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1:00 PM
what's worse is the person I warned was still in denial lmao
"yes sweetie, you cheated because you're polyamorous -- sure"
 
mr5
@Hozuki you lying. Roel making stupid decisions? That's impossibruh.
 
@mr5 In relationships, the first bunch of women I dated were absolutely awful. But I missed the glowing neon-signs warning about them, because I was so occupied with 'having a relationship'. I think I was attracted to emotional train-wrecks or something. I was pretty dumb. :-D
 
mr5
@Hozuki that's fair. If that didn't happen, you'll live a perfect life. Not that I'm wishing you not to, but that I guess is one of the life's tradeoff.
 
Yeah. Just like programming, or any hobby, you do the best you can and learn as you go along. That's how you progress. Life isn't any different. You need the occasional fuck-up to learn from it.
/endoflifelessonswithroel
 
at least the program doesn't tell you that you're an abuser :D
well actually, my programs do, but that's my fault
 
mr5
1:11 PM
Meh, I met my, which I believe, love of my life back in highschool, and I do still have feelings for her (12 years ago) but we've never been together cuz I'm 1000x stupid as compared to other people back then (now only 999x).
@Hozuki I would love to have a story similar to your life story lol. Sounds fun.
Do you also do audiobooks?
 
I have a similar love-life to roel's from what i can tell
...you do not want it :)
 
mr5
Just realize these two are story tellers. Damn.
 
@mr5 Personally, I don't subscribe to the whole 'love of my life' or 'soulmate' notion. Yes, there are people that you like much more than others, but there's never just one. I don't believe that. Not for one second. There are many people that you can love, but it's challenging to weed out the bad ones from the good ones.
@mr5 Lol I think you're overestimating me here
 
@Hozuki Agreed on that, very good point
For me I ended up being single for about 7 years before meeting my current gf/future wife
I just had no motivation for dealing with a relationship at the time
 
mr5
@Hozuki I do believe cuz I think I felt it.
 
1:15 PM
plus i'm terrible at reading signals
turns out i could have had several relationships in that time, but i didnt notice people were interested and i was wrapped up with my own personal shit
 
damn at least people were interestd
 
yeh, the one i did notice was the polar opposite of your friend's situation
she was 15, and would not leave me alone
a uni mate's younger sister...
 
mr5
@Freerey which one?
 
you do not want my love life lmao
@DAustin "I love a man who's finished puberty 😊"
 
mr5
if the story is written cringely(?), I think I would not want to read it kek.
 
1:18 PM
@Freerey xD yeah I was like 24 I think
was really weird
eventually just had to tell my flatmate to let her know I wasn't interested lol
she wasn't getting the hint lol
 
mr5
My love of my life has shown me all the signs, a sane man could understand in a split second. There was a time during our exam where she got completely zoned out and pass her test papers directly to me (she's seated 7m away), instead of passing it to our teacher. There was also an instance where she's sending lewd texts to me, and my dumb self just decided to make fun of her (pure cringe).
 
@mr5 Bless, how old were you?
 
mr5
I think 15
 
understandable that you may not have got the hint at that age
plus its a lot riskier in a school asking someone out if it goes wrong, as an adult you can pretty much try it with anyone and if it's a no, you dont get humiliated by everyone around you
 
mr5
observing teens nowadays, I think I'm way too dumb =P
Yeah but being adult, specially as a not-a-party-goer type of people, opportunities like that is lot lesser.
 
1:28 PM
@mr5 Even less so with lockdown lol
 
@mr5 ...damn that sounds amazing
I'm legit trying to remember being in school and anyone (who wasn't my gf) doing anything like that to me, but nope
 
mr5
As amazing as it sounds, I can't handle/control my emotions properly whenever she's around (the thing I never felt with my current GF (no offense to her if she ever read this <3))
 
I think my coworker is trying to give me a heart attack
 
[Li] What
 
mr5
Yep, I think she's done all the effort to show all the signs that she wants me to be her bf, and the effort didn't stop until college and finally ended when we got to work.
 
1:34 PM
every single time I make an update he takes UNTIL SEVERAL HOURS AFTER to tell me there's a problem
 
@Freerey Sounds like my boss, replace hours with days/weeks lol
 
either htat or he changes his mind about something being "all good to go"
 
[Squirrel in Training] ^shirt gonna get bottler banend for that i suppose
 
mr5
you think it's personification of Jack?
 
lol, Dispatch manager has just rang me to "Come look at this weird spider"
brb
 
1:41 PM
😃 trick for birthday surprise...
 
mr5
Is WinForms making a come back?
 
God please no
 
[Captain Obvious] God no I hopw not
[Captain Obvious] in VISUAL BASIC no less
[Captain Obvious] If we get botler banned we can just use Jack instead anyway haha
 
Except Jack will have like 3 minutes delay for every message
 
>making a comeback?
was it ever out of service?
 
mr5
1:49 PM
@DAustin I don't really know what a dispatch manager is irl. I only heard it in code lol.
 
[Squirrel in Training] shots fired
[Squirrel in Training] VB FTW lol
 
mr5
VB > Kotlin
 
VB is debuggable in Excel. Kotlin is not... Clear VB is the winner
 
[Squirrel in Training] vb mastarace
 
2:05 PM
@CaptainObvious if we get botler banned, you might finally take a look at the stuff I sent you :p
@mr5 you are talking mad shit for someone in banhammer range
 
[ηασмι] Does this work?
 
@Wietlol Same as you :P
 
gdi it didn't work
stackchat won't be able to see my cursed image
 
mr5
@Wietlol straight facts ✔💯🔥🔥
 
[mr5] lul what happened to her?
[mr5] also, why did you change your name to russian?
 
2:11 PM
it's Greek and I was drawing cursed stuff last night
someone suggested to badly-photoshop that texture onto her sweatshirt
 
Didn't you learn greek in maths too?
 
I already forgot what that little O with the line above it is called
 
[mr5] I see, you're a man of Roel as well with lewd weebs.
[mr5] Would like to have that shirt though
[Captain Obvious] All hail the BSOD
 
I know that symbol as used with sin/cos/tang
I think it was also used with derivatives but idk
 
sigma?
 
2:13 PM
yeah that's it
 
lol well that was a weird spider, it lives out in the car park now
 
nice
Made a photo I hope?
 
Nah, just moved really slowly and odd, we think it was a woodlouse spider after a quick google
this is england so nothing can hurt you lol
one of the few places on earth where you can happily walk through the wilderness with no fear
 
[mr5] @butler1233 some messages didn't get relayed by bot. Bug?
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to send a message on the signal and keep its value? I mean retentive variables.
 
2:17 PM
[Captain Obvious] What message
 
worst things are badgers (nocturnal) and adders, our only venomous snake, and that'll only put you in the hospital for a day if it bites
 
@Botler Exactly
 
[mr5] The picture sent by Freerey and the edited 'twat' of SiT
 
@Renan What signal?
 
message 'Hello wolrd'
Signalr to .netcore 2.1
 
2:19 PM
Ah. How do you mean "keep its value" then? In the hub?
The hub has a Context property you can use to store data for each client.
 
[Captain Obvious] Yeah edits don't work (see #10 on github) and images from discord don't go up to Stack yet
 
yes
 
[Captain Obvious] The image one is now open as #34
 
I put an inner class into my hub just to store variables in the context lol
		private class Property<T>
		{
			private readonly Hub hub;
			private readonly string key;
			public Property(Hub hub, string name)
			{
				this.hub = hub;
				key = name;
			}

			private T Value => (T)hub.Context.Items[key]!;
			internal void Set(T value) => hub.Context.Items[key] = value!;

			public static implicit operator T(Property<T> prop)
			{
				return prop.Value;
			}
		}
 
what is the name of the property? know of any tutorial?
 
2:21 PM
Then for instance vars: private readonly Property<Guid?> Token;
And in the ctor Token = new Property<Guid?>(this, nameof(Token));
So in hub methods I can use it like Token.Set(loginToken);
Although I'm thinking about finding a way to override assignment
Would make it truly seamless
 
Ok ty.
 
@Botler You have an image under #34, not rule 34 I hope...
@Squirrelkiller Gonna sound like a dumbass, but what is the ! operator doing in that code on the end of lines? not come across that before?
 
2:37 PM
It tells the static analyzer "this thing is definitely gonna be not null, I promise now let me alone".
 
[Li] Null forgiving operator
 
Because maybe I could try to cast a null to an int
 
ooo, i probably could have used that a lot in my code had I realised it existed xD
 
[Li] <a:spinwobmorning:743073088303923300>
 
Ta, will have a look in a sec, just wanna wrap up this pdf generator first
 
2:41 PM
Shouldn't use it too often, the check is there for a reason.
 
Yeh just read the docs, not what I was thinking it was lol
 
It's for usage with nullable references
 
Still, all education at the end of the day, cheers for linking me up there Li
@Squirrelkiller Aye, I'll need to take a look at some more examples to see if and where I should be using it in the codebase here
I feel like im back on Front-End development atm lol, building a pdf design in code, "refreshing" the output to see if the line i drew is in the right place, rinse-repeat lol
feels like good ol css
 
@CaptainObvious have you finally looked at the Wietbot integration?
 
2:49 PM
dang it
 
Still not entirely conviced
dll sus
 
hehe
dotPeek
btw... any blazor fans here?
I am wondering how Blazor does ui via wasm
 
Only tried it once
What do you mean "how it does ui"
 
does it generate html dom or does it use a new technology?
 
html5?
 
2:55 PM
Oh I don't knoe
 
last time I checked, WASM was quite bad at dom stuff
and dom stuff (html) is actually a very poor way of transferring information in an application
 
No idea lol it just worksâ„¢
 
if wasm really wants to do ui, I would imagine it would have a different way of interacting with it
 
looks like it's not directly html output
 
still that is html + js to interact with it
but why do we have to generate html? why not directly tell the browser what to render?
 
2:58 PM
And how the hell would you do that
Oh right yeah with html
 
Well you would have to develop some kind of hm...protocol to tell the browser what to render, some kind of language.
 
well...
 
"The generated HTML document loads the JavaScript glue file and writes stdout to a <textarea>. If the application uses OpenGL, the HTML also contains a <canvas> element that is used as the rendering target. It’s very easy to modify the Emscripten output and turn it into whatever web app you require"
^ I don't understand what would wasm do with the <canvas> + OpenGL
 
Might wanna render things in special format too, so the language might need some kind of markup
 
I suppose I am just not used to browsers having to already support the feature 5 years before people start to use it
 
3:00 PM
btw I tried to use github.com/BlazorExtensions/Canvas , but it was funky
like the canvas reloaded every click action
 
but generally speaking, I would provide an api of wasm functions that the wasm module could use
the browser's engine would expose those functions and operate on the ui
 
But where is it going to draw the content?
 
on the window
 
Where on the window
 
wherever you said it should
 
3:03 PM
So you could define a drawing region
Perhaps in some sort of markup
 
but why should the website format that markup in a particular markup language only for the same application to then parse that source to find out what the markup is?
it is basically doing markup = HtmlDeserialize<Markup>(HtmlSerialize(markup));
 
Congratulations, you've just discovered why the web, javscript frameworks, etc, is such ficking garbage
 
and for JS, I can understand why
but for wasm, we can do much better than that
 
Not really
 
why not?
 
3:05 PM
Wasm is a replacement option for JS, not for the entire webpage
It doesn't have its own UI (unless you arse about drawing one)
 
@CaptainObvious i thought wasm was more of a replacement for ajax than js itself?
 
I am not sure I understand why that prevents wasm from becoming a fine replacement
JS was not meant for what it is now either
 
Not yet unfortunately. For now AFAIK WASM has no direct access to the DOM, opposed to JS.
 
Without HTML, there is no UI
Oh yeah there's that too
Wasm is stupid
 
3:07 PM
without html, there is no text document to describe the ui
 
I want to skip that textual description
 
ive never had a chance to play with it, so i cant pass judgement
 
You can't skip it
 
:(
 
3:08 PM
The browser renders based on what the HTML tells it to render
That's it, there is no other option
 
Well I mean techically ntohl is right, you could still go the graphics route.
 
Yeah but that's still drawing on the HTML defined canvas
The canvas element is just a html tag which has a buffer which you can draw any random shit to
 
I thought <canvas> lets you draw without using html inside
 
Then the browser just goes "sure" and copies the buffer to the screen
 
That's "the graphics route" I meant. Just tell it pixel by pixel basically.
 
3:12 PM
I wanted that...
 
It's pretty fucking stupid to throw out HTML for graphics. Unless it's a game.
 
Never question Wiet's Quest for Stupidity
8
 
:D
 
mr5
I think generating html using wasm would still be faster as compared to JS generating it. wasm is already compiled while JS needs to get interpreted first. The html renderers like <insert js dom generator library here> would benefit from performance.
 
3:28 PM
Presuming wasm may access the DOM
lol
 
mr5
the browsers could expose an api for them (I'm not sure really)
 
> the runtime performance of WebAssembly is typically only 2 to 3 times faster than JavaScript
only
 
except when 10
 
@Squirrelkiller lol yeh who wants performance improvements anyways?
 
one shiba a day keeps the doctor away
!~shiba
 
aww
 
3:48 PM
[mywrathacademia] I don't remember the problem I was having with rider's C# interactive. I'll update you when I get around to using it again.
 
mr5
user image
3
 
@mr5 hahahaha, love it
 
"We regret to inform you ..." - the thing that informed you
oh what a conundrum
 
that game has all the signs of being a buggy mess on release day, hope no one here pre ordered lol
 
how can you regret something that you have yet to do...
and if you already know the regrets, why not prevent it from happening?
 
3:58 PM
So don't inform them? Kinda a chicken and egg situation there
 
@DAustin the game is already gold
the only reason it got delayed last time is cause it needs to go on multiple platforms
 
Gergely Orosz on November 25, 2020
Based on reviewing hundreds of resumes per year and researching a book, here are the seven pieces of advice for engineers on writing a resume that represents you as fairly as possible.
 
4:17 PM
@mr5 If they delay it one more time they might aswell cancle it
I has a big fat "FAILURE" written on it already
 
4:35 PM
how is my clientele this disabled
"ID UNNO HOW TO USE THEI SNIPPING TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!!/??!!/"
 
Mood
 
I specifically stated "look up snip & sketch"
they go to snipping tool instead
they're told they cant snip unless they download an app
YES
YOU
CAN
 
isnt snipping tool built into windows like????
 
win key + shift + s
 
this is the same person who keeps calling me during my break
 
5:21 PM
\o
 
[MR.TaNk] Just call him at 3
 
For once the feeds bot has given me something useful lol
 
[Captain Obvious] Feeds is never useful
[Captain Obvious] It's also ignored by the relay bot so I don't even know what you're referring to
 
5:36 PM
Hello everyone
can anybody help me regarding this
 
5:48 PM
Gergely Orosz on November 25, 2020
Based on reviewing hundreds of resumes per year and researching a book, here are the seven pieces of advice for engineers on writing a resume that represents you as fairly as possible.
seeing as I'll need to update my CV soon
@ZMAX try changing your onclick="" calls without the parenthesis i.e.
OnClick="Click_btnLast" instead of OnClick="Click_btnLast()"
 
Do we even need an effective developer resume?
 
@Hozuki Iono, my CV already meets a lot of what's written there, but I come from Graphic Design originally so my CV ought to be well designed lol
its just useful for someone like me who hasn't really applied for developer jobs much
tbf my cv's pretty good at getting me interviews, i just suck at the interview stage xD
 
[Li] Who needs an effective resume when you can have one like mine and still get jobs anyway
[Li] Imo I don't think it really matters much what it looks like. Experience is more important but guess you could argue it should look nice as it's like presenting yourself but
[Li] <:weebshrug:487732282690502657>
 
6:04 PM
Well its more about communicating the information quickly, don't waste the hiring managers time by making it difficult to find relevant info etc
don't waffle on about the details, that's for the interview itself
if you get one ofc
 
my resume: I write meme code and it somehow works
 
@DAustin if I remove () from Click_btnSubmit . the event is not firing at all
onclick event doesn't fire
 
If you are getting the alert("ok") message it is firing, its just not running the AJAX request, nothing in console errors?
anyways im off for now, have fun all xoxoxox
 
[Li] Wym meme code
[Li] <:Thunk:589548199023345688>
 
6:22 PM
@DAustin yes I am getting alert("OK") but after that nothing
nothing in console errors
 
6:36 PM
[misha] God i wish that was me ^
[Li] What in the Holy hell
[Li] Make the suffering stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
6:52 PM
all classes there derive from Shape, which does not implement Points member, but them all implement.
Is there a way to turn the code more generic?
 
[Captain Obvious] There is
[Captain Obvious] Although it's dirty
 
something like Generics?
 
so, what is it?
 
[Captain Obvious] Basically you can do something like var dynamicShape = (dynamic) x;
[Captain Obvious] And then you do x.Points no problem
[misha] Wasnt something c# 8 or 9 about this
[Captain Obvious] * dynamicShape.Points sorry
 
6:57 PM
(Y) thanks
 
[Captain Obvious] Beaware though that if you get something which doesn't have a .Points property, you're gonna have a bad time
[mywrathacademia] Late to the party, but I totally know the feeling.
[mywrathacademia] Damn right, the safest place on earth. Don't forget, no hurricanes, tornadoes, or earthquakes. The worst thing I've ever experienced is hail stones causing me to flee for shelter.
 
may be my version does not support it
I got error CS0656: Missing compiler required member 'Microsoft.CSharp.RuntimeBinder.CSharpArgumentInfo.Create'
 
[mywrathacademia] But we fear rain constantly
[mywrathacademia] But what if the bite occurs near to your heart? I think when poison enters the bloodstream it travels towards the heart, and it is when it reaches the heart that it could be fatal?
 
from social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/vstudio/en-US/… may be I need to add a Reference to Microsoft.CSharp to use the feature
 
7:40 PM
oh guys sorry about some days ago, i asked if anyone could help me, instead of asking the freaking question itself and you guys replied much latter and ooooof i was not here anymore :D
apologies for that
 
8:38 PM
@sergiol if you want full yolo you can do Visitor pattern with it...
 
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