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1:01 PM
dont some theories imply that an empty universe came before the big bang
 
user10864482
it's a fancy theory that come down to; god didn't event universe, big bang did
 
so like its a cycle of big boom -> empty -> big boom
 
there must be something before the big bang, as singularity was explained: everything is zero,but not zero, its infinitely close to zero
all of that is unexplainable by our human law of physics
so, the event before the events? is that still called event (while event still under human law of physics?)
 
> Human law of physics sucks!
- random bee
 
I mean if you look at quantom physics its not exactly "human law" as we understand it
 
1:05 PM
no time, no space, no event = no human law of physics
 
@nyconing that could be like saying that there must be a "faster than the speed of light"
 
user10864482
I hate when google index someone telling someone else to google the question before asking it
 
its not exactly consequential
 
we don't have the proper perspective, but in the right context, it could be that it wouldn't make sense to refer to time as something existing before the big bang
 
user10864482
1:06 PM
"Go to ParentTry using a search engine to find the answer before asking the question, honest it is quicker. Here is the MSDN [^]result thrown up by google"
 
user10864482
fuck them
 
@Neil how do we make a timeline then?
we need one for xkcd
 
wait whats wrong with this theory of the cycle? it explains it pretty well
once you hit 0 you get big bang and then everything appears and it strives to 0
I mean everything expands
 
@Wietlol you start with a dot and point it in one direction
 
@misha130 everything expands and then an unsigned integer overflow happens so it comes back to 0?
 
1:08 PM
yes pretty much
 
I see...
 
@misha130 nothing is wrong with that theory. It could be also this the case
 
imagine our universe physics has a documentation, our human law of physics is only a small part of them
 
I knew they shouldnt have written the universe in C
 
user10864482
shiet. If I want to get cookies from cookiesCOntainer do I really have to use reflection to get its value??
 
1:08 PM
I suppose one theory is as good as any
 
they need to use Ruby with dynamically sized integers
 
@Wietlol Segmentation fault at 0x00000000
 
(it was Ruby who had that on the basic integral types, right?)
 
@Neil every second discovery is that there is something faster than the speed of light nowaday
 
really?
 
1:10 PM
@ntohl nothing has been proven
 
is quantom entaglement faster than light?
 
the only thing that seems to work "faster than the speed of light" is quantum entanglement
 
ehhh
 
user10864482
maybe elon is right; maybe we are in a simulation
 
its not exactly movement
 
1:11 PM
I dont get the fuss about going faster than the speed of light...
 
but that seems to suggest something else entirely.. that they're linked somehow, not that one affects the other faster than light
 
I just now remembered there's a java emoji
 
well maybe ftl is not something that can be properly observed
 
@ntohl if this were true, you'd see more than a 2 page article from sciencealert.com
it would be major news
I think it's speculation
the model could also just be wrong
 
1:14 PM
also, who invented the idea that you would go back in time if you go faster than the speed of light?
 
@CaptainSquirrel I got me a "festive baguette"
And I got you a bag of air
 
well how do you calculate speed Wietlol?
of an object in a vector
 
difference in motion between one object and another
 
how do you calculate the mass of said object
 
I just spend 15 minutes trying to understand why my controller routing was broken and I was getting 404 errors, until I remembered that my controller also returns 404 if the data requested isn't found. And it isn't. *facepalm*.
 
1:15 PM
preferably, one object would be stationary... but since earth moves... it is pretty hard to make that happen here on earth
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Nobody expects the 404 situation!
 
not sure how to calculate mass of an object actually
we use earth's gravity for most calculations there
 
 
I actually forgot too and also got lost in it
let me just be stupid for a sec
light is the lowest possible mass thus it travels the fastest possible
 
@Wietlol Just calculate weight and factor it to gravity?
 
1:17 PM
lets be stupid together and move to the starboard
 
if you arrive at your destination faster than the speed of light, then you've simply gotten there faster
 
^
 
but probably this involves a lot of relativity stuff that I don't get
 
oh yea
its like I forgot all basic physics, well this is fun
 
and if you get there faster than the light, you could still catch the light which emitted when you were back where you came from
so, you could see your past self
doesnt mean it is still there
 
1:19 PM
You'd see yourself AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE YOU WERE IN 2 PLACES AT ONCE
I did not mean to caps that, I@m typing with 1 hand
 
also, you needed to move in a curve... or you would destroy the light in your path, which had your image
 
yep. in the right position, you would see a person who teleported instantaneously in two places at once
it would also happen so fast, you couldn't tell anyway
 
wait how can you see
 
from another position, that person would vanish for a moment
 
if you are faster than light
since vision is reflection of light
 
1:20 PM
You probably woudn't be able to see very well while travelling
 
your vehicle is faster or are you faster?
 
while you travel above the speed of light, you can only look forward,
if you look backwards, you would see... the lack of light... darkness
 
so is the light inside your vehicle traveling at the speed of light faster than light?
 
Well you're both going at the same speed
It would be going faster
 
user10864482
every time I use reflection i feel dirty
 
1:21 PM
well you wouldn't really move faster than the speed of light, because to do so you'd theoretically be energy
if anything you teleport instantaneously
 
@human take a shower
 
but you can continue travel inside of a tube
 
@neil limitations like that are bering ignored
 
Hmmm. the Spider-Verse sequel is only scheduled for 2022. We'll have to see if the MCU Phase 4 is any good until then.
 
user10864482
@Wietlol lol
 
1:22 PM
@CaptainObvious ok, then while you're shifting between two places moving faster than the speed of light, you have to dodge the incoming laser beams and photon torpedos
 
look at brave avner, trying to move the conversation to something else
 
Well you're doing that now anyway
 
afaic, conversation moved
 
what conversation?
 
I dunno.. what were you saying?
 
1:24 PM
something about spiderman iirc
 
lets just stick to programming since physics isn't our forte
 
but I forgot what... I guess I got distracted
 
clearly it isnt
 
I mean we can bmake loads of guesses, but when V > c conventional physics is expected to fall apart
 
if (V > c)
C# doesnt have a when operation
 
1:25 PM
I mean we can't even decide if light is a wave or a particle
 
would be cool tho
 
oh and wiet you asked about deconstructors earlier and its a new feature in C# ~Ctor
like C++
cause finalizers are never mind
 
when(V > c) would put change listeners on those variables/values, causing the code block to execute as soon as the condition is true
@misha130 it was a rhetorical question tho
you are not supposed to answer
 
oh
complicated
 
@Wietlol That sounds like something extension methods would solve
 
1:27 PM
@Wietlol I wrote something similar a while back, using Rx.NET and handling objects with INotifyPropertyChanged.
 
or something
 
but did you do it based on the variable or based on the value?
both have their use cases
I suppose I would build this in Wietlang as value based
then, I can treat the variables as values to have that use case covered
 
@Wietlol By value.
 
so, it wouldnt work on ints? (or any immutable value)
you would need some wrapping object for it
 
Something like await myObj.WaitForValue(() => myObj.Status, Status.Running);
Would return a task that completes when myObj.Status is equal to Running.
 
1:33 PM
Anyone worked with R# cli tools? How od I make it run my unit tests?
 
you could've just use from o in myObj where o.Status == Status.Running select o
 
ah, it is variable based
its a bit different tho, @misha130
 
I meant myObj is an observable
never mind
 
aand I just realized the UK election is today
 
the when operation would basically be an event, that would be executed as soon as the condition is true
 
1:38 PM
@misha130 It isn't - it's any object implementing INotifyPropertyChanged.
 
@AlRey Oh shit, let's hope they get rid of that dummy
 
yeah I hate to throw my bias out there, but I'm thinking about how insane it'd be if Corbyn actually won
 
@Wietlol It's the same. myObj.When(() => myObj.Status, Status.Running).ContinueWith(t => { /*this executes when the value changes*/; }
 
1:56 PM
@Squirrelkiller you have about as much luck of that as we have of getting Trump out of office before the election in 2020
 
@AlRey soc dems are actually 60% up they are going to win woohoo~
xdddddddd
 
i have an actionlink which is of class btn btn-default when i click it it stays looking pressed until something else is clicked on the page, is there a way to get it out of the pressed state?
 
i got the cameras up and running and recording
yaaay
\o/
i deserve a shiba for that
!~shiba
 
:)
that was a busy day
 
2:16 PM
@CaptainObvious Well i went to costco and got some cheese pizza and a mango smoothie
I got you nothing
 
back from lunch
 
user10864482
i need to know how to use a given method for a activex object. I have no documentation but I do have access to IE11 dev tools
 
why are peaky blinder episodes so fkin long
 
user10864482
is there a way?
 
@Hans1984 niceee
Good thing Nyc pointed out the Pillars of Eternity thing.
 
user10864482
2:40 PM
Hello, it's me, from 1999. I have some undocumented activex control and I need to know how to consume a given method. Any idea?
 
@human What exactly do you need - to know how to use the HTML DOM to reach taht object and call methods, or a way to find out what methods this ACtiveX exposes?
 
user10864482
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan in ie dev tools (f12 ) I can see the object loaded in dom. From there I can list its method however it doesn't say what I should put as parameter. I tried a bunch of stuff but my guess didn't worked
 
@human Try looking for an told tool called OLEView, or search for an alternative. It's a COM/OLE browser that might be able to give you more information on the methods, like the list of expected parameters.
Is there a chance you have a TLB file (TypeLibrary) for that activex control?
github.com/tyranid/oleviewdotnet seems to be an updated version of OLEView.
 
user10864482
.. I don't know ?!
 
user10864482
thanks for the link; I will investigate that
 
2:45 PM
ActiveX is too old for me. I barely saw those when playing Flash games back in the day, when bike trial web games were the sh*t.
Sends sorry message over RS232
And who keeps starring nonsensical stuff?! Stahp
 
user10864482
didn't received your message.. what was the bit rate ? hehe
 
Anyway, I'm off home for the weekend. Two and a half weeks to go.
 
user10864482
good for you, have fun
 
user10864482
and thx for the tip
 
Good luck. Also, try to find a job where you don't have to maintain ActiveX controls in IE11.
 
2:57 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan enjoy
 
@CaptainObvious i found a gif you'd appreciate
Seeing as you like the hmmmmmmmmmm gifs
 
@CaptainSquirrel It syncs perfectly with hardbass
 
oh my god it does
Do you enjoy that sort of music?
 
I enjoy most sorts of music
 
Hardbass is a big 👎 from me
 
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Ameno ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
 
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@Feeds Shut It!
 
bois....I GOT THE JOB
11
 
@Harry YEET
 
3:08 PM
@Harry which job is this now?
 
junior software dev but just moving company
 
you're moving on up
 
aye
2k payrise
 
I mean, i think the junior part is a bit much
 
3:09 PM
wow, very nice
 
contractual salary review
 
Like there's no need to let people know you are 12 in your job title
 
fuck
you
rodent
 
<3
Well done with your new job, friend
 
thank u fren <3
 
3:10 PM
that's cause to celebrate
 
aye aye
celebrating with a vote for labour
 
@Harry finally something worth starring.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez love u hec
 
#nohomo
 
3:12 PM
#nohomo
 
phew just in time
 
no need to say #nohomo; nobody cares
 
Traditions demand it
no offense ^^
 
I LOVE YOU HECTOR
Jack, lenny
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
3:17 PM
OIC, but... I preferred omegalenny
 
11 messages moved to Trash can
sec
i'll fix
feexed
its now omegalenny
AND it should display the image now
 
Jack, omegalenny
 
jack, omegalenny
 
3:19 PM
Jack, hmm
 
WHAT
SQUIRREL! PUT THIS COMMAND IN!
 
@Harry you have the ability to use learn
mountain dew it yourself
 
i dont know how
 
@Harry Check trash can
or sandbox
 
3:20 PM
@Harry same way you'd teach cap
Just use Jack,
 
pretty straightforward commands
 
ok so hang on
nobody's gonna talk about the fact that Patrick is back?
 
Who's Patrick
 
the bot
the one we had before Jack came along
 
14 secs ago, by Héctor Álvarez
Who's Patrick
 
3:21 PM
at least its not wietbot
 
@Patrick tell th em
 
I guess he's asleep, but if you ping Patrick, you see his icon
there is no way you're being serious
 
Do I really have to cram out the pinned message agaain?
 
okay I've been trying to ask
did the actual Patrick user leave or what?
I've been trying to ask since yesterday, but everyone's acting like the bot never existed in the first place
 
3:24 PM
No idea about the user
Gonna have to ask mr5 about the bot
 
...there's never been a Patrick.
 
What's a patrick?
 
HECTOR I SWEAR TO FUCK
 
I think it's a Rick that gives pats
@AlRey Alright man, don't let anyone get between you and sex.
2
 
10/10 hector
 
3:26 PM
brb meeting
 
 
4:00 PM
And it was deathly silent
Jack, tumbleweed
 
Death will come to all
 
new version of rider supports debugging with docker-compose containers. yay
 
I've never heard of rider, it sounds cool
does it have a wpf designer?
 
4:17 PM
It has a preview tool, I don't know about a full-fledged designer. I tend to write my xaml by hand
 
I write xaml by hand too
 
OK and today ends with a major question: My password expired on the client AD, so they reset it manually aaaaaaaaaaand the server is dead
Why?
How?
Think about it.
 
uhm
that sounds like terrible business practices
 
Ew why would they configure password expiry
 
whenever my password expires at work i just reset it to the same password and it works fine
 
4:26 PM
i mean, good network security for one? @CaptainObvious
 
We don't have expiry because it's retarded
 
Not having expiry is retarded
A case can be made for Certain accounts to not have expiry
 
You make people's passwords expire, they're dumb and forget them and write them down instead
 
Such as service accounts
 
expiry can be required for compliance in certain industries
but i find it's security benefit dubious
 
4:28 PM
Its likely that's why it was enabled at my last place
we were iso 9001 compliant and were going for 27001
 
@JonathonChase @NickP Rider's winforms designer is garbage, and that's "released", I wouldn't expect that the WPF one would work either
 
If I find myself working on a winforms app my whole day is ruined.
 
what's wrong with winforms designer
 
In rider? it's shit
 
has worked fine for well Ever really
ohh
 
4:30 PM
winforms is good if you need something simple
 
or don't feel like getting complex
 
Jay
wut
 
I don't like working in winforms but the VS one is fine. The rider one is terrible though
 
well maybe in the future they'll improve it
 
Doubtful, they only added it in 2019.1
 
4:31 PM
I made a few internal apps for our IT Team with winforms
It did the job
 
Jay
I feel vindicated
 
winforms is fine but wpf gives you a lot of flexibility
the learning curve in wpf is pretty steep though
 
i will admit
the main reason i didn't use uwp or wpf is because i tried using it
got confused
thought fuck this
and just used winforms instead
That combined with the fact that when i tried positioning stuff in the editor and building it
It was in a completely different location
 
especially if you're trying to do mvvm with it
 
5:01 PM
Hello folks!
Look my new fancy hat! =)
 
5:13 PM
is good hat komrade
 
@Jay Vindicators, assemble!
 
user image
2
Ideal job ever!
 
who am I to design the kingdom of heaven
 
5:44 PM
haha lots of responsibility, eh?
 
Jay
Jack, echo I did not choose to use aspx, I work on what they tell me to work on
 
I did not choose to use aspx, I work on what they tell me to work on
 
5:59 PM
I didn't choose the WebForms life, the WebForms life chose me.
 
6:53 PM
Are ya ready lads
 
AYE AYE CAPTAIN
 
Jay
yes
 
7:18 PM
@Pankwood xaxaxaa
I'm littereally grinning al over mi face
 
xD xD xD
 
7:38 PM
Cya gurls and gurlettes
 
7:48 PM
see ya
 
goodbye princess
 
Good night all
Is there any significant field in bitmaps other than the byte[]? I'm trying to convert an SKBitmab to Android Bitmap , by knowing the byte[] content , but the image is broken
 
8:09 PM
Hey I posted a question in the SQL room but it's slow there, anyone wanna chat SQL?
C'mon it's still early in California! : )
 
8:47 PM
i probably can't answer but you're welcome to post it
 
OK. I have a table of Users, a table of StepsCompleted and a table of possible UserSteps. I need a query that results in a set of UserSteps for each User indicating whether each Step exists in the StepsCompleted table.
So if I have 100 users and 10 steps I need a result set of 1000 rows. I can evaluate the null fields to determine whether the step is complete or not.
My first instinct is to left join the Users with the StepsCompleted. That gives me an easy list of UserStepsCompleted with completed steps. But then how to create a row for each User/Step that is not NOT in the UserStepsCompleted join?
I tried a full join and full outer join but did not get the results I expected.
 
9:27 PM
Select *, (SELECT 1 FROM StepsCompleted sc WHERE sc.userId = u.id and sc.step = us.id) from UserSteps us inner join Users on us.UserId = u.id
point is you should start with usersteps that joins to users
I dont frankly understand the connections you have, just made assumptions
 
Yes, I have a left join from Users to StepsCompleted that gives me a list of all the users and their completed steps. Thank you. The next goal is to have a matrix of each possible step (10 rows) and join it with the list of 700 rows of CompltedSteps (hypothetical, if each User had completed 7 steps) to have a final set of 1000 rows with a status for each Step.
Given that there are 100 Users and 10 available Steps.
 
this is what I wrote basically
gives 1 if step was completed and null otherwise
 
Hmmmm....
 

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