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01:43
@IvanG #region as addition, if you might not know.
mr5
mr5
02:09
I wish VS do this too
02:32
Zoom out that far?
it doesn't, I never tried, xaml does
mr5
mr5
It's from Xcode. Side scroller with preview
And the coolest thing is the region names have a larger font sizes
V.7
V.7
03:10
Minimap? VS has that. Or ... what are you about?
mr5
mr5
I mean VS for Mac
@DKDhilip wth
they charge 2.50 for cny then better dont
2.50 per receipt = they dont earn much but customer may feel not happy
mr5
mr5
CNY? Chinese Yuan?
03:42
chinese new year
mr5
mr5
oh
lol
:48498279 yeah. why would you pay the holiday
 
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06:16
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
mr5
mr5
06:31
in Android, Jan 30 at 7:29, by W0MP3R
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!! :D
@Squirrelintraining so tell me, are you related to w0mper?
06:47
hi every one
07:06
@mr5 very goood morning
07:19
Gooood moorniiiing CeeeShaaaarp! What new frameworks and libraries have you tried lately?
I'm still building my blazor SPA and are losing my mind on SignalR utilization!
(Because it doesn't work with wasm yet)
@nyconing Story:
https://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=1891434
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2875385479150014&set=a.234149473273641&type=3
@mr5 No
He's a colne
@Squirrelkiller SignalR brings back bad feelings in me but I can't tell you why :/
07:36
Strange. Once you learn how to build that stuff it seems quite nice.
I bought a new game called mindustry
it's sort of a hybrid tower defense + factorio
pretty decent for its price
I like SignalR.
Also, good morning.
you have to mine resources and combine them in order to research more advanced things
build better defenses, etc
mr5
mr5
morning (although I don't actually greet irl)
also the turrets require ammo, so you've got to provide them a steady supply
mr5
mr5
07:42
@Squirrelintraining colne?
07:52
Morning
yo
I'm having a sad time with AWS
the free tier allows me to run machines for 1 month
so this is trash
@HéctorÁlvarez bitcoin time baby
@HéctorÁlvarez Get your company to pay you/for it
@RoelvanUden That's what I'm trying to do
apparently there is some group that may not get 100% paid subscription, but they do get some huge discounts
I can deal with 5 euros per month
@Neil I don't see how Bitcoin would help
this is assuming the price for IO is lower than than the value of the coin
08:03
@HéctorÁlvarez Profit ???? Profit!
also I was joking. I have no doubts in my mind that it wouldn't be cost effective
How do Bitcoin handle network partition (aka split-brain)?
I will try Azure and see what I can do
But the free AWS is clearly a very short demo
@DKDhilip you give each server a piece to calculate
then you just assemble it and submit it
08:16
@Neil Let's say the network is being cut off from the rest of the world by the government (a region), and Bitcoin still continue accepting transactions within the disconnected region and also rest of the world, then the government decided to restore the network connectivity, what will happen to accepted transactions?
@DKDhilip you mean what happens if there's a discrepancy for bitcoin chains?
no idea honestly
dont blame government for your network down
I suppose the one that submitted first becomes the "correct" chain
RIP Madara. Yet another great person leaves...
link?
08:17
Bear with me, I just read the resign statement.
@nyconing Starboard
@Neil Yeah, I guess the Bitcoin network keeps the longest chain, the shorter version will be gone...
@DKDhilip no, I didn't say longest, I said the first
because if you used length as a metric, then someone could say, "wait, don't collapse the chain yet.. I have one more to submit"
whereas if you go with timing as the metric, there can be no doubt
@Neil But how do you decide which is "first" in the case of split-brain?
@DKDhilip as in the one submitted first.. suppose you have one chain split via network firewall
chain A receives submission first followed by chain B
when the firewall is lifted and you have to resolve, you see chain A received its submission first in the case of a conflict
It is "rest of the world" vs "a small region"
08:21
I don't think it matters if the region is large or small
Like being cut off for at least a day
The block time is 10 minutes
though I suppose if it did, it'd be a lousy system
I don't think you could reasonably try to mine bitcoins if you can't communicate with the outside world
string yesterday_transformer_consumption =dt_getlatest.Rows[0][0].ToString();
yesterday_transformer_consumption= $"{yesterday_transformer_consumption:0.00}";
op-0.420000000001892
exp op- 0.42
can anyone tell how to trim upto 2 decimal in c#
@DKDhilip it would seem that it hasn't really been an issue until now
@KrishnaMohan Math.Round(num, 2)
08:26
for that i need to type cast
why? what type is it?
its a string type
and i dont want to round up i want trim
oh, is there no way to get it as a decimal instead?
@Neil It might be a problem in the foreseeable future
cannt convert string to double , its saying
08:28
@DKDhilip I don't think it'd be a problem except in the sense that those closed behind a great firewall couldn't do bitcoin mining
@KrishnaMohan t_getlatest.Rows[0][0].ToString();
you're calling ToString on it. My point is do you have to convert to string?
if you could get it as a decimal, then you could simply call Math.Floor
@Neil I think it will still run in isolated network as long as there's enough nodes
@DKDhilip they could.. but would they if they thought they might be wasting energy and thereby wasting money?
double yesterday_trans_cons = Convert.ToDouble(dt_getlatest.Rows[0][0].ToString());
yesterday_trans_cons = Math.Round(yesterday_trans_cons, 2);
Now we have the only mod, Rob
thanks @Neil
08:32
@KrishnaMohan you're converting to a string and then to a decimal this way
can you not just get the data as a decimal?
in the database the value is in string
@Neil But how about non-mining case? like coin transfers? Merchant who happily accept Bitcoin might not aware when things happen
And there's still many nodes still continue to do mining
@DKDhilip true. I suppose I don't have to worry about that, not being the one who invented the bitcoin and all
@CaptainSquirrel shut up rat man
mr5
mr5
Do you guys know any royalty-free mp3 files that are free to download?
@mr5 if you can find a youtube video playing that audio, you can get an mp3 for that audio
though admittedly, may not be royalty free..
mr5
mr5
@Neil I'm doing this personally. I'm not sure if it's legal in commercial aspect :/
@DKDhilip People who bought this also bought: "Cheese Printer" and "Zimbabwe Billion Dollars"
@mr5 almost certainly not
but I do it for ringtones
Nobody has stopped me on the street asking for royalties yet
@Neil lol
mr5
mr5
08:48
you think I can pirate it without legal bindings?
that solely depends on whether you are caught
come to Spain, our laws favor piracy and theft
@mr5 I'm not sure about this
This is good, but did it actually possible?
I would like .. come to c#
mother.Foo()
    ..Bar()
    ..Foo()
    ..Bar()
...................................................................Bar();
mr5
mr5
09:02
The dot-syntax is used in Swift for type inference enumeration.
Err, there's a "Longhorn" OS name?
oh, it's Vista
Does anyone here work with Azure? I want to build a test TeamSpeak 3 server on Azure but have no idea how IOPS translate into a voice service.
AWS doesn't have IOPS restrictions.
I literally have two TS3 servers running on azure
I just chose, like, the smallest damn linux VMs possible and it works so far
for like 15 users max
havent tried more
15 is probably a high guess
Actually not the smalles size. I have standard_b1|s for bursting should it really need it
09:19
I like azure
but I don't know much about it yet
ah well, I will try the most basic infrastructure and see if I need to upgrade
but I'd like to understand what is happening
IOPS on storage?
Network probably
I understand it's storage
but I could be wrong
From what I see it looks like the IOPS refer to how many actual operations are carried on disks
They seems to only mention IOPS on storage
09:25
on storage, example 3000IOPS on 128kb per block = 393mbps
throughput also depends on latency
dont includes latency, its complicated
My mistake, it should be storage IO
Batching to improve throughput but with higher latency
Low latency then lower throughput
Does anyone know an Azure maps API service to convert kilometers to Geo-coordinates (lat&long)?
Btw Google lets you have one micro VM for free forever
How would you convert that? They are two different things?
09:36
@Squirrelkiller with public wan ip?
like: FromKilometersToCoordinates(center, xKilometers)
@nyconing I think so. But I'm using duckdns anyway.
center is coordinate?
yes
mr5
mr5
If you put enclosed parenthesis in the end of a sentence, should you still add a dot to it?
09:37
@mshwf How would that work? X kilometers from a point would make a circle, where the center is the same as before.
you want a new coordinate by add some km from original coordinate
mr5
mr5
E.g., "Good afternoon (not really)."
If you want a new coordinate, you have to add both kilometers and an angle
FromKilometersToCoordinates(center, xKilometers, degree)
mr5
mr5
09:38
it looks weird though
@nyconing yes
then you dont need api, simple math would done
mr5
mr5
@Squirrelkiller what if the sentence ends in ellipsis? Then it becomes 4 dots?
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@mr5 you don't need a stop if you're finishing the sentence with an ellipses
mr5
mr5
09:40
Hello, uhm….
@nyconing complex math, one kilometer of lats and longs in Egypt isn't the same kilometer in the north pole
mr5
mr5



i.e hello stranger...
is ok, but: hello stranger...long time no see
without a stop, is wrong
mr5
mr5
how do you know?
09:42
because im english and i've been speaking and listening to this language for 20 years?
sorry fritz
An Ellipsis is considered a full stop mark, just like any other signs
For example, you don't end a question with a period
Wouldn't this be weird?.
mr5
mr5
I'd say, you forgot to invoke some property or method
an ellipsis is not the same as a period though
09:50
foo?.Bar();
@Neil but can have the same effect of ending a sentence
if you used an ellipsis to end your sentences in a formal paper, I'd have to say no, they're not equivalent
there's a clear second meaning behind it
but thats down to writing style rather than actual effect
grammatically it would be correct, but inappropriate
in the same way that you gather a second meaning from a word if I put it in "quotation marks"
How about .,
09:52
@DKDhilip no because that's contradicting grammar
well no, not correct. sentences end with a period, not a comma or a semicolon
@Neil are you replying to me or DK Dhillip?
You. You said it's grammatically correct
but an ellipse is neither a comma nor semicolon
@Neil You're missing the point. The ellipsis has its own meaning, but used at the end of a sentence doesn't require an extra period, which is what mr5 said.
09:53
formally it isn't
@HéctorÁlvarez ^
According to [AuthorName] et al., [a statement].
@DKDhilip thats ok because the period is there used to signify an abbreviation
well if you add another period to an ellipsis, it's just becomes an ellipsis with four period marks, not three with a period at the end
I don't think 4 dots in an ellipsis is considered valid.
mr5
mr5
09:55
It's weird when you use period in a bulleted short sentences though
I think I've seen many apps that doesn't put dots in their short sentence bullet list
@HéctorÁlvarez formally no
informally, nobody is staring at your text going, "is this even english?" just because it ends a sentence with 4 period marks rather than 3
but u cud rite text informally like dis tho blud
doesnt make it correct
An ellipsis can convey different meanings, most often it's used to depict that there's something more you can say but you're tired of writing and/or it doesn't add any more more value, i.e. an equivalent of et caetera, A.K.A. etc.
@Neil I do, but I'm a grammar nazi, so whatever.
mr5
mr5
Shoudn't it be et cetera?
et caetera is the OG.
09:59
The grammar nazi outed by a non-grammar nazi.. ouch
mr5
mr5
> "and other similar things"
So cetera means "other similar things"
Oh
According to the wiki, et caetera is the french version
mr5
mr5
Now I know where the word "at" (means and in our language) originates
@CaptainSquirrel you've picked a bad time to come home to c# kinsman
10:01
oh?
oh lord
spelling and grammar
there's an all out grammar war
this is the big bad
(did u like my skyrim reference)
everyone knows, in order to; use, grammar correctly! you. Just dont
come at me
mr5
mr5
u 2 fite...?
10:02
caetera is just archaic
mr5
mr5
it's awful to pronounce also
@Harry there's a skyrim reference?
the term is considered right in french, but it is not a french term
@CaptainSquirrel you've picked a bad time to come home to c# kinsman
10:03
no, it's latin to be sure
but it is adapted in many different languages not quite the same as the original
mr5
mr5
Ha!
@Harry ....that's a skyrim reference?
It's been a few years since i played skyrim, so i'm a touch rusty
mr5
mr5
Just stumbled recently to the etymology of ampersand &
Fun fact: bald eagles are called as such because balde in old english means white
mr5
mr5
It's a ligature of E and T or "et"
10:03
yeah, in character creation if ur a nord hadvar says you've picked a bad time to come home to skyrim kinsan
ohhhhh
true true true
i remember that now
I can't find any concusive information really, everyone seems to have a different idea. It appears that caetera is the archaic version, I understand it's the original term in Latin rather than cetera, which would make both terms valid depending on how flamboyant you want to appear. Me, very.
Most names have been butchered during translations, even within romance languages, so why bother.
mr5
mr5
self.vocabulary.add("flamboyant", definition: "cheerful")
I'd say AlRey and nerdintraining are flamboyant.
damn my company is really putting some effort against giving me the VAT ID to attach it to the Azure account
10:20
@mr5 flamboyant is also the name of a beautiful tree
Probably because it aptly describes said tree in French :p
Hey guys, I have an architecture question and I am confused of how to design it properly (been banging my head against a wall for the last 2 days).

Basically, I have a WebAPI 2 Controller that I intend to use for email searching. It goes by the route ("api/emails/{repository}/{folder}/search")...

How I am planning to design it is to do a switch on repository.... say

switch(repository) {
}
and then for each switch case, I will call the right class to handle the search. I was just wondering if there is any better way to do this? Something to easily scale in case some other devs will want to have emails of their own to their system?
THE BASS ON MY LAPTOP IS MISSING
Dictionary
WHERE IS THE BASS
repositories[repository].DoWhateverYouWant();
mr5
mr5
10:35
So...
I created an HTML file
Here's what I've done so far:
It's not perfect gif
You'll see this when you google: marquee html
mr5
mr5
lol
even the search result labels are moving
Google: recursion
Google "thanos" then click the infinity gauntlet on the right
2
mr5
mr5
Clicking it again will the revert the occurrences.
Guys why C# and not Java? Is your choice influenced by Frameworks like .NET?
10:47
Cuz Java is relly pain in ass
C# isn't Java
It starts with Properties
So that's a big +1
And ends with Java being old AF
And also the fact that it's Java
The only Java i need in my life comes in a cup
10:48
C# started as Java knockoff
How dare you
@DKDhilip nice
I saw someone the other day say
C# is a cheap java clone that is better
and that sentence makes no sense
Is it saying c# is good or bad
It's saying good
And it makes sense.
It's partially true.
10:50
I'll be honest
Good or bad is too subjective lol
The only reason i like c# so much is because its not as complicated as C++ and isn't anywhere near as shit as Java
Microsoft made their own Java because Oracle didn't let them alter something.
And they made a better Java called C#
D is quite good, but...
You guys stick around with c# tech (Like the .NET ecosystem) or do you integrate with other tech, mongoDB, Angular/reac etc...
10:52
@FilipeNóbrega React 'ere.
JavaScripto
React & Angular here
Java scripto
Java sc rip to
mr5
mr5
10:56
JAVA SCRIPTOOO!!
All of you like JS, what about TypeScript? I personally prefer TS
typescript is nice
honestly would prefer typescript whenever I can use it
I honestly have no preference
both JS & TS are nice
WebAssembly is not new but its growing now with blazor, it still requires alot of year until it achives all the functionality you can get with JS. But do you think eventualy it will be more popular then JS?
10:58
@FilipeNóbrega TS mastarace
@Hans1984 lerl
@Hans1984 "Why don't I get a hazmat suit?" "Oh, no worries, sir. Bus drivers can't catch it. I know because I'm a professional."
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