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12:09 AM
Nevermind the above. I republished the same web site from another workstation and that mysteriously fixed the problem.
 
 
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mr5
2:02 AM
_ = task.ContinueWith(e =>
{
    exceptionHandler?.Invoke(e.Exception);
});
Suppose task is type Task, exceptionHandler is Action<Exception>
Does the above satisfy the assumption that it will fire then forget its result but capture the exception if there's any?
should I check if e.Exception is null or e.IsFaulted in case there's an unhandled exception thrown?
 
3:10 AM
task.ContinueWith(exceptionHandler)
how do you know the task has been failed?
how do you know if it was unrelevant exception, like TaskCancelledException?
 
mr5
3:22 AM
@nyconing it doesn't matter as long as it's exception
1 hour ago, by mr5
should I check if e.Exception is null or e.IsFaulted in case there's an unhandled exception thrown?
 
afaik task.IsFaulted indicate task is failed and exception will be available
so if (task.IsFaulted) exceptionHandler?.Invoke(task.Exception)
sorry if (task.IsFaulted) task.ContinueWith(exceptionHandler)
I dont usually use multiple tasks, it burn my brain
I instead use a lot of async
 
Rob
What are you trying to do, exactly?
 
Rob
You want to start a fire-and-forget task and then also log any exception?
 
mr5
3:43 AM
@Rob yes
if (!task.IsFaulted)
    return;

Exception ex = task.Exception;
while (ex.InnerException != null)
    ex = ex.InnerException;
exceptionHandler?.Invoke(ex);
I also made this. Seems to be working though
 
you need to parse the inner exception in exceptionHandler
 
mr5
I don't think I need to. I'm only interested on the source Exception
 
Until you get Invocation error or One or more exception occurred
hehe
I parse innerexception on logger recrusively if innerexception available
 
mr5
Why would accessing the InnerException produce another Exception?
Also, putting this inside the exceptionHandler would just render boilerplate codes
 
 
3 hours later…
7:21 AM
morning
 
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' squirrelerinos!
 
Less sick than yesterday, yay!
 
7:44 AM
@Neil but still sick
 
yes, technically
 
@Squirrelkiller before I ask dr. googlue, do you have a nice design pattern to handle communication from a REST endpoint (to access data from a public api)?
 
@Squirrelintraining RestEase
 
mr5
8:00 AM
@Squirrelintraining googlue?
"hey goo goo"
 
it is legit difficult to "win" with 4 planets
 
Rob
Crashes shortly after the timer
 
nice
 
mr5
8:13 AM
 
mr5
@Rob that's copying
how did you make the cool flip?
 
Rob
@mr5 Copying?
 
mr5
@Rob you're copying the solar system model
 
Rob
Er, in what way?
 
mr5
8:15 AM
the rotations
 
if that's copying the solar system model, then we're about to spiral out into space and earth will freeze over
 
mr5
planet orbits the sun, while all moving towards the same direction
 
@Neil easy done with 6
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining show your setup
 
@Squirrelintraining proof?
 
Rob
8:17 AM
@mr5 They're not in the same direction though
 
that doesn't win
 
Its a star system that doesn't crash
it win
 
8:18 AM
10 seconds have to pass
 
I counted like 5
 
mr5
@Neil where did you find that game?
 
Rob
@mr5 Check mine again. Red and blue are in opposite directions. But in any case... I'm not sure how you'd simulate planets in a system without it looking like ... a simulation of a system :P
 
jow does one delete planets?
 
Rob
8:20 AM
shift click
 
ty
There was a faulty planet in the middle that crashed it
Thats why it didnt work for your guys deleted it and now it works again
@Neil now with real link: williamhoza.com/newton/…
There we go
There there there
 
@mr5 someone posted a link to one of the site's other weird oddities and I started looking around
 
there is no movement without perspective positioning comparison
 
@Squirrelintraining yep, now it works
 
mr5
> Newton's Nightmare. Written by Seng Kwangon September 1, 2013. This demonstration is called Newton's nightmare because it involves the slow dropping of a magnet that seems to be inconsitent with gravitational acceleration.
Is this an official theory from Newton himself?
 
8:23 AM
@Neil see didn't even take 2 mins
 
also this was weird
@Squirrelintraining good for you! Everyone see what a great gamer this guy is? He's so great!
 
@Neil Gotta star this
And pin it
Everybody needs to know!
 
hah
 
EVERBODY SEE WHAT A GREAT PERSON I AM?
 
good morning
 
mr5
8:28 AM
@Neil I'm wondering what an AI could do if he's given with 100+ planets lol
@Neil not working :/
 
8:40 AM
@mr5 small orbits wonderign threw spaaaace
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining you're no person. stop using person words
@Squirrelintraining I believe you also used person thing to edit this. you're nowhere near look like this in your profile pfft
 
@mr5 probably many virtually stationary planets which barely miss each other
@mr5 you have to give the page access to your camera
 
mr5
I manually did and reloaded the page. Still not functioning
Maybe Chrome for Mac is not supported?
 
@mr5 Sorry youre right
@mr5 Pah the good old gloy days eh?
 
@mr5 no idea. Chrome for PC works at least
 
8:56 AM
@Neil great thanks..
 
sure :)
 
9:34 AM
@Squirrelkiller yo, I heard DOTA is dying
 
I think you heard wrong
Unless you mean DotA 1, that might be dying
 
about 40% player drop across all modes in a few months
including both standard DOTA and underlords
 
That's impossible. It died 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, just last year, and now again?!
 
I mean DOTA 2 obv
@RoelvanUden I didn't hear it die before
I even came back from time to time
 
It's challenge time:
Add a fith planet which has the same rotation as the other 4 around the big center planet.
https://williamhoza.com/newton/?planets=5&x0=405&y0=284&xv0=0&yv0=0&m0=3000&x1=367&y1=286&xv1=0.3&yv1=11.7&m1=100&x2=322&y2=287&xv2=-0.1&yv2=9.3&m2=200&x3=521&y3=285&xv3=-0.3&yv3=-7.9&m3=100&x4=641&y4=288&xv4=-0.1&yv4=-5&m4=200
 
9:39 AM
There's always someone saying a game is dead even when it's obviously not ;-)
 
@RoelvanUden Nah now it's for real reals
they are fucking allot up and arn't advertising it what so ever
 
mr5
@HéctorÁlvarez y u didn't tag me on this
and yes, DOTA2 is dying
Ranked Games are very stressful
so they introduced Turbo mode
and it slowly turned stressful too
 
I get the idea that DOTA2 and LOL have very toxic communities
 
@mr5 turbo has been there for 6 years bra
 
mr5
@Squirrelintraining no. it's only been 2-3 years
 
9:54 AM
@mr5 Nah longer
Ok u rite damn
It was added in 7.07
2017-10-31
 
@Squirrelintraining your challenge sucks
 
@Squirrelintraining fuck
 
I need to do actual work now. I've lost too much time as it is
 
@Neil hahaha why it sucks?
@HéctorÁlvarez hahaha :D
 
10:03 AM
@Squirrelintraining this is my favorite williamhoza.com/newton/…
 
@Squirrelintraining 'cause I can't do it, that's why
 
@Wietlol ya its nice
@Neil haha me neither :D
 
can you imagine how it would be to live on that planet?
 
yeah, would be interesting to see an AI try to solve that
maybe you'd see a pattern emerge
 
10:08 AM
ok, here come our neighbours again
aaaaaand.... ok, this year, they missed us by 2 meters
 
@Neil wrtie one :D
 
still didnt beat the record of 4 years ago, where they missed us by 1.64 meters
 
@Wietlol The gravity would deform the planet and cause major issues
I think it wouldn't be habitable
 
nah, theyll be fine
 
@Squirrelintraining williamhoza.com/newton/…
suck on this
I didn't know you could alter the mass of planets
 
10:09 AM
they say that the earth not being tidely locked with the sun was crucial to life being formed
 
haha :D
Are you searchign for them online?
 
and so many planets we've seen are tidely locked with its sun
 
@Squirrelintraining no
 
@HéctorÁlvarez ded in 723 tho
 
is that an option?
Takes the fun away
I think i can add more ball combos
I just copied your super swirling ball thing
 
10:11 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez can you create a triple orbit system?
 
noticed that was making a lot of points, and added a second one
 
that's a dual orbit system
you'd need two more of those in an orbit with each other
 
@HéctorÁlvarez lel
Thats mercurary ok?
mercurary and the sum
 
@HéctorÁlvarez https://williamhoza.com/newton/?planets=5&x0=405&y0=314&xv0=0&yv0=0&m0=3000&x1=344&y1=316&xv1=0.1&yv1=10.4&m1=100&x2=406&y2=375&xv2=10.3&yv2=0&m2=100&x3=465&y3=314&xv3=-0.1&yv3=-10.4&m3=100&x4=405&y4=254&xv4=-10.7&yv4=0.1&m4=100

Somehwere its not perfect
I need to analyze the link
or possible cuz the main planet has momentum aswell
 
10:16 AM
uranus
!~shiba
 
@Squirrelintraining I was trying to do that
but you gotta go fastah
 
@HéctorÁlvarez pls fix this williamhoza.com/newton/…
 
10:22 AM
they're chaotic systems. very unpredictable beyond 2 planets
 
@Neil screw you they're beautiful!
Only problem with this is, that the center planets don't rotate constantly they always move slightly
 
@Squirrelintraining oof I tried but no luck
 
that's what they do in real life as well
the weight of the sun is such that it is virtually unmeasureable
 
weight ?
weight are unrelevant term in space
 
I swear
 
10:30 AM
they do measured the mass of sun
 
tomato tomato
 
this tool i'm building in order to find differences in these client websites is great because every time there's a difference I'm not expecting, it throws an error
So many workarounds just to collect data D:
 
weight only used when gravity applied, and mass are measurable and pretty accurate
 
@nyconing just divide by G, and there you go
it's not like weight is "immeasureable" or "inaccurate"
it's literally the same, with a constant multiplied to it
 
in space, g=1.0e-∞
 
10:37 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez darn
 
value divide by virtually zero are calculate able, so your weight is virtually measureable
 
@nyconing nerd
 
but the result is still 1.0e-∞
thats why using mass
 
@nyconing well I wasn't giving numbers, was I?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez I DID IT!
https://williamhoza.com/newton/?planets=6&x0=377&y0=316&xv0=0&yv0=7.7&m0=3000&x1=434&y1=315&xv1=0&yv1=-7.9&m1=3000&x2=556&y2=315&xv2=0&yv2=9.2&m2=100&x3=405&y3=464&xv3=-8.9&yv3=-0.1&m3=100&x4=255&y4=314&xv4=0&yv4=-8.9&m4=100&x5=406&y5=165&xv5=9&yv5=0.2&m5=100
 
10:39 AM
∞_∞
 
But it fails right after teh success
 
were you doing the calculations and it didn't add up because you divided by 1?
 
at 4/10 :D
 
ends up mass of the sun = 1.989 × 10^30 kg or 333,000 × Earth
 
²∞²∞
 
10:40 AM
ups didnt reashare
 
if you used weights instead of mass, so long as you accounted for each mass's G, you'd end up with the same result
I admit I see the logic in using mass, but it's a pedantic point you're making
you knew what I meant
 
@Squirrelintraining it crashes at 161
@Squirrelintraining that one worked yay
 
@HéctorÁlvarez fixed the wrong link
 
@Squirrelintraining wow. you need to share your workout routine with me :o
 
10:44 AM
I win tho, I got max score: williamhoza.com/newton/…
Since it lasts until infinity I have a system that scores infinity x 0
 
@Hans1984 its a trafdemark secret
 
So I got both the best and the worst score in the same game.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez score 0?^^
 
@Squirrelintraining oh, okay
 
10:45 AM
oh wait true, score stops counting
 
no, if you calculate the weight of sun in space, in human calculator, its zero
 
williamhoza.com/newton/… @HéctorÁlvarez nailed the 400/400
 
That's impressive
We give you the title of "just in time".
 
@nyconing so it would seem, but you seemed to arrive at the intended meaning just the same, did you not?
 
@nyconing What about alien calculator
 
10:50 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez glurg
the weight of the star Yymm5 is glurg
 
@HéctorÁlvarez exactly
what about them?
 
11:22 AM
Did.. did Putin just create the role prime minister of Russia just so that he could be prime minister in 2024?
 
IIRC he switches between president and prime minister so he can retain power
 
yep, he can no longer be president
I understand he has enemies that would love to see him step down from office
 
I mean, its putin so
 
I wondered what he would do in 2024
now it seems we have the answer
Also, can someone please explain to me why the push to make big ben ring when brexit happens?
 
his year starting speech contained a lot of change in the structure. In my read it was a move towards a more democratic system, but everyone stepping down showed otherwise
 
11:34 AM
I'd think the money is kind of needed right now..
@ntohl all you have to do to know who is pulling the strings is look at their commentary "We're doing it to get out of the presidents way."
that's not the comment of someone who was asked to leave their cushy job in politics and is either free to speak freely or isn't fearful of their own lives
 
@HéctorÁlvarez a friggn really stable looking 399 williamhoza.com/newton/…
 
You really are pushing the pixel there lol
IDK why 1 of your planets starts to move faster
 
@HéctorÁlvarez The white/gray one has got a slightly higher starting velocity
 
it's got to be a couple pixels off the perfect position / velocity
the margin of error gets multiplied
 
Aye
Can you fix it @Neil?
 
11:48 AM
I already lost half an hour due to your challenge :P
 
Welp now that one is more easy :D
 
it's written in javascript
you could theoretically setup the planet positions programmatically
 
Only?
I have to do a data model analysis and compare it to a production-ready vCenter one to see what we can translate and all I've done is extract the ER model from the DB
Seriously I don't want to do this
I am too inexpensive to be doing data modeling
 
12:06 PM
how can you be too inexpensive for something?
did they pay you one too many euros that now you have regrets about doing data modeling now?
 
It's not what I'm here for
gimme a raise
then I'll do modeling stuff
Like I'm not a software dev at the moment, my contract says I do automation stuff.
 
beh, you of all people should know by now that you're part of the jobs typically described as "programmer, developer, coder"
that means you do any and everything technical from installing Office to creating database indices
 
Don't forget we fix dishwashers too
 
@HéctorÁlvarez if you look closely enough at your contract
There's likely a part that goes over you responsibilities
And will also have a "And anything else that is asked by the business"
or something like that
 
No but in all seriousness now, I've been told a few times I am straying too far from my duties, and doing stuff that should be done by someone else. But that's why I've already got a lot of commendations and remote work in the first place.
 
12:13 PM
I'm confused
You've been told you are doing stuff you shouldn't be as its not your duty
But you've also been given a task that isn't your duty?
 
I also was confused when they told me to stop doing someone else's job and go have a coffee for 20 minutes.
 
Yes because it's a different situation
 
Your Job actually sounds quite nice
 
this time it's like the manager is getting punched from all sides and needs my help with this.
 
12:14 PM
ah
 
The client is a jerk, but they are also entitled to be jerks because they've been paying for a whole month of my availability, and the manager hasn't briefed me up properly.
I had to chase him to get an idea of what we're after.
The client wants to know if their trash mysql (not mariaDB) can be used to build a vCenter manager.
My manager told me to charge my time on the task even if I'm doing something else, because they pay for my availability and not for the actual time I spend. Project manager told me to charge only the time I actually spend. Like hell, I don't care, go kiss.
 
That sounds like you need to get both of them together
and then ask them again
OR
Get one of them to send you an email confirming that
Because otherwise you'll end up in a situation where you try to explain what has happened
and then you won't be able to prove you were told to do whatever you do
 
I told my manager (which is the one I obey) to talk to him
 
I mean tbh
I'd always follow instructions from line manager
UNLESS its someone who is above them
for example, IT Manager tells you to focus on a
then IT Director says don't do a, do b instead
Then do b
 
@CaptainSquirrel This already happened, project manager asked what was happening, why no progress but many expenses. I said my manager told me to do that, he got mad and told me to not the real time in a different spreadsheet. So now I do, I explained I don't give 2 newton balls about how to report time but I obey my direct superior, he appears to be happy for now, but it kinda makes me uncomfortable to fill in time twice.
 
12:27 PM
I mean
Its not a terrible idea to keep track of the actual time you spend for that client
as its possible that your line manager might change their tune and want you to change the way you track your time
 
12:56 PM
Where's @RoelvanUden when you need him
cri cri cri
 
1:06 PM
What time do you call this @Harry
 
Harry is late
 
He's also incredibly rude
 
indeed
very un-british
but then hes a roach
 
is being a roach a very un-british thing to be?
 
Shots fired
 
1:16 PM
@Neil it is
unless you are a british roach
well then..
 
in fact
 
I dont know
 
british roaches are british
 
:O
 
Sup plebs
I'm here, live from many miles away from my usual office
Down in Stoke on trent
 
1:27 PM
@CaptainSquirrel What'd you need me for?
 
What amkes a rocah british anyway
 
@RoelvanUden I was struggling with some puppeteer stuff but i have figured it out :D
 
@CaptainSquirrel Alright cool :-) Don't hesitate to ask tho! :-)
 
I shan't
@CaptainObvious their consumption of tea
Oh would you look at that
its food o'clock
 
It's an hour past food o'clock here
 
1:30 PM
haha food o'clock
 
@CaptainObvious patriotism
so the question is
is this roach a true patriot
anyway...
 
I dunno. Is all cheese from Switzerland Swiss Cheese?
that's a philosophical debate for ya
 
@Neli has a good point
 
Asking the important questions
and as usual whenever Britain and cheese come together in conversation, I have to reference this : youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A
 
@Neil only if they are true patriots
the slices of cheese of course
 
1:39 PM
@Neli omg I totally forgot about these series... one of the best
 
tomorrow its friday
\o/
 
@Neil That was good.
 
@RoelvanUden you've never seen that one before?
 
I haven't. I must admit that I dislike most Monty Python sketches. This one was interesting. :-)
 
1:49 PM
very in-style with Monty Python sketches
 
-Do you have any cheese at all? -NO!
 
health center phone: "it may take up to 5 minutes to connect to an operator"
*has been over 10 minutes*
 
Have you seen the one with the argument clinic?
 
@Hans we don't do patriotism
 
ok
 
1:57 PM
@Neil brilliant
@RoelvanUden Wat
HEATHEN
REEEEEEEEEEE
 
maybe these guys wouldn't be getting so many calls if their damn website actually worked
 
@Squirrelintraining Guess my humor differs from yours eh.
 
omg this is like trying to connect tot he student health center as a college freshman
 
why are you calling them? are you alright?
@Alrey
 

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