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6:35 AM
Good moaning
 
7:21 AM
Good morning
 
today target of quantity of killing squirrels?
 
pi/2
 
8:09 AM
The quantity of work in general is not that high, as today is meeting day. I jsut dubbed it that because it's gonna be like 80% meetings.
 
8:27 AM
@Squirrelkiller ah, so you are a project manager as well
 
9:02 AM
Software developer slash working student but because Scrum we get to do some of the project manager work
 
9:36 AM
[Captain Obvious] Why do people book calls and then not turn up
 
 
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10:45 AM
@Botler you're talking about in work or while recruitment?
I've heard about both cases and the latter seems getting more and more frequent
 
11:11 AM
ghosting is more about accepting the offer, THEN not showing up
 
Never heard about those cases
I've only heard about people who didn't show up for durning different stages of recruitment process without any heads-up/explaination/contact
 
IMHO it's a plain reaction to shifting market. Good programmers became scarce resource. And now are able to revenge the usual recruiter behavior. No feedback.
it's healthy, but it's funny how entitled the recruiters are to making such a fuss about it
absolutely no looking in the mirror...
 
It only shows that it works both ways
 
also that recruiters haven't even considered not giving feedback could hurt themself.
and the karen behavior, that such ghosting should be making the programmers on black list... It's not how the world works...
I had a response from a HR girl that it's a small community, and basically threatened me if she writes a mass mail, she can blacklist me anytime...
 
KEKW
 
11:20 AM
that entitled that HR persona was...
 
Both sides are to blame, imho. Recruiters not doing their best job when not reaching back to recruits, developers not showing up at work or not getting back to them saying that other company made a bigger bid...
You can find people being dicks literally everywhere
But, yeah, that lady probably didn't know that throwing tantrums and threats won't get her anywhere
 
yes. But the situation that HR were masters, applicants were slave stood for so long...
 
That's good for good developers
I need to up my skills and become one
 
IMHO from HR point it's a process of learning humble. And natural selection, so they have to step up to the challenge
they can't go with shitty no-feedback behavior
or constantly copy pasting shit job description to non-relevant programmers
developer's point of view, it's not that blameable. There has to be a point to stand up for yourself
 
Well, if you're a mid developer with 10 years of experience with C# and MVC 4 web apps mostly, with jQuery and Twitter Bootstrap there's not much you can really play out with them
 
11:39 AM
I don't understand
play out with them?
 
Haggle, negociate
 
[Captain Obvious] That one was about recruitment
[Captain Obvious] I had an interview booked and the guy call until after it was meant to happen
[Captain Obvious] I took the call anyway and it turned out a bit crap anyway so it was an easy decline
 
you mean a developer with these highly sought params are enough so the HR can't lower your salary expectations?
yet another crappy HR shit, who needs natural selection
 
[Captain Obvious] Companies shouldn't expect people to turn up until a contract is signed
 
Are there any that actually do that?
 
11:49 AM
[Captain Obvious] And in the current climate, companies should expect terms of contracts to be negotiated too
 
(meaning, they expect people BEFORE they sign the contract?)
 
[Captain Obvious] That was more aimed at ntohls message from before about candidates accepting an offer then not turning up
 
oh
I'm depressed
I'm stuck with relatively straigthforward web apps I've been doing for the last 10 years with an outdated technology. I want to get better but not sure where to start. I've started reading Troelsen's Pro C# 10 & .NET 6 but it's got 1000 pages. I feel that there's a lot for me to catch up on every side and yet I don't know in which direction to go to
inb4: I had some experience with Angular code in a derived project from another developer and I hate the fact that it was too complicated for me so I'm avoiding Angular because of that. Haven't had a chance to learn typescript either, plain Javascript can be a pain in the butt too... So far I think I'm most comfortable with either jQuery or plain Javascript. There's so many things that my brain explodes even when thinking about it
Does anyone know any good C# Psychologist? lol
 
 
12:12 PM
[Captain Obvious] Typically a new job will cure yourt problem
 
See my problem is that I've got a low self-esteem and I'm having a feeling that changing job will be difficult because I might fail at the tech exam part of the process
I changed jobs in January 2021 and I barely made it through the test, even though it wasn't super difficult
 
[Captain Obvious] Just don't quit your current job but apply for new ones, and then if you land a decent offer then you can quit your current job
 
The project I ended with is a centralized insurance system that communicate with others ("source") systems. The purpose of it it's that it creates a 'golden record' which is an amalgamation of the most recent data about particular entities. There's absolutely no validation on the source systems, so we're having SISO (shit in, shit out).
The communication is done through SOAP/XML with webservices. It's made in .NET 4.7.2 and the solution contains of 18 subprojects, which code isn't easy for me. To top that up - the whole thing is delivered by an external software house company. Management pushes the decisions everywhere else they can.
It's shit on so many levels...
 
[Captain Obvious] ew insurance
 
yea, yeah, yup...
 
12:23 PM
[Captain Obvious] but also ew various other aspects you've described
[Captain Obvious] hold on let me get Hector in here
[Hector] <@213712166274990081> I'm scared now, do you work at my company by chance?
[Hector] Can you give me the name of that project?
[Hector] does PaymentWalletPaymentMethodAccount sound familiar to you?
[Captain Obvious] oh my god that would be amazinf
[Hector] lol he just described my project, roughly
[Hector] what the fuck it's so accurate...
[Captain Obvious] Suspiciously quiet 🤔
 
@Botler Depends if you work in a company based in Austria and has branch in Poland?
@Botler Doesn't ring a bell, no payments in our project, iirc.
 
\[**[Hector](https://discord.gg/PNMq3pBSUe)**] > See my problem is that I've got a low self-esteem and I'm having a feeling that changing job will be difficult because I might fail at the tech exam part of the process
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. What you have to do is apply to many interviews and, if you get something that fits you, accept and give your current employer that you're leaving in X days as legally bound to do, and start on the next company the next day/take a few days off for vacation which are always welcome
[Hector] Alright alright, not the same company, but a direct competitor
 
Don't tell me you're based on Poland
 
[Hector] my company is from the US with branches in Spain and India
 
Because if so we might have to go and have a beer
Oh, nevermind then, my ass can't afford to go to Spain or (God forbid) India
 
12:35 PM
[Hector] hah pizdec, we aren't neighbors unfortunately
 
lol
 
[Captain Obvious] cant afford india?
[Hector] everyone can go to india
[Hector] it's cheap AF
[Hector] maybe the trip isn't very cheap tho
[Captain Obvious] OMG WHY CAN'T PEOPLE FUCKING CALL ON TIME
[Captain Obvious] I've had 3 calls booked today for jobs
[Captain Obvious] Not one of them has called on time
 
Yeah, earning 1.750 euro equivalent/month in Poland is really rough, man.
Especially having two kids and wife who can't work yet.
 
[Hector] it's a nice red flag
[Hector] see, with that amount I'd be earning 1400 euro/month
[Hector] i bet <@739935030910124042> wouldn't be able to afford living in Germany with that
 
Oh, sorry, it's net income (money I get monthly on my account)
 
12:40 PM
[Hector] yes I was talking about net income too
[Hector] take away my monthly expenses (phone, internet, electricity, etc) should be around 250-300 euros
 
So, 1750 euros net income, having to pay monthly for kids' school, rent, bills, internet leaves me almost nothing to save for anything.
 
1400 is my monthly expenses of my home...
 
[Hector] right, that's what I was trying to imply about locations for wages
 
I'm both underpaid and undercompetent, those are the reasons of my depression
It's horrifying
 
[Hector] the average in my area is 1200 euros, and that's considered a decent salary. If you have a rent to pay here plus everything else, it still leaves you with 400 bucks
[Captain Obvious] jesus christ wiet do you live in a fucking mansion
 
12:42 PM
It's like we're riding the same train, Hector
 
[Hector] You're probably not undercompetent, that's just a delusion we all build around ourselves
[Captain Obvious] Imposter syndrome strong
[Hector] yeah I was in that same situation around 5 years ago, it was the meme of the year
 
@Botler If he's bought him his own house then the bank's interest rate might have skyrocketed, I've heard about many of my friends have that problem.
They were paying X amount monthly to the bank for morgage, now they have to pay 150-200% of that
I'm the last one to look into others' wallets and decide for them how they should spend their money. That's not my right, nor my business. But I can definitely understand and believe in situations that people are getting poorer because inflation is going up like crazy
iirc, the realistic inflation rate in Poland is around 60% currently this year
I need to GTFO from here
This country will become a land of old and sick people, because the ones that had the opportunity immigrated for better life contitions.
 
[Hector] if people go poor because inflation goes BRRRR, it's their fault tbh. They don't understand the market, all they do is whine because they thought whatever was OK, but they were wrong and truth isn't a democracy
[Hector] I can understand when the banker told them lies, thinking nothing would happen, and then it happened
 
@Botler apartment
that
 
1400 sounds about right
 
12:49 PM
@Botler democracy sucks
 
[Hector] but IMO if you're committing to paying something for the next few years, you should make fucking sure you're going to put your money in the right basket
 
warm, that is
My "rent" is actually paying off the bank, so I guess inflation is on my side?
hey what happens when hyperinflation hits, are banks just fucked?
 
[Hector] If I understand the situation correctly, if you got a mortgage you're screwed. but that might depend on where you live and your bank conditions
 
Obviously
Plus if you're being rational you would've had some money saved for 'just-in-case'
 
Why isn't the bank screwed though? Paper says I gotta pay 30k, I take my now 30k paycheck and go "here's 30k now fuck off"?
They can't just increase my mortgage with inflation, right?
...right?
 
1:24 PM
[Hector] because the mortgage has extra payments
[Hector] the interest rate
[Hector] and that can be fixed/variable
[Hector] fixed is higher than variable, but doesn't change
[Hector] variable is usually explained as more beneficial as the economy grows, your money is worth more, therefore you pay less
[Hector] but it never does, economy tends to go to shit every so often
[Hector] and your rate goes up
[Hector] so you're paying more money in interest rates
[Hector] but you're still paying off your 30k loan
[Hector] let me put it simple
[Hector] you buy a house
[Hector] do you have 100k?
[Hector] no: Here's 100k, you'll pay me 130k over the next 20 years, slowly.
[Hector] that's 100k you borrow + 30k extra for having the money available now.
[Hector] interest rates are those 30k
[Hector] they can shift as your money is worth less
 
But if interest is like 12% p.a., so like 1% a month, so like 1k (wait that's pretty high? Fuck this is a math problem), this 1k will only go down as I pay off the mortgage, right? First payment will be 1%*100k = 1k, then, say I paid off 50k because I'm rich the next one will be 1%*50k = 500?
 
1:52 PM
[Captain Obvious] I got lucky with my mortgage
[Captain Obvious] I took out a new mortgage about a year ago when fixed rates were available at 1.25%
[Captain Obvious] My rate is fixed for 5 years
[Captain Obvious] And now the bank of england base rate is actually higher than my mortgage rate, so I can make more money by saving than paying off my mortgage quicker
 
2:44 PM
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3:21 PM
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3:50 PM
I am wondering can someone please help with this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/73984003/… its about calling PowerShell inside C#
 
4:17 PM
Hi all
If you're calling a static method on a non-static class, will it call the c'tor on it? It appears that doesn't get called and goes straight into the static method
But the static method depends on data injected into the c'tor, which is null in the method
Never mind. Stupid programmer mistake
Merged code in that had a bug in it
 

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