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12:17 AM
I can't believe you guys are still tied.
An actual tie for #10, though still incredibly unlikely, is approaching plausibility.
 
12:56 AM
has the vote count for Jason C and Undo been changing? both going up together?
 
They've accumulated 21 (jason) and 16 (Undo) over the last 2.5 hours
 
while Martijn does that every few minutes
 
yep, and good on him, he deserves it. Surprisingly he's also collected around 120 down votes last time I checked - I'm not sure why people would down vote him.
 
my guess is that either those 120 people want radical changes, or they dislike Martijn personally for some reason
 
yeah. Based on what I've seen of Martijn those down votes make me really curious about why they were cast - are they just people being totally random, or did he piss them off somehow? I guess we'll never know.
 
1:11 AM
@slugster you could still make the top 10
anybody below you looks like a lost cause at the moment
 
1:22 AM
Sometimes people attempt to strategically downvote to get their fave candidate in
i.e. downvoting everyone else
 
@yellowantphil It's a mathematical possibility. My vote accumulation rate is significantly more than the couple of guys above me, but the votes are just dribbling in now so I doubt I'll make up the difference in time.
 
I suppose Jeremy isn’t planning to withdraw again
 
I just watched a bunch of down votes go up and down the list. It's amusing to watch because you sit there and think "what are they going to do when they get to my name?". Pretty much everyone but vcsjones and rekire got hit.
 
@yellowantphil Probably not.
 
@JeremyBanks won’t know until the mood strikes you?
 
1:37 AM
Undo's down again.
 
@yellowantphil It will come as a great shock to me.
Gotta remember to fill out that questionaire when I have a chance...
 
1:57 AM
Morning!
 
Evening! Morning!
 
>:(
> primary voting began

yesterday
 
I don't know how to strike through text
 
I hate you
 
@yellowantphil ---triple dashes---
 
1:59 AM
With 8441 votes for Martijn, that means you're getting ~2 votes per minute...
 
I don't think the rankings are going to change dramatically.
 
Shree will come out on top... just wait and see
3
 
A few people might switch, but it's all just inflation from here.
 
Ed could make the top 10. Maybe slugster, if there’s a pro-slugster crowd out there that hasn’t found the election yet.
 
Since it's already off the star wall:
disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor - Please do not share this link outside of chat; don't want to hammer the server with requests
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2:10 AM
@JanDvorak maybe it should have the disclaimer about not sharing outside of chat, to keep from melting Jason’s computer
 
^^
 
 
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3:17 AM
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Q: Moderator Election - Why do we reveal voting statistics while the poll is still open

Albert RenshawWith the moderator election I was worried that the first person (as you scroll down to view all candidates) would receive the most votes just due to people voting simply for the badges. I was relieved to notice that the order of candidates shuffles every time you refresh the page to help evenly...

 
3:38 AM
How many moderators are elected this election? It seems like this information are missing both at the voting sites and at the other places I've looked
 
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look on the right side of the election page
all the important information is over there, where nobody sees it
 
hmm
I read that multiple times :p
 
read it once more :)
"moderator positions available 3"
 
ah
=)
I didn't read that part
only the part paragraph below
thanks for the help
 
4:04 AM
@JasonC How long have you been tied with Undo? All day? The whole election? 😲
 
A looong time
 
Good morning guys
 
Most of the day; I think at least for the last 10 hours.
 
my data from yesterday shows Undo at 762 and @JasonC at 648
 
Morning
 
4:05 AM
@JasonC Still hanging on 10 or 11
:)
 
Yeah he was far ahead, then when I woke up this morning we were tied and it'd been that way since.
I've just been cursing at the unstable sorting all day.
 
haha
 
haven’t fixed the sorting?
 
@JasonC Who went down from top 10, cause i can see jeremy and undo are in now
 
No, I guess I should, but if I do I'd have to fix other things to feel good about it, like tied rank numbers, move the red line down (maybe?), etc. I'd rather just leave it busted.
 
4:08 AM
well it’s a pretty cool page as it is
 
@RahulNikate Undo's been there. Jeremy moved into it and bumped me out, and Undo dropped a lot of places and we've been tied all day.
 
I don’t know how I survived at work without being able to access it
 
Haha
I should start adding fake votes to make it look like there's some more action again
 
make it show a bunch of downvotes on your name, so that people rush off to upvote you and correct the trend
 
@JasonC that's a nice page there (vote monitor)
 
4:15 AM
@Sathya Soon it will make you addicted to it....
 
@RahulNikate already there.
 
the plot again, for no particular reason
 
Yeah, anyone past slugster doesn't really have much of a chance of making the top 10.
 
yeah
...says the person just past Slugster :-|
Slugster is kind of a long shot too
Ed could make it
I wonder if the bottom 3 candidates got sympathy votes. they're doing much better than they were
 
Probably someone thought their nominations looked the same and wondered why they were ranked so low
so yes
 
4:21 AM
@JasonC [pointless complaining] it would be easier to plot the data if the names on your site contained no spaces [/pointless complaining]
 
remove them then
 
well there are all those other spaces all over the place
if I had skills, it wouldn’t be a problem
I have no skills
 
In other news, Shree is ahead of Hemang.
And it appears BJB is about to take 10th place.
 
making his way to the top, one candidate at the time
 
At this rate he'll pass Unihedro
It seems that even though there were more nominees, there are less voters than previous years
 
4:52 AM
where should we cast our vote
pls give me the link
 
check right hand side panel
 
I could not see it
pls tell me
 
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Q: There's an election going on. What's happening and how does it work?

ben is uǝq backwardsThe community bulletin says that there is a moderator election occurring. How does the election work and how can I get involved? Return to FAQ index

Is that fine for you
 
Its fine
Thanks a lot
 
4:59 AM
@yellowantphil What do you use to plot the data? OpenOffice, at least, handles copying the table and pasting it into a spreadsheet very well.
@Sathya Thanks!
 
5:13 AM
Couple of candidates below 1000 should withdraw
 
@kamlesh.bar: why? What's the point of withdrawing?
 
@kamlesh.bar Any specific reason for withdrawing
 
i think they won't catch what you think? and that will create though contest among rest
 
Welcome @PareshMayani
 
@RahulNikate thanks :)
 
 
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6:41 AM
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7:18 AM
Hello all! How the election is going on?
 
@Anto it's still going :)
 
When is the last date when we will see the new moderators?
 
@Qantas94Heavy ?
 
Who has the top ranking as far now ?
 
@AntoKing Jason C has built an app to keep track of that:
19 hours ago, by Jason C
Updated live viewer; refresh the page if you're using it. Added gap to next rank, and timer display. cc @MartijnPieters http://disorient.ddns.net/SOVoteMonitor/
 
7:22 AM
No that app is blocke in my company
 
oh
atm, the top 3 is: 1. Martijn Pieters, 2. meagar, 3. Jon Clements
 
Who is top now?
Thanks man
 
Rank	User	Votes	Next	Change	Accum.
1	Martijn Pieters	8704		+1	+1
2	meagar	5721	2983	0	0
3	Jon Clements	4697	1024	0	0
4	Matt	4234	463	0	0
5	Second Rikudo	4068	166	0	0
6	deceze	3189	879	0	0
7	Raghav Sood	2435	754	0	0
8	Paresh Mayani	2346	89	0	0
9	Jeremy Banks	2158	188	0	0
10	Undo	1981	177	0	0
think of the devil.
 
ah, the table made it look like meagar was behind by about 5700 points. :-P
Quite a devil, that alignment.
I notice that all of the 40/40 candidates are in the top 10
 
Martijn in unbeatable position
 
7:25 AM
They are almost sorted by their candidate score.
Jeremy Banks is the odd one out in the top 9 there.
 
What so different in Jeremy?
 
@MartijnPieters Why there is j in Martijn
 
and vcsjones is the only 39/40 score candidate that isn't in the top 10
@RahulNikate there isn't. There is a ij digraph in my name. :-P
 
So martjin where is the party............ Hope u going to lead
 
@MartijnPieters You can take rest for coming 6 days and come back as moderator on SO
 
7:27 AM
@AntoKing I'll leave that link there for you too to ponder. I may have to install a no site access for those that misspell my name rule, damnit! [-_-]~
 
OOPS.......... Like a boss speech Mr.Martijn
By the way congrats in advance man....... Hope SOF will be more efficient and professional under your moderation. Take SOF to next level
 
note that we still have the actual voting round remaining :)
 
For people who care: Stop voting for @MartijnPieters, he might overflow.
 
@MarounMaroun So you think it'll go all the way to 32768 then?
 
If some one is exactly deserve....... No one can stop him from getting it
 
7:34 AM
There's quite a way to go still before we get that far..
 
All the best to all nominees
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum my failed attempt at being somewhat humorous.
 
@JeremyBanks: when did you get a private moderator message? :O
 
OH MY god
 
7:39 AM
@JeremyBanks What is 145 in screen shot on top right
 
@Qantas94Heavy when did you?.. looks that you know how a private moderator message looks like ;)
 
@Qantas94Heavy Four years ago, in response to accusations that I later demonstrated to be mostly fabricated by a troll.
 
@JeremyBanks lol
 
@MarounMaroun: this troll posted a copy on the old MSO somewhere when he got suspended in the main site :P
 
@RahulNikate That's supposed to be the number of items waiting for review in queues, although recently it hasn't been quite accurate.
 
7:42 AM
oh ok
 
no free hand circles, not legit enough
 
@Sathya lol
 
True... I should not let the old ways be forgotten.
Though I don't currently have paint or photoshop available, and I find GIMP extremely stressful.
 
@Shog9 you're probably sleeping again anyway :P This will get buried too
 
A vote for me is a vote for correct name spelling rules! :-P #stackoverflow #soelection (thanks go to @jeremybanks) http://t.co/F4xWdvDook
 
7:48 AM
:D
 
Martijn u can expect all the guys from all over the world to spell ur name correctly
 
@AntoKing I'm lucky if I can get Dutch names spelled correctly.
So, no, I don't mind, I am used to it.
When I lived in the US my very sweet Vietnam veteran neighbour kept referring to me as the Danish guy from across the road with the difficult name.
I figured it was close enough.
 
Ouch.
 
Speaking about names.. you guys don't have the troubles I'm having..
 
ROFL
 
7:53 AM
lol, what a dumb limitation to impose on names on a website
 
Bad Validation
 
inb4 cycles in family tree software
1495
Q: Cycles in family tree software

Partick HöseI am the developer of some family tree software (written in C++ and Qt). I had no problems until one of my customers mailed me a bug report. The problem is that he has two children with his own daughter, and, as a result, he can't use my software because of errors. Those errors are the result of...

 
Can never sign up to the JavaRanch with my current name
 
Hack the site
and change the rules
 
What about this?
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Q: Sort moderator nominees by score during primary phase of election after I already voted

Patrick HofmanCurrently there is a moderator election on Stack Overflow. For those who vote, the nominees are listed in random order, just to make it fair. This is totally okay to me. However, when I have voted already, I would like to see the current nominees sorted by their score (just to see who is where, ...

 
7:56 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I didn't know there are another 1495 Maroun Maroun's :p
 
A vote for @zopatista is a vote for correct name spelling! Vote Martin Peters :-D #stackoverflow #soelection
 
whistles innocently... and legs it...
 
@MartijnPieters An, nice. Thanks for the reference!
 
@JonClements ROFL
 
8:00 AM
goedemorgen
 
@MartijnPieters How to install it
 
@deceze ook goedemorgen!
 
@deceze een hele goede morgen :)
 
@RahulNikate Like you install any other userscript; it depends on your browser.
I use the Chrome Tampermonkey extension.
On Firefox there is Greasemonkey.
 
@MartijnPieters thanks. I'll have look at it
 
8:03 AM
Is it wrong that when I see "ook" I immediately think of the librarian in the UU from Discworld? :p
 
OK, so I already ran out of my Dutch... ^_^;;
Hi guys
 
@JonClements Oook! Eeek.
@deceze: ein sehr guten Morgen
not sure how far my German stretches these days, learning Norwegian kind-of put the kibosh on that, but still.
 
@Martijn Einen schönen guten Morgen would be better.
And no, autocorrect, I did not mean a "gutted" Morgen, thankyouverymuch
 
@deceze natürlich, danke sehr!
 
@MartijnPieters どういたしまして
(queue the norwegian...)
 
8:10 AM
should I flag that as non-english?
 
@JanDvorak If you vote for me, I'd accept that flag!
 
@deceze I actually can read a little Japanese, having taught myself to read MSX magazines.
I also speak some, as you are taught some when practicing Aikido.
Writing it, not so much.
 
@MartijnPieters Haha, man, it's getting international in here.
What's it with Japanese that makes it both one of the hardest languages in the world and at the same time many a geek's hobby...?
 
I've had some random stuff about Japanese/manga when I occasionally received emails/got confused on forums for this guy
 
@JonClements LOL
Did you ever bother reading it (or trying to)? :)
 
8:20 AM
Oh they were in English... but asking stuff about Japanese speeches/comments on some manga stuff... etc.... I just replied and said... sorry - wrong Jonathan Clements...
 
So 'mods to be'. How would you handle this: stackoverflow.com/q/29644860/993547
 
@PatrickHofman That poor schmuck... ;-( I left him a comment at least pointing him in the right direction...
 
@deceze: Nice comment
 
A questionmark tag? :/
 
aaand gone
 
8:32 AM
@MarounMaroun For those times when you're simply like Whaaaaaaa.....??????? perhaps?
 
@deceze That's useful. I'll create a new tag "semicolon" that we should include anytime we have a semicolon in the question.
 
@MarounMaroun Do not forget the interrobang tag, for when you're more like Whaaaaa..‽‽‽
 
@deceze LOL
 
We could have a colon tag serving both the punctuation and the spam
 
¿Would pt.stackoverflow.com require an inverted-questionmark tag?
 
8:41 AM
questionmark-pair
 
armenian-questionmark ՞
 
9:09 AM
The question mark ( ? ), casually known as the interrogation point, query, and eroteme, is a punctuation mark that indicates an interrogative clause, or phrase in many languages. The question mark is not used for indirect questions. The question mark glyph is also often used in place of missing or unknown data. In Unicode, it is encoded at U+003F ? question mark (HTML ?). == History == Lynne Truss attributes an early form of the modern question mark in western language to Alcuin of York. Truss describes the punctus interrogativus of the late 8th century as "a lightning flash, striking from...
In Armenian the question mark ( ՞ ) takes the form of an open circle and is placed over the last vowel of the question word.
Wow, that sounds complicated. How's that working in practice? Readable enough?
 
wouldn't work in Czech
We already have ů, which evolved from uo
 
@deceze Looks something like: Ո՞վ է Էջմիածնում սպանվածը.Հայրը՝ ԳԱԻ պետ,հորեղբարը՝ դատավոր,եղբայրը՝ բիզնեսմեն
 
RTL? :-( )-:
 
@MarounMaroun ն is the last vowel with question mark then?
Or Ո՞?
I know literally nothing about Armenian. ^_^;;
 
good to see @deceze and @SecondRikudo PHP guys progressing well
 
9:13 AM
@deceze I'm not sure, just Googled "armenian quesiton" :D but I guess it's on Ո՞
 
@MarounMaroun Now I wonder whether there's always a vowel at the end, or whether there may be a following consonant, which would place the question mark not at the end of the sentence... mind blown
 
@deceze See? We really need this tag ;)
 
@deceze not even what you should have been able to pick up from this chat so far?
 
@JanDvorak OK, I suppose I know that Armenian question marks are weird. Touché.
 
Cool. Google doesn't even let you refuse their cookies now. Only "got it" / "learn more" / implied "close the page"
 
9:18 AM
Just for fun, behold the traditional Japanese question mark: 疑問符どこにあるんでしょうか。
 
dat dot
 
@JanDvorak Browser settings > Privacy > Cookies > Always block...
@JanDvorak Nope. Dat か.
 
@deceze or that
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, ? ALSO KINDA LOOKS LIKE A LETTER, DOESN'T IT?
 
If you're going there... what actually doesn't look like a letter? There's no fundamental difference between i and !.
whisper it's all in your head~~~~
 
I see everyone is starting to be driven insane from staring at Jason's webapp for too long...
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9:35 AM
I'm perfectly sane - there's a selfie to prove it!
Mr. Flibble keeps an eye on it for me so I don't have to...
... he's a very well behaved penguin...
 
@Unihedro It's really not healthy.
 
I'm not obsessed! I can stop anytime!
 
@deceze but one more look won't hurt surely? :p
 
@JonClements Let's see...
@JonClements Aaargh, darn you!
 
Well look on the bright side - now you've had one look, you might as well have another...
 
9:43 AM
Actually, I've been cemented in my 6th place since forever, so it's not really very exciting actually... :-/
 
There was some fun with 10/11 swapping a bit... very tense - edge of your seat drama...
 
You're easily entertained, aren't you? ;)
 
I'm a puppy... a chewy toy entertains me an entire day... what'd you expect? :)
 
A greatly intelligent puppy which is entertained by flip flopping numbers...
 
"greatly intelligent" - that app has really distorted your sense of reality... :p
 
9:51 AM
😰
 
We should hold a pool as to the time @Martijn gets 9k... :p
I'll go for ~1hr from now
 
I'm all for holding pools, the weather is just right today.
 
@JonClements 40 minutes maybe?
Everyone get their Dragon Ball Z references ready?
 
10:06 AM
so I'm going for I guess 11:02 UTC
 
Is it necessary for everyone to answer the questionnaire?
 
10:45 UTC
 
@SampritiPanda it shows effort that candidates do so... but no one's obliged to do anything
 
@SampritiPanda no, but it won't look good if you don't and you make the elections..
 
Q: "So... Jon... you're part of the Puppy Party - tell us why we should vote for you" A: "Nope - can't be bothered".... doesn't work well :p
 
10:12 AM
I think Martijn could easily have skipped the questionnaire, but he's too nice...
 
To everyone talking about me skipping questionaries and / or taking a holiday to come back as a moderator: have any of you seen my activity graph?
It's not as if I am used to not doing what I do...
 
@MartijnPieters Just trying to establish some Martijn memes here, go with it... ;)
 
Right, sorry, I'll try not to interfere again. Go right ahead! :-)
 
10:16 AM
@MarounMaroun Thanks... reading list +1
@Martijn Right. Do you want SE to send you a hand painted meme picture or not? :P
 
@Martijn think your guess is going to be closer than mine...
 
@JonClements it slowed down again since..
 
That's a shame cough
 
10:57 AM
Oooo @Matrijn: 8993 and 5 mins to go for my guess :)
 
ElectionVotesOverflowException
 
11:25 AM
@SecondRikudo umm.. not sure if I hit invalid quick enough...
 
@JonClements 12 flags so far XD
This is getting interesting!
 
I have no idea how that was flag-worthy...
 
13 people regretted voting for @SecondRikudo for the elections
 
I regret nothing
 
Wow, over 9000!
Did I miss something?
 
11:44 AM
@JonClements: you called it! I saw 8999 at 11:02 UTC.
No idea how you slowed down the voting like that, do I need to fear your DOSsing skillz?
I was surreptitiously watching the progress while in Yet Another Meeting.
What were the flags for?
I saw 12 flags fly by but wasn't quick enough to actually see what they were about..
 
One of our candidates vented their frustration in all-caps swearwords
 
by the end of the day
 
wait, what? int16???
 
@JanDvorak tsk tsk
 
:( but the concept is clear
 
11:56 AM
@MartijnPieters So what do I win except the right to waggle my tail with pride for a moment/two? :p
 
12:17 PM
@BadgerCat not long seen your tweet - very kind of you... woof woof!
 
@JonClements I really hope you win. Best of luck!
 
Why is reversal of vote allowed in the primary phase?
 
@Mixcels can't think of a reason it shouldn't be... you can change your mind at any time during the primaries/election phases... once the deadline is hit... the votes are then fixed
 
@JonClements Okay. Has this happened before: many votes get reversed during the closing time and boom, a new list of candidates advance?
 
@Mixcels not that I know of
 
12:28 PM
It certainly didn't happy last election, or the time before that, that I noticed...
 
Great since that would have been a serious blow on the ones losing out. Thank you @BoltClock and @JonClements
 
@SecondRikudo: Do you need that message trashed?
 
Has there been a Leonardo DiCaprio of SO? Deserving many a times but never elected?
 
BJB
JK
 
@Mixcels Probably @JonClements
(no offence or derision intended :P)
 
12:38 PM
Umm... I took that as a compliment :)
 
Who is JK?
 
Just Kidding.
 
Lol, I thought it was someone's username :) @JanDvorak
 
Is Wednesday chat flag day or something?
 
12:54 PM
yes
 
@Unihedro Yeah, if you could. Thanks
 
@rlemon why did no one tell me that!? I never get invited to these things :(
 
@JonClements you need a diamond.
I mod flagged about it earlier
:P
 
I'm doing my best, okay!? :p sheesh.... this is a demanding electorate :)
 

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