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11:02 AM
despicable me
 
I hate angular
but thats due to course being out of date with version
 
@Ggalla1779 the concepts haven't changed much. What do you hate about it?
 
wow, found this piece of code that checks if an object is an enum value
protected bool IsInOperation(object stateObject)
{
    var enumType = typeof(MachineLifeCycleState);
    var stateName = Enum.GetName(enumType, stateObject);
    var state = (MachineLifeCycleState)Enum.Parse(enumType, stateName);
    return state == MachineLifeCycleState.InOperation;
}
 
Do your co-workers not realise that C# has this lovely thing called "type safety"?
 
it's used only once and the type of the stateObject that is passed is int
no I don't think so
everything in this solution is an object or a string
and the database consists mostly of key-value pair tables (nvarchar(max), sql_variant)
 
11:11 AM
The inner-platform effect is the tendency of software architects to create a system so customizable as to become a replica, and often a poor replica, of the software development platform they are using. This is generally inefficient and such systems are often considered by William J. Brown et al. to be examples of an anti-pattern. == Examples == Examples are visible in plugin-based software such as some text editors and web browsers which often have people creating plugins that recreate software that would normally run on top of the operating system itself. The Firefox add-on mechanism has been...
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Often apparent with developers too lazy to read and find out how tools are meant to be used
 
OMG I wrote a SSO that is susceptible to session hijacking. Oops.
 
I don't know if "developer" is a title they deserve :(
 
> Another example is the phenomenon of web desktops, where a whole desktop environment—often including a web browser—runs inside a browser
Looking at you, Sitecore
 
synology does that with their NAS software
oh wow
 
11:21 AM
@RoelvanUden Did a security audit find that?
 
protected string GetLifeCycleText(object stateObject)
{
    var enumType = typeof(MachineLifeCycleState);
    var stateName = Enum.GetName(enumType, stateObject);
    var state = (MachineLifeCycleState)Enum.Parse(enumType, stateName);
    return Translation.GetPageCommonText(enumType.Name + "." + stateName, MachineLifeCyclePO.LifeCycleStateDefaultTranslation[state]);
}
 
@Squiggle No, I did, during dev. I didn't consider it at all :D
 
this gem translates "InOperation" to "In Operation"
 
nice catch
 
wish if there was an application, where if I enter an entity, it would tell me all possible attributes
for example if I enter person, I get, Name, Address, Title, etc...
 
11:24 AM
Did you mean your IDE?
 
IDE ?
 
Like.. Visual Studio.
 
nope, like a website, where you could get possible attributes for a class
 
it's called intellisense
hm
 
11:25 AM
But why..?
 
cuz am too lazy to think ?
 
In what scenario?
You can just reflect the attributes onto a page if needed but I don't see the point
 
I want to develop an app, but too lazy to model it, as it's nothing new
 
Too bad, developers tend to do work
 
I want to too, but I don't like reinventing
 
11:28 AM
@RoelvanUden that's a charitable point of view given some of the developers I know
 
@Mathematics You're not reinventing if you're modelling something ~_~
@TomW Hah :D
 
developers are lazy. They even write script to start the coffee machine
 
That's efficiency, not lazyness.
 
@RoelvanUden ok I want to be efficient wish I could get...
 
there is even a page programmingexcuses.com
 
11:31 AM
whats the point of having a repo when one can't even compile it properly
 
@RoelvanUden googlefight.com/… You won
 
"Oh, that was just a temporary fix" is something that I hear every day
 
what is the command to restore nugget packages on a project ?
 
nuget restore
 
nuget restore [<solution>|<packages.config file>|<project.json file>] [options]
 
11:35 AM
hey guys, what is the best way to confirm that two object references are actually referencing the same object in c#?
 
object.ReferenceEquals(left, right)
 
for example var gameState should be the same object aka this.
 
nuget.exe restore
nothing ever going to work for me ever
 
you have to have nuget.exe in your PATH
but since you're using visual studio you can use the package manager instead
if anyone wants it, I wrote a powershell script that restores package for multiple solutions
optimized for speed
because it runs at the start of every one of our CI builds
 
do I even need to restore packages for this project ?
 
11:41 AM
yes
 
shouldn't just building projects trigger packages restore
I am trying above in package manager
 
it should
 
2500 errors and still counting !
 
11:44 AM
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why put broken repositories on GitHub !!
 
is there a packages folder in the root of the Serenity repository?
 
on filesystem ?
or in VS
 
filesystem
 
nope
 
11:45 AM
it looks like they use Cake to build Serenity
 
just nugget.config
 
run their Build.cmd and see if it compiles in visual studio after that
 
wow
now they trying to hack my system !
 
halppppp !!!
 
11:51 AM
did you clone the repository or download it as a zip?
 
download it as zip
is that's why they hacking me ?
 
let me try cloning it
 
or git clone the repo
 
Could someone help me figure out why my simple image downloading code isn't working?
I've been staring at it for 30 minutes and I can't figure it out lol
 
11:56 AM
@StevenLiekens is there a button for it there, can't find it
unless I have to install GitHub desktop first
 
@Squiggle prick
fucking
prick
MONTHS OF HARD WORK
RUINED
 
@Sippy I regret nothing
 
I'm gonna put a post-it note in the fridge
To make others share my pain
 
hi
 
12:02 PM
Good news, SQL server coming to Linux ^
 
nice
 
this will be the year for linux
 
Like each one XD
 
@Sippy what happened?
 
just like last year :P
 
12:03 PM
yesterday I just realized how good the vim on linux looks like
 
any help on how to play music from sd card in windows phone using c# ?
 
@Mathematics have you ever used a command prompt before?
git clone <source> [<destination>]
 
@ntohl Squiggle made me lose the game.
 
@Sippy ohh. I understand with deepest regret
 
>:-]
 
12:08 PM
@StevenLiekens nope but I hacked it though
 
@VinodKumar System.Media.SoundPlayer
 
hacked what?
 
@StevenLiekens sorry I was joking
 
good morning, it's pancake day, how come i don't have pancake
 
I downloaded GitHub desktop but still having same errors
 
12:10 PM
Holy shit I actually have pancakes
Is it pancake day? I feel like you're lying
 
Pancake day was weeks ago m8
but the cafeteria has waffles on the menu! bbl. Lunch.
 
@RoelvanUden any reference link
 
WAFFLEZ!
 
waffles.fm
 
@VinodKumar msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/… use google and MSDN.
 
12:15 PM
@Squiggle
thank you
 
why I can't clone GitHub ?
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@Squiggle the course I was on none of the angular code worked....... I just hated that!
 
@Mathematics you don't have a repository?
 
@Mathematics I would download the internet first
 
@tweray nope, I just want to clone this repo github.com/volkanceylan/Serenity
because when I download it as zip, I get 2500 errors
 
12:22 PM
than You can look up github fast
 
@ntohl sorry :S
 
@Mathematics Download zip works fine for me
 
@RoelvanUden why it gives me 2500 errors then :S
 
2500 errors on build or what
 
The ZIP download gives you 2500 errors?
 
12:23 PM
build
 
then it will be the same thing on git clone
 
Cloning the Git will give you the exact same files.
Blame their repository for not having tags nor stable branches.
 
@RoelvanUden why it works for you and not me
 
first check if your nuget package restore is on
 
@tweray how
 
12:25 PM
!!google turn on nuget package restore
 
Do you really not know how to Google anything?
 
@RoelvanUden it's because I already tried as stated in chat above :|
Restoring wasn't working for me either
it should restore on build anyway
as discussed above in chat
*with steven
 
Literally every single thing you are recommended to do is never even attempted to be searched by you yourself. We're not Google.
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Well, it doesn't restore. Otherwise you wouldn't get those errors.
 
@tweray non of the linked helped...
 
12:26 PM
Hence, activate it. And hence, find out how to do that
You're being a vamp. @Mathematics
 
@RoelvanUden there were some effort in that chat message to be well versed. So much bold. Wow italic
 
@ntohl Huh?
 
@RoelvanUden you would had saved time if you would had told me, right click on solution and activate restore package manager...
 
ok, grats, good bye
 
@Mathematics Well You would had saved time, if You google it the first place
 
12:30 PM
@Mathematics Oh, look at my chat history, you'll see that I do plenty of helping (and spouting sarcasm). It's just that we're not your teacher guiding you from A-Z. We're professional programmers, most of us anyway, with limited time to spend you know.. not working. Hence we simply point you where you need to look and leave it up to you. That is extremely helpful if you'd just search for yourself in the direction you were pointed to.
 
woah guys where did this assumption that we are all obligated to help come to be
we literally have the choice to argue and not help
 
It's often the same deal for you @Mathematics. Really, stop vamp'ing. Asking questions is great, not putting in any effort after asking is not.
 
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i feel like not argue, especially in morning without breakfast
 
why is that regex [^\s]+ is not even close to \S+?
 
@RoelvanUden I didn't, stop forcing it upon me
 
12:35 PM
@ntohl How is it not close?
 
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother to try and help people.
 
Whoa, I go out to lunch and miss drama? Drama!
 
@Mathematics if you came back again, read this: You are help vampiring that's by definition a correct statement. you should feel appreciating that you get the help in first place
 
@RoelvanUden You offer a hand, and they take the whole arm, and some more.
 
whats vamparing
 
12:37 PM
202
Q: The Help Vampire problem

Barry KellyWhat is Stack Overflow's long-term solution for the Help Vampire problem? Quote from article follows: Identifying Help Vampires can be tricky, because they look like any ordinary person (or Internet user, whichever is lesser). But by closely observing an individual's behavior using this hand...

 
urban dictionary gives me oral sex definitions
 
@Mathematics and if you feel getting help if part of your right in this room, you are in a wrong place
 
Damn. It starts to snow, again.
 
oh god vampiring
Giving a girl oral sex while she is on her period.
 
@misha130: dat definition...
 
12:38 PM
starting text>
(@Proto				int
	,@StandardMaturity	varchar(10)
	,@BidLink			varchar(64)
	,@MidLink			varchar(64)
	,@OfferLink			varchar(64)
	,@ValueDateModifier	int
	,@PeriodStart		varchar(16)
	,@PeriodEnd			varchar(16)

2 version of regex for sed>
%s/[^@]\+\(@[^\s]\+\)\s\+\(.*\)/declare \1 \2/g
and
%s/[^@]\+\(@\S\+\)\s\+\(.*\)/declare \1 \2/g
 
@misha130 LOL!
 
I can't stop laughing for a minute now
 
@ntohl After a certain point regular expressions start looking like comics characters swearing.
 
the first one leaves 2.nd and 7th line out
the second one parses the whole well
I wanted to copy the header of an sp, and sed it into declare ...
 
why am I being kicked out constantly ?
 
12:42 PM
if you don't stop dropping unfriendly argument, you will again
 
by who?
 
@tweray oh so kicking out isn't unfriendly, um hypocrates ?
 
@Mathematics It was felt by people in the room that you are abusing the privilege of asking for help in this room, but showing no effort to solve your own problems and instead demanding that others work for you.
 
ah, seems legit, carry on
 
everything okay guys/gals?
 
12:45 PM
it's ok
just one guy doing help vampire, and keep arguing that it's his right
 
Hypocrates: to have a hazardous deficit of crates
 
lol
 
!!urban hypocrates
 
@RoelvanUden what you mean we are not google!!
 
!!help
 
12:46 PM
@AdrianK. Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
Caprica Six is partly google. So it's only partly true, that we are not google
 
@JonClements just in case you are interested, here's where it starting to get weird
33 mins ago, by Mathematics
why I can't clone GitHub ?
 
We're more like a cross between Bing, Wolfram Alpha and an Angry Mob.
3
 
dude, afaik google will return more than 3 links
 
@tweray I just shot tea out of my nose :X
 
12:51 PM
@Squiggle Yes it was an amazing star-worthy out-of-context message :D
 
@Squiggle You should make a venn diagram of that.
 
angry bird/ angry stack
 
woah @RoelvanUden blew up there quite a bit
haven't seen that before
 
@Squiggle did your monocle also fall out and your pocket watch spring open?
 
@TomW does monocle fall out, or off?
 
12:57 PM
@ntohl aaaand we got the question of the day. Any takers?
 
What is a monocle?
 
@scheien dude...
 
!!urban monocle
!!alive
 
@tweray That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: live
 
!!monocole
 
12:58 PM
@SteffenWinkler That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!google monocle
 
@SteffenWinkler sweet
 
it's urban done or cap problem?
 
A monocle is a type of corrective lens used to correct or enhance the vision in only one eye. It consists of a circular lens, generally with a wire ring around the circumference that can be attached to a string or wire. The other end of the string is then connected to the wearer's clothing to avoid losing the monocle. The antiquarian Philipp von Stosch wore a monocle in Rome in the 1720s, in order to closely examine engravings and antique engraved gems, but the monocle did not become an article of gentlemen's apparel until the nineteenth century. It was introduced by the dandy's quizzing glass...
 
12:59 PM
dandy
 
@Ggalla1779 quite
 
Hahh... " that a monocle could easily fall off with the wrong facial expression. "
I got the answer.
 
@TomW the jolt from the shock-slash-laughter made my hat settle all askew
 

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