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V.7
4:01 PM
 
I wish they gave me a graphic like that when I was studying OSI
 
mr5
Isn't it already reduced to 4 layers?
 
V.7
TCP/IP is 4 layer
 
TCP/IP vs OSI
 
im hungry again
how i don't know considering i had a fairly big lunch
 
4:06 PM
Refer: RFC 6214
 
V.7
 
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fudge
@V.7 :(
saddo catto
 
seems like i missed a few things lol
 
In computer networking, IP over Avian Carriers (IPoAC) is a proposal to carry Internet Protocol (IP) traffic by birds such as homing pigeons. IP over Avian Carriers was initially described in RFC 1149, a Request for Comments (RFC) issued by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), written by D. Waitzman, and released on April 1, 1990. It is one of several April Fools' Day Request for Comments. Waitzman described an improvement of his protocol in RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service (1 April 1999). Later, in RFC 6214—released on 1 April 2011, and 13 years after the ...
 
watching the ERB Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs
"You will never, ever catch a virus on an Apple"
this aged poorly
 
4:15 PM
Also, your nudes are safe on iCloud
oh wait
Sorry hollywood
 
lol i remember those mac vs pc adds
ads*
so misleading
though i did prefer the UK ones over the American ones because they used a really good comedy duo calle dMitchell & Webb
 
Advertising is all about how to mislead consumers into buying your shitty products.
 
true but the funny thing is we all know not all products are shit
its why im not bothered about targetted advertising too much
 
apple was kicking below the belt with those ads cause ms was dealing with the Vista backlash
 
id much rather get ads for computer parts etc than baby clothes lol
I just hated them claiming it didn't crash (because they used a linux kernel)
no it just tell you that it crashed, it just sits there spinning that damn wheel forever until you force power it off, then it claims YOU crashed the machine by turning it off
it just didn't tell you that it crashed*
"Oh it just works" - Ok let me just plug in the usb external drive formatted to NTFS...
dunno if it can actually use those now, but back in the day that screwed me over
it was on a graphic design course, those guys are brand loyal to the day they die
loved to watch them twist their faces trying to think of answers to the question "So [i]why[/i] is a mac better than a pc?"
 
4:27 PM
"it's prettier and doesn't catch viruses!!"
 
basically yeh, should have realised what with everyone being designers and all lol
 
Oh wait...Linux kernel?
 
except I'd argue Vista/7 looked about as good as Mac back then and the virus thing is a moot point
 
uyeh i dunno, but heard mac osx was built on top of a linux kernel? iono
i dont do mac lol
it took them waaaay too long to give users right-click
 
reminds me last week I discovered compiz
 
4:29 PM
like that having more than 1 button on the mouse would be confusing or somehting
 
seems like one of those things that was popular in the late 2000s and people quickly got bored with
 
They don't run Linux kernel
 
it doesn't seem like it's improved much since then
 
ah ok, i am talking about back in 2006-ish?
no idea just read it somewhere
 
vista/7 era was really the "let's make it look unnecessarily pretty" era of graphic design
 
4:30 PM
I remember days before Compiz, it's XGL
 
i mean this is what the geniuses design these days xD
 
Considering that mouse is basically carpal tunnel
 
bUt YoU cAn UsE tHe CaBlE eItHeR wAy
 
lol
ahhh i think the thing i read compounded linux kernel with built on BSD
 
I don't think I could imagine using Linux in the late 2000s or before x-x
seems like everyone then was obsessed with getting it to look complex
 
4:35 PM
Let's make a web UI framework based on X11 design
 
awesome, just got a call about a software bug i need to fix, at half 4 on a friday
 
Bring X11 to web
 
awesome
yeh honestly, i just use linux by the shell
couldnt tell you whether gnome or kde is a better desktop environment, if I want that I'll use Windows thanks
 
All Linux desktop environments sucks
 
lmao the problem entity is a product: DVD Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends hahahahha
 
4:37 PM
> IEnumerator IEnumerable.GetEnumerator()
{
return GetEnumerator();
}
 
the ysstem must have bad memories as a child lol
 
I cannot understand the meaning of return GetEnumerator();. GetEnumerator() is a method, how can we "return" a method?
 
GetEnumerator() returns IEnumerator?
 
The code is provided in this answer. I'm trying to understand what each line does
GetEnumerator() returns an IEnumerator object, as far as I understand.
 
It call IEnumerator<int> GetEnumerator()
 
4:41 PM
Yeh it's just returning IEnumerator<int> if you follow the stack
 
return GetEnumerator() returns an IEnumerator<int> object?
But the round brackets must indicate that GetEnumerator() is a method
 
public interface IEnumerator<out T> : IDisposable, System.Collections.IEnumerator
 
Coirrect
IEnumerator IEnumerable.GetEnumerator()
{
    return GetEnumerator();
}
so that calls GetEnumerator()
whose return type is IEnumerator<int>
public IEnumerator<int> GetEnumerator()
{
    return new ExplicitSquaresEnumerator();
}
 
Why don't use return IEnumerator<int> then?
I did not know we could use return with methods
I thought it could only be used with objects and data
Is there a thorough description of the whole "enumerator" stuff with all aspects explained?
 
When you "return a method()" you're just returning a result from the method you have just called
 
4:46 PM
tbf it's not something I do personally, but looking at it it's a prtected type not public? so it's there to allow a derived class I think?
but not to be called directly by the user
 
So basically it's the same as writing return new ExplicitSquaresEnumerator();
 
yeh, but this is to with Class Heirarchies
I think. lol
 
Depend on caller side
 
or am i barking up the wrong tree DK?
 
Thank you for clearing up the stuff a little bit!
 
4:50 PM
If you call ((ImplicitSquares)yourStuff).GetEnumerator(); you get IEnumerator<int>, and ((IEnumerable)yourStuff).GetEnumerator(); you get IEnumerator
 
he's gone lol
 
mr5
|| C#
 
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
C# is faster than C++ because it is C++++
 
lol
it's faster to develop in sure
 
4:59 PM
but you only require 2 plusses to make #
 
@DKDhilip lmao
 
5:30 PM
wooo home time! (nearly) :D
have a good weekend all
o/
 
5:55 PM
 
wh
what
 
mr5
one is lying
 
I see no lie
What inconsistency are you seeing in that data?
 
6:26 PM
I see a lie
second image has an uptick, and the last one is down hard
 
not sure if Jon is joking or not
 
The uptick is hitting up to 1M concurrent in early jan
both graphs show 1M concurrent in early jan
they both end around 600k. Not sure what you're seeing.
If I'm missing something I'd love to have it pointed out to me
 
First and Last have down, Second is Up
 
The 3rd image?
 
whoops, had to really look
 
6:31 PM
Yeah, it's not the same date range.
Just the portion from '19 onward
The uptick is in both of the first two graphs, just the second graph has less Y space so it doesn't look as significant.
I suspect it's also measuring more granularity than monthly peak, so it'll be smoother.
@Freerey Not joking, if there's something obviously wrong between those graphs I don't see it.
 
I gotcha
 
ahh
@mr5 so what's up with them
Doo Tell
 
I was wondering if this was one of those statistics tricks at play
 
Richard Play
 
the best wqay to "manipulate" graphs is to fuck about with the axes
 
6:40 PM
Right, the axis are very different between the first and second one
 
the really cheeky ones change the scale part way through
 
If you have a graph of errors being thrown by your system, it's nice to change to a logarithmic scale after a certain threshold so as not to look bad.
 
lmao
turn the exponent into a geometric, i like your style
lol, trying to find a file containing the word ren on the same drive as my game library
just found every file to do with every renderer on my machine lol
 
7:19 PM
sometimes I give myself the crepes
mmmm….crepes
 
So, working in a out of the box Blazor Server Side project with NavigationManager. I need some help with events. Im not sure why I am getting this error: gist.github.com/tarrzan33/e9541b8d4535b19d65c0c0751eccbe10
No overload for 'Foo' matches delegate 'EventHandler<LocationChangedEventArgs>'
I just need a way to clean up an object when they leave the page.
 
Change your foo definition to this maybe:
private void Foo(LocationChangedEventArgs args) { /* do things */ }
possibly needs to be private void Foo(object sender, LocationChangedEventArgs args) { /* do things */}
since in EventHandler<T> the T is the type of arguments sent by the event.
 
7:35 PM
Looks like it likes the second one. I did also just re read the Dispose method on components and it may work for me as well.
 
it's the second one, with the object sender.
 
But dispose for some reason gets called twice on page load. So I think the locationchanged event may be better
I need to study events way more. Im trying to use them but feel I am way off in my implantation
 
found out you can load a gridview from an object.....this is most interesting
 
What do you mean?
 
if I'm right, you instantiate an object in asp.net and assign an object's values to it like so:
gvPatterns.DataSource = w.pattern;
this is probably baby stuff but I'm glad I'm learning it now
before now, I was getting the datasource from sqlcommands directly
 
7:53 PM
i use ef for that
 
DataSource can be any IEnumerable, or IDataSource, or IListSource
 
@DAustin what is ef?
go ef myself?
 
Entity Framework
 
oh
yeah I was doing a bit of that earlier, but I found another way to get the job done
 
    public class Foo : IEnumerable
    {
        public IEnumerator GetEnumerator() => new Bar();
    }

    public class Bar : IEnumerator
    {
        private int _max = 10;
        private int _current = 0;
        private Random _rand = new Random();

        public object Current { get; set; }
        public bool MoveNext()
        {
            if (_current++ > _max)
                return false;

            Current = new {ID = _current, Value = _rand.Next(0, 1000)};
            return true;
Try binding a new Foo() to a datagrid
 
8:00 PM
@Freerey What are you using instead?
 
tying it to an object, as I said
hm...actually it's not looking like anyone I work with uses IEnumerable
 
Do they use lists?
 
okay there are af ew classes where they use ienumerable, but it's hardly anything
 
Do they use arrays?
 
no, what they usually do is tie the datagrid/gridview to a sqlcommand through one of our in-house methods
 
8:02 PM
So probably the result data-table
 
they use this method to load a datatable
and then the datatable is used as a source for the grid
 
and a datatable is an IListSource so it can be bound
 
awesum
 
8:46 PM
Which do you guys think is cleaner code? gist.github.com/tarrzan33/5d4625212c9193ee439134fbc9d05967
 
8:57 PM
at that level of nesting i don't think there's much of a difference
if you started to have additional conditions, I'd return early to reduce nesting.
 
Ahh gotcha. There is a few more vm.Bar = row.Bar assignments in the real method but only like 4
Just curious on others take. Trying to keep my code clean lol
 
9:22 PM
w o w compiling this page ever since I added O-O is taking a lot longer..
 

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