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2:41 AM
@cybernautmik You access the array outside bound.
 
 
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mr5
3:44 AM
the reviewer is OA
 
 
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6:00 AM
Gooood moorniiiiing CeeeShaaarp!! Have you done anything you hadn't done for a long time lately?
 
Morning; yes, I did: writing C# code
Or # code in general
 
How long hadn't you written before that?
Also, did you write F# code too lately? The only other # language I can think of.
 
Hmm, like three or four months
Yeah, F#
 
Good morning
 
6:21 AM
Buenos dias
 
GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' squirrelerinos!
 
6:42 AM
\o
 
Hello, first time join group :)
 
Microsoft is warning users of older versions of Windows to urgently apply a Windows Update today to protect against a potential widespread attack.
Windows 10 and Windows 8 are safe
 
@Squirrelintraining squirrelerinos or... squirrelinos?
The question is why are there people using WinXP still.
I get Windows 7, it was a good OS, but damn XP, they just rolled out some patches for XP and WS2008
 
Because traditional banks are slow AF?
 
good to know all they do is hoard money, not like they'd be susceptible to theft unlike local porridge traders
 
mr5
6:48 AM
@nyconing is Windows XP included?
 
Yes. Said "Windows XP, Windows 7, and server versions like Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008 R2, and Windows Server 2008."
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Cuz they can't upgrade their cash dispensers
 
they *won't
Of course they can
It jsut costs them money
 
“the best way to address this vulnerability is to upgrade to the latest version of Windows.” - Microsoft. lel
 
Cash dispensers that costs money.
Micosoft
 
6:55 AM
good morning
 
posted on May 15, 2019 by Scott Hanselman

If you find yourself learning C# and .NET and come upon the "Run your first C# Program" documentation you may have noticed a "Try the code in your browser" button that lets you work through your first app entirely online, with no local installation! You're running C# and .NET in the browser! It's a great way to learn that is familiar to folks who learn JavaScript. The language team at Microsof

 
Every money withdrawal is a DLC if you are twisted enough
 
7:14 AM
How is this not valid gitlab ci yml?!
MSBUILD: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2017\BuildTools\MSBuild\15.0\Bin\MSBuild.exe"
 
@Feeds what a nutty idea IMO
cuz if gitlab killerino
 
Ah damn
escape the backslashes...
 
7:58 AM
Hey people I am creating a WPF sales application and I would like to know how to send items searched from the Datagrid to another element(currently unknown- been toying with using multiple listboxes or another datagrid that is unbound). My issue is I would like when a user selects an item multiple times, that the unknown element's price and quantity column be updated. Anyone have an idea or a work around on how to go about this?
 
unbound?
 
IDK if this has been shared around here btw
 
just do the connections on the model side. Notify the "unbound" other datagrid/listboxes items whenever a change is happening. Than thoses' implementation of INotifyPropertyChanged will take care of the rest.
 
OH hello net to.. Half life
 
morning chaps
 
8:11 AM
> curl -v https://mysite.atlassian.net --user me@example.com:my-api-token
- https://confluence.atlassian.com/cloud/api-tokens-938839638.html
why do I get the feeling that is not a valid curl?
 
8:22 AM
Hey cucaracha
Written correct?
@chesaro no like nthol said, do it in the vm
 
wants to build a slack feature in our system
 
How do you deal with being the only software developer in your (small) company? I find that the lack of someone I can talk about e.g. design/architecture is frustrating at times
 
looks at existin libraries for slack
makes the mistake of looking at the javascript libraries
> 129 libraries found
sighs
@AndreasDuering you buy a rubber duck
 
Good day everyone
I have a question in C# array
how to validate if there is no grouped[3]
 
ok
 
8:29 AM
there are moments where it can have value
 
arrays are consecutive
if the size/length/count/whatever > 3, you have an element 3
 
because I'm supplying the grouped[3] to my another class. But what if there is no grouped[3] in a specific time
 
@AndreasDuering oh. The freedom. You can sell any bullshit you like
 
@AndreasDuering Thatswhy I was in this chat at my old work
Awell rubberduck
 
you can tell any excuse without anyone checking on you. It's heaven
 
8:32 AM
@AppleCiderYummy define "there is no [value]". An array is a sequentially allocated memory space. So if you defined grouped as new MyClass[10], then there is a grouped[3]. It might not contain any meaningful value, but that's a different question (and probably the one you're asking).
 
@AppleCiderYummy YOu want to check that the 3rd index in the group array hasnt been said?
 
@AppleCiderYummy use another set which returns true/false for 3
 
So I have this code
 const string splits = "EMT";
        var grouped = employees
            .GroupBy(e => splits.Count(c => e.EmployeeName[0] > c)).OrderBy(k => k.Key).ToArray();
 
Ah, you're not actually checking for an index but for a key?
 
no, he is
var grouped = ....ToArray();
grouped[3] is per index
 
8:34 AM
        return new MainDto
        {
            AtoE = grouped[0]
                ?.Select(x => new SubDto
                {
                    Name = x.EmployeeName,
                    IsInclude = true
                }).OrderBy(o => o.Name),
            FtoM = grouped[1]
                ?.Select(x => new SubDto
                {
                    Name = x.EmployeeName,
                    IsInclude = true
                }).OrderBy(o => o.Name),
            NtoT = grouped[2]
                ?.Select(x => new SubDto
So here I'm having a problem
it works well, when grouped[0] to grouped[3] have values
 
you can do something like if (grouped.Length <= 3) throw new ArgumentException("not enough 'whatever' to do whatever the heck its doing")
 
But the problem is, what if, there is no data that will be displayed in grouped[3], so grouped[3] is not present
 
or... InvalidStateException
 
but what if grouped[1] isn't present?
or even grouped[2]
 
I think your group/array approach is wrong. You don't need an array if you have a certain fixed set of possible groupings.
 
8:36 AM
@ntohl thanks man.
 
you should ?.OrderBy I think
 
I tried it, @ntohl it doesn't work
 
than thoose FtoM, NtoT, etc. should handle null case too
 
enum NameGroup
{
      AtoE, FtoM, NtoT,  UtoZ
}

NameGroup GetNameGroup(string name) => switch (name[0]) ...;

employees.GroupBy(emp => GetNameGroup(emp.Name)).ToDictionary(group => group.Key);
 
@AppleCiderYummy as I said, arrays are consecutive
if 3 exists, 2, 1 and 0 do so too
 
8:38 AM
GetNameGroup maps between a name and a group. The GroupBy gives you a dictionary of NameGroup->Names.
 
an array is an ordered collection
array[0] is the first element
array[1] is the second element
etc
if there is a fourth element (array[3]) then there is also a third, second and first element
and if the length is greater than or equal to 4, there is a fourth element
 
So instead of checking if "group #3" exists, you check whether "group NtoT" exists. It's keyed to the group, not to an arbitrary index.
 
yes, because I can't rely with index. it changes if the other expected indexes have no value
 
@Wietlol :46215750 Well, rubber duck won't work, I'm in an open office space, this would annoy my colleagues
 
don't rely on enum indexes unless order is relevant
in a database, save the enum name, not the index otherwise you risk maintenance hell
 
8:46 AM
Anyway, I think I need to change my code
it looks complicated
So, what I need is just group by all the names by 4
so I will have a list employees of A to E, F to M, N to T and U to Z
based from my list of employees
array with index is a bad option
any suggestions sir?
 
11 mins ago, by Avner Shahar-Kashtan
enum NameGroup
{
      AtoE, FtoM, NtoT,  UtoZ
}

NameGroup GetNameGroup(string name) => switch (name[0]) ...;

employees.GroupBy(emp => GetNameGroup(emp.Name)).ToDictionary(group => group.Key);
 
@AppleCiderYummy Do what Avner suggested, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble. Replace group[0] with group[AtoE] for example
 
Why using group when you didnt actually used?
employees.Where(x=>x.EmployeeName.ElementAtOrDefault(0) == 'E')
 
@nyconing But I need a range like A to E
@nyconing if I use Where, it will end me up making a lot of where clauses
employees.Where(x=>x.EmployeeName.ElementAtOrDefault(0) == 'A')
employees.Where(x=>x.EmployeeName.ElementAtOrDefault(0) == 'B')
employees.Where(x=>x.EmployeeName.ElementAtOrDefault(0) == 'C') ... to Z
 
9:03 AM
string splits = "EMT";
Employee[][] splitedList = splits.Select(prefix => employees.Where(x => x.EmployeeName.ElementAtOrDefault(0) == prefix).ToArray()).ToArray();
 
@AppleCiderYummy That's why you create the little classifier function, GetNameGroup.
 
Then, splitedList[0] is a list of 'E' prefixed Employees name. It will empty when none of them.
 
That's a good approach as well, because it will leave you with an empty entry - not a missing one - but at (potentially minimal) cost of querying several times.
 
@AndreasDuering is there a reason you care about your colleagues?
you are the entire IT department
you need to be productive
you need a rubber duck session every day
 
@Wietlol It depends on the individual, of course, but I know I wouldn't be half as productive (or know half as much as I do today) if I didn't have coworkers to bounce ideas off of, learn from and also teach (which teaches you a lot, too)
 
9:07 AM
but if you dont have IT colleagues... you need a rubber duck :D
or chat.stackoverflow.com
both work
 
maybe I'll just go back to regular listing without getting alphabet letters grouping
 
> Often mistaken for rubber ducks
@Wietlol
 
@Wietlol Thanks for the motivation :) #I actually wondered whether I should additionally go into some slack channels, but at some point I might too busy with reading chats. At least I scroll over hot SO questions in an attempt to find / learn interesting stuff.
 
I think chats are pretty interesting... but I am only in chat.so and a few discord channels for games
chat.so is the only one I use for programming questions and stuff
second opinions
rants
etc
talking about rants... I havent ranted in a while...
(at least in C-harp room)
 
I use F# slack and exercism slack too
or rather say lurk
 
9:18 AM
slurk
 
mr5
So English in Danish is spelled as "Engelsk"
If I pronounce it, it sounds like I am chewing a bubble gum
 
inkerly shi
 
dunglish
dutch + english
yet, I am clueless why it is called dung-lish
its not that bad
 
Damn today I've only slept for 5 hours and my vision is blurring randomly
Any ideas to stay awake?
 
talk
 
mr5
9:24 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez sleep in the cr
 
cr?
cow room?
 
mr5
comfort room
 
There's no comfort room in this office
 
mr5
I do that whenever I badly need sleep while on work
wat
 
Or rather I'll say in this building
 
mr5
9:26 AM
no CR in a building? what kind of building is that
 
IT used to be a monastery, hallways were refurbished into offices
There's a problem with the toilet piping so windows are always open
 
mr5
That's interesting. Never thought about monastery being converted into offices
 
it's daaaaamn cold, so I put my coat on
 
@mr5 I never heard of comfort rooms
 
mr5
@AndreasDuering what? which planet you guys on?
 
9:28 AM
and the heat from the coat feels like bed sheet and make me even more sleepy
 
@mr5 Germany :p
 
This is Spain
 
mr5
Where do you go when nature calls then?
 
to the bathroom
 
pee with a breeze of frozen air behind me
 
9:30 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez Re-hydrate your ryrs
eyes*
 
How do I re-hydrate my eyes
 
mr5
@AndreasDuering we call it CR
 
they aren't dry btw
 
Eyes drop.
 
mr5
CR/Bathroom
 
9:31 AM
I don't have eye drops
 
Pharmacy have.
 
but it's not exactly comfortable to try to nap sitting on a toilet seat (I tried)
Especially not sitting with the back to the flush key (?)
 
@AndreasDuering oh the drunken nights...
 
Can anyone help me to build proper project strucre ?

I am building a wrapper application. which contains alot of enums and structures.
 
-Foundation
-Architecture
-Behavior
 
mr5
9:33 AM
@AndreasDuering have you tried sitting back facing?
 
@mr5 there's a wall on the other side I can lean on, it kinda works
Also, the "C# 6 cookbook" has lots of pages, and is also kinda expensive
 
morning
 
10:34 AM
@AndreasDuering God damn I enabled filter keys by accident and had to spend a few minutes to make sure there were no other accesibility options enabled.
Nice trap Microsoft.
 
wash them out with salt after that you ll know what dry eyes realy are
na j/k
 
My eyes won't suffer from that, they are the king kobra of saltiness every time I play online competitive games and meet the ordinary snowflake who believes they are entitled to suck at team videogames in ranked matches.
 
how do I nicely do a test for a thrown exception and checking some of its properties?
I want my test to throw a HttpException and check the status code and content
 
oh that kind of saltiness
I see
 
(using XUnit)
 
10:38 AM
@Wietlol I'm not sure what you mean, but I understand what you want is just a unit test that instances an exception using all possible constructors and then enumerates its contents?
 
try
{
	await client.SendMessage(message);
	Assert.Fail();
}
catch (SomeException ex)
{
	Assert.Equal(HttpStatusCode.NotFound, ex.StatusCode);
	Assert.Equal("channel_not_found", ex.Reason);
}
 
Your unit test should either test if your code throws an exception, or the exception itself, not both.
 
I want my test to fail if the exception is a 500 or 403 or 401
I want my test to fail if the exception is a 404 but the reason is a missing service (url parameter)
I only want it to pass if the error is 404 : "channel_not_found"
 
Im just reading a manual of server motherboard
 
Oh I see what you mean, let me check the docs for a sec.
 
10:43 AM
"The Termal Interface Material is toxic and inedible. DO NOT eat it."
 
Assert.Throws<HttpException>(() => client.SendMessage(message));
 
yes, but then I dont have the check for the status code or reason
 
And then in a separate test you can mock a broken function and Assert.Equal(HttpStatusCode.NotFound, ex.StatusCode);
But that's a separate unit test
 
except that... that would be useless
 
I mean a unit test should have one and only one interest
Otherwise you don't need a unit test
Next day you need to check if the error code is 1234 instead of 404 and you have to copy-paste the whole try-catch again, where some code may vary and you have to manually change all the others
 
10:47 AM
that'd be like writing
var exception = new SomeException(HttpStatusCode.NotFound, "channel_not_found");

Assert.Equal(HttpStatusCode.NotFound, exception.Code);
Assert.Equal("channel_not_found", exception.Reason);
 
If you want to see the results of an HttpException when you send a particular message you should write a small test app that returns values
I mean that's not the idea of a unit test, a unit test tells you if your assertions are correct for a particular functionality, i.e. when you know the results beforehand and you have to check if your code actually works.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez if the error code needs to be 1234, then that would use a different input
I want my test to fail if I get the wrong exception status code
> Assert.Throws<HttpException>(() => client.SendMessage(message));
is not a sufficient check
 
Then you have to assume your exception is raised at that point.
 
since it would succeed when it gives a 500
 
You want to know if the error code is the one you expect, correct?
 
10:50 AM
yes
 
It doesn't make sense to check that in a unit test if you can't ascertain that an exception is thrown.
 
that is why the test should also fail when the exception is not thrown
which gives me the assertion that it gets thrown
 
I guess try-catch doesn't work for that, you already tried.
 
it works
but it is silly
 
@Wietlol Assert.Throws<> also returns the exception object.
 
10:54 AM
LMAO that's unexpected.
 
var exception = Assert.Throws<HttpException>(() => client.SendMessage(message));
Assert.Equals(HttpStatusCodes.401Unauthorized, exception.StatuCode)
 
!!Did you miss me ?
 
@Hans1984 Not a chance
 
It is unexpected. I would have expected it to take a second parameter, an Action<TException>, where you could assert specific values of the exception. Similar to how Assert.Collection works.
 
I thought so
 
10:55 AM
@CapricaSix tear in eye, waves arms furiously
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan ah, that works
private static async Task AssertThrowsAsync<E>(Func<Task> task, Action<E> validation)
	where E : Exception
{
	try
	{
		await task.Invoke();
	}
	catch (E ex)
	{
		validation.Invoke(ex);
	}
}
this is sort of what I expected
(with an Assert.Fail after the task invoke)
but for testing code, I prefer framework functions as much as possible, because they are tailored to be very descriptive about what assumption was made and why it wasnt correct
 
Action act = () => subject.Foo(null);

act.Should().Throw<ArgumentNullException>()
 .And.ParamName.Should().Be("message");
 
caprica doesnt give a sh.t about human feelings
 
use FluentAssertions
 
im fine with assert equal
 
11:04 AM
I don't like Assert.Equals, because the parameter order is so easily flipped
than the fail case don't have a meaningful message
Func<Task> act = async () => { await asyncObject.ThrowAsync<ArgumentException>(); };
await act.Should().ThrowAsync<InvalidOperationException>();
await act.Should().NotThrowAsync();
testing async funcs is much more fun
 
true, the order of the parameters is weird imo
 
Yeah. I always start by writing the actual value, then the expected value, then I flip them.
 
You can always try U+202E
Which by the way doesn't work for me
I can't say I have a preference when it comes to unit tests, I've never seen or built any tests for the companies I've worked at, all of them are oblivious to what that means, and the few I've done for myself were pretty straightforward calculations I knew ahead of time, such as an MD5 encoder
 
I always push my companies to put effort in testing. This is the 2nd company that there is no unit tests at all except mine
 
I personally have no idea why people don't build tests.
I heard from a fellow project manager than on most cases the testing isn't included in the contract. Clients don't want to pay for testing hours because they all understand that applications will be fully operational on day 1
so devs are supposed to deliver top quality content like ninja gods, type as fast as hackers in american movies, when they're done typing press Enter and run the code to do all the stuff it can do at once.
 
11:25 AM
^ so sad.
customer doesn't pay for tests. And mostly none of the code will be changed anyway. So go and hack. Mustn't refactor.
at least I left the company where the refactor was prohibited
 
@ntohl prohibit refactoring? like, completely (once written, never changed)?
 
@AndreasDuering most of the cases you had to hack some buttons on a form. And refactoring the form was not allowed. Only in sepcial cases, where the ROI would be ok.
basically if you wanted to change something it needed a bug reported to it
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Because they don't understand the benefits. "We have QA to see if the code works" - but understanding that unit tests aren't about verifying your code now is a slippery concept.
I worked at a place that refused to spend time on unit tests. "We're a dynamic, quickly changing product, we can't afford to write unit tests". Couldn't convince them an often-changing codebase is exactly where you get a lot of benefit from unit tests.
 
Right! The life cycle of a product ends the day RC1 has been deployed for FAT
 
11:40 AM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan that company can't afford their management.
 
Did they go bankrupt?
A dynamic product that changes quickly doesn't sound like something which will succeed for a long time
 
@HéctorÁlvarez One word. Playdoh
2
 
I could understand ever-evolving though
@Neil Oh you sneaky cate
!!meow
 
I'm glad I don't have to name my files 8 char long
 
11:43 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez It's a startup, at the time a bit past the "we don't know what our product is", but still at the "we're willing to pivot to whatever the customers demand"
 
Oh right, it must be hell to work there
 
@ntohl Yeah, no way you can have a PrivacyEnhancerDecorator with that ;)
 
Yeah, it was a bit hectic.
 
@AndreasDuering just try to name your things in a SAP environment...
 
I'm getting used to that bullshit
I think about education center master data and the name AOMEDCNT comes out automatically
I'd still stab whomever decided this had to be it, but whatever
 
11:48 AM
btw I meant that windows is constantly changing, and didn't go bankrupt last time I checked.
 
@ntohl Windows has a much better defined process for specing, designing, developing and testing features. Oh, and it has tests, too.
 
That's only because it has massive cash reserves from WinXP and Win7
 
@CapricaSix this is interesting
the image behind it is random for each request
would we all see a different image?
 
yes
 
I got a sleepy cat stretching
 
11:50 AM
I had a cat crawling up someone's sleeve
but now I will never see it again
:(
 
I got an ∞ number of cats
 
Regarding Windows, I only use it because I'm forced to. I would run that trash on my computer if I didn't need it for the latest graphics APIs and whatever stuff needed by most games and applications.
 
> A dynamic product that changes quickly doesn't sound like something which will succeed for a long time

I think Windows, VS, Ubuntu, hoard of things proof the opposite
 
dynamic * var
^ dynamic product?
 
@ntohl Well, define "quickly" here. In that company I would often get to work on Sunday and find out the CTO/founder had worked all weekend, adding new features and changing stuff around.
 
11:53 AM
@Wietlol Depending on your accent you may pronounce that as "Dynamic starver".
 
dynamic product = from num in Products from num2 in Products select num * num2;
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I guess Rockstar isn't a startup? Because they like to crunch their numbers, their employee shifts, and also their spines probably.
 
Game dev companies have their own (usually terrible) standard and conditions.
 
I don't think you can call Rockstar a startup, at least not anymore
 
When someone talks about flogging employees crunch practices Rockstar comes to my mind naturally. Even if they stopped doing it I'd still be biased towards thinking that for the rest of my life.
I suddenly feel the urge to drink strawberry juice
Thought you guys would be greatly interested in this concern immediately.
 
12:11 PM
I was, I was. Glad to know.
Also, I hate strawberry-flavored things (other than actual strawberries)
 
there was a meme or vid about two guys talking.
- What are you afraid of?
- When sometimes you want to continue the conversation, but there is an awkward silence, and nothing comes to your mind.
...
- I'm afraid of clowns.
- YEAH. YEAH... F*ck clowns.

^ my first thought after reading about strawberry...
 
12:47 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Strawberry-flavored industrial products don't taste like strawberry, I meant actually strawberries juiced on a cold press, perhaps with milk, perhaps not, 100% sure I'm putting a little sugar in it though.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan the worst thing in humanity is the cereal with pieces of dried strawberries inside of it
why would anyone buy this, torture themselves
 
Curiosity?
 
@misha130 I don't think I've had any of those in a couple of decades. My taste in cereal leans towards the spartan and austere.
 
same but they tricked me with their packaging twice
 
Hah, marketing-level diversion tactics.
I'm not a cereal man, but I choose chocolate crispies when the time comes.
And no chocapic, that shit hurts my mouth
They didn't think about us fellows who eat cereal raw from the box, no milky bed.
 
12:55 PM
I don't think we get that one here. At least not with that name.
Me, I like branflakes. Yes, the ones that look like cardboard.
 
They are round-shaped, have cutting edges, and taste great.
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I thought you said brain flakes
do you guys recognize that brand? What's the name in your country?
Anyway, time to grind some strawberries
'till tomorrow
 
@HéctorÁlvarez nestel..
 
1:11 PM
i dont think cereal is like medicine where they just rebrand the names in each countries
 
(Nest(Nest(Nest(Nest))))ed
 
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
 
We have all sorts of Nestle cereals here, but I don't think we get that one.
@misha130 I think it is. Like candy - you have "Lion" candy bars in Israel, but they're "Tiger" in some places. "Twix" used to be called "Raiders" in Israel, and I've seen it under than name elsewhere.
 
1:32 PM
there are a lot of branding blunders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_blunder
renaming stuff seems quite common
 
@Wietlol It's unbalanced
and now I'm going to be cranky all day
 
and I'll never forget carlist.my/news/…
 
@AndreasDuering Argh!
 
@Default is it worse than Nova?
 
1:38 PM
that caption though
 
@MikeTheLiar no idea
 
tl;dr - the Chevy Nova didn't sell well in Spain, because "no va" is Spanish for "doesn't go"
I think Nova is worse though because IIRC they didn't catch it until well after they started trying to sell the cars in Europe.
 
 
@MikeTheLiar it's actually mentioned in the wikipedia article: An urban legend holds that the Chevrolet Nova automobile sold poorly in Latin America, as "no va" means "doesn't go" in Spanish. In truth, the car sold well.[25] The same has been said of the Vauxhall Nova, which had to be sold as an Opel Corsa in Spain. This too is a myth, as the car was built in Spain and known there as a Corsa from the outset.
 
Well I done been told.
nothing even happens
 
1:47 PM
hehe, fun little trinket. I checked the source for that [25] which mentions: Assuming that Spanish speakers would naturally see the word “nova” as equivalent to the phrase “no va” and think “Hey, this car doesn’t go!” is akin to assuming that English speakers would spurn a dinette set sold under the name Notable because nobody wants a dinette set that doesn’t include a table.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez how do you say "nova" - as in the astronomical phenomena of an exploding star - in Spanish?
"estrella nueva" according to Google translate which doesn't sound right to me.
That just means "new star" and I don't think that's what a nova is. I could very well be wrong about that, I frequently am.
 
> "nova", 1877, from Latin nova, fem. singular adjective of novus "new".
> used with stella "star" (a feminine noun in Latin) to describe a new star not previously known.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez we have it
 
MW just says "a star showing a sudden large increase in brightness and then slowly returning to its original state over a few months."
But that's a dictionary and not a scientific source
 
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