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12:00 PM
@DavidArenburg I feel I've gotten to the married with kids stage with R.
 
@DavidArenburg you see me relieved ;-)
 
Sometimes I feel it so awesome. Other times I get so frustrated.
 
@BrodieG The rep on SO was always a mystery to me.
@BrodieG Are you married?
 
@DavidArenburg Yes, with children.
 
@BrodieG me too
4 actually
@CathG not sure what you mean by that :)
 
12:03 PM
@CathG I'm not sure you'll find the typical cross section out here.
Maybe rename to GMT:(GMT + 3)?
 
@DavidArenburg, you've got 4 children and still have time to go on SO in sundays ? I'm impressed ! (I only have 2 and find it hard to go around the computer at home...)
 
Sorry, GMT:(GMT + 3L)
 
@BrodieG btw, you can ask for ownership if you want as per room rules and play around with the name
 
@BrodieG, yes I figured that out ;-)
 
@CathG You are probably the one who's rasing them
I'm just a father... (/me hides)
 
12:05 PM
yep' and my "typical cross-section" is the one spending time on sport site :-)))
actually, he helps me raise them a lot but I'm the only one feeding them and that take some time ;-)
how old are you kids?
 
@CathG 7, 6, 3, 1
 
so you're supposed to be pretty busy too ;-) (mine are 1 and 4.5)
 
@CathG No, not really....
My wife doesn't work
She works several hours from home
but I do agree with you that I could be a better father
 
@DavidArenburg Since I'm not in that time zone, probably doesn't make sense for me to take ownerhsip.
 
@BrodieG, a name based on GMT is appealing
 
12:10 PM
@BrodieG doesn't matter really
@BrodieG It's just a SO friends room
 
mines 1 and 4.8 :)
 
Sounds a bit childish...
@zx8754 You an cath almost the same
 
@DavidArenburg I didn't want to doubt your father skills, sorry if it went out the wrong way :-/
 
I'm chatting from 2 accounts at the same time
 
@CathG Nah, today I heard two things I was runnig from
that I'm addicted to SO, and need to improve my parenting skills. Totally woth it
 
12:12 PM
@zx8754, we're kind of synchronous!
 
@zx8754 seems like akrun already took care of it in comments
 
and actually my older child is 4.75 so either we're indeed the same, either you're my husband in disguise ;-)
 
Can't figure out how to request ownership...
 
we can leave solely in his trusted hands
@BrodieG Just tell me you want it. NVM
 
how about gmtRs?
 
12:14 PM
@CathG 4yo was born end of June
 
@BrodieG the only problem with this
is that I dont want it R related
 
@zx8754, end of July for mine
 
that can offend the other rooms owners
that will think I'm trying to compete with them
@BrodieG Maybe just "people in Euro time zones chatting about non-R things "
 
room topic changed to gmtRs: R people chatting about non-R things (but all are welcome). Over 1k rep - gets writing access. Over 10K rep can ask for Ownership (no tags)
room topic changed to gmtRs: R people in Euro time zones chatting about non-R things (but all are welcome). Over 1k rep - gets writing access. Over 10K rep can ask for Ownership (no tags)
@DavidArenburg Sorry, didn't see that.
 
12:16 PM
without the "R" part
 
Feel free to change it to whatever.
Obviously...
 
room topic changed to gmtRs: Euro time zones chatting about non-R things (but all are welcome). Over 1k rep - gets writing access. Over 10K rep can ask for Ownership (no tags)
 
@DavidArenburg if you are trying to control addiction to SO, managing this chatroom won't help :)
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room topic changed to GMTs: Euro time zone chat. Over 1k rep - gets writing access. Over 10K rep can ask for Ownership (no tags)
@zx8754 I'm not planning managing it too much
I just want a place to share some thoughts/laughs some times
without being OT/kicked
If this will work, we will have many owners who will mange this room instead
A wise man once said "All the beginnings are hard"
@zx8754 but you are right about the addiction. Working on it.
Oh, who did just star it. Confess :)
And another star... :(
 
So long as one more person doesn't star it, you'll never know BWAHAHAAH
 
12:27 PM
@BrodieG I know
I didn't star it
zx also cant
so you both did :(
 
argh, busted
Didn't know zx couldn't
 
@BrodieG did you ever try to star your own message?
 
If it did, then I would upvote every single post of my own
 
Did I mention it is really early where I am ....
 
it is interesting how before the election ended, there review queue was almost empty
now that it's over we already on 700
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12:30 PM
politics
 
@zx8754 Yup
 
So the solution is to have elections quarterly...
 
daily
 
I'm the worst reviewer. I tried a couple of times but gave up when I couldn't filter on R tag.
 
We should present someone from as a candidate next year
@BrodieG you can actually filter on
I have it working for me
 
12:32 PM
I wonder if there is a chat room - "UpvoteEachOthersPosts"
 
@DavidArenburg, I do confess first star
 
The "low quality" queue is very easy for all tags though
@zx8754 that is just too childhish...
 
:)
 
though there are some very ridiculous chat rooms around here
i hope this won't be one of them
 
@DavidArenburg I was looking at profiles, couldn't see anyone with [r] tag
 
12:34 PM
@DavidArenburg Actually, I think the problem was that I went there, then found there actually were no [r] reviewable items. Ideally I'd be able to set up the little counter on the status bar to tell me how many [r] related review items there are.
 
@zx8754 because there isnt one
@BrodieG how, JS?
 
@DavidArenburg No idea, that's the problem.
 
@BrodieG ROLF
You are quite funny on mornings
I'm wondering to bring the close votes bot from SO CLose votes room
 
@DavidArenburg, ok, I get almost all the acronyms but ROLF : ????????
 
ROFL
 
12:37 PM
Roll on the Linoleum Floor
 
and I confess, I also don't know what "OT" means....
 
But make sure you don't laugh.
Don't ask David why he likes to roll on Linoleum Floors.
 
@CathG Off Topic
 
@BrodieG, thanks for the translation (I guess... because I must say I still don't get it........)
 
@zx8754 I always get that F and L in the wrong place
 
12:38 PM
@DavidArenburg thanks
 
@CathG Its like LOL
just very hard LOL
 
oh ok, this I get ! (why does it have to be linoleum though ?)
 
When you laughing so hard that the boss gets upset
 
ROWF would be nice too ;-)
 
@CathG Where would you roll elsewhere?
 
12:40 PM
then here it would be ROCCF
so, wooden floor for first one (trying to bring some elegance here)
and crappy carpet for the second one, which is what I have in my office...
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I'm having visions of people rolling on all sorts of surfaces instead of laughing.
 
I feel like we are going full retarded here... (no offence to anyone :))
Ok, it seems like I killed it
 
@DavidArenburg, just had some correlation coefficients to compute ;-)
 
@DavidArenburg Just too busy bashing my head with bash scripting for HPC
 
12:55 PM
@zx8754 I'm doing the same
Trying to run R from .bat file
@Arun !
whats up
 
@zx8754 I once wrote a 1K line bash script.
 
akrun is undercover @Arun
 
Never again.
 
@zx8754 Nope.
@zx8754 Arun is the maintainer of the data.table package (defacto)
 
@BrodieG anything more than 100 lines, I get lost in it...
@DavidArenburg I should probably start putting smileys for my jokes
 
1:04 PM
@zx8754 yeah I know, I just didn't want Arun to be offended...
 
1:19 PM
Yes, David.
 
@Arun Just saying hello, I guess...
 
1:45 PM
Here's a topic for discussion
why everyone are so obssesed with Hadleyverse?
To solve everything either with or with ?
Nothing else is acceptable
Oh thats OT here I guess...
 
I actually hardly think of using anything except base R. When I can't find a quick way, I start remembering all the cool packages that are out there...
I only learn about dplyr on SO (so not a long time ago...)
 
@CathG yes me too.
I don't use it in real life
 
you're like a master in data.table though
(one day I will ask you to teach me everything you know about it ;-) )
 
@CathG not really. you have the master of data.table is present in this room currently
 
oh yes, one of the "genitor", is that correct ?
 
1:57 PM
@CathG There are very nice vignettes here
@CathG yes, check out Aruns profile. Nice word btw
 
@DavidArenburg, thanks :-). I have a memo somewhere to remember working on data.table...
and I'm keeping the Q "data.table vs dplyr" as favourite to work on that too someday
 
@CathG yes me too. I actually even read both answers once and provided some feedback
but usually I don't read such long answers
But I guess we have other rooms do discuss R...
 
2:14 PM
I told you this room will not be totally R free ;-)
 
room topic changed to GMTs: Euro time zone general chat. Over 1k rep - gets writing access. Over 10K rep can ask for Ownership (no tags)
Ok, updated the title to make it clearer
 
 
2 hours later…
4:49 PM
Looks like this is really the party place to be :-)
Does India count as being in the Euro time zone?
 
5:16 PM
@AnandaMahto It was BrodieGs idea... I don't think it matters what time zone you at
 
 
3 hours later…
8:04 PM
@BrodieG congrats on the 20K
 
 
1 hour later…
9:06 PM
@DavidArenburg Thanks. The first 10K felt like a breeze, but the second took me forever.
 
@BrodieG I had the opposite felling
this last 10 K were very fast for me
@BrodieG I remember when I just joined and asked my first question
you were the one who answered it
you've put some stuff there that I've learnt only much later
 
@DavidArenburg Wow, feels like you've been around longer. You're on a breakneck rep pace. I think I was at about that pace for the first 10K, and then dropped off substantially.
 
9:21 PM
@BrodieG Yes, I'm a bit addicted....
though I'm trying hard to reduce activity
was thinking to not post anything today
 
by starting a new chat room, right
 
didnt go so well....
 
;)
 
@BrodieG I'm not giving too much hope for this room
I think it will die soon :)
Do you remember this?
 
@DavidArenburg yes, definitely, that was a fun one (and my top answer to boot). I tracked it down when you alluded to it earlier. I hadn't made the connection that you had asked it.
 
9:29 PM
@BrodieG I was an active user for about a month back then
 
 
1 hour later…
10:29 PM
Hi, I'm first in such a room, just pass my 1k pts :) good to see great answerers here :)
 
@JanGorecki congrats on the 1K. That was one of the tough hurdles for me. Gets a lot easier from that point on.
 
@DavidArenburg turn on your addiction from SO to package development :)
it can be addictive too :)
@BrodieG thanks, I'm not going to chase to 10k :P
to few to learn only from answering
 
@JanGorecki I've learnt practically everything I know from answering
But I'm lacking both of you skills of writing a package
I simply to lazy to read 20 pages manuals...
 
this is nothing
 
or 200
 
10:38 PM
I don't even use devtools while creating package
which some considers as new easy way
just run package.skeleton()
and fill the directories with files
define which functions are exported
roxygen2 / devtools::document() will produce Rd from simple metadata near your code
when I've created my first package
I was totally noob in R
it is in CRAN for a long time already :)
submitting to CRAN is more painful
 
@JanGorecki what manual did you read?
 
not sure, I believe some 1 page example
maybe even on SO
package structure is the same, as long as you don't use C it should be straightforward
just to put function definition in scripts in R subdir
just try `package.skeleton("mynewpkg")
if you use RStudio
you have dedicated buttons for build/check package
also to document using roxygen
for experience R developer it is a 45min to create valid working package
wow package.skeleton seems to be more robust
it puts objects from your current global env into new package data
wow
and all the docs
so you can simply do the analysis
and at the end run package.skeleton
to turn your working environment into package :)
 
hmmm
thanks for the info
ill take a look
ive just got pinged from work for some urgent client request
and it 2 am here
damn yankees
 
10:53 PM
I follow you now on gh so I will see your progress on package dev ;)
 
@JanGorecki You should make a quick course for me
 
Do you have any code you would like to turn into pkg?
as it might be hard to start without it :)
 
@JanGorecki That's a good question...
I actually had some ideas, but the someone wrote a similar package in C++
 
still you can wrap on that package your functions
less work and expected pkg api :)
 
Ok, lets catch up on this some other day
it too late here
and i have much to do
 
11:02 PM
not sure but I remember Ananda Mahto's package wraps data.table calls into more user friendly function calls
 
yes
he does that alot
all his packages are wrappers as he don't know C/C++ IIRC
neither do I
 
same me :)
but this is not a problem
as we utilize good pkgs
so our pkgs can be as good
 
OK, good luck with your late work. I'm going back to pkg dev :)
 
c u later
 
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