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7:00 PM
lagging
 
lagging
 
Sometimes I wish I worked from home more
 
lagging
 
exactly
 
I'd drink so much beer
 
7:00 PM
We prefer "developmentally challenged"
 
@misha130 thank u
 
...then again, maybe it's good I don't work from home more
 
@Jeremy: you'd be an alcoholic
 
Good old management, looking out for my liver
@scheien What's the criteria for being an alcoholic?
> Alcoholism is the inability to control drinking due to both a physical and emotional dependence on alcohol.
Symptoms include repeated alcohol consumption despite related legal and health issues. Those with alcoholism may begin each day with a drink, feel guilty about their drinking, and have the desire to cut down on the amount of drinking.
ah, no i don't have that
 
The first line in your quote
Like my mother in other words
 
7:02 PM
:<
idk, sometimes i overthink code i write
some mixture of coffee and alcohol gets me there
 
true
 
!!xkcd ballmer peak
 
obv with fake user and pw
 
7:03 PM
it's a fine line though
 
"apple uses automated schnapps IVs"
haha
 
hi kids
 
hey grandpa
 
user47589
hmmmmm @KalaJ i'm not sure.
 
user47589
@KalaJ i suggest trying this: stackoverflow.com/questions/27420321/…
 
7:07 PM
hey you guys, I find that offensive.

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check
 
@KalaJ: have you tried with port 465 and ssl?
 
I didn't try a new port
I did enablessl
 
> If you tried configuring your SMTP server on port 465 (with SSL) and port 587 (with TLS), but are still having trouble sending mail, try configuring your SMTP to use port 25 (with SSL).
@Codeman hahahaha
 
btw, I'm trying to use wireshark to get the packet
 
7:09 PM
@Codeman I respect you and your astral rotary blades.
 
I just filter > smtp and then click on the shark fin icon to monitor the packet right? lol
 
@Squiggle you're goddamn right you do
 
user47589
wireshark is beyond my expertise. i've tried using it before, but its just too low level for me.
 
@Jeremy: he makes some awesome music
 
@scheien for sure.
 
user47589
 
@scheien my great regret is i didn't learn about his music in college
Because irresponsibility and substances
 
@Codeman I bet your metahuman erotica collection is vast and unusual.
 
@Codeman mmm pasta
 
@Squiggle you can't imagine
 
7:12 PM
@Codeman you're talking to a guy who reads Chuck Tingle. I probably can imagine :)
 
@scheien yeah, stay crunchy is i think my favorite song of his
 
@Jeremy: it flows so nicely.
 
there's lots of non-gender-binary people in Seattle that get upset about pronouns... I just say people are people. If you don't conform to the norms that society is used to, there's no way I can know what you identify as.
 
@Codeman I love when total strangers correct you on pronouns lol
"ok i'll remember for next time...?"
 
I mean, I don't use pronouns really. It mostly only happens in debates on the internet
 
7:14 PM
@Jeremy: I'm totally into that new sub tropical house thingy going on right now. it's perfect for coding sessions
 
like... Seattle is one of the most accepting cities in the world for that sort of thing, I'd imagine
 
user47589
@Codeman i like that. you have a good heart.
 
@Amy <3 u bby
 
Pragmatic and not-a-douche.
 
@scheien have a playlist?
 
user47589
7:15 PM
GROUP HUG
 
@Squiggle hey, I resemble that remark!
 
@Jeremy not really. Just kygo, matoma and others like them
 
oh wait you're that TFS guy... let me reconsider
 
Give me a sec, and I'll make one
 
it's just upsetting when I get called a white male cis shit lord for not 100% agreeing with someone with everything they say.
 
7:16 PM
(reconsidered, and still not-a-douche)
 
@Squiggle nooooo I'm trying to make it better
plus I don't technically work on TFS... and TFS is kind of a pain to maintain for us, too ;)
I work on... I'd call it TFS-nouveau
 
@Codeman goodman. I'm looking forward to seeing what awesome you ship when you ship.
feel free to refactor that sentence to something that makes sense
 
@Squiggle I'm working on some cool stuff personally that allows me to delete large swaths of code from the codebase, that's all I can say :)
also we're apparently starting 20% time next sprint which is neat :)
 
@Codeman gizzajob, m8
 
To: Coding Harry (codyherring@microsoft.com)
Subject: TFS BROKEN PLS HELP
Importance: High
 
7:20 PM
j/k I just got a new job doing TypeScript and R&D.
 
Severity: 1
 
@Jeremy if only that were my real email :)
@Squiggle I've been on TypeScript for a couple weeks now. Still feels weird.
 
it's probably cody.herring@microsoft.com
 
Also learning knockout
@Failsafe nope, not even close
@Jeremy is actually the only one who might be able to guess. Apart from maybe Greg or RyanTernier or ReedCopsey
 
xXherringCoDeRz1337Xx@yahoo.com
 
7:21 PM
@Failsafe damn, you figured it out
 
knew it
 
xXx.MLG.CODER.420.xXx
 
Knockout is for UIs that can't handle the intensity of Angular
 
@Squiggle well... knockout is kind of a microsoft thing, sooooo
 
define intensity
 
7:22 PM
@scheien thanks for the vid earlier - I'd never heard of Jenkees. Awesome stuff!
 
actually we were gonna use React, but it doesn't interact well with Knockout since React uses shadow DOM
 
@Squiggle Ronald Jenkees?
 
yarp
 
blacklotus@microsoft.com
 
@Squiggle np, he's awesome
 
7:22 PM
He is the shit
 
@Codeman all the MS dudes I know in Zurich are Angular/TypeScript mad
 
I like his first album
with throwing fire
thats a good song
 
user47589
Knockout isn't a MS thing, is it?
 
Angular works with TypeScript just fine. React doesn't
 
Why is MS so into TypeScript?
 
7:23 PM
@Amy not officially, but KO is MSFT's thing
 
@TravisJ they invented it?
 
@TravisJ cause it makes JS look like C#
 
then Google were like "Hey, this is better than Dart! Let's run with it."
 
It is the telerik of the JavaScript world :(
 
user47589
I think MS just uses KO in the default MVC template
 
7:23 PM
@Squiggle what's better than Dart? TypeScript?
 
@TravisJ that's the craziest burn i've heard all week
no lie lol
 
@Codeman yeah
gained more traction at least
 
lol
 
oh, ok. I thought you might have been saying Angular was better than Dart and I was like "uhh..."
 
hah no man I (hopefully) know what I'm talking about when it comes to that sort of stuff
 
7:24 PM
yeah, dart is my other fetish
 
It's still technically winter and it's 75 in Boston right now. Global warming doin' us a solid.
 
it's all cool. Knockout is great if you can avoid the boilerplate.
 
@Jeremy: here you go spotify list I guess you can call it just a set of electronic tracks. some tropical & friends
 
@scheien looks nice, thanks!
 
I'm setting it as a collaborative playlist, so you can add up if you find something nice
 
7:27 PM
@Codeman Dart looks pretty nice.
 
BTW y'all should listen to Django Django. Electro-indie-rockabilly stuff with lovely harmonies.
 
oo, that's funky
I like
 
I'm all into Petrucci, recently.
 
user47589
funky fresh?
 
@AdrianK.: he's pretty awesome
@AdrianK.: you play yourself?
 
7:31 PM
@scheien I agree! Have you heard his side-project (unfortunately dead) called "Liquid Tension Experiment"?
 
No, I havent. Is it on spotify?
 
Music hasn't been very interesting lately. I am thoroughly disappointed with what is on my local radio stations and not driven enough to go looking online.
 
knockout is just very simple. It doesn't do much
angular does EVERYTHING
 
@Codeman ALL PRAISE ANGULAR
 
knockout is a front end binding framework. angular is a PLEASE WRITE YOUR ENTIRE APP TO FIT INTO OUR DESIGN framework
 
7:32 PM
@scheien Yup, I play as well, well, to be honest, I try, when I have some spare time between work, kids and sleeping ;)
 
👍
 
user47589
I greatly dislike using Angular.
 
^
 
@AdrianK. a bit different from what the stuff Dream Theather has
 
@scheien It was last time I've checked. They had two albums.
 
7:33 PM
Their source code bothers me
 
user47589
You know what happens when you have a binding that evaluates to undefined? Nothing. Angular silently swallows the error.
 
lol in this one page, we have literally 100 lines of requires
 
@AdrianK. Listening to Acid rain
 
Almost all javascript libraries silently swallow though
 
@scheien Yeah, my problem w/ Dream Theater is that sometimes James' voice is too annoying over time for me. And LTE is instrumental.
 
user47589
7:33 PM
I tried asking on SO, "how do i get angular to emit a warning when a binding doesn't exist" and the responses were 'write unit tests"
 
@TravisJ hhhhhhehehehEHEHEH
 
:D
 
Acid Rain, Kindred Spirit, Biaxident, When The Water Breaks - I love those
 
@Amy heeyyyy you just gotta take a chill pill and go with the flowwwww
 
user47589
i'm chill, bro
 
7:34 PM
It's 8:30pm i should go home
 
@scheien and I have an big ambition to learn to play the entire Biaxident. That one is a masterpiece over masterpieces for me, personally.
 
@AdrianK. I play guitar myself, but DT and LTE is kind of out of my comfort zone. Like listening to it, but not playing it :)
 
I can't music :(
I could probably code it though.
 
@scheien you'll get there, eventually, they are both fun to play and learn. Difficult too.
 
It's hard, takes time to learn, and it's hard.
 
7:36 PM
@TravisJ one of my first programs was Turbo Pascal random sound generator LOL
 
bit boxing
 
you can do it with console.beep
:D
 
:)
 
I ran it only once. Then my parents thought I was illegaly connecting to the 56k internet
 
lol
 
7:37 PM
haha
:)
 
@CuddleBunny Weird, still doesn't work.
 
// bass drum
while (true)
{
  Console.Beep();
  Thread.Sleep(500); // 120bpm
}
 
@AdrianK. I'm totally into eric johnson - s.r.v
 
@scheien here: youtube.com/watch?v=RUaSi0raSiY you'll thank me later lol
I've liked Voodoo Chile (slight return) of S.R.V's
 
yep, that one is nice
 
7:40 PM
@Jeremy - Heh, it even kind of rhymes.
while true
console dot beep
thread dot sleep
repeat
 
use Beep(int, int)
frequency and duration
 
@TravisJ record yourself saying that to a beat, and that's the lyrics
congrats, you are now DJ Tiesto.
 
woo! that guy is awesome
 
eric johnson?
 
tiesto
 
7:41 PM
yeah
 
@Jeremy Well, I wrote a music player with Console.Beep so...
 
oh is that his real name?
 
@TravisJ no
 
@KendallFrey D:
where?
 
I think that was the first thing I ever wrote with C#
@Jeremy On my dad's computer
 
7:42 PM
In vegas in some of the clubs you can stand basically right next to him and watch him work
wow
 
i chopped off a bit of my left ringfinger's tip while making dinner this weekend
no guitar for me for a while :<
 
that sounds painful
 
it wasn't so bad
scary when it happened
very happy the knife wasn't that sharp
 
@Jeremy ouch
 
but on the other hand that was kind of the problem in the first palce
 
7:44 PM
it usually is
 
@Jeremy, @scheien we should collaborate and make a song about C# chat 8-)
 
so did you guys read about the michigan primaries last night? pretty crazy
 
well, hopefully it gets better then
 
I messaged all of my friends and they all voted :)
 
Hi all
 
7:45 PM
@Codeman - No? I watched it?
 
@Codeman 538 called it one of the biggest political upsets in modern history
 
@AdrianK. hehehe, yeah that would be fun. I'm not that good though
 
@mikeTheLiar it's literally never happened before
 
@Codeman Nope, although I'd love to. You have a link perhaps?
 
!!google michigan primary
 
@AdrianK. basically, Bernie was polling 20+ points below Clinton, he ended up winning 50-48
never been that big of a polling mistake before
 
dayumn
 
one big problem was that polls in michigan were only allowed to call landlines
 
Polling has never been very reliable
 
7:47 PM
I hope Clinton wins on the Democrat side and she'll face Trump
 
seems to be the case for many polling institutions
 
I will def buy tons of popcorn before watching them
 
Vegas has Clinton becoming the next president at a 68% chance last I looked
 
young people overwhelmingly vote Bernie and young people overwhelmingly do not have land lines
@AdrianK. why Clinton?
@TravisJ seems reasonable odds. I hope to beat them :)
 
@Codeman I think Trump would handle her better than he'd handle Sanders
 
7:48 PM
@TravisJ they're also apparently saying that there's going to be a democratic congress as well, mainly due to Trump
 
user47589
every candidate who wins the majority of states on Super Tuesday has gone on to win the party nomination. no exceptions.
 
THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY
 
@mikeTheLiar - Could be, although I would be skeptical about that.
 
user47589
Clinton won the majority of states on Super Tuesday. she is likely to win the nomination.
 
7:49 PM
I would rather see Clinton than Bernie personally, but I would still support Bernie if he won
 
@Sippy 5 lbs for 25 pounds, what's that in real money?
 
@Amy this is a year of exceptions :)
 
@mikeTheLiar 25 pounds
 
@TravisJ Bernie overwhelmingly wins among independents - something like 80% of independents in Michigan last night voted Bernie
 
user47589
@Codeman truth
 
7:49 PM
I hope the republicans won't screw up Trump. I've heard that they want to vote for Romney
 
#rekt
 
user47589
I can't believe Romney is now running.
 
user47589
It just reeks of desperation.
 
is anyone here a boss with VS keyboard shortcuts?
 
@Amy wait what
 
user47589
7:50 PM
i'm just a lowly worker.
 
Romney is running?
 
are you kidding?
 
user47589
@mikeTheLiar yup, he is.
 
I'm using LINQ to SQL to query a SQL database, and I want to use a method I wrote to modify what I'm searching for in the database- applying some filters, like replacing all "ã" in a word with "a". How do I apply this function to the query (like from x in db.Table where x.Column1.Contains(text) select x; but with the method applied to the x.Column1 entry and not the text)
 
its still rumors and speculation
 
7:51 PM
@mmf1102 what
 
@Amy teh googles is just telling me to watch his Jimmy Kimmel interview, source?
 
*Conversation with young liberal American voter*
"Would you support Hillary Clinton?"
"Not in a million years. I wouldn't piss on Hillary Clinton if she were on fire. Go eat a bag of dicks, Hillary"
"Would you support Hillary Clinton if the alternative was Donald Trump?"
"Give me that goddamn pen"
 
user47589
Romney filed with the FEC last month to run a campaign
 
@Codeman - Meh, I don't particularly vote based on how others are. I like that Clinton was able to greatly improve our standing in the world when she became secretary of state. I don't think that increasing taxes in the amounts Bernie says is feasible and therefore his projects would not have funding. I want more gun regulations, period. I don't want to see ObamaCare changed.
 
7:52 PM
Disclaimer: All my knowledge on US 2016 presidency is based on podcasts called "Savage Nation" ran by Michael Savage.
 
Does Romney think he's in with a shot now cos no other candidate is actually wanted? Lol
 
@Sippy I have a database which I'm trying to query. I have a method I wrote to modify the search, it's pretty specific, and I want to apply it to the search
 
But I've heard he told that there are rumors that republicans can't stand Trump so much that they want to make a special gathering and propose Romney >_<
 
Its probably not Romney himself, Its probably the current republican establishment who is scared to death of Trump
 
user47589
the Republican establishment is very unhappy with Trump
 
7:53 PM
I actually don't mind Kasich so much.
 
not to the text being checked, but the entry in the table
 
how sad would Cruz and Rubio be if Romney was nominated lol
 
All of the other candidates bother me.
 
@Amy any idea why?
 
Kasich is fine, would probably do decent, but cant win
 
7:54 PM
Yeah, I agree Michael
 
user47589
he exposes how phony they all are.
 
user47589
and doesn't tow the party line
 
Just as I've suspected. Telling like it is gives them rekt
 
Trump does not seem to have any American ideals.
 
user47589
Trump believes in 2 things: making money and himself
 
7:54 PM
The current Republican establishment needs to be put to death anyways
If he makes money for the country, thats good
 
Nat at the cost.
 
cost of?
 
Against protest, against equality for religion, against immigration, super nationalistic, makes people raise their right hand at rallies to show support.... remind you of anyone?
 
@Amy I don't see an issue with that. We all do. That's why I'd rather have my country running by a businessman. But my country is hopeless. Your not, fortunately.
 
user47589
I don't want my country run like a business.
 
user47589
7:56 PM
I want it run like a country.
 
I don't think that it will be runned that way.
 
Historically when we have had presidents that were businessmen, they have done poorly.
 
Our country probably needs to be ran like a business for a while.
 
^ this
 
Just look at the great depression. It was triggered by a businessman president trying to run the country like a business.
Cut all federal support for businesses, didn't back the banks, and the entire market fell out. The economy is not a business. It is a market.
 
user47589
7:58 PM
right
 
There are pros and cons
 
Isn't business direct part of the market?
 
user47589
Just because you're a good businessman doesn't mean you'll be a good statesman.
 
Mostly cons
Worst president in a very long time:
 
user47589
I want people in office who know how to govern, not profit.
 
7:58 PM
Our government has a lot of waste and crap that needs stripped out
 
@Amy and who will pay for them?
 
@Michael in what respect is that 'like a business'? How many businesses do you know that aggressively cut waste?
 
user47589
And who will pay for what?
 
user47589
The taxpayers, obviously.
 
@TomW Sony
 
7:59 PM
"Hoover, a globally experienced engineer, believed strongly in the Efficiency Movement, which held that the government and the economy were riddled with inefficiency and waste, and could be improved by experts who could identify the problems and solve them"
This is the person who sparked the great depression
 
Was just waiting for that answer
 
the point is (a business run properly)
 

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