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3:33 AM
nyan
 
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan you spell your name wrong. lol
 
3:51 AM
AvnerShahar-Condensed
Did .Result inside .ContinueWith() are returns immediately?
 
mr5
I think so
the only thing I think that are deferred are statements that have await on it
 
4:08 AM
okay..
 
 
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V.7
5:25 AM
Kashtan ...
Is that a name of a nut of Oak in some language?
@DanColgan Interop? Though, their Microsoft documentation for Interop really sucks.
 
That would explain why I like him
Buenos dias muchachos o/
 
V.7
o/
 
Still better than Android docs
Android docs be like:
Looper
This is a looper
Depending on context I have difficulties to decide between "Read The Fucking Manual" and "Right The Fuck Now"
 
Ben Popper on February 25, 2020
This week we chat with Anil Dash, CEO of Glitch and board member here at Stack Overflow. He breaks down the tech behind Glitch apps, explains why the company is launching an online magazine called Glimmer, and talks about the fight to keep the web weird, fun, and open to all. Glitch, a platform that…
 
mr5
5:42 AM
@V.7 and Java is based in Oak tree right?
 
V.7
@Squirrelkiller Microsoft's docs: ""
@Squirrelkiller The first one. Book's front shows MS docs
 
6:09 AM
 
V.7
6:19 AM
@DKDhilip Awesome xD
 
lol
 
6:55 AM
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
 
is this okay?
foreach(var item ...)
_context.Add(newItem);

_context.SaveChanges()
or it is better to save as well while adding?
@Squirrelintraining ?/
 
@Shad ctrl+k shadi boi
aswell you should know best not to ping plebs at random :P
Buuuuut back to your question, depeds on how many Items you are adding.
And if it's coupled to front-end or not.
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining what does GMBH stands for?
 
7:10 AM
Just know that you have a longer time to wait the more items you are saving
And usually it's better to call .SaveChanges() once becuase it's a database call
@mr5 Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung.
And not "general motors breast holders" like i though as a kid.
 
mr5
:D
u r german ryt?
 
Did AsyncMethod().ContinueWith() safe?
 
Good question! I have another one:
Why did the chicken cross the road?
 
mr5
Because it can!
duh
@nyconing yeah I think so
I'm using it with our TaskExtension
 
7:17 AM
@nyconing Not quite condensed yet, but I'm working on it.
@V.7 Not oak, chestnut. It's even etymologically cognate
 
mr5
public static void FireAndForget(this Task task, Action<Excetion> exceptionHandler = null)
{
	_ = task.ContinueWith(t =>
	{
		Exception ex = task.Exception;
		while (ex.InnerException != null)
			ex = ex.InnerException;
		exceptionHandler?.Invoke(ex);
	});
}
 
yeah
 
@mr5 You can just use ContinueWith and then FireAndForget the resulting task.
 
V.7
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Oh, sure ... misspelled ... sorry.
Nice one
 
but callling AsyncMethod returns that task already ran or the task is going to run or the task is completed
or faulted
 
mr5
7:21 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan but then, the IDE shows warning for not assigned variable
 
myTask.ContinueWith(t => { blah }, TaskContinuationOption.OnlyOnFaulted).FireAndForget().
No, F&F the final task.
ContinueWith returns a new Task which represents the entire task continuation chain. Then, you can F&F that one.
 
mr5
oh, there was:
if (!task.IsFaulted)
    return;
in the actual source code
I just wrote that in mind
 
Good morning.
 
V.7
o/
 
7:24 AM
Yup, that's the origins of my family name.
Half of my family name, anyway.
 
mr5
ASK
that's why, we always ask ASK
Oh
 
The other half, "Shahar", means "dawn" in Hebrew, and is a translation of my wife's family's original surname, "Sabach", which means "morning" in Arabic.
 
mr5
there's a new comer
you attached your wife's family name to your name?
@Hozuki I thought you are a new comer Roel
 
@mr5 Yeah. When we got married, we both took each other's names, combined.
 
mr5
that actually makes more sense
is that a religious thing or your just preference?
 
7:31 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan sabach elchel habibi
amel eh?
 
@mr5 No, the traditional and religiously-approved approach is for the wife to take the husband's name, but we didn't like it.
@Squirrelintraining I think it should be "sabach elcher", but my Arabic is rusty-to-nonexistent.
 
@mr5 I'm new. I've been here for close to 10 years. That's new, right?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Well I lived in egpyt, afaik everybody else speaks weird arabic but us.
 
mr5
@Hozuki why did you change your name to Hozuki?
it's like you've betrayed us all for changing your name
 
Hmmm. I've decided to go through life as female.
 
mr5
7:35 AM
^ a reference to some ad I saw in fb
 
Well, everyone's been changing their names to squirrels or to Hector, so why not?
And now, back to the last day of training sessions.
 
@Shad Pretty sure EF has .AddRange so you don't need to make your own loop.
 
Nawh, I wanted a change. So, Hozuki Ferrari it is. For now. We'll see in a month if I keep it.
 
is it a name for car?
 
It's not.
 
7:40 AM
That would be Suzuki
Although those are Bikes
 
You cant put english to the back of japanese name
 
English?
1) Yes I can.
2) Ferrari is italian, if you're refering to that.
 
Ferrari is english
 
@Hozuki You still gotta change your name on Github
(Or is that not possible?)
 
7:43 AM
Enzo Ferari was most definitely an italian man.
 
sometime I wonder nani the heck is behind in auto correction
 
(Also Ferrari sounds italian)
 
but Ferrari still is english name also
and we cant also put italian name back on japanese name
 
Where do you get the idea from that Ferrari was an english name?
@CaptainSquirrel can we teach Jack links yet?
 
here
Enzo Anselmo Giuseppe Maria Ferrari, Cavaliere di Gran Croce OMRI (Italian: [ˈɛntso anˈsɛlmo ferˈraːri]; 20 February 1898 – 14 August 1988) was an Italian motor racing driver and entrepreneur, the founder of the Scuderia Ferrari Grand Prix motor racing team, and subsequently of the Ferrari automobile marque. He was widely known as "il Commendatore" or "il Drake". In his final years he was often referred to as "l'Ingegnere" (the Engineer) or "il Grande Vecchio (the Great Old Man)". == Early life == Ferrari was said to have been born on 18 February 1898 in Modena, Italy and that his birth w...
 
7:47 AM
That is the link I just posted...
 
I copied from it
 
But where does it say anything about english?
 
en.wikipedia.org
 
@Squirrelkiller It's possible, but I won't.
 
That is the wikipedia going "here we translated this to english for you so you don't have to know italian to read about Enzo Ferrari"
stackoverflow.com is an english website.
Hans is on here.
Is Hans therefore an english name?
 
7:49 AM
forget Ferrari, now 法拉利 is Italian name or Chinese name?
 
(Weeb-alert)
 
@nyconing No Idea I can't read that.
 
I cant read Italian(Ferrari)
But I read Ferrari in English
 
You can read latin though
 
Ferrari's English name
 
7:51 AM
The latin alphabet that is
The letters we use are not english
The language as a whole is english
The alphabet is latin
I can write german, and you can read the names, but you won't be able to understand the sentences.
You can read the names because you can read the latin alphabet
Hans <-- That is not english
Just as "Avner" is not english
But we can still read those, because they use the latin alphabet
 
yes I get you, Im very sorry
You cant put english to the back of italian name
oh what the heck
You cant put italian name to the back of japanese name
 
I mean, it's a name, so there usually isn't much you can do about that nowadays. Statistically speaking there should be someone called Mohammed Chan or something?
 
yeah please stop that thing
 
People marry, and then they can ahve a different name, which might have be from another language.
Sorry I'm on vacation and my brain jsut needed a break from trying to put bootstrap into Blazor
 
we have different culture to understand that thing in common sense
i said stop
 
7:58 AM
HAMMERTIME!
 
That's the thing though - nowadays cultures mix. I mean they did that 200 years ago too when people went all "This is america nd I'm the boss now" but yeah....
STAHP
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
I see
Jack, you're behind
 
Of course
 
mr5
7:59 AM
Squirrel In Nyconing
Or Roel Van Avnir
 
@mr5 I respectfully decline
 
mr5
Hector Buttler
 
Again what is English name for Ferrari?
 
mr5
u jelly?
There isn't?
 
I don't think that one gets translated, it jsut stays Ferrari
 
8:00 AM
Ferrari
 
The problem with names is - they're not treated the same as words. They're just names.
 
Names are names, but they can turn into words.
 
If you tried to translatr my name to english (which would fail horribly probably) and tried to call me with it, I wouldn't react - since it would be a different name.
Google is totally a verb
 
back to the topic, you cant combines name with different language
 
@nyconing Why not?
 
8:03 AM
yes you can but it llooks weird
Nintendo Tesla?
 
Languages have many, many loan-words from other languages. These get accepted in.
English has thousands of them.
@nyconing Again, names.
Not words.
 
facepalm
 
Also Nintendo and Tesla are both Surnames...
Hans Tesla
 
Mohamed Sony
 
Totally acceptable
 
8:05 AM
acceptable?
wth Im out
 
The word "Television", for instance, is a mix of the Greek tele "from afar, at a distance" and the Latin root videre "to see". It was merged together either in English or French in the early 20th century, but moved on from those languages to many others.
 
I agree it sounds strange, but it's acceptable.
 
So the Hebrew term is "televizya", probably borrowed via Russian or German in the mid 20th century. It's a completely acceptable Hebrew word, borrowed from Russian, who borrowed from French or English, who, in turn, created it as a native word, but based on elements borrowed from Greek and Latin.
 
Even spanish has televisor, and it's a latin language! What would be latin for "far/remote"?
 
@nyconing What would be the problem with that? Here's a random person I found on the internet called Muhammad Jones: linkedin.com/in/muhammad-jones-0b76176a
 
8:08 AM
It's always interesting to find spanish words that 1) are basically the same in german, so most of the time form latin, seldomly greek and 2) are completely different from what we use in german, but we have that word in egrman too or can "make it german" and it sounds acceptable, since it's latin but german uses a germanic word here.
 
People move around and take their names with them. To say that an Arab first name doesn't go with a Japanese surname is to say that Arabs and Japanese can never form families together, which is clearly false.
 
mr5
8:20 AM
ae
 
yeah you basically can combines them
 
mr5
can you guys give me the single letter "ae"?
 
mr5
nevermind. found it
æ
 
At least in german
AH I see
 
mr5
8:20 AM
what does it sound?
 
That is kinda hard to describe in text lol
 
mr5
"ey ih"
a e sounds like that
 
You literally make a combinatino of the sounds of A and E with your mouth. Just not the english sounds, but the german sounds of those letters.
Basically: Take two parts of your mouth makign the sound: 1) lips and 2) tonge
Make "A".
Now change your tonge to the "E" sound, but keep your lips on the "A" sound. Now you got Ä-
A is only "ey" in english.
English has terrible sound equivalent for their written stuff.
 
mr5
Yeah agree
A in our language is pronounced as "ah"
silly UK boi
 
"A" in german is a single sound you can hold for however long you want and it doesnt change the sound
 
8:24 AM
櫻のStar子😏
 
Yeah I guess "ah" might be a written representatino of the german sound too
 
Good name
 
@nyconing Wait 10 years, we gonna have an emoji in somebody's name. 'Murica will make it happen.
 
name that thing on child sure will get beat by my parent
 
Or by other children
 
8:25 AM
and 18 years later by my child
 
lol
I jsut had think about some german children that have names form other languages, but written in german. So Jaqueline becomes Schakkeline. And subsequently has a non-silent 'e' at the end, because that's how german works.
Also Alicia -> Alischa. Ouch.
 
Now think about what happens when you transliterate the name to a whole different alphabet.
Why ouch, though? It's just another way of writing the name.
 
I don't even want to try to translate my own surname to english, even that "short" translation would be a massacre.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Because it destroys the...hm...'round' sound of 'Alicia'. It doesn't actually sound the same. The 'i' in Alischa is straight, as is the 'A'.
 
@Squirrelkiller So either find a German way to represent that sound, or simply keep it with the English spelling and havesome people mispronounce it.
 
mr5
Mohamed Alischka 櫻の
 
8:32 AM
I can imaging the 'A' in Avner being straight (as the A in german) too, but from the beginning I imagined your name with an english pronounciation where the A is more like the german Ä
 
mr5
ffffffffffffff
Xcode
is so slow
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Exactly the problem. People write it in a german spelling that doesn't make the same sound as the original, then people "mispronounce" it (pronounce it from how it's spelled), and now the name is different.
 
@Squirrelkiller The Hebrew "A" is very close to the German, I think.
 
@mr5 I bet Azure offers a VM image template for using Xcode
 
@Squirrelkiller And that's a natural product of crossing language boundaries. Different languages have different native sounds, and it makes sense for a German to be "Alischa" and not the English "Alicia".
 
mr5
8:34 AM
to make it more slower?
 
@mr5 Get a faster Mac. Only $5000 now, come quick, supply while it lasts.
 
mr5
If Alicia gets "Filipinized", it would just simply be spelled as "Alisya"
No extra characters
I need money @RoelVanUden
 
Does the s in the end keep the sound the 'c' in Alicia makes?
Oh there's no RoelVanUden here as far as I can see
 
mr5
RIP RoelVanUden
@Squirrelkiller yes
 
Interesting. We need 'sch' for that.
 
mr5
8:37 AM
'sya' is pronounced the same as 'cia' in Alicia
schk schk
 
@mr5 Go work work work. Then spend all your dollars on new Apple hardware.
Things you don't need, but absolutely should have!!
 
And software!
 
Because status!
 
mr5
whenever I want to pronounced "sch" I feel like there's a phlegm building up on me.
 
That's an upgrade pack @Squirrelkiller!!
 
mr5
8:39 AM
this mac is not mine though
 
sch is the english sh, jsut in case you were trying to do something strange wiht your lower tonge
 
mr5
it's my employer's property
 
@mr5 Even better, have them spend $5000 on a faster mac!
 
Wow my writing is deteriorating, brb, taking out the trash
 
@Hozuki roel?
 
8:45 AM
@Squirrelkiller Baisically he is taking out himself.
 
@Squirrelkiller There's onlt space in this room for one person who can't type for shit
 
@Wietlol Yes?
 
cool
I was like "oh, new guy... wait... new guy is room owner?"
speaking of which, I feel like I am the only person here that isnt a room owner
mr5 Squirrelkiller Hozuki AvnerShahar-Kashtan Squirrelintraining CaptainObvious
I have to scroll up to see messages from other people that arent RO
:(
and I am only proxy-ro
 
You don't belong to TEH CLUB YO.
 
8:50 AM
 
But you do noaw.
 
That's a risky move
 
I wish I knew how to unignore feeds.
 

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