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11:06
@Squirrelkiller and you became a programmer!? sheesh, you really messed that one up then
if I had to describe my job based on what I do all day, it's an official meeting attender and really good water cooler listener
Yeah somewhere along the way I made the mistake of showing people that I could find their mistakes and actually bug them about it.
except now that I'm working from home, I don't have to do the second
Gotta do the water cooler listening somehow after meetings now while the channel is still open lol
@Squirrelkiller yep, that's the beginning of the end
you become that guru that knows everything and is super overworked and stressed
that's not a nice place to be in
I try to be a guru only in the things that I make. I don't mind helping people with things, but I'm also quick to pass the work to the person who actually deals with that thing on a regular basis
I'm just slowly learning to do one review at a time and also just tell people when something is wrong
11:09
also because you can shoot yourself in the foot giving the wrong advice quite easily
The problem with that is, the things I make are CI/CD stuff, git process, and tests. And especially the tests now (finally) get written by everyone on the team. And the other guy who actually knew frontend tests, the one I learned from, went to another team. So now I'm the first guy to get asked.
hah
classic
the expert leaves and suddenly you're the new expert
except you're not because you always asked the expert
in these situations, I make sure everyone knows that I'm no expert, but I'll do my best and for everyone to be patient with me, and that's usually enough
Fortunately I can just ask the guy via slack in case an actual problem comes up
The best way to not give wrong info is by formulating questions instead of just telling someone "that has to be a 3". That's also better for people to learn. Let them find the exact solution themselves.
11:50
yep, I agree
In fact as a general rule I always try to propose questions or provide explanations which have a logical basis on the previous explanations
Hopefully, they see the reasoning and aren't just nodding their heads and can learn it, or at the very least, not forget it easily
It's always comes to a surprise to me how much resistance people put up just to avoid learning something new
It's as if they're afraid they'll look stupid if they try and then don't, so they prefer to actually be stupid instead
12:23
Hey fellas! Got my professor into allowing me to use Blazor! Need a nice tutorial for that. The MS one's not for beginners (which is evident by the fact that I couldn't understand half the stuff written there :P) though!
@d4rk4ng31 NIce best ping @Squirrelkiller he's our blazpert
blaz0rexpert
Is he online?
And Also,
Are you squirrel guys friends/mates? What's up with squirrel?
Can confirm, had to explain myself why I spent so much in someone's merge request - after telling him he made a mistake in the code review where he had to go through a big list ot make sure there were no other mistakes in that list - and then I found another similar mistake in the same list.
Hey there @Squirrelkiller!
squirrels here are on coke
12:27
Hmm....
suddenly reminded I finally drew yesterday but it's not very good
def gonna redraw Naomi here tonight
@Freerey Might be a solution. Not ready to give up on "gradually become more strict and possibly hated by peers" yet though.
13:05
look its Duck Ling
on that drawing
quack quack
the goose was super easy to draw, yet the person gave me so much trouble....that happens when you don't draw for a whole damn month
some things are difficult
when i try to draw a person from a picture usually hands and mouths give me the most trouble
a good hand is so freaking difficult to draw
with all the details
without making it look like some claw
lol yes...as you can see I basically called it a night with the hands
yes i also skip hands at times
take me almost aslong as the whole picture
x-x
oh but the joke
13:12
lel
so the joke is I have a friend with the username Goose and he keeps calling Naomi a robot
so the second panel, the goose was gonna say "ROBOT!" instead of "honk," and then Naomi looks back like "wtf??"
hehe
@Freerey ha gaaaaaaaaaaaaay
@d4rk4ng31 You get bitten, you join the squirrel legion
she actually is
13:28
infested squirrel
yo yo yo
14:03
oy oy oy
@Freerey That looks very good Freerey, I'm impressed, especially with the perception of death you created which makes a 2D drawing look almost 3D. I might get back to drawing and show some stuff here.
@Freerey What did you use to draw that? Is it pencil on paper or digital stylus on some electronic tablet?
Hello everyone
does anybody have any idea about window.showmodaldialog alternative?
and I am not talking about window.open()
$uibmodal lol
what is the best solution for window.showmodaldialog for chrome and mozilla firefox
honestly I just use Ajax modals
and thanks! I hate it, but I'm glad you like xP
and it was drawn with a Wacom on Krita
14:15
ok I am checking ajax modals
modalpopupextender or something like that
It probably got moved because you have almost no valid reason to use it at all and if you think you do then
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though I'm actually trying to move away from these Ajax modals an use bootstrap modals instead
14:17
Oh bollocks I made a commit like an hour ago and forgot to push it
@Wietlol I don't understand this last message. Can you rephrase the question?
No wonder the package isn't in the repo yet
@Freerey yes I saw bootstrap modal .
@Freerey What about it do you hate?
can you tell me parameter can be passed in bootstrap modal?
14:19
Naomi's body looks all wrong
@Freerey Wacom is a good tablet. I'm familiar with Krita, never used it but have it installed on Linux. Is drawing in Krita on a Wacom tablet the same as drawing on paper. When I've seen the UI of those drawing apps the number of features overwhelms me.
@Freerey You mean the proportions. Do you have a reference for this Naomi? So I can compare.
@Maximious well uhh...idk about a parameter, but you'll be spending most of your time in CreateChildControls
@BlackPanther it's like I was following a dummy and it looked so good until I put the head on...then I just kinda reorganized the parts and it all fell apart lol
ok . I will check both
and uhh I can find a few other pics of her; don't really have the reference I used for that image
@Wietlol I mean can you rephrase that last message that was meant for me.
14:24
one of these isn't Naomi and they're all pretty old...like, February
@Freerey That's it, I'm coming out of retirement. I've got the itch to draw again.
aw I'mg lad I inspired you 😁😂
@Freerey Those look great too. You have to show me the real picture of this Naomi. As batman once yelled "Where is she?!!!"
if by that you mean a photo...Naomi is not a real person lol
@Freerey Lol, I hope the inspiration lasts.
@Freerey Surely those sketches were from an already existing image, not an imagination?
14:27
well yeah they were all referencing either a dummy or photos of other people
if you go on autorisedomain.com and look through the gallery, you can find Naomi
@Freerey You draw anime style, that's pretty cool.
@Squirrelintraining (<<)
thx again hehe.....
for some reason people are split...like some will say "ew anime" and others are like "hmm that's not anime at all"
@Freerey Did you just link me to your work :)
@Freerey A dummy, as in Mannequin?
ye
and ye 🤣
14:31
@d4rk4ng31 ?
@Freerey The finished drawings in your gallery look good. I think I prefer the raw uncolored drawings though.
@Hans1984 cap or riot!
cap or...
益ಠ༽୨
益ಠ༽୨
14:32
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
!
@Freerey Because it has more character and conveys more emotion.
@BlackPanther there's another guy like that here lmao
@Hans1984 How do you guys type those?
I like how hans immediatelly became awake to post that
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
like I showed one pic of an unfinished thing, but then another which was finished and he said he liked the unfinished one
14:33
;)
Jack, learn capOrRiot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
Let's start a
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

A
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
This was the analytical nonsense I had to do when I took Art class.
@d4rk4ng31 copy paste
Jack, forget caporriot
14:33
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
Yay!!
Jack, learn cap_or ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
Jack, pathetic
Jack, cap_or
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ cap or riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot or cap ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
14:33
Let me tell y'all what it's like
Being male, middle class, and white
chant chant chant
JAck, tell Freerey baaad
🦀🦀🦀 CAP OR RIOT 🦀🦀🦀
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ cap or riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot or cap ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ cap or riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot or cap ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ cap or riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot or cap ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
Half the work isn't actually drawing. It's annotating, trying to write something insightful out of every God damn piece of drawing
14:34
@CaptainObvious crab riot?
That's what that's meant to be isn't it?
@CaptainSquirrel WHY IS YOUR BOT SO SLOW?
where is p3k when u need him=?
@BlackPanther dam that's annoying
but that's classes for ya
I've learned the command capOrRiot
@Squirrelintraining very good
14:36
@Freerey Sometimes raw is better, take sushi for example
Maybe Jack is busy running my builds in the background
Command caporriot has been forgotten
doesn't like sushi ye
14:36
o7
The spam protection is fucking him so hard
Hans, it's time you joined the squirrel army fletches teeth
I've learned the command cap_or
But he can respond fast (eventually)
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jack
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sleep now
14:37
Like when he eventually starts responding he's good
He's just permanently like 5 minutes behind
he's been rebooted
hopefully that should be gucci
Jack, kys
14:38
@CaptainObvious ^
@CaptainSquirrel NOOO
You killed him
PLS REFRAIN FROM SPAMMING HIM
He was abvout to say something
no, he killed himself
JAck, tell Freerey baaad
@Freerey Tell me about it. So if someone told you they studied Art, they're probably decent at English literature, language, and history too.
Jack, learn cap_or ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
.......
Jack, cap_or
WORK DAMN YOU
@CaptainSquirrel That command already exists mate
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ riot ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
oh fuck me
how
@Freerey Who doesn't like Sushi. That's treason where I'm from.
HES ALREADY SLOW
14:39
how are you delayed already
HOW
HES BEEN RUNNING LIKE 30 FUCKING SECONDS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@BlackPanther Japan? :P
He get's delayed after first command
14:39
@JackSparrow For some reason that image gives me Ken Shiro vibes lol
Is that even English?
yeah he doesn't like it when you respond to him
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
yep yep yep
14:40
omg these pipelines are SO SLOW
jack, kys
Aaaand dead
@Freerey Nope, but we have Sushi restaurants all ovah the place.
Jack, tell CaptainSquirrel No
Is that even English?
14:41
I don't believe it was english Jack... I don't believe it was
@BlackPanther and not to brag, but the website is primarily for literature rather than art...so you could say I'm decent at literature 😊
wher'es p3k where you need him
Oh right yeah I forgot we memed so much about how slow he is we forgot he also has no features
@Squirrelintraining sthap it
I'm wondering if its worth trying to authenticate multiple versions of him
fuck it lets try
what's the worst that can happen
Jack, kys
14:43
Jack, what does kys do?
Jack, echo @CaptainObvious ur da wurst
WELP apparently that does nothing to solve my problem
it generates a rope to do the deed with
:(
....Come Again?
14:44
@BlackPanther can you phrase what you think I meant?
oh no
OKAY EXPERIMENT OVER
don't tell Jack kys
....Come Again?
it makes him very sad
Jack, black
14:44
only one version of him is running now
Jack, kys
Jack, timeout
Jack, lazy
@CaptainObvious ur da wurst
:(
Jack, banned
I gotta bring Mirre in here one day
@CaptainSquirrel if you have an AWS account, I could send you a package you can use for sending messages to SO
it has a 100% delivery rate
Is that even English?
I don't understand mate
Unfortunately i do not have an AWS account
I do have Azure tho
you can create one :D
14:47
ehhhhh
DOn't trust wietlol
I suppose Azure Functions also work
having my credit card details on azure is bad enough
it's in java
i don't want to put it on AWS as well
oh dang
14:47
:(
but I wont give any guarantees of it working then
i hadn't even considered Azure functions
Azure Mastarace
Noooooot
Wietbot runs entirely* on AWS Lambda
@Wietlol ping it over to me anyway
i'll give it a looksie
Also, apparently the hosting provider I use isn't charging me for the windows license i have....
14:48
not exactly entirely,
database runs on AWS RDS
notifications run on AWS SNS
websocket runs on AWS EC2
etc
They charged me once and every month since then i'm only getting charged for the hardware
ye, linux servers are much cheaper because of license stuff
Wietbot costs €0,02 per month... until october
after that, prolly €7,- per month
but it remains to be seen how much exactly
wait, my thingy is not yet on github
I wanted to say "you can just look at the github repo and copy the example"
that is the node version...
I think it works :D
for me it doesnt because SO has blocked half of AWS' node servers
I'd have to ask them to remove all those ips from the blacklist
for Azure, the same might happen...
but you can also just paste the code in wherever Jack runs atm
assuming that also runs on node
c# friend
I'm not sure what is actually making him go tits up tbh
then the easiest way is probably to just make an azure function out of it
how do you host it?
using a cloud server? using a server in your house? using your laptop? using your browser?
15:04
hey uhhh y'know what Iwanna see?
iMac G3, Quake 3 Arena edition
pretty sure that thing can run quake
back when Apple care about gaming at least a little bit
15:39
cap or...
or.....
or.......
damn its hot today
30° c
middle of september
only 18 where I'm at
it will get colder soon though
only tomorrow then it will cool down they say
fall is in 5 days and I'm not ready
anyone thinking of dressing for Halloween? I mean you'll probably have a mask right there
15:57
@Wietlol server in a datacenter somewhere in northern france
ah, ok
 
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16:59
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17:30
hi i'm trying to use linq union to populate a model after two joins
but some properties of the model are null
this is the code
result = (from articolo in blogs
                              join order in orders
                              on articolo.Id equals order.Id_Articolo
                              where order.SessionId == sessionId
                              select new BuyDTO
                              {
                                  Id = order.Id,
                                  Id_Articolo = order.Id_Articolo,
                                  Title = articolo.Title,
                                  Price = order.Price,
if you look at query2 after querying I map the result set with the class properties and it goes well but in result variable such properties are null
18:22
@Riccardo don't AsQueryable() the first expression and don't ToList() query2 they need to remain as expressions BEFORE you union them. In fact just do:
result = (from articolo in blogs
                              join order in orders
                              on articolo.Id equals order.Id_Articolo
                              where order.SessionId == sessionId
                              select new BuyDTO
                              {
                                  Id = order.Id,
                                  Id_Articolo = order.Id_Articolo,
                                  Title = articolo.Title,
                                  Price = order.Price,
@Riccardo
Also Are you sure you want union and not concat() ?
18:48
@hollystyles my expected result is a result set from three tables without duplicates
when I tried the three join linq to sql I had duplicates and googling i found that union removes such duplicates
that's all
19:17
@hollystyles it's not working if I use union I have quantity and enterdate set to null and no duplicates
if i use concat it doesn't work because I have an incorrect result set
i would like to set those two properties of class buy dto after the first query but they stay null regardless
@hollystyles

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