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1:01 PM
@AlRey a monarchist?
you brought the illegal memes mate
 
wow I was expecting to get "racist" as the answer, but your answer was way more accurate and legit
 
!~shiba
 
"we need to talk. you need to stop with animal pics"
thats what it says
so now it actually shows the glasses
on my avatar
lolol
happy new year guys !
2020!
 
1:19 PM
Cesar Manara on December 09, 2019

Around the globe, we look forward to celebrating traditions that are unique to us, our families, and our communities. The season gives us a chance to reflect, makes us smile, and helps bring us all together. 

This year is a special one for the Winter Bash tradition. A hectic end of the year (that included a company-wide Meetup and a ramped-up focus on delivering improvements across other parts of our Q&A experience) means this year’s Winter Bash theme is the same as last year’s. But don’t despair, last year’s theme was awesome! …

 
@Feeds SHHH!
 
@Feeds how fitting
I was just talking about the hats
 
Because you've already got one?
 
yes
it fits my face perfectly
jesus
brain malfunction
 
I got those damn 2020 glasses lol
 
1:28 PM
yes
so do I
put them on
join the club!
 
Oh, god, not the hats again.
 
HATS!
CATS!
SQUIRRELS!
\o/
 
people in a server were arguing that bigotry is okay if there's reason for it
so I'm like
>make an argument saying stereotypes are bad
>gets one-upped by people who think bigotry with "actual reason" makes it okay
>people unironically refer to group as cavemen
someone asks "what are you" and I say "a squirrel"
 
gud
thats all they need to know
 
well that reason that "makes it okay" is unfortunately subjective
 
1:32 PM
yeah which sucks
 
yep
I'm curious, how would you feel about killing? always bad or only bad outside of wartime?
 
but I can tell you that just cause I'm bi doesn't mean I'm some sex-obsessed freak; quite the opposite, actually
 
@AlRey all bout lies..
 
it's always bad; war is hell, after all
 
it's a position called moral relativism when you say something is bad under specific circumstances like say world position or time
 
1:34 PM
I can still say that death during war is necessary, but still bad
 
lol
 
and it's incidentally flat out wrong
 
like a colonoscopy
 
sex-obsessed freak
:D
laughter turns into coughing
anyway
wow
its raining cats and squirrels right now
 
I feel ya there... temperature shot way up
and it's gonna take a nosedive tomorrow
 
2:27 PM
 
lol
 
@CopperKettle "lol" dies
 
@CopperKettle That is good. :-D
 
user10864482
2:47 PM
good moar ning
 
user10864482
is there a way to 'speak' to a activex control from browser console?
 
user10864482
I know. I'm working at a museum
 
user10864482
let's pretent its 1999
 
how many security options are turned off
 
2:59 PM
I sure hope the clocks will continue working when the next millennium rolls in.
 
user10864482
@misha130 it's a locked down station; I have no control over any settings; can't see them, cant modify them neither . I can't use Chrome neither; I'm stuck with ie11
 
@misha130 Yes.
 
lmao the Chromium Edge has an "IE mode" that can use ActiveX
I have a feeling Chromium Edge will finally knock IE off the default apps' list
 
@AlRey I'd be happy with that but I'm sure it won't happen any time soon.
 
user10864482
and the folder "C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files" is empty
 
3:05 PM
@human then no
 
damn..at least I get Edge
 
user10864482
@misha130 it's a sad monday
 
well i dont want to bring you down even further but everyday is a sad monday when doing activex
 
even if it is wednesday?
 
especially
 
3:09 PM
it's Wednesday...or as I like to call it
Thursday
 
user10864482
@AlRey you meant thurdday
 
I had a friend who always quoted that lame-ass hump day Geico commercial whenever Wednesday rolled around
imagine thinking insurance commercials are funny
…never mind
 
@AlRey Not likely.
IE is still included in Windows not because it is the default browser (it is not, Edge is) but because it is so deeply integrated into Windows' code that it was impossible to separate cleanly before the release of Windows 10.
 
damn malignant tumors
 
Mostly because explorer.exe uses iexplore.exe's rendering engine behind the scenes, to render the directories view
@AlRey Malignant? This was a fully conscious and deliberated decision.
Ye Olde Microsoft wanted IE to be deeply integrated into Windows.
 
3:19 PM
oh yeah...I remember when IE looked exactly like Windows explorer with HTML
actually I can still kinda see it
 
@CaptainObvious Not with that attitude!
 
only real difference is the back/forward buttons are shaped different
 
So windows explorer is basically "hey lets just write these folder structures in html and lets use the IE's engine to render it"?
 
MADARA!
 
@Squirrelkiller More or less
@Wietlol HASHIRAMA!
 
3:20 PM
guess that explains why throwing a Windows directory in IE or any other browser redirects to Windows Explorer
 
gesundheit
 
@AlRey Exactly.
 
I remember someone once tried to share a pic and was like "guys check out my picture!!" and the link was C:/Users/Chelsea/Pictures/IMG48928_389.jpg
someone commented "fail??" and she responded "no, you just click it and it works"
 
I think somebody even tried that in here once
It's a very faint memory
 
sure did
 
3:22 PM
sounds like something I would've done when I was 11...when I thought I was tech-savvy
 
(somebody, not be obviously)
 
file:/// links work in all browsers mind you
 
when somebody asked me what kidn of computer I had, I'd be like "It's Windows XP"
 
But none of them actually render the damn directory view when you enter the path to a directory.
 
file:/// is a fine url prefix
 
3:24 PM
@Wietlol No, it's a file url prefix, can't you read?
 
its a fine file url
this is fine
 
 
I've learned the command fine
 
surprised we didn't do that before
 
@CaptainSquirrel teach Jack on-box plox
 
3:25 PM
Jack, say this is fine
 
I don't understand mate
 
Jack, echo this is fine
 
Jack, learn tonguetwister Jack Black
Black Jack Black
Black Jack Black playing BlackJack
Black Jack Black playing a Black Jack while playing BlackJack with Jack Black
Black Jack Black eating Cracker Jack playing a black jack while playing BlackJack with Jack Black who is threatening Black Jack Black with a Black Jack
 
Jack, black
 
3:26 PM
 
ok, that made me smile
 
Jackson Blackson
How many Jacks would a Black Jack jack if a Black Jack could Jack Black?
 
@AlRey the answer is probably NSFW
 
not safe for whitefolk?
 
mr5
4:01 PM
not safe for wietlol
2
 
mr5
4:28 PM
this one's programmed well
 
that is some serious AI
 
oh shit my story's turning real lul
I believe that would be classified as an enracine
wait nah that would be a bete
(I only recently came up with these terms mrhrhfhf)
 
 
2 hours later…
6:15 PM
 
I just realized Edge is using the same browser media player that Internet Explorer 10 did on Windows Phone
 
6:44 PM
Isn't Edge just IE reskinned, or is it using a different rendering engine?
IIRC IE9+ is actually more standards compliant than either FF or Chrome, but no one wants to hear that.
 
Edge is definitely a different engine
I would certainly think so if it's running on UWP
 
IE uses Trident, Edge was rebuilt to use Chromium but I don't know what it used before that
 
I'm just now hearing about this "Internet Tidal Wave" letter
 
> EdgeHTML is a proprietary layout engine developed for Edge. It is a fork of Trident that has removed all legacy code of older versions of Internet Explorer and rewritten the majority of its source code to support web standards and interoperability with other modern browsers
ouch
 
user10864482
I'm afraid some people (majority) fail to see that if 80% of the web runs under the same engine it make the world more fragile
 
user10864482
6:57 PM
just like monoculture
 
You'll always have Lynx
 
yeah that's my only concern with Edge going to Chromium
it's basically MS admitting they can't make a decent HTML engine to save their lives, so they just take one from somebody else
 
user10864482
@AlRey it would have been nice of them to go to firefox instead
 
Mozilla really deserves more credit for what they've done to the web enterprise(?) cause so much under-the-hood stuff is their work
 
user10864482
Google won the browser race
https://gs.statcounter.com/
 
7:05 PM
and the only other browser that has seen growth in the past 10 years
is Safari xD
unless you count Samsung browser, which I don't
 
Stack Overflow in Lynx
 
MUDs when
 
I haven't done much programming today...most of my work has involved writing guides for other devs
strange thing, me doing that
I have to explain how Base64 works
 
7:20 PM
how does it work
 
it's an encoder that allows an image to be converted into a super long string and vice versa
though really having base in the name implies it to be a method of counting -- which it is, but it's not primarily used for that afaik
 
well i expected an algorithmic explanation
 
nah sorry; I don't know that and nobody I works with needs to know :P
 
like why does it have so many === in the end or its exactly always a division of 64
 
…but now I wanna know
 
7:23 PM
HMM
 
I thought that was for padding
aaaand it turns out that's exactly what it's for
252
A: Why does a base64 encoded string have an = sign at the end

Andrew HareIt serves as padding. A more complete answer is that a base64 encoded string doesn't always end with a =, it will only end with one or two = if they are required to pad the string out to the proper length.

 
@AlRey That is truly not what it does.
 
2- As a short answer : The 65th character ("=" sign) is used only as a complement in the final process of encoding a message.
 
so not the same reason why so many zeroes exist when you want to count to 5 in binary? like so: 0x00000101
 
bunch of answers in the thread
 
7:27 PM
@RoelvanUden yea I know that's not entirely what it does, but that's what it's mainly used for
and that's all my associates care about
it's a hot topic!
 
7:42 PM
oh dear....the wiki article has "multiple issues"
In computer science, Base64 is a group of binary-to-text encoding schemes that represent binary data in an ASCII string format by translating it into a radix-64 representation. The term Base64 originates from a specific MIME content transfer encoding. Each Base64 digit represents exactly 6 bits of data. Three 8-bit bytes (i.e., a total of 24 bits) can therefore be represented by four 6-bit Base64 digits. Common to all binary-to-text encoding schemes, Base64 is designed to carry data stored in binary formats across channels that only reliably support text content. Base64 is particularly prevalent...
 
8:01 PM
I pasted a b64 image encoding to MS Word and now Word is being super slow
 
8:14 PM
hi, how can i make tests wait on each other before executing in visual studio?
 
I think they do?
Except for multiple projects, those will run in parallel
I think
 
cause when i run test alone it works, but when running all it doesnt
i just cant find the problem
 
@tahtoh I've seen this before actually
In my case it was because we were testing how the code handled a non existent file name
 
No proer setup/teardown or static stuff?
 
Two different tests tried to open "Some file that doesn't exist.xslx" and the second one would fail because it would throw some unexpected exception, I don't remember what exactly
Using two different non-existent files names solved the problem
 
8:24 PM
ok
let me check more
thanks
gonna keep you updated on if its the problem
well
for some reason its related to this //var viewer = new ReportViewer();
//viewer.LocalReport.ReportEmbeddedResource
new ReportViewer() is the cause and i dont know why
 
What specifically is ReportViewer?
 
Please dont say crystal reprots. please dont say crystal reports.
 
Cursory googling suggest it's a Win/WebForms component
 
Thank gates
 
8:44 PM
yes
its crystal reports @Squirrelkiller
lol
 
F
Jack, F
 
I don't understand mate
 
Jack, commands
 
I know the following commands: commands, learn, tell, echo, save, info, forget, ban, unban, c#, kieran, panini, lenny, shrug, KieranSpelling, funfriday, kieran2, Treason, Treason2, treason3, WhyIsCapGone, nyan, slänt, trap, mcve, whoDaBest?, nutz, java, Wietlol, elephant, tumbleweed, wietlol2, >freerey, WhyIsHansBanned, Hans, italwaysworks, wietbot, hayzoos, haha, black, meow, TheRumIsGone, status, why, fine
 
fuck
@MikeTheLiar Liar!
 
8:51 PM
24 messages moved to Sandbox
 
:(
 
Finally.
 
:(
 
why'd you do that?
 
Because I should have been doing it in the sandbox in the first place. There was some collateral damage.
Jack, tell AlRey shrug
 
8:55 PM
@AlRey ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@tahtoh so what resources does ReportViewer use? Or where can we find the documenation?
 
posted on December 09, 2019 by Phil Haack

Quick! How many ways are there with .NET Core to encode parts of a URL? Here’s a list I came up with.

 
9:15 PM
so i found it was the render method of the viewer viewer.LocalReport.Render that fails
 
 
1 hour later…
10:44 PM
I've been having some trouble with LINQ. Anyhow up for talking about it?
 
The key is believing in yourself.
 
Here's what's going on.
I have an ADO.net DataTable and I have a NewtonSoft JSON object that contain some data. I need to verify that they contain the same data.

I need to compare them row by row to see that they contain the same data, and needless to say, I need the rows in the same order.
I tried using the LINQ OrderBy method to order them by the result of converting a GUID field to a string, but I don't get them in the same order, even though I have verified that both collections have the same IDs.
My code to order them looks like this:

var rows = dataSet.Tables[0]
.Select()
.OrderBy(row => Convert.ToString(row["X"]))
.ToArray();
var jTokens = jTreatmentNeeds
.OrderBy(jToken => jToken["X"].Value<string>())
.ToArray();
One would think that since I verified that the X field contains the same Guids, I should get the records in the same order, by I don't.
I'm feeling rather stumped.
All I want is to order the two collections the same way and compare them, row-by-row, field-by-field, to verify that they contain the same data.
 
Would it help if you left off that empty .Select call from the first one?
Or if you inspect what happens if you do
dataSet.Tables[0]
.Select(row => Convert.ToString(row["X"]))
.ToArray();
and
jTreatmentNeeds
.Select(jToken => jToken["X"].Value<string>())
.ToArray();

and make sure that the results are what you expect
make sure you're comparing apples to apples, so to speak
the string sort won't work if, say, one guid has capital letters and the other doesn't
 
The empty select converts the RowCollection to an IEnumerable.
So it is necessary to use LINQ methods on the rows.
 
Fair enough.
 
10:53 PM
Interestingly, I had something similar to this in another section of my code that appeared to work, but this one doesn't.
 
You might consider using Guid.Parse to make sure you're A. actually working with guids and B. that they get sorted correctly
 
That other one only had two rows, so there's 50/50 chance it could have been right even at random.
They're not getting sorted correctly.
I check that the two collections both contain GUIDs after they are sorted.
They contain the same guids, but in the wrong order.
In this case, there are three of them, and they are in the opposite order.
 
sure, but are the same guids the same strings?
like, one might be 08275fbf-bf48-4daa-acc1-f9a0f0933fbc and one might be 08275FbF-bf48-4daa-acc1-f9a0f0933fbc
 
Well, strings are reference variables, but they contain the same letters and numbers, and the casing and hyphens are the same.
Okay, I'm being a total idiot here.
I've figured it out.
 
Looking at the wrong variable or something?
 
10:57 PM
I sorted the collections and assigned the new, resulting array to a variable, and then when I performed the comparison, I used the variable that referred to the unsorted collection.
How's that for me being scatter-brained?
 
Ah, happens to everyone.
 
And it took me about 2 hours to figure out :'-(
Not my proudest day.
But thanks
:+1:
 
Happy to help!
 
This code is for an integration test, and it works now!
Hey, good news!
The good news is that you fixed it, Daniel.
The bad news is that you broke it in a silly way!
 
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