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2:00 PM
@V.7 What makes it for students? Is it an internal website for students at a specific school?
 
when i put bug spray on him
 
@V.7 rifle
rifles aim
so that is my choice for its name
 
V.7
wat
 
which of course I would never do
 
2:00 PM
I always make silly names
marketing loves it
 
V.7
At least, it's not stuspopor
 
oh, that name is even better
patented
 
V.7
spstudportal?
 
> stuspopor
 
a protein bar as dessert
mhhh
 
V.7
2:03 PM
Uh, too much calories
 
@V.7 sportingpupils
wait, no
sports.edu
 
@V.7 not if you work out like me
 
I have been given both a nice reusable water bottle and access to cold brew coffee on tap. The results are as predictable as they are disastrous.
 
edu.sports.cation
 
2:04 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan when did you start?
 
V.7
This system has multiple applications and one of them is sport
 
We thought you were kidnapped
or rather, moved to the Java room permanently
 
V.7
So, website must contain something related to its behaviour
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Last week, but then they flew me over to Zurich for new employee orientation.
 
Oh that sounds really cool
 
2:05 PM
@V.7 edu.<topic>.cation is a fine choice
 
Did you meet a squirrel or two?
I believe they are close to that place
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Do we have Zurich-based squirrels?
 
Wait I thought it was a German city
 
Nah, it was three days of a lot of information overload and then home.
Nope, Swiss.
They speak Swiss-German there, but still Swiss.
 
Seems like it's Swiss
Right
Did you rob a bank or 2?
I'm sure they have plenty of those
 
V.7
2:06 PM
@Wietlol what means *.cation?
application?
 
hope you bought some swiss chocolate
it's great
 
Ate some chocolate, had a nice cheese fondue dinner.
 
Oh cool
 
@V.7 edu..cation ?
 
@V.7 I think he means is as "edu<>cation" with the specific topic as an infix.
 
lol
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan sounds good
 
V.7
Oh, education ... -_-. Nice one.
 
edu.sports.cation
edu.bio.cation
edu.va.cation
edu.fire.nation.attacked
 
Guys, never go full Wietlol
 
embrace the fire.nation
 
mr5
2:15 PM
How did you restore your name wintol?
 
1 hour ago, by Héctor Álvarez
@Rob I... kind of... accidentally... changed my name... which is quite inconvenient :D
 
@mr5 I didnt :D
I am hector
since wietlol cannot change his name for the upcoming month, I decided to change my name instead
and now I am wietlol and he is hector
I mean... I am hector and hector is wietlol... and... you know
 
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together
 
mr5
We're all in this together
Once we know
That we are
We're all stars
And we see that
We're all in this together
And it shows
When we stand
Hand in hand
Make our dreams come true
 
*We're all in this together
Once we know
That we are
We're all stars
That song's really gay!~*
 
2:26 PM
@mr5 When in doubt, grovel to the mods.
 
mr5
@Wietlol fool me once, that is 1, fool me twice, that is 10
Why don't you run as a mod avnir?
You have a great sense of leadership. You can lead us all here I think? =p
 
it's not an election
 
mr5
Huh, iirc, it is
 
I will vote against avner
he can thank me later
:D
PONY!
 
mr5
You can lead us into working at Google also
Who doesn't want to work in Google?
@Wietlol vote against means you will vote for him right?
 
2:31 PM
...hmm... I dont want, there was far away from my home... different language... different culture...
 
mr5
@AlRey ur mum gay
 
which one?
 
mr5
ur dad lesbian
 
oh my, what happened?
 
"straight" men are lesbian
 
2:32 PM
@mr5 I will vote for him not being a mod, yes :D
@AlRey men cant be lesbian, because the definition of a lesbian is a homosexual woman
 
mr5
Off with Wietlol's head!!
@nyconing so you're afraid of working far away from your family?
 
@Wietlol What if the man identifies as a woman?
 
@Wietlol some kids in middle school I talked to said straight men are lesbian because they like women
 
I predict this line of discussion will lead somewhere unproductive rapidly.
 
so I'm just operating off their backwards logic
 
2:35 PM
@RoelvanUden then it isnt a man
 
>it
ooooooooooooooooooooooooh
 
mr5
Alrey started it
 
@AlRey some kids in my middle school were idiots...
(that does not necessarily exclude me)
(actually, it does... since "kids")
 
@Wietlol I mean so were the kids in mine...they thought I was gay because of my long hair and the fact that I didn't have a girlfriend til 10th grade
before I even started thinkinga bout sexuality
 
kids brains are not fully developed thats why they talk gibberish
 
2:36 PM
@mr5 Don't have the time or burning need to moderate hundreds of questions and answers.
@RoelvanUden Then she's not a man, she's a woman.
 
mr5
@Hans1984 oh so I'm still a kid
 
yeah some ppls brain never reach the final stage
;=)
 
you just havent evolved yet, mr5
some people evolve by age
 
mr5
When I talk irl, all words coming from my mouth are pure gibberish that's why nobody takes me seriously
 
others need special stones for example
have you tried a moon stone?
that one works on so many of 'em
 
2:38 PM
hard to tell... at the time... I need some time to decide if I have a chance to go working at other country
 
mr5
What are we supposed to do with those stones wiet? Slam it to our heads?
 
I don't want to work at Google
 
@mr5 I actually dont know
 
mr5
Even if they offer you $200k/yr?
 
I am a special boi, I do not evolve, I was already fully evolved when I was born
 
2:43 PM
Yeah, it's not about money
 
mr5
@Wietlol r u also articulate irl?
@DKDhilip have u seen any video how do they work there?
 
I don't want to work at Google, either.
 
I have no clue what you mean with that...
 
mr5
Eww
 
$200k/yr , then my working target will be super stressful, or outside of my capability
 
2:44 PM
@mr5 Too much YouTube is no good lol
 
Google got rid of "don't be evil" for a reason
 
I have watched their videos, still I don't want to work for them
 
mr5
I've seen a lot of videos from employees of Google. They have a lot of slacking there. It's one of the reason I also want to work there
 
I just want to work on software for 8h and then go home. No corporate cringy bullshit required. No 'snack times with colleagues'. No fucking Gym. No quarterly evaluations from managers, peers, self-evaluations, etc.
 
I want to make things, and I want to own my own things too
 
2:47 PM
Aka fuck Google. I don't want to be there for 12 hours because I'm forced to slack off for 4 of them.
 
@RoelvanUden how about the sword fights?
 
Check the timestamps of those 'fun and positive working at Google videos'. Those people are often 10-12h there.
 
user47589
What's going on in here
 
Don't they have lives? Well, no. Because they don't want you to.
They want you to live there!
/rant
 
@Amy A LOT
 
mr5
2:49 PM
@Wietlol if you talk, do you use a lot of descriptive words and phrases to express your thoughts? And, do you always find yourself satisfied with the words you have delivered to your audiences?
 
@Amy to sum it up
there was an imposter
we did some low level coding
avner wants C++ tutorials for super-but-not-really-super advanced people
google is evil
men != women
edu.fire.nation.attacked is a great website name
dynamic != Dictionary<String, Object>
oh, and I am old
 
mr5
And the impostor was wietlol. Trust--
 
@mr5 my decisions for explanatory sentences often include not-entirely-unnecessary words to make the resulting statement a more unambiguous one, to avoid any undesired confusion
 
mr5
@RoelvanUden how are you so sure that's what the employees of Google feels?
 
2:54 PM
@mr5 I'm not saying that there aren't people happy doing long times at work and spending their time at bullshit. I'm just saying I'm not one of those people.
 
yeah it fuckng sucks
 
@V.7 now I understand what Xcode means
it's obscure code
 
mr5
Well, if that be the case, maybe an experienced of working there for at least a year would be enough for me since I also don't like working of an extended amount of time
 
V.7
Seems right ;D
 
2:57 PM
Im exciting about Samsung Unpacked event in 5hours later
 
mr5
Xcode are maintained by interns
 
Galaxy S20 series
And Galaxy Flip
 
I flip table
Windows too maintained by bunch of interns...
 
While Huawei is down these time, Samsung are expected to even up the odds in full capable
This time might be a only chance that Samsung can back to the table
 
mr5
Android of Samsung is a big pile of bloatware
 
3:04 PM
Samsung bad UX
 
@DKDhilip You should see Nokia :3
 
mr5
It looks fast because of their hardware. Calibrate down the hardware specs and you'll see how slow it has become
 
@RoelvanUden lol
 
@mr5 Same as Apple, if Apple phone has some low/mid end processor, it ends up super slow
 
They use powerful hardware to mask their software failure
 
3:08 PM
You might want to follow Huawei new OS (still android), they claim it has 3x faster than google stock
 
mr5
Imagine, you have the main branch of Linux and you can see all of the branches from different major OS now: OSX, Android (Samsung, Huawei), Ubuntu, ... (I run out of ideas)
 
I'm looking forward to Linux phones.
 
how about... Wietlux?
 
mr5
bare OS
 
it is ze greatest
 
mr5
3:10 PM
I'm imagining the UI would suck also
 
splits up of them, mobile OS are different concept
 
I will make OS great again
 
Hongmeng OS :S
 
mr5
@Wietlol disgusting
 
Using the same kernel for desktop as mobile just makes sense. I think Librem's PureOS runs on both deskop and mobile when they release. It's good to share much.
 
3:11 PM
Linux mobile OS? plasma-mobile.org
 
anyone remember Ubuntu for Phone?
 
Android are linux as kernel if you say that
 
how about FirefoxOS?
 
Except Android has butchered everything and ensures you can't just use an old phone and push an open source os on it.
 
3:13 PM
I've tried Ubuntu on old Nexus 10 tablet
Too buggy
 
V.7
What about Xiaomi?
 
I'm using XiaoMi
 
mr5
I was a subscriber of this kid from YouTube who have made his own OS from scratch (not even Linux based) and hardwares he assembled himself. The OS is called L-OS. He ported it to an Android device as soon as he created the memory management layer. It only last for 5 years and he got exhausted.
 
@AlRey what about FireNationOS?
 
Shitty Mi UI
 
3:14 PM
@mr5 you could also try Temple-OS
 
Temple OS, LothOS, SparrowOS
 
user47589
You should use PonyOS. It's powered by friendship
 
LoseThos*
 
mr5
Powered by Amy
 
user47589
On PonyOS, all apps coexist in harmony.
 
3:17 PM
HolyC programming language
 
mr5
I thought you said coexist in memory. That'd be a security of worms
 
+1 for PonyOS
 
@Wietlol you mean the Amazon phone OS?
 
user47589
Apps are written in PonyLang
 
no, I mean the FireNationOS
 
user47589
3:18 PM
Which is actually real, so
 
that's not a thing
 
@Amy how do you write in PonyLang?
 
*referring to FireNationOS
 
with butterflies?
 
user47589
@Wietlol it's a real language.
 
V.7
3:19 PM
Phone for 599$
 
those icons look like iOS 6
 
@V.7 Purism looks really good. I'm waiting for it to mature a little more.
 
V.7
3GB RAM?
 
That's fine?
 
3:21 PM
imagine if Gentoo got on a phone
Stallman would be so conflicted
 
mr5
@V.7 that looks promising
 
V.7
3GB RAM for 599$ ... for me this looks too pricey
Minimum 8GB
 
mr5
Let's just hope Huawei and other unofficial app stores succeeds in their rally
 
WietStore
 
NycoStore
 
3:26 PM
@V.7 You're not the target audience.
@V.7 Also, it's 750$
 
V.7
Also, it might have no option to use nice apps like purchased, but sideloaded
 
@V.7 The whole point of the thing is to have a completely open-source mainline Linux environment with all the benefits that come from that. All the hardware has kill switches, so you can kill camera/gps/microphone and so forth to ensure nothing can use them to spy on you. Everything is sandboxed and isolated. Hooking up a screen and keyboard gives you a desktop environment. This is a phone for a security-minded person that likes Linux and privacy.
 
Imagine if mobile phones are low powered thin-client where OS streamed remotely by a data center...
 
Yes, it's expensive, but let's not pretend there's no price for giving all your data to Google/Apple.
 
@DKDhilip thats more difficult to scale up
 
3:33 PM
Why the bloody hell do you need 8GB minimum ram in a phone
 
@V.7 Even cellular, which is ALWAYS a binary blob, runs on it's own separate hardware and does NOT have access to the actual phone. That alone is quite an accomplishment.
 
@Wietlol Quite easy actually, just partition by each user
 
to make a mobile server -- obviously
 
because it costs 600$?
 
That's the whole point of Purism.
 
3:35 PM
I mean why do you need to waste 600 bucks on a phone
 
@DKDhilip ye... no
 
@Wietlol Why not, 64bit integer shards are good enough, then just do replication for high availability
 
still not good enough
connection and power have to scale massively
 
Infrastructures could be scaled independently
The end result is easy to control by central government
 
hi, how can you extract parameters from Url if its localhost/xxx/123 where 123 is the value of xxx
 
3:40 PM
bye
\o
 
Plus, users would not need to change their actual phone until it is broken
 
broke it intentionally
 
Once you got a new phone replacement, your data is still there for access
You could switch OS/environment anytime you want too
Like VM
 
@DKDhilip And that;s why
 
@tahtoh your web service framework probably has a solution for that
 
3:44 PM
@CaptainObvious This is a nice feature
 
nononno
 
Or you opt for full OS encryption
 
Ah yes, encryption controlled by 3rd party entites
 
entire storage on android are encrypted
 
Just what everyone likes
 
3:46 PM
nodejs mobile?
Why not get a pinephone at that point
 
J. Doe?
 
M.Doe
 
P.Toe
 
Man Doe
 
John Doe
 
3:47 PM
Miss Doe?
 
@DKDhilip In what world is that a 'nice feature'?
 
Dr. Doe
 
@RoelvanUden Socialist states :P
 
If u want a security phone
look into pinephone @V.7@RoelvanUden
 
3:48 PM
@M.Doe Pinephone seems nice, but Purism is way better in features for a security phone.
 
getting your hands on one rn is kinda hard tho NGL
 
Having our phones somewhat monitored by the goverment sounds cool, until the government become the terrorists
 
I'm waiting for the consumer-batch of pinephone :P
 
m2
went to fosdem to try and get one
did not work out :'(
 
mmm they'll come eventually
 
3:49 PM
When your government become the terrorist, then you also considered as part of them...
 
for now I'm selling my soul to the chinese government and google
 
i'm trying to cut google out of my life
its hard af
 
"Oh but if everyone is monitored, then nobody can plan a terrorist attack!" as if terrorists wouldn't know better themselves
 
still looking for an alternative to gmail
 
3:50 PM
try cutting out the big five lol
 
it sucks that I have a oneplus
 
google, amazon, facebook, microsoft and apple --> good luck
 
have to use RD to remove google shit
 
The best way to make this work is have so many people have your information that your value as a data unit is zero
The same idea as Monty Burns having so many diseases that none of them can kill him because they stop each other.
But with data
 
Hector
to put it blunt
what pile of crock did you just utter
 
3:52 PM
@Wietlol That article is pretty great, getting a kick out of it
 
Xiaomi's mascot is a communist bunny
 
it is mostly funny, but there are a few stages between fully functional and tradditional OO
I dont know anyone that uses tradditional OO to write programs
 
I get it now
thanks @HéctorÁlvarez
did not mean to be rude
 
@Wietlol Operations orchestration?
 
I use a lot of functional things in my code, but C# doesn't have some features that can make things easy.
Having to use visitor to implement sum types works, but it's definitely a lot more verbose.
 

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