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1:25 PM
OH NO THE CHAT SERVER IS DOWN
oh wait...
 
1:35 PM
@JasonC You around?
Can I undelete my answer from this meta post?
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Q: Can I see the 10 candidates in the primary that would proceed to election phase?

AnthonI up/down voted the candidates during the primary of the 2014 moderator elections. How can I see the 10 candidates that would proceed to the election phase if the election phase would start right now? I understand that the ordering is random to not influence this initial voting unduly and that i...

 
@slugster It's not deleted right now
 
@Andy It is now
 
can no one fork it and host from another server without load issues?
I couldn't stomach running Java on my server otherwise I'd be game :P
 
umm... got 4 spare cores, 8gb ram spare and a 40gb in 1gb connection on ours... so the team was considering was offering it to @JasonC for a bit.. but not sure the amount of time to port it... for the remainder of the primaries is really worth it now...
 
where is his github page?
 
1:45 PM
needs to be plugged into a front end
 
thanks, I'll see if I can get it running
 
If you get it going then make sure you head on over and answer that question. It's a great tool and anything that engages people in the election process is good.
 
hum, have to install java, this might take a while
 
Umm... think we've already got Java on the sopython server... sometimes we play minecraft
 
:O
 
1:49 PM
is there a group of Terraria players anywhere on SO?
 
no idea, try Arqade chat
 
bah, nevermind. I have no idea how to start the program
: (
 
You need the tomcat container installed as well.
Start tomcat first, then start the program by compiling it.
 
I'm a c# person. I'm allergic to this stuff.
 
y u tri 2 run it den
 
1:52 PM
because I have a linux server available and I like to try things out.
I also don't like to think things through very much
 
We should buy sochat.com and share subdomains among the chat communities.
 
@Unihedro the problem with that is it'd fragment community knowledge outside the SE network
 
Oh?
 
I think it would just be for hosting bots and such, not for human interaction
 
^^
 
1:54 PM
@Unihedro someone in hong kong owns it already :(
 
why would you need a domain for bots?
 
ironically...
Uni, go beat that person up
 
@JonClements admin panel as a webapp? :p
@gunr2171 ay looking it up now
 
sochat.space is $7/year
sochat.co is like $13
 
.io?
 
1:55 PM
sochat.ninja is also cheap
io is 41/year
 
crazy
What about .guru?
 
Ohh, Namecheap has a sale for .ninja
 
well, we can register the domain for under $20, but you still have to have something to host it on
 
heroku
 
1:58 PM
I tried calling "+852.29590898" (registrant phone) locally (so without the +852), no one picked it up
Maybe I shouldn't be calling them at midnight.
Anyway, my point for that was so each room that wanted their own page wouldn't have to buy their own domain name. :p
 
closey.sochat.net
plus, subdomains can point to different IP addresses, spreading out the load
 
how much load is expected?
really
 
for a normal chat bot, not very much
(I have no hard numbers)
 
@rlemon <10Kbps
 
but if anything, it allows you to run software on a different server, like if you already have something set up
on a per-subdomain basis
 
2:37 PM
Umm... well if @JasonC wants to chip in - Tomcat's running with the manager app and is ready to take a WAR for deploy - but it's not my cup of tea... and don't have much time to spend further on it
 
I might just do a node version later tonight
keep it handy for next year
all that needs to be done is steal his front end and tweak it
 
I just dumped this into tavern
> sochat.io ftw
> It's all about the .io. It's so web 3.0
 
did you actually buy it?
 
Because I alt-tabbed away and came back, making the crazy assumption that non-election chat would be in the tavern
But nooooo
No, but I could
 
I was gonna buy .ninja
but I own too many joke domains
 
2:44 PM
... me tooo
 
Hehe.
 
wanna work on a compile to js lang with me? anyone?
 
I still own stackovertroll.com
Though I never did anything with it
 
Jabbascript. JS in huttese
I already own jabbascript.org
 
@rlemon What does that mean?
 
2:47 PM
think coffeescript
Che 1..10 Bsha $i
    Choy $i Be 5
        Bolla foo

Bota foo ($a) ->
    Chalya $a*$a
for( var $i = 1, $l = 10; $i < $l; $i++ ) {
  if( $i === 5 ) foo.call(this);
}
function foo($a) {
    return $a * $a;
}
or something
 
@rlemon - needs more jquery
 
Let's make a statically typed version of Javascript. It'll be so hilarious watching people try to make things work with it :P
 
Martijn is over 9000!!!!
 
@Unihedro TypeScript
 
:/
 
3:00 PM
OK
sochat.io exists
You can use freedns.afraid.org to add arbitrary sub-domains
and point them wherever you want
 
How does that work?
 
@Unihedro Unicorn droppings.
 
Magic :p
FreeDNS has existed forever
Once a domain's owner sets a domain's DNS servers to use ns*.afraid.org, anybody can add arbitrary subdomains
 
:O
 
@TravisJ See ^^ for when I bet he would be :p (that was about 4 hours ago though!)
 
3:10 PM
@meagar isn't working for me
 
^
I think you have to register the domain as your own first and set it to public. :p
 
I click "many more" to get your domain
> The security code was incorrect, please try again.
every time
 
http://freedns.afraid.org/domain/add.php
This tells me that it's not there. :p
NEW PROFILES ARE LIVE!!!
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@slugster Sure, go ahead. Let's start sharing the link. It'll be a good experiment. I don't think it will be an issue and if it is I'll just set up a quick account on Bluehost and change the dyndns entry. cc @Unihedro @gunr2171 @JonClements
 
cool
 
3:24 PM
I was curious what my reached number would be :)
 
@JasonC I think meagar is trying to set up FreeDNS for sochat.io.
 
cc @meagar
 
I think it might take a bit
FreeDNS runs a nightly thing to check whether your nameservers are setup correctly, it's going to think sochat.io is "broken" until then
 
Also I'm going to to throw together an app to split up the candidate questionnaire answers, which wasn't worth the effort if it wasn't public.
 
@meagar Oh, you added it already?
Thanks for your work in advance though, it will be helpful :p
^^
 
3:27 PM
@JasonC what do you need from me (the team)? the manager panel is installed
 
Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it. For now let's just see how it goes.
 
@JasonC - An app or a user script
 
Finally, finally, new profiles
 
@TravisJ An app; it's not the best approach as far as server load goes but I don't know JS enough to do it client side.
 
@JasonC as I'm at that point now where I want to know even if it's not going to be used this time... part of SO is learning.... so... not quite sure what I'm doing stupid to not get it working on one server etc... :p
 
3:29 PM
@JasonC - Just collapse all the answers and expand them on click
@JonClements - Get what working?
 
@TravisJ It's more than that; it was to address this:
This thread is rather unpleasant to read. It would help to directly compare the answers of the single candidates to a single question. Eg. I would like to compare the comments to the first question. The current thread format forces me to scroll heavily and loose oversight. Furthermore candidates cite the questions in different ways. — Thomas Kilian yesterday
I was going to parse the answers, split into question responses, then reorganize by question instead of by candidate.
@JonClements You mean for hosting the vote monitor app? The easiest thing would be for me to send you a WAR file then you to deploy it. It would create the app at /SOVoteMonitor
 
@JasonC gnuplot. I think I can write an awk script that adds quotes to the names, so I can just copy, paste, and plot
 
@yellowantphil Can gnuplot read CSVs?
 
@JasonC maybe. I think I can make it work without them though
 
@JasonC - Interesting. I suppose you could do that but it will be a lot of effort for a small amount of payoff in my honest opinion :) As a learning exercise it could work.
 
3:36 PM
I could replace all spaces with underscores, and then replace all commas with spaces, if I had a CSV
 
Or you could randomly replace spaces with tabs
 
@yellowantphil What's the ideal input for gnuplot? One user per line, space separated name and value (no spaces in name)?
 
@JasonC that or quote marks around the names. Don't bother generating data dumps for my benefit though. Pretty sure I know how to plot the data as is now. I just didn't think of it last night
Undo is pulling ahead of Jason C now
 
I was hoping Jason would advance, they should take 11 :P
 
Jason should be made moderator for his public service in providing live election stats
 
3:43 PM
Jason deserves an honorable mention.
 
I was disappointed reading some of the answers to the questionnaire to see how many of the candidates would actually act without consulting the community when it comes to taking action against sets of behavior.
 
@TravisJ are you planning to add a comment to the answers you're talking about? Then other people could see what you're talking about and decide whether they agree
 
Just wget it.
 
@yellowantphil - No because the candidates who took that stance do not seem viable from the vote counts so I didn't want to pile on them.
 
@JasonC I can do nothing at work
@TravisJ fair enough
@JasonC I'll look at that when I get home. Thanks.
 
3:48 PM
@yellowantphil It outputs:
"Martijn Pieters" 9345
"meagar" 6222
"Jon Clements" 5078
"Matt" 4592
"Second Rikudo" 4443
"deceze" 3463
"Raghav Sood" 2687
"Paresh Mayani" 2602
"Jeremy Banks" 2422
"Undo" 2169
"Jason C" 2151
"Ed Cottrell" 2117
"slugster" 1999
"Qantas 94 Heavy" 1493
"Andy" 1199
"Sergey K." 1130
"vcsjones" 953
"rekire" 717
"Thomas Owens" 677
"Moshe" 604
"Michael Irigoyen" 570
"codeMagic" 465
"hichris123" 381
"AstroCB" 295
"Mooseman" 292
"Idan Adar" 286
"Unihedro" 182
"Shree" 151
"Hemang" 142
"Amit Joki" 46
 
@JasonC looks very gnuplottable
how about somebody writes a bot that copies Jason's web page into a new chat room once every minute :)
...or I could spend my time at work doing work
 
@yellowantphil - Doing work on the new bot to copy Jason's web page! :p
 
The new profiles wreck my activity graph generator, lol.
 
@JasonC oh, okay, I'm happy with that... or can just give you access to the manager app thingy
 
@JonClements That works too; jason.cipriani, gmail, com, I'm going to keep it on my server for now unless it proves to be too much. I'm actually not so much worried about bandwidth as I am about my router sucking.
Thanks for all your help and looking into other servers, guys, really kind of you all.
 
4:04 PM
 
Nice.
Makes me want to line up the vote columns
 
I could make my website plot the results and refresh once a minute
 
Everyone is cooperating, busy and happy :D
 
@yellowantphil Sure. Also, /votes and /votes?t=c serve json data. Do the t=c once at the start to get candidate info; the values in /votes will always be the same order as that initial info list (sorted by user id, not votes).
The r field in both is the current app version number, fyi.
 
@JasonC I'm not cool enough to know anything about JSON
 
4:08 PM
Me neither, lol.
 
@yellowantphil All you need to know is that if you take away the 'A' from Jason, you get Json.
 
@Unihedro it all makes sense now
 
@JasonC email sent from joncle
 
Yeah I use XML when I can because it's too awkward to talk to clients about JSON. This is why I'm not a web programmer.
 
I haven't been up to date on JavaScript things in about 15 years :-\ I should probably figure out what's been happening since then
 
4:11 PM
@JasonC watch -cd -n5 "curl -s http://disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor/raw | column -t"
Comes close
But the users' names have spaces
Can you use another delimiter (or remove the spaces from the users?)
@JasonC And it isn't too awkward to talk about XML? :o
 
@SecondRikudo become part of the solution and change your SO name to SecondRikudo
 
What kind of clients are you having?
 
@Shog9 are some stats going to be compiled regarding this SO election vs last... it feels like there's either more people able to vote or interested in voting this time around... My gut feeling is there's something about having SO have its own Meta, but also guessing more active users, or possibly more interested users (is that down to having it on its own site now etc...)...
 
watch -cd -n5 "curl -s disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor/raw | column -ts '\"'"
There we go!
 
@JasonC did you get my email?
 
4:25 PM
@JonClements Negative
 
@JonClements - Was the sidebar announcement present during the entire election last year?
 
@TravisJ I thought it was (explaining the process and such)
 
@JasonC did you receive it at least?
 
@JanDvorak I did not receive an email.
 
bah... email jon at sopython.com I'll reply
 
4:28 PM
@JonClements Sent
I love that it's 2015 and we're still scratching our heads about email.
 
@JasonC We're at an exciting age when we can land a probe on a meteor 500 million km from earth, but can't stream it without flash.
3
 
@JasonC replied
 
^ quote of the day.
 
@JasonC replied?
 
No, dammit.
 
4:31 PM
:D
 
I replied to JC :)
(not myself of course - as that would be really, really odd)
 
||s/stream/stuttering/
 
@JanDvorak Only in room 17
 
oh. right.
 
is there anyone from India, contesting the election.
 
4:39 PM
@Mavrick Why does it matter?
 
Just wanna know
 
@Mavrick Why don't you look over the profiles? There are a few candidates from India, yes.
 
But why would only people from India contest the election?
By contesting did he mean partaking in?
 
@TravisJ Probably
 
Okay nvm then
 
4:44 PM
hay man how can i vote for someone
 
look here>
 
@JanDvorak whr?
 
--->
 
plz drop if there is any link
 
4:46 PM
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Q: There's an election going on. What's happening and how does it work?

ben is uǝq backwardsThe community bulletin says that there is a moderator election occurring. How does the election work and how can I get involved? Return to FAQ index

 
@Mavrick FYI: "plz" is rude
 
why are the freehand circles on the answer blue!?
 
blue freehand circles?! What is this meta coming to :(
 
it originally came from here: meta.stackexchange.com/revisions/135056/2
 
somebody edited my last meta.SO question to include red freehand circles, because they could not believe that I didn't do it myself
 
4:56 PM
@TravisJ at least they're not squares
 
@yellowantphil That's awesome.
 
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Q: Can I see the 10 candidates in the primary that would proceed to election phase?

AnthonI up/down voted the candidates during the primary of the 2014 moderator elections. How can I see the 10 candidates that would proceed to the election phase if the election phase would start right now? I understand that the ordering is random to not influence this initial voting unduly and that i...

 
@shog9 while most appreciation for your response... the Q was @Shog9 are some stats going to be compiled regarding this SO election vs last... it feels like there's either more people able to vote or interested in voting this time around
eg: how many people are eligible to vote this time and such? Or does that only get computed at the end of the errr... "finale"?7
 
@JasonC perpare for your server to melt and your bandwidth to disappear
the barbarian hordes will visit your vote stats page now
 
I have faith in my ISP and the old laptop that's running the server. I'm preparing for my router to melt.
 
5:09 PM
Take pictures if it does
 
It's on a high shelf in my hallway, could be a mess. Maybe I should lay down some tarp.
 
@gunr2171 not photos! video footage!
oh wait... don't film the house you're house burning in, run instead
horrible feeling I just paraphrased a bash quote
 
@yellowantphil - I have it open in 50 tabs.
Not really though, it is just in one.
 
5:25 PM
one tab in each window, and 50 windows
 
There is no real difference in chrome between one or the other.
It is kind of fun to watch, but I feel like I could be moar productive ;)
gl on your pursuit @Jason
 
Yeah it's not as fun now that activity has died down. Yesterday was intense.
Thanks lol
 
@JonClements After the end of the election, the same stats displayed on the last election will be visible on the current. Just compare them...
 
5:40 PM
Gap between Undo and Ed down to 53 votes.
 
@JasonC You could add a milliMartijns column to your vote stats page :)
 
@yellowantphil Haha. I would seriously consider that only if I could access non-public data for the activity stats.
Speaking of which I generated time-of-day plots yesterday but haven't shared them yet. It's fascinating. Just line graphs, total events by day of week in past year right now. Working on punchcard style.
 
what scale would it be to express votes as a fraction of Martijn's vote? maybe I am misusing the concept of milliMartijns
punchcard sounds awesome
 
Example:
 
:o
I was afraid the data would look messy, but that's awesome
^Thirsty Thursday, hitting SO while at the bar
 
5:53 PM
Yeah some of them are super messy, some are nice. I did smooth the graph slightly, and used an output renderer that drew curves instead of straight lines.
 
looks like it could be useful for choosing a set of candidates that's active 24 hours per day
rather than just guessing based on timezones where people live
especially if you generate the graphs for current mods too
 
ah I missed to answer the questions
@JasonC thank you for linking the meta question
 
@yellowantphil Yeah, well that's related to the internal struggle I'm having right now. I could give every graph the same vertical scale so you can compare relative activity between candidates, or I could use different scales, to focus just on that particular user's activity patterns. I'm leaning towards the latter, since the purpose is activity over day. Comparisons between users are already available in the other plots.
I am working on generating a dataset of all the current mods combined, that's the one I might post for mods. To give an indication of where the gaps are currently, which is really the more relevant point.
 
@JasonC oh, that's a good idea
the same scale on everyone would just say that no one's ever active except for Martijn
 
Yeah basically, lol.
 
5:59 PM
@JasonC Could go for a logarithmic scale
 
cc @MartijnPieters ^ (see above graph), since you were talking about punchcards. Working to find a way to get jfreechart to render something that looks nice.
 
@JasonC Reminds me of a snake eating an elephant.
 
@durron597 I tried log scale for the activity plots; it made a big mess. They're on the github page. I suspect they'd also even out the daily activity profile a bit too much and take away from the clarity, but I could try it. If I switch to punchcards it won't matter anyways. E.g. raw.githubusercontent.com/guanqun/git-punchcard-plot/master/…; then my only goal would be to tweak the scales so that activity patterns were as clear as possible.
The line graphs lack clarity too. E.g @SecondRikudo's plot is:
 
@SecondRikudo Pourquoi un chapeau ferait-il peur ?
 
Sticking to just the past year helped a bit. E.g. I think bluefeet changed time zones at some point.
 
6:03 PM
@durron597 Niet.
 
It's especially noisy for lower (publicly available) activity candidates.
 
@JasonC that plot still looks useful. 0:00 to 5:00 is a large gap
 
In any case, I'm getting there. I at least have the data now, it's just a matter of visualizing it.
 
@yellowantphil Makes sense, given that I was asleep at the time :D
 
Martijn can moderate in his sleep
 
6:05 PM
Time of day is UTC, btw.
 
@yellowantphil Time for Martijn Pieters facts?
 
@durron597 yes
 
@yellowantphil Data suggests otherwise, haha. But if we pretend he has a sock that he uses to moderate in his sleep, we can keep the legend alive.
I should censor the low points on martijn's graph to leave the mystery open.
 
@yellowantphil I never claimed to be Martijn.
 
@SecondRikudo does your graph make sense to you?
@SecondRikudo if you were Martijn, you wouldn't make any excuses like needing to sleep
 
6:07 PM
@yellowantphil Yeah
@yellowantphil Technically, I don't "sleep"
I meditate. Gods don't need sleep.
Why no grace period?
 
@SecondRikudo Are you an elf?
 
@durron597 Close.
 
@JasonC so Martijn doesn't sleep on Sundays?
 
I'm an immortal ninja god that capable of wiping out countries with his mind.
 
@SecondRikudo That's basically the same thing.
 
6:10 PM
@SecondRikudo how is that differnt from Martijn?
 
Martijn closes his eyes and charges off his USB port for an hour on Sundays, that's about it.
 
@SecondRikudo s/countries/orcs/ s/mind/bow and arrows/
 
@JasonC that's what it looks like on the graph, yeah
 
@yellowantphil Martijn is an immortal ninja god that's capable of wiping out entire leagues of spammers with his mind.
My powers are a bit more, concrete.
@durron597 I've never seen an elf wipe out an entire country before.
 
I should add "Power Consumption (Watts)" to the daily activity graphs.
Haha that just reminded me of this masterpiece pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen. The plots it generates are priceless.
 
6:12 PM
max on y axis of Second Rikudo's graph: 57
max on Martijn's: 600
 
@yellowantphil I was unsatisfied with the size of the barbarian hordes: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/290346/… Hopefully I'm not inviting disaster.
 
5
Q: 2015 Election Live Vote Monitor

Jason CI wrote a live election activity monitor which you can use to see the current status and watch the votes live; it shows the cutoff line for the final phase as well. We've actually been transfixed by it since the election began over in the election chat room. Be warned, it can be addicting (If...

 
how does the election works? I mean how can I apply in case it is possible
 
@JasonC make Shog send out a notification about your page
@kurenn it's too late to add new candidates
 
oh thanks
 
6:23 PM
@kurenn you need 3000 rep anyway. you and I aren't eligible
 
@kurenn The nomination phase ended a couple days ago, but keep an eye out for the next election (they're roughly yearly but it varies). Stay active and participate in the mean time.
 
oh, is Jeremy #10? maybe @JasonC can pass him
 
so my answers are added good that I have written them already that saved some time^^
 
6:35 PM
Quick everyone - downvote @Martijn before he breaks SO!
 
@yellowantphil No that image was old. I added a disclaimer. I'll remove it if it's too misleading.
 
@JonClements you mean when he reach 10k he gets automatically admin?
 
@JasonC yeah I noticed that a minute ago. too late to delete my comment
 
@Jason you have catered for more than 5 digits, right?
 
@JonClements I don't use fixed width anything anywhere; no problems until Martijn hits 2,147,483,647 votes.
 
6:39 PM
@JasonC which will happen tomorrow
 
phew
 
how to vote guys ???
 
up and down arrows
 
@JasonC thanks :)
 
6:47 PM
based on that people reached count I'm #12^^
 
quick, watch the vote ticker now
 
why?^^
 
saurabh is presumably about to vote
voting may be slow enough to see individual votes now
not that it makes any difference
 
oh - you've put all the individual links in... awesome
 
there is a +2^^
 
6:51 PM
who is the best
 
I think that is interesting that there is a tend that the higher upvotes users get more upvotes
 
i am first timer
 
Martijn
 
he is currently first
 
@saurabh2836 take a look at the primaries tab on the election page. There is more info there
 
6:53 PM
yes i read it but what is in there for the winner any way ???
 
@saurabh2836 the vote is to elect three moderators
 
so there will be 3 winners top 3 ???
correct
 
sorry for all silly question just new to this things
 
no there is another voting of the top 10 or am I wrong?
 
6:55 PM
top ten are selected right now, and then there's an election to choose the winning 3
 
watch -cd -n5 "curl -s disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor/raw | column -ts '\"'
@JasonC ^
 
@saurabh2836 did you read that first page that Jason C sent you?
 
hey @Unihedro
 
@SecondRikudo SO MUCH BETTER
 
I already edited
 
6:57 PM
You the man, thanks.
 
Hiya @rekire
 
somebody write a chat bot that gives me a Linux prompt
 
So impolite :(
 
@Unihedro how do you feel about your voting count? I really expected that you get more votes then me
 
@rekire blind voters rawr argh meh
 

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