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20:00
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So, you could make that now with the lambda :D
yee
On creation, every transparent square, provided it is larger than X, makes Y transparent squares within a region centered on itself and Z times it's own width.
Run until resolved.
Makes wonderful fractional clouds, noise, plants, trees, wood texture, muscrooms, bushes, abstract cities, etc...
*wonderful fractal
Hey, @alan2here, wanna try and make a noise thing using only Checker, Cylinder, +-*, max, and min modules?
Oh, and const ofc
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@alan2here that was my plan
then combine them to gen whole worlds
then make various world modules children of a solar system module for placing them in a system
@War, Sounds nice. Glad such a thing probably wont be possible with my lambdas :P
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20:07
then galaxies
@Darkrifts its already possible with my code
Then blue screen of death, because that's a lot of stuff
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its exactly how no mans sky works
@War. Ik, saying I ain't gonna even try that
@War basically the brief behind the generation of No Man's sky, iirc
has a single seed number so it should come out the same for every player
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think of the universe as the result of a fractal function
20:09
oops tl;dr
you already said that
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lol
Checker + Cylinder_0.7 * Inv(Checker)
How about a similar syntax to this?
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yeh my idea for a game was based on floating islands though (much smaller) wanted to use this to generate the islands
then apply physics to them in the form of weather
@War so No man's sky, but for small floating islands?
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sort of
but i'm going smaller scale, single shard mmo
20:10
Nead
I played a minecraft-like once with spaceships you built from blocks, and the planets you found were blocks
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the idea being that you control population density by moving the terrain
@TomW Starmade?
yep that's the one
yeee
Makes giant planet harvesting ship
20:11
no man's sky is an overkill, for real ...
Friends played together for one evening
highlight of it was one guy disappearing 'underneath' for about half an hour for us to find that he was busy shooting the word 'wanker' into the bottom of the planet
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@ElieSaad no mans sky imo could be so much more
Best use of time
@War It could be something different that would be much more, yeah could be. But to the current version, damn ain't no one gonna finish it
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20:16
@ElieSaad the objective is to get to the center of the galaxy
people have done that in 30 hours
@War fap fap fap
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@TomW im really hyped about dual
it looks like it has insane potential
@War as a main quest ... :P i am talking about the game as a whole
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there was a dude on youtube bashing it saying stuff like "well we all see the promises but can it do X"
they kept sending him updates with X
was funny as all hell on the last video
@ElieSaad no-one will ever see all stars / planets
unless they bot play the game
tbh though ... what would be the point
look at it
$$$
get money for discovering stuff
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20:19
its clear that most of it repeated with variations like "oh look this one is red, on the other planet they were blue ... that's because of temp"
what's the objective in duals?
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@ElieSaad player driven is the plan i belive
like in eve
players can build cities and stations, start up factions wage wars
that's the idea from what I understand
but the dev is being quite cagey about the specifics on that front so far other than to say "its a truely open sandbox"
latest Eve player stations are like death star sized
the scale of that game is just going crazy
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yeh but you can't explore or edit them
it took many months to get the first Titan built IIRC...and now alliance battles regularly have dozens destroyed
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20:22
valkyrie was a good addition but should have just been part of the main game imo
players just adapt their supply chain so fast
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yeh ... i'm prob never going to get in to eve
I can't click with it
I played it for a while but I was only ever really exploring, didn't get into pvp
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I got fed up of being trolled in eve
and it's basically just full of scammers now
20:29
@War scammers are the best thing to have a game full of, obviously
Using EF which approach is best- code first or db first?
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depends @ChanchalZoarder
@Darkrifts normalise(sin mod 1) should do it, therefore the same might work with cylindar
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if you have a team with a good DBA in it it may be preferrable to go the db first route, if your skills in the team or more code and c# side of things then use code first
a sin scaled up a lot I mean
20:37
Actually I'm interested in out sourced job. Can you please tell me which approach is mostly wanted in the job market like upwork or freelancer.com
what are you coding the voxel thing in @war?
@alan2here I have those things implemented. I meant making a thing on that site using only those :P
same here :)
I cannot find mod though
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@alan2here C#
How can I test if a float is even?
20:43
you mean the decimals in the float as well?
@War How are you doing GPU graphics?
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@Darkrifts define even? ... is 2.000000000001 even ?
@alan2here right now ... i'm using unity 3d ... my plan is to bin it though
planning to build my own webGL framework
WebGL today supports pixel and vert shaders
waiting for the WebCL project to get sorted
@War Sure, but even as in very close to even
you cannot, if you consider that the float aproximates a real number and so should work as such, but you can round it to an integer first, then test for (n % 2) == 0
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that adds compute shader support to WebGL
at that point i'm moving my code to WebGL and setting up my voxel cloud service
20:45
@War Can I use WebGL today with C#?
Yeah just like alan said, take the int number, and modulu it
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@alan2here WebGL is OpenGL within the browser
you use itwith javascript
there are a load of compilers out there that can compile C# to javascript using the asm.js library
my plan is to build my game in C# and compile it to js for the web
I have the server and client code working using async sockets
interesting :)
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I have some of the rendering code working in unity and unity can compile to webGL atm that's partly why i'm using it
but my compute code unity can't use
and I hate that unity is based on mono 2.6 which is basically mono equiv to .Net 2.0
I've recently tried OpenGL4Net and SharpGL and for various reasons didn't get very far.
20:49
@War what would happened if I added a white square to a white square?
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@Darkrifts ? the colour is determined by the range between -1 and 1 so ... you'd get a 2 and it would still be white
One needs you to figure out or trasnlate for C/C++ an amazingly large amount totally perplexing stuff bodged together from other tutorals, just to get nothing to hapen at all yet, and get the enviroment going
and the other only works with old vertions of C# :¬P
both of those things took a lot of time to find out
but web is the way forward! C# to JS with WebGL compalation sounds epic.
and I want somone else to get it working first :¬P
FunScript. :D
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@alan2here unity is doing that today if you tell it to compile your project for WebGL as a target
20:52
I really am ready to code some actual programs not, even if it means coding console applications, I'll draw in ascii if it means I can just write and algorym or oject hyrachy or whatever next time I code, instead of "code"ing getting the enviroment not working :¬P
*now
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you get a web page with some js on it
but what it lacks is compute shaders ... the key to making my tech work
maybe I should set up the mamoth of unity
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I could bodge it I guess by using a pixel shader to do compute stuff but I want to share buffers
maybe we should team up, I've been thinking about many aproaches for generated content for years and have tested a bunch of stuff
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unity is great for proving a concept is possible but imo ... its not a serious engine
too many bugs
20:54
lol
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@alan2here i could rally do with some help tbh ... gpu stuff ... loses me
keep things too conceptually simple for bugs :)
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WebCL (Web Computing Language) is a JavaScript binding to OpenCL for heterogeneous parallel computing within any compatible web browser without the use of plug-ins. Primarily, WebCL allows web applications to actualize speed with multi-core CPUs and GPUs; this intends to make computationally intensive programs feasible in the browser, e.g. physics engines, canvas element and video editing. WebCL is designed and maintained by the non-profit Khronos Group. The completed and ratified specification for WebCL 1.0 was released on March 19, 2014. == Implementation == Currently, no browsers nativ...
I need this for my grand plan
but its not ready yet
the spec is pretty much there ... but to my knowledge its not in any browsers yet
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my plan is to then take my existing C# cpu code and convert it to compute code to run on the GPU calle dfrom js IN THE BROWSER
Wanna test the basic NoiseLambda I have set up so far?
Only has cylinder, const, and checker lol
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after that I can hand around "noise module stacks" to give many clients the instructions they need to generate things near by like planets
the code is given to the gpu and rendered in the browser
full screen the browser and you have a game that runs on any platform
Has +, -, *, max, inv (invert), and min
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no need to worry about platform concerns either ... the browser is doing that for us :)
we used to trust chrome, and look at them, removing the backspace key for going back :(
20:59
I like that one :P
Messed up like that a bunch
21:45
@ElieSaad Amen brother, amen!
how do you go back now?
alt left?
sucks if you only have one arm
I can still use my mouse but it's the principle that matters!
22:26
Better than Internet Explorer
Fun fact: Mozilla Firefox apparently has WebCL support. War's reaction to it: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/32290545#32290545
It's impossible to use C# to read from a SQL Database that uses Blowfish Hashing apparently. -__-
22:45
Chrome just crashed
@AustinLynn 1) Get data 2) Verify what you want to equal the hashed thing, by using Verify() or something like that
You can't un-hash, but you can hash and verify it
 
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