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23:10
Hello
Hey :-)
So, how's your day gone?
Pretty good, actually :-)
What did you think of my comment here?: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/22035801#22035801
I don't want to go on, but I just want it not to happen again
I thought it might be worth having a conversation outside the Python room so that if there's anything you want to continue talking about, we could do so without antagonising regulars whose patience is wearing a little thin ;-)
I understand that it's frustrating when you don't think you're doing anything wrong and are getting what appear to be hostile reactions, but you have to understand that there are people in the room who care a great deal about it, and see vampirism as damaging to it.
23:14
I didn't see which part of asking my question was vampirism though?
I asked really politely and I didn't want the other users to just do it for me
I get that.
But:
While politeness of phrasing is obviously important, a lot of programmers find it impolite to ask a series of what seem to them to be very basic questions, especially if they don't see evidence that you've tried to work it out for yourself.
I see
So I just needed more support for my question?
... where "evidence" is more than simply asserting that this is the case, but more like "I tried this, read this that I found, but I don't understand this section" etc.
That makes more sense
Well, there's a couple of things. One big no-no, as you might have gathered, is saying things like "but I have a deadline". We're all programmers, we all have deadlines, and we expect people to respect that our time is valuable, albeit freely offered.
23:20
I agree
What else do you think?
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to leave really soon
It's worth bearing in mind that if you sense hostility, there must be a reason for that. The room is, in general, very friendly to newcomers regardless of their levels of expertise, so if people are getting snappy with you, it's worth looking back through the converstion and working out how you could have picked up on what you were (inadvertently) doing to piss people off.
No problem :-)
Just to finish off, what did you think of my suggestion about leaving a note - would it be worth putting it on meta?
For the time being, I'd leave it - it's not a bad idea, but things need to cool off a little.
We have regular meetings to discuss room policy etc., and all are welcome - not sure when the next one is.
But yes, it might well be helpful :-)
Well then, thanks for your time and advice, it really helped and will help in the future.
NP :-) I'll link to this conversation in the room if that's ok with you.
23:27
That's fine with me
:-)
Ok, cool - good luck :-)
Thanks, you too
Good night
You too ..
Cheerio!
@ZeroPiraeus Just before I leave the python chat room, would you like me to leave a note on our conversation there?
For the time being, it might be better to just leave things as they are.
23:33
Then, for the last time, sleep well and good night!
@Tim for reference, I did explain, both before and after you were kicked, why you were:
in Python, 2 hours ago, by davidism
Please take some time to go over some tutorials, try to debug your own problems, and come back once you are more familiar with what you are trying to do
in Python, 2 hours ago, by davidism
@Tim please read and understand http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/help_vampire.htm and http://sopython.com/chatroom before continuing

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