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11:00 AM
hmm
well I remember till 3NF
and we used to break
all that removing trivial dependencies
conditional key should not be dependent on Primary key
something like that need to look into it again :/
 
´select * from employee´ becomes ´select name, surname, surname2, surname3, address, phone, id_card, krakken from employee_main_data join employee_particular_data on... join ... join ... join ... join... union all select...´
 
^ah
 
@HéctorÁlvarez nO
wHY jOIN?
What is this HaCKeRy?
 
oh I understand now, having the option of scalibility is causing us to have tough to maintain code :)
 
@HéctorÁlvarez looks like fizzbuzzenterprise
 
11:03 AM
@Squirrelintraining what is wrong with join? You prefer subqueries?
thank you :))
 
he prefers hazelnuts
 
@Shad not necessarily
I have very scalable code and it is very easy to maintain
but I use a solution to the problem
 
I was able to think because of that example he gave
 
similar to how EDM provides that solution
 
hmm
 
11:05 AM
my solution isnt EDM tho
 
I think it's the unions that are the stinkery here
there's nothing wrong with joins provided proper indexes are created to support said joins
 
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
11:11 AM
user image
2
 
what is hammer time?
 
!~urban hammer time
@nyconing hammer time A [catchphrase] a man says before [jackhammering] his partner and [consequently] breaking his/her neck.
 
stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
wth
 
11:13 AM
stop with the gy sht
 
I am a virgin _/_
 
urban response was gay af
 
MC Hammer came out with a big hit early 90s called hammertime..
 
his ?
wth
 
A class with never having an object created
 
11:15 AM
@Neil Can't touch this.
 
but it is not sealed
 
? @Hans1984
 
oh
 
@HéctorÁlvarez oh you're right, but he does say hammertime in the song
 
what the heck
 
11:15 AM
@Proxy Hello Peano! :)
 
hi peon @Shad
 
Yes, that's the kick.
 
response was nsfw
you never quote urban
 
To this day, aside from being a reference to "Can't touch this", I don't understand what a hammertime is
 
dumb bot @nyconing
urban is rarely sfw
 
11:16 AM
lol
 
the definition of sfw is probably nsfw on urban
2
 
@Neil Not sure if dead serious or...
 
 ~ $ cd /
 / $ touch this
touch: cannot touch 'this': Permission denied
 ✘ $ /
6
 
xD
 
MADARA!
 
11:17 AM
UCHIHA!
 
hides WHO? WHAT? WHERE?
 
@Wietlol HASHIRAMA
 
touchy touchy
 
LORD
 
ugh
 
11:18 AM
Today's AoC is tricky :/
 
Madara, first of his name, breaker of bots and destroyer of worlds!
 
I have 3*
will try when I Reach home
 
If you think about it, not very impressive title to say "first of his name"
 
i couldnt work out yesterday, im in a bad mood ;(
 
if lord madara find it tricky it must be super duper tricky for else
 
11:19 AM
pretty much everyone has this title
 
@Wietbot join 1
 
Remember when the anime started and we all thought that Kakashi was strong because he had this Sharingan thing that he could only use for a few minutes before going exhausted?
 
Neil, first of his name, eater of meatball subs and slightly above average programmer!
 
The eye that could see into the future... Yet he got trapped by Zabuza, which is easily one of the worst villains in the whole show, beaten by kids.
Turns out Sasuke has both eyes with the same crap
 
@MadaraUchiha my bot is living in the sandbox now, and I want someone to break it using the eval js feature
 
11:21 AM
A few years and a few hundred episodes later: Well this lady can shift dimensions and has 3 eyes, none of them is a sharingan... Now the white eye is mainstream.
 
I heard you managed to break james over and over again
 
jack is an alcoholic
the bot
he forgets things all the time
Jack, drink
 
!~hammer set cd 60000
 
stop
 
11:24 AM
HAMMERTIME!
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
stahp
nooooooooooooooooo
why?
 
wheres cpt obvious when you need him
to stop this madness
 
Jack, hayzoos
 
11:31 AM
15 mins ago, by Hans1984
dumb bot @nyconing
same bot on cap = good cap, i miss cap
same bot on others = dumb bot
Jack, hayzoos
 
I miss cap too
can't we just like setup an instance
 
!~Environment.Exit(0)
I tried.
 
hehe
adorable cat
!~>Environment.Exit(0)
-!!>Request for the permission of type 'System.Security.Permissions.SecurityPermission, mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' failed.
 
@MadaraUchiha could i trouble you to give @JackSparrow write access in sandbox pls?
 
user10864482
11:46 AM
good morning
 
@Shad No, Select* from X doesnn't translate into a join
 
@CaptainSquirrel isnt it already is?
 
@nyconing not in sandbox
in here it is
 
oh, ok
 
would be nice if jack could automatically un-onebox images
 
11:48 AM
Its on my to-do list
but I don't know when i'll "do" it
 
ideally like after a minute or so
 
@nyconing cap was unique
 
I don't know if that's doable
 
it be doable
 
ಥ‿ಥ
cap
 
11:49 AM
@Hans1984 did you and cap have a relationship or something
 
it's a secret
psssh
 
reminds me of that movie "Her"
all the AI will eventually leave our unintellegent asses to look for better pastures
 
@CaptainSquirrel he doesn't know when he will do "it"
 
I mean, there are people in here with the ability to add changes
only thing @CaptainObvious has done with his access is code shame me
 
11:57 AM
:(
 
lolol
 
12:27 PM
your meme will make a fine addition to Jack's collection
fuck Jack should've been General Grievous
 
I've learned the command haha
 
'Tis not a meme AL!
'TIS A DECISION OF LIFE!
 
rumble in thumble
hunger
 
that squirrel looks happy to find a roach
 
Goood morning afternoonish.
 
12:37 PM
also I left kibble in my backyard as promised....and found out my neighbor has a cat with a taste for puppy chow
 
@AlRey maybe because it means food
i dont know how it is in your companies guys
but in the companies I've been so far everythign gets even more stressfull at the end of the year
pre christmas and new years eve
including this company
its so hectic right now...
 
Happy to say I'm finally done with the job hunt.
 
so you just quit on work life ?
 
congrats!
 
yea!
 
12:40 PM
oh !
congrats, I guess...
 
unless you're going to be permanently unemployed.. in which case, I'm sorry...
 
I'm finishng up this project until the end of the year, then taking a month off, then starting at Google in February.
6
 
very cool
 
wow nice!
put in a good word for me, would ya? ;)
 
12:41 PM
:^)
 
I could swear this eye is starring at me
stop it eye !
 
Nice, congratulations Avner!
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Say whaaaat?!
Congratz!
Are you moving?
 
No, they have a pretty large development center here in Tel Aviv.
 
12:43 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Congrats, hope you'll like it there :-)
 
@RoelvanUden Me too. The pay and benefits are great, it's much closer to home than my current project, so I can take a bike and still shave 20 minutes off the commute, each way.
 
That's pretty nice :-D
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan congratulations!
 
wow tel aviv
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Thats sicc
 
12:46 PM
i bet there are tons of IT jobs
just for the taking
O_O
 
@Hans1984 I know you as a german are very awed by telvaviv :P
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Oh? You're in TA now?
 
and traffic is hell if you dont live in the city :DD
 
@Squirrelintraining 0/10
 
@MadaraUchiha Technically I'm in Herzliya now, but my heart yearns for home :)
 
12:47 PM
I have a jewish name
I would fit perfectly in
 
@Hans1984 Lots of tech companies in Tel Aviv and the vicinity, though there are a lot of candidates as well.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan "now" as in "when you start the new job"
 
darn all I gots is a Greek name
 
maybe a little bit to pale
but i will get a tan
 
@MadaraUchiha Ah, yes. Google's R&D center in Yigal Alon st.
 
12:48 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yeah the competition is probably very high
 
youtube.com/watch?v=TS5F7EmvekQ why is this so funny to me
 
I dont think the competition is very high but the market is overflooded
there aren't many top tier devs I'd probably say (dunno if I am correct)
 
I do wonder if they speak primarily english there at the Google site
 
you have the risk of getting hit by a missle every day which kinda lowers the quality of life
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Noice, maybe we could realize my dream of catching lunch with you someday :D
 
12:49 PM
but hey
 
@Neil The everyday language is Hebrew, but there's a lot of communication with international teams, so everyone's speaking some English some of the time.
 
You going to with .NET there?
Or defect to the dark side?
 
iron dome will protect my ass
 
@MadaraUchiha Name the day. I can pull you in to Google' fancy dining rooms. :)
 
they speak a lot of english here as well, despite everyone here being Italian
 
12:50 PM
@MadaraUchiha C++, all the way.
 
There are some Indians who only know English outside their native tongue
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Ooooh, shiny. I might actually take you up on that. TBD :P
 
avner is going to google?
 
@Wietlol avner is
 
did avner just go with it or did Microsoft reject avner?
iirc, avner also applied for Microsoft
 
12:52 PM
why use many words when few do trick
 
@Wietlol My choice, though it was neck-to-neck. Both offers were very good.
 
cause few words make smol sentence
 
ahh
2 lions
 
don't be evil, Avner
3
 
halph squirrels !
 
12:58 PM
@AlRey Will so my darndest.
 
oh no i have a terrible question
what do you think about the google protests
 
you mean where Google workers commit strikes?
 
why they striking
dumb fcks
 
the walkouts from last month
 
they work for one of the most famouse companies in the world and certainly make a lot of money
and have the nerve to strike...
 
1:01 PM
I thought that was just a handful of people, but it says something about the ethical boundaries Google's pushing
 
well people with lots of money sometimes commit unethical things for the sake of money
not saying google does
 
most people would just leave the company as a form of protest
 
hypocrites
just quit the company or work
 
well you gotta eat
 
idk if it counts as protesting, but the fact that Gabe Newell and Mike Harrington left Microsoft to found Valve and grew to resent the company they worked for more as time went on shows they made the right move to leave
 
1:02 PM
you can find another job if you are so offended by your companys behavior
 
gabe probably resents himself nowadays
 
aslong as you work for them you are part of the problem
 
"How could I let Xen happen?? ;~;"
 
I mean you could say you should stay inside the company to fix it from within to fight for the things you do support inside of it
 
he talks about it like the Xen levels in hl1 were the worst thing he ever did lmao
 
1:04 PM
how likely is it for such a big company to change because some workers protest ?
 
@misha130 I think they're definitely appropriate. Google and the other tech giants keep saying that their workers are their most important asset, so the workers feel that they can and should be able to influence their company, ethically speaking.
 
what was wrong with Xen?
 
true
 
@Neil they were a drastic jump in difficulty and implemented platforming mechanics that don't usually mesh well with fps....with that said, I still like Xen
 
I think they're very limited, because corporations are corporations. They make make some small impact, but generally speaking corporations are incapable, by their nature, of not being tools of capitalism. Social change needs to happen outside and constrain the actions of corporations to steer them to proper channels.
 
1:05 PM
black mesa xer was ok
 
@AlRey It was the end game, it was supposed to ramp up the difficulty
 
It helps, though, if there are voices inside the company that push it towards accepting, not circumventing, those restrictions.
 
there's a way to do it properly, and then there's just cranking the dial from 8 to 15
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan regulation, taxation, etc
 
if anything, they needed a better "tutorial" part of the game where you were required to use it
 
1:06 PM
@misha130 Yup.
 
but I guess back on topic....for as unethical as Google can be, I'm surprised they don't get as much hate as Amazon
maybe because Amazon's lack of ethics is more visible
 
there was the fight before the portal opens, but I don't think you were required to use the crouch jump for that
 
@AlRey Google got good PR from their "don't be evil" thing.
 
supposedly they removed that from their policy, didn't they?
 
yyyyep
 
1:07 PM
raised a number of eyebrows too
 
that policy is so old that it was written in the old Google serif font
 
@Neil Supposedly. I don't think it was ever policy, just a nice aphorism brandished around to pretend they aren't a corporation.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I don't put too much weight in the fact that they removed it. It's not like a contract or something
 
so
 
1:08 PM
@Hans1984 You can also move to a different country if you don't like the policies of the one you're at. Or you can try to change it. By voting, by protesting, by volunteering, or other ways. Same here, though, again, with the understanding that your power is limited.
 
if they so much wanted to, they could write that flat earthers have got it right in their policy, and they'd only take a PR hit for that
 
has someone bought the outer worlds yet ?
 
@Hans1984 I got it on Game Pass...it's pretty good I gotta say
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yes it's up to you but you have to realize that your power is limited at times
@AlRey ikr ?
 
@misha130 WhY iS ThIs LEveL sO lOnG?!
 
1:10 PM
I'm at the end of the game and really enjoyed it
 
it was actually a pretty bad level imo
 
@MadaraUchiha while(!AtEnd()) { player.turnRight(); }
 
and no its not too short as some ppl claim
 
@misha130 oh my god that's amazing
 
I will be at about 45 hours when im done with it
 
1:11 PM
tbh I had a harder time with the level right before you shoot vortigaunts with a turret than I did with xen
or the part with land mines
 
Is that Black Mesa?
 
I mean surely the question should have been
 
but I also did almost every quest, read every dialog, looted everything, did all the upgrades
 
how the fuck did this guy/gal get a job
 
I totally don't remember that part of hl2
 
1:11 PM
@misha130 I'm guessing the playtester went with the "stick to the right wall and keep going right" strategy to solve a maze
But that only works when you don't have circles
 
"hey I've got an idea! let's put the player in a room that will kill them if they trigger a single explosive device!"
that was the beginning of Gaben's trolling
 
@misha130 xaxa
@MadaraUchiha aka if you don't start in the center of the maze
 
circles can exist, but the start and end must be in the same inner circle or both on the outer circle
and you also can't have three dimensions because that kind of messes up everything
 
@Neil either do i tbh
 
1:27 PM
@MadaraUchiha wanna see something funny?
 
@MadaraUchiha I genuinely thought the "stick to the right wall" is working in every case. Not anymore
Like the Ariadne stuff was overkill
 
1:45 PM
See you all on thursday o/
 
\o
 
@ntohl FYI because of that thought, I always stick to the left.
To avoid like 70% of troll boobytraps placed by the constructor
 
@Wietlol Sure
 
Madara don't wait for it, he is talking about himself again
 
slowly enter the sandbox
but be prepared for the würst
 
1:57 PM
welcome fellow cat
 

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