I didn't need to
 
12:12 PM
AutoMapper vs JsonConvert.Deserialize<Target>(JsonConvert.Serialize(dto)) with [JsonProperty] annotations?
 
Both valid, JSON more reliable?
 
AutoMapper might be more reliable because the mappings actually directly point to mapped properties instead of using strings.
Actually scrap that I'm mapping a DataSet to a real type there are no real properties there.
 
AutoMapper is made for that
 
Does AutoMapper handle DataSets well? Haven't even tried.
 
DataSets or DataTables?
 
12:22 PM
DataSet containing multiple DataTables
 
Might want to look here
 
[Captain Obvious] Don't do the json ser/deser, it's so slow
[Captain Obvious] Even a less slow json lib will still be slow
 
Using the json hack was just easier in the beginning as I just threw the dataset out as object from the endpoint and wrote down my class from that
 
@Squirrelkiller I used generated data sets. Built from xyDataSet.xsd
those have xyDataSet.zwRow
which have the properties generated for it
TypedDataSetGenerator generated them
 
@Darj This one does look ok actually, will definitely try that before building a whole mapper config
 
12:27 PM
[Captain Obvious] I have done something along those lines before to do a deep clone though
 
@ntohl Oh the DataSet is already strongly typed
 
@Squirrelkiller that means the rows inside are strongly typed classes derived from DataRow?
 
Just for some reason that team keeps putting their internal objects into datasets to return them instead of returning the actual objects
 
There's the root cause
 
@ntohl Ah no, the values in the datarows are strongly typed. Didn't know it would actually generate child classes of datarow :D
@Darj Absolutely, but we can't even get that team to build some unit tests for their lib so I'm reluctant to ask them to change anything.
 
12:30 PM
Ah, the always-present no-tests-because-no-budget problem
I bet they're working in Agile/Scrum (Waterfall, ekhem) environment
 
Correct, we are their testing stage. One of them actually checked out our application to test new versions of the lib because we were pissed they gave us a broken lib too many times.
They do however have shorter sprints than us and deliver fixes quickly, so that's nice
 
Quickly doesn't always mean better
 
1:45 PM
@Darj ...multiple times we've been asked to turn around a feature quick. After a few rather stressful and hectic such features we estimated a new one higher because the whole code was a mess after the previous ones. Which prompted questions like:
"But why is this harder now?"
"Because the code is a mess. We need more time to integrate things"
"But didn't *you* code it? Why didn't you just make it good to begin with?"
"Because we were given a hard deadline **in the middle of the sprint** to deliver. Moreover, we have **repeatedly** asked for extra time to refactor things but we were always told "there is no time now" which leads to this. You want things done fast, you get fast. Right now the fastest we can do for adding a button is 8 hours. Take it or leave it."
And yeah, you're supposed to be adding refactoring into estimations but when it's basically "Spring starts Monday, this needs to be released by Friday. It's non-negotiable" we do what we can. Even if it then turns out that nobody even looks at the released system on Friday. Or all of the next week. Or who knows when they actually start using the feature. Some manager up the chain needed to show results to their manager. Numbers needed to be shuffled. For no real good reason.
 
2:36 PM
Hopefully I haven't had such questions ever and by default I overestimate a task
 
3:09 PM
Have a great weekend, folks!
 
@Darj But it's Monday?!
(did I give you a heart attack for a moment there?)
 
[Darj] NO SUCH THING AS MONDAY
[Darj] at least for the next two days 😄
 
 
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11:34 PM
these front end frameworks are a pain for backend devs.
 
why would they care? they are backend
have a swagger contract, and you don't care
 
im the front end dev now lol
and i waaaas the backend.
 

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