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12:09 AM
Hey was wondering if I could get some input on a concept. So I wanted to make an "auto-updater" for my program, because it was a flash-game emulator which new games are added every day (Dont worry, im not a hoader, all the games are served from an online database, not from the internal storage lol)

So i used Githubs "latest" URL trick to download my assets and replace them with a webclient
However, i also want to update the auto-updater.

In this specific case, how can i replace the file while the auto-updater is open
because normally it would give an exception because your trying to run a file thats open
heres the basic updater code, which uses webClient to download data and replace or add files to your installation directory:
 Client.DownloadFile("linkToAsset", Application.StartupPath + "\\AssetName.exe");
 
12:31 AM
RiP... I guess its a bit too late at night to ask questions..
everyones sleepin...
 
12:50 AM
Woah... what just happened... All the rep got recounted and now I have 364 rep... huh??
Oh, nevermind, I see, stackoverflow.blog/2019/11/13/…
Wow... this is cool
aw... sadface.. still question banned
 
 
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mr5
4:55 AM
+400
dopamine booster? I don't think so
 
 
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6:03 AM
Why??
Is bug?
Why is
Wait, why my rep increased
 
6:27 AM
mine too! :D
but did I really earn it?
is it another free badge for ash?
 
7:20 AM
@TaylorS In the past, you could just clone the executable to the temp folder, run that and exit the main executable, then replace it from the temp folder. It doesn't work nowadays without significant costs. That's because Windows (as well as Mac) mark new writes to an executable as 'untrusted', so it's become impossible to run the executable until explicitly allowed by the user. The way around this is code signing.
 
Good morning
 
'Mornin.
 
7:36 AM
Oh sheez I also got extra reps
It ain't much, but it's honest work
I just had to open the Docker website on IE because Chrome doesn't work.
 
hoi!
 
Today I haven't had proper sleep, and I'm dizzy AF
 
7:57 AM
@Hรฉctorรlvarez Sleep is important.
 
Buenos dias senoritas
No recuerro como hago el ~n
 
@Squirrelkiller alt+164
@RoelvanUden Yes, but troubleshooting the lack of power for my new headphones is also important
I lost track of time, when I checked the clock it said 00.37
 
8:15 AM
My reputation increased by 50% :)
Good morning
 
8:27 AM
Gracias Señor
 
heh amazing free 100 reps
not sure if SO is dying
 
It died long ago
 
Absolutely not
 
I lost my intentions to ask questions long ago
 
saw some mods yesterday writing their own community ran platfrom
 
8:29 AM
But why it is dying?
 
Mostly because it's not considered a welcoming environment
 
Because every possible question has been asked? :D
If you ask a beginner question you get some down votes :/
 
A new person coming here and asking a question is met with elitists who simply downvote because they spend 10 hours a day marshalling the platform
They remember "I've seen something that is 30% like this question!", and downvote away
 
what? no, thats always been the case
i dont think that elitism is the problem
 
nobody gets upvotes really, many people don't even mark anything as answer
 
8:31 AM
you cant separate elitism from developers
 
It is because it develops into everyone basically ignoring you until you provide enough facts to make it a yes/no question, at which point you've solved it yourself
 
Are duplicates really so bad?
@HéctorÁlvarez Interessting view :D
 
take it as follows. Let's say you have this opinion and I have this other opposite one. I can react you you speaking your mind aloud in 2 different ways:
- I politely disagree for these reasons.
- Go F yourself with your opinions that nobody asked.
SO is usually regarded as the latter, because most people will just flag your question, mostly as too broad, too specific, or opinion-based when it's clearly not.
And many people don't even say why
 
Too specific? Really?
 
@Hรฉctorรlvarez There's a bit of a spectrum between name calling and reasoned arguments.
 
8:34 AM
Well that's just an example.
 
The format of SO doesn't work. Besides the constant elitism, the reward-cycle consists of up-votes on either question/answer. The quality of the question/answer doesn't matter; the number of votes do. As a result, difficult questions are worth nothing. Most people don't understand, so no upvotes. Answering one is equally worthless, because you MIGHT get one upvote. The entire system is tailored to asking simple questions and providing simple solutions. But that's just my opinion ofc.
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@MadaraUchiha Yes I just wanted to make the point without enumerating the 23987129387 shades of freedom
@RoelvanUden Yes I agree with this.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez People's times are valuable. Even if we don't take into consideration that some peoples' times are more valuable than others, and assume they are all equal, expecting someone to google for you, search for you, debug for you (and not just you, the other 500 people asking questions that one person is seeing that day), is not only unreasonable, but rude.
 
hugs
 
My mental modal of the problem was always that of differing expectations.
 
8:37 AM
@MadaraUchiha Right I agree with that. However a very straightforward question can be met with either of those flags, and subsequently closed for this reason. I've seen many people who basically hunt for questions, flag them, and post on chat so everyone else can flag all at once.
And if you get there, the question is pretty much OK
 
New users don't know how to ask a proper question, it's a skill, and a difficult one. People's minds are constantly being blown when I tell them that they need to provide, in advance, the actual behavior, the expected behavior, your attempts, and why those didn't work.
 
Whatever Lord Madara says is true otherwise be ready to be hit by the meteors!
 
@RoelvanUden but its like separating your problems into smaller problems
 
Veteran users expect users to do all those things because "It's listed in the help articles and countless meta posts! Why aren't those users reading?!"
 
hard questions are never answered because they aren't focused
 
8:38 AM
fucking windows
One time I try to be clever with the ordering of the file system and now everytime I open a folder, I don't know why, windows goes, "I gotcha fam!" and it decides to order it in reverse alphabetical order.
 
I need to add this thing to web.config file But it shows me Error ... <add key="HEnv" value="UserName: <Type UserName Here>:" />
 
also asking the right questions is a skill I think more valuable than knowing answers
 
grater than and lesser than not accepted
 
So, the logical conclusion for me always was that the asking experience needed to become better. Stack Overflow is in the business of asking questions and answering them. I expected that the asking form would somehow detect missing pieces and instruct you to fill them, help you get feedback for your questions early, before they reach the general public, etc.
 
@MadaraUchiha Right, that's another problem, you can't expect people to browse through several different iterations of the same sentence worded differently for the search engine to actually find the results you want. People search often in broken English, they can't find an answer, and that leads them here to ask if someone can help them see why their code doesn't work.
 
8:40 AM
UI/UX is like a joke, if you need to explain it (especially as we have), it's not good.
 
@Neil Because you're playing Windows on Hard mode.
 
I'm a casual gamer! Give me back normal mode, windows!
 
@MadaraUchiha This is what I use to explain UX to my colleagues
and it's actually true
 
Tell me one thing, when people answer(comment) with 'possible duplicate of ....'
Does that mean they are really good in finding similar questions?
^How do I become good at this?
By doing a good research before asking? Right?(looking at enumerable possible duplicates) And not be lazy
 
@Shad No, it usually means that they copy and pasted the important words from the question title to Google, and actually read the answer
Rather then skipping to the codez
 
8:43 AM
hmm
 
Searching is a tricky thing
 
indeed
 
You're in a much better position to search, when you know exactly what it is that you are searching
 
and this is something a newbie lacks!
 
But if I can literally copy and paste your title to Google and find a good answer on the first result, you are just lazy, no tricks about it.
 
8:45 AM
I need to learn more how to better search on google
 
A few days ago I asked in the Ubuntu stack how to troubleshoot a broken network connection. I don't have any Linux expertise, aside from the basic commands that I learned about 3 years ago, nobody uses Linux in the environment I work, so I expect people would understand that.
They changed a lot of stuff and networking is handled differently from Ubuntu 18.04 so I'm clueless what to do. My question was first met with a comment saying the question is blocked due to lack of information, even though I explained everything step by step with screenshots. 10 days later someone added another comment asked for some detail, I couldn't be bothered at that moment because I was already on something else. This person downvoted the next day due to "inactivity".
 
What's tricky is when there's a well known problem with very similar conditions, except your problem differs slightly to make all the well known problem solutions worthless..
finding a solution in this case can be quite difficult
 
So as you can guess I apologyzed, deleted the question because I simply can't wait for 2 weeks and answer people on demand on an issue that blocked me and I set aside in order to do other stuff, only to be met by this.
 
@Neil That's an excellent case for posting a question, linking that other question and saying exactly where your problem differs and how it voids the other answer.
 
"It is rude to waste people's time, they read your question and you ignore them, so get downvoted". Seriously, I will simply ask someone else. To me it looks like the other person is the rude one
 
8:48 AM
@Hรฉctorรlvarez No, you have it wrong. This is a false narrative that was pushed quite a bit this last year~two or so
 
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
 
We do not (generally speaking) downvote users, we downvote questions/answers.
 
downvoting an inactive question is silly
 
Downvoting question directly affects the user. Even more so, if you answer a question that then gets flagged and removed you take a penalty as well.
 
Users are not up for voting or judgement, it's the posts that are.
 
8:49 AM
I like how I see that message, "This user is new to SO. Be nice/polite"
 
@misha130 How so?
 
and many users indeed don't downvote but give the User tips
 
I don't think a question should be downvoted for inactivity. If anything it should be downvoted for lack of information
 
That's like saying "I don't shoot people, I shoot lungs, the person isn't what I was aiming for".
 
the quality of the question does not go down or up regardless of its activity
 
8:50 AM
You mean downvoting because OP wasn't responsive enough? Yeah that's silly.
 
yea
 
it's a forum, not a chatroom
 
I remember when I earned by first reps by asking good questions
Felt so gooood! <3
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Q: Confusion Regarding Constructor Chaining in Java

ShadFrom what I understand about Constructor Chaining is that Whenever we create an object of child class (or call child class constructor) a call to default constructor of parent class is automatically made first ONLY IF our child constructor does not happen to call another constructor ...

 
But I think it's more like a "I'll suspend my downvote on this relatively crappy question until OP answers if it's in, like, a few minutes"
And when OP doesn't answer, they just shrug, downvote, and move on
There are parts of the system that are awkward or outright bad, don't get me wrong.
That one or two downvoted/deleted questions are enough to effectively get you suspended for life is bad.
 
Yeh the idea of SO is awesome, but the execution is poor at best
 
8:53 AM
you think QUORA is better?
 
It's a system they put in place for a good cause, to get people to improve their existing questions and/or learn to be better
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where pseudo intellectuals just get upvotes
 
the execution is the best we have - t. churchill
 
SO is best among the rest
 
8:53 AM
The problem from my perspective is that SO went too far trying to get "top quality answers" only
and that dragged in elitism, which is what killed the place.
 
But they didn't follow up with means to reset downvotes (or garner attention) on improvements, or a backdoor system where you can appeal if you think you're ready to try again despite not meeting the harsh criteria
The "This user is new, be nice" thing -- honestly, I view it as an insult.
 
lol
 
As someone who puts the blame almost squarely on the company for not doing jack shit about this situation for 7 years
Breaking the silence only to say "Oh, and you're not nice enough, why don't you shovel shit with a bit more of a smile on your face?"
 
actually I got question banned for asking questions when I started using SO. So I just answered questions instead so I can ask questions again
 
Is an insult.
 
8:55 AM
thats a "reset"
 
"This user is human. Be nice/polite"
 
This user is a pokemon. Battle it.
 
:D
 
@kame Most people are nice and polite.
And we deal with those who are not.
 
@MadaraUchiha Not if they are in groups :D
 
8:56 AM
@MadaraUchiha Oh I hate that. It's like a smack upside your face telling you to sit up straight and watch your tongue
 
@misha130 My one account got banned because of asked questions
 
People are frustrated, and instead of fixing the problem, they basically said "Stop being frustrated" or, worse, "Stop showing us that you're frustrated"
 
@Shad This is the reason why this chat exists :)
 
haha. But I took it with positivity and was better at asking questions the next time with new account.
yes!
 
> The whippings will continue until morale improves.
 
8:57 AM
I needed this chat so bad. Just to clear small confusions. >.<
 
:D
 
You don't get to tell me to be nice after you left me to fend for my own without any sort of support or help, despite years and years of excellent proposals and feedback.
 
^point with one perspective.
 
If you follow my feature requests on meta (both of them), you'll notice at some point that the trend moves from "I want this feature" to "let's see if we can do that even though we aren't going to get new features"
 
haha
 
8:59 AM
it seems your feedback collides with their goals?
 
I remember Eric Lippert commenting on my some stupid question. I feel so much guilt wasting his time
It was my fault.
so I disagree with Madara in a way
 
People tried to come up with clever solutions, there's an entire chatroom, and bots maintained and developed for years, to help curate the site, because the queue system sucked
 
Beginners should learn to fit in this tough world
 
People made extensions for auto comments, because the close system sucked
People tried very very hard to make this work despite the company's and system's efforts, not thanks to.
So yes, telling me to do all that, but with a smile on my face too, is insulting to me.
And adding to that the insinuation that we're particularly bad to LGBTQ+, women and people of color is just icing on top.
 
\o
 
9:04 AM
hmm
 
WHat is VSCode remote-WSL even for?
 
?? i gained rep +10 and i dont know what its for
its not telling me
 
didnt you receive the mail from SO ?
 
no
 
now you get +10 for upvotes on your questions aswell
 
9:10 AM
nothing
 
not only on answers
they changed it
"Weโ€™re increasing the value for upvotes to questions
Starting today, weโ€™re doubling the reputation points earned from getting an upvote to a question to 10 points. This makes it equal to the reputation points earned from getting an upvote to an answer."
@Harry
 
maybe they gave me the rep in retrospect
 
ModDoom
 
:o
 
9:16 AM
yoooo
 
Surely answer upvotes should be more valuable than question ones
 
@Harry It looks that way. My rep also changed by 20 points
 
anniversary of the coventry blitz today
 
now im in the infamous "club 800"
 
79 years
 
9:24 AM
Why today
 
wha
 
> The city was bombed many times during the Second World War
Why specifically today
oh
> The most devastating of these attacks occurred on the evening of 14 November 1940 and continued into the morning of 15 November.
 
yes
today was the day the cathedral was bombed and the city was ruined
 
So it's more just the anniversary of the worst night of a load
 
yeah but its just considered the anniversary for that reason
 
9:27 AM
"the city was ruined"
Look at all those still standing buildings
 
the two of them
 
Clearly those were left intact due to strategic value
capturing the central one could allow you to garrison your troops to face incoming enemies
and eventually build a forward barracks to requisition more Volksgrenadiers
 
well yeah the aim of teh blitz wasnt to kill everything they wanted to invade after
 
Liverpool's worst part was an entire week at the start of may
 
If the other buildings were standing that would probably nerf the Wehrmacht's heavy armor divisions
 
9:30 AM
Nah I think they just wanted to kill everything, they took particular fancy to the port of liverpool, with it being the largest port on the west coast
 
I know I'm right because I played Company of Heroes
 
That would have been very helpfulf for them should they invade
 
That automatically makes me a viable General
 
yknow theres a conspiracy theory about the cov blitz -- when they cracked the engima code they knew about the bombing and couldve defended against it but they didnt want to give away theat they cracked the code
 
@Hรฉctorรlvarez good point
I played it too
part 1&2
pretty good series
 
9:31 AM
That's not exclusive to Coventry at all
They did that a lot
 
did i say it was
or did i just say it was a theory
 
ahoy mateys o/
 
2 fronts war was the tipping point
ahoy
 
St Luke's Church, more commonly known by locals as the bombed-out church, is a former Anglican parish church in Liverpool, England. It stands on the corner of Berry Street and Leece Street, at the top of Bold Street. The church was built between 1811 and 1832, and was designed by John Foster, Sr. and John Foster, Jr., father and son who were successive surveyors for the municipal Corporation of Liverpool. In addition to being a parish church, it was also intended to be used as a venue for ceremonial worship by the Corporation and as a concert hall. The church was badly damaged by bombs during the...
 
aye
 
9:35 AM
After somehow just taking the roof off that with the bombs apparentrly it was decided to not bother reroofing ti and put it as a memorial/events venue
 
they loved knocking out cathedrals and churches
to be fair they never repaired coventry cathedral either
they just built a new one
 
Liverpool cathedral was still being built so it wasnt top big of a deal
 
was the cathedral completely flattened
 
Nah
> Liverpool Cathedral was hit by a high explosive bomb which pierced the roof of the south-east transept before being deflected by an inner brick wall and exploding mid-air, damaging many stained glass windows. Another landed on the front steps without exploding but incendiaries destroyed equipment in the contractor's yard at the west end.
Basically a bomb went through the roof, bounced off the wall and blew up in the air, breakign a fgew windows
And a contractors van was set on fire
 
lmao
van on fire
 
9:38 AM
I must now admit
 
what an effective bomb
 
I never knew that the bombed out church was hollow on the inside
 
Cathedral probably wasnt their biggest interest for Liverpool
 
mainly because every time i was close to there, it was when i was out clubbing so it was dark AF
 
Still amazes me paddy's wig wam was finished before the "original" cathedral
 
9:40 AM
@CaptainObvious i always knew that place as paddys wigwam
 
So does everyone
 
And then i said it to some scousers
And they were like ....wat
 
But but it's paddys wigwammm
 
9:43 AM
I know!!!
 
"Known locally as 'Paddy's Wigwam', the cathedral is one of the few Sixties buildings that inspires genuine affection but, like so many buildings of the same period, has been technically unreliable. The most recent estimate says it will cost pounds 6m to put things right" - Independent, 1994
I mean what else are they going to call it
 
God knows
 
They're not going to call it ๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ฟ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“น๐“ธ๐“ธ๐“ต ๐“œ๐“ฎ๐“ฝ๐“ป๐“ธ๐“น๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ฝ๐“ช๐“ท ๐“’๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ฎ๐“ญ๐“ป๐“ช๐“ต
Nobody calls it that
 
good morning
 
morning
 
9:48 AM
!~>"๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ฟ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“น๐“ธ๐“ธ๐“ต ๐“œ๐“ฎ๐“ฝ๐“ป๐“ธ๐“น๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ฝ๐“ช๐“ท ๐“’๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ฎ๐“ญ๐“ป๐“ช๐“ต".Trim()
@nyconing ๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ฟ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“น๐“ธ๐“ธ๐“ต ๐“œ๐“ฎ๐“ฝ๐“ป๐“ธ๐“น๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ฝ๐“ช๐“ท ๐“’๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑ๐“ฎ๐“ญ๐“ป๐“ช๐“ต
 
@nyconing Fish still alive?
 
:o
Hey FIsh Whts up?
Hope you are fine there...
 
@nyconing disgusting
 
this is the world which obey food chain
Nature selections
^nature selection
 
9:56 AM
What's this gta hackery?
 
man i miss gta 4
 
thats what they get for not wearing a hat
 
@Hans1984 and yet you still eat fish :<
 
@Squirrelintraining rarely
max once a month
 
I need Salmon
 
9:57 AM
Sill you do :D
 
now
 
more like 8 times a year
 
NOW!
 
you are salmon!
 
!
 
9:58 AM
Welp anyways thats why I don't eat fish or meat.
My heart dies already if I catch a fly, forget it in the glass over night and then see it all weak the next day.
 
But fish eats fish
 
I mean they are annoying little fucks, like my kids, but still, did the fly deserve that?
 
Honestly
I'm with @nyconing
I could kill for some smoked salmon right now
 
@nyconing And cannibals eat humans.
 
I save every single insect in my flate
with a glas and put it outside
except those spiders i just let them be
 

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