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5:06 PM
@SteveG press-grilled sandwiches I hope for your sake
 
user47589
@im1dermike how to include it in what?
 
I think "big fan" should be made into something like Alot
"I'm a big fan of sandwiches" is a highly entertaining mental image
 
a project
add as a reference
 
user47589
add a reference to the assembly.
 
............
try it yourself
 
user47589
5:08 PM
right click the project, select add reference
 
user47589
what problem are you having?
 
user47589
you haven't described any issue, just asked "how"
 
it's not listed, nor is it available via package library tools
 
Did you try browsing the file system for it?
 
user47589
probably requires an install of TFS on that machine
 
5:10 PM
I'm guessing that's a "no"
 
not sure where it would be on the file system
i've added Microsoft.TeamFoundation.VersionControl.Client and Microsoft.TeamFoundation.Client without issue
 
user47589
5
A: Where can I find Microsoft.TeamFoundation.VersionControl.Client.dll in Visual Studio 2015 installation?

jessehouwingThese have been moved into a Nuget package. They're also stored under the "CommonExtensions" folder of your Visual Studio installation, but these are not meant to be referenced anymore, that's what the NuGet package is for. C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\Common7\IDE\Common...

 
so TFS must be installed
 
user47589
that's for client, but server should be similar
 
5:13 PM
@Amy That just installed about 30 libraries, none of which is the one i need
let me try it again
 
@SteveG that's amazing
 
@Amy Any idea what the server version of that would be?
 
user47589
no
 
then the problem remains
 
user47589
5:17 PM
search for Server Object Model Reference
 
user47589
> You can find the assemblies in the server object model in Program Files\Microsoft Team Foundation Server 12 under Tools and Application Tier\Web Services\bin.
 
i have TFS 11 and under Program Files\Microsoft Team Foundation Server 11.0 there is only an Application Tier folder
 
user47589
i guess you don't have the assemblies then
 
unfortunate
 
5:33 PM
moment of truth
lets see if vs2015 works
YAY
never installing update 2 ever again
 
Uncle Visual Studio wants to work for you
 
user47589
its friday
 
user47589
hooray
 
\o/
 
user47589
let there be much rejoicing
 
5:41 PM
hurray
 
I want a Hoo-Ray Gun
 
!!wiki sutton hoo
 
Sutton Hoo, near Woodbridge, East Anglia, is the site of two 6th- and early 7th-century cemeteries. One contained an undisturbed ship burial, including a wealth of Anglo-Saxon artefacts of outstanding art-historical and archaeological significance, most of which are now in the British Museum in London. The site is in the care of the National Trust. Sutton Hoo is of primary importance to early medieval historians because it sheds light on a period of English history that is on the margin between myth, legend, and historical documentation. Use of the site culminated at a time when Rædwald, the ruler...
 
That fires those? ^
 
Are those rays?
 
5:42 PM
Is there anyway to check if my hosted-network clients are connected or not??? any idea guys..
 
Maybe a stringray gun
 
@bluetoothfx try to open a socket and see if you get an answer
 
Socket for my hosted network ... ??
 
I'm not sure exactly what you mean
They're machines that should have an IP, right?
 
okey: Hosted network means if you make hotsopt your laptop and connected devices is your client
make hotspot and connect clients...and i have to check the status if my clients connection status is really active or not
 
5:50 PM
I'm pretty vague on networking, but from what I understand you can't generally determine whether a client is actually there unless you try to open a connection to it
 
just ping it
 
if it's wifi then you should be able to see who's connected
 
@Tomwa in my computer connectify me is getting trouble so i decided to write mine
 
but then you're getting into some really low level stuff
 
yes i want to get this on my code
 
5:53 PM
@CharlieBrown computers don't necessarily respond to ping though
Can be configured to ignore it
 
ping/telnet/ssh whatever. just try to connect
do nslookup, check the iptables, poll the router for tables, etc etc
 
A wifi hotspot software.... okey I can tell you the scenario....say you are connected with my laptop now you are working fine. you need to go out of my wifi range after the when you come back you will see that it can't connect because connectify me is not disconnecting my device from the list...so i need to restart my software which isi preety boaring
 
really, you clients should be sending heartbeats most likely
 
wifi itself has some heartbeat stuff built in
your clients broadcast their presence all the time
 
if you want to know if the client itself has a connection it can use, then just poll the network status
 
5:56 PM
I can't tell if this is a programming question or a super-user question
 
maybe the question is how to get connected wifi devices using native APIs
if those APIs exist
 
there are network apis for c#
 
Summary: networking is a bunch of bullshit in which nothing is clear
2
 
ping not working
 
5:58 PM
Try pong
 
request time out...
lol
 
@TomW PRetty much
 
i think your reqs are not clear enough
 
Well if you're requesting time out go sit in the corner
 
Are you testing from the client, or from some server?
 
5:59 PM
@mikeTheLiar did your wife beat you so much :P
Client
 
@bluetoothfx only if I ask her to
 
we can see that effect
 
There's some form of banter here but I'm not sure I understand it.
 
where does the usermanager actually store the users
in Asp.NET Identity
in a cookie?
 
@Failsafe surely they have to be persistent?
So I'd say database
I mean, it has to remember who you are if the server is unplugged
 
user47589
6:04 PM
the typical way is using entity framework
 
user47589
IIRC identity has an IdentityContext or somesuch
 
IdentityResult result = await UserManager.CreateAsync(user, model.Password);
you mean this?
I should point out that I am new to Identity and am just trying to get the process flow down
 
user47589
the UserManager is set up with a context
 
from the project template provided by msft
 
user47589
its been a little while since i played with identity, working off memory. somewhere is a snippet of code that constructs the user manager with a context
 
user47589
6:07 PM
or, something like that
 
can you do application passthrough?
 
user47589
you mean, using the application pool identity?
 
yes
 
user47589
not sure
 
we already have an auth system before the user reaches our webpage
However, we need to check entitlements granted by the referrer
I was thinking identity would be a best practice way to go
You can group users based on roles and groups and such
 
6:09 PM
@Failsafe referrer as in a host the user receives a redirect from?
or something else?
 
referrer as in intranet login, so yes
the referrer header
 
user47589
identity is supposed to be ideal for working with federated logins
 
user47589
which probably means its terrible at it
 
I really only want it to filter views/API's based on their entitlements
i have on old webforms way to do it before identity
but i hate it
 
user47589
do you mean claims?
 
user47589
6:13 PM
i've not heard "entitlements" used outside of right-wing rhetoric
 
it's what we call roles
a.k.a administrator is an entitlement
 
@Amy is claims a protected term in this context? I'm trying to figure out membership reboot right now and that was something I was confused about
 
client is an entitlement
i will stop using the word entitlement
lol
im kind of just doing a PoC just really seeing what's available here
 
yeah, standard terminology pls
 
user47589
every role is a claim, but not every claim is a role. your username would be a claim, or your birthdate, or whatever.
 
6:15 PM
^
 
I claim this land in the name of Spain
 
user47589
that's my understanding. at the time i played with Identity 2, the documentation didn't mention claims much.
 
@mikeTheLiar federation metadata for Spain plz, I need to verify
 
"Federation metadata"? I have a flag
 
user47589
presents @TomW with @mikeTheLiar's stolen certificate
 
6:16 PM
@Amy Yea we aren't going to be using claims. We have a set list of roles/functions for users. They are all custom named roles based on the application....
 
user47589
@TomW Authenticate me as mike, please.
 
Im not even sure if you can use custom groups
holy shit
i just got an email saying i, me, get to define the architecture standards for web api
fuck
so much power
so much pressure
 
user47589
let it get to your head
 
i can do whatever the fuck i want
 
user47589
yes
 
6:20 PM
feelsgoodman
 
user47589
embrace the power
 
user47589
let the hate flow through you
 
shit i was gonna do that
 
9 messages moved to Trash can
Fun while it lasted
 
6:31 PM
dude i had a whole chain of LOTR gifs ready to go
call me MC Giffer
 
user47589
no
 
amy pls
 
user47589
but i dont wanna
 
user47589
lol
 
6:35 PM
@Failsafe You define this in your web.config settings.
also related
 
is this even valid c# code?
[i]AxVLCPlugin2 set MRL = Stream[/i]
 
no
 
did not think so
 
A weird thing is happening with my sql
 
@TravisJ when the project is on a tight deadline and there's not enough time to do things right
 
6:39 PM
I am getting more results with the left join than without it
Is it even posssible
 
@mikeTheLiar the trash will do! :)
 
user47589
yes that's possible
 
@Obviously is this your TSQL or MySQL?
 
tsql
 
user47589
a cartesian product can easily create more results
 
6:40 PM
@Amy - Especially if you take its inverse
 
A left join shouldn't create a cartesian product, right?
 
today I drank from the coffee mug my GF handed my on my way out the door expecting coffee when it was actually fresh squeezed orange juice from the box of oranges we bought
 
user47589
depends on how he's doing the join
 
@Codeman - bummer!
 
@TravisJ only if it didn't have vodka
 
6:41 PM
SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Schools AS S
LEFT JOIN Transactions AS T ON T.SomeWeirdId = S.SomeWeirdId
WHERE S.SchoolType = 1
Something like this is my query
 
@mikeTheLiar - I once chugged some vodka thinking it was dasani at like 4am :( It was terribru
 
I don't even understand how that's possible.
 
@Codeman book a table in a fancy restaurant and take her out tonight, that chick is a keeper
 
They might look alike but once it hits your throat you know you fucked up
 
It was in a half full water bottle
 
6:42 PM
See above
 
@TomW she is! :)
we prefer dive bars and cooking ourselves to fancy restaurants though
 
@TravisJ What can be done in the web.config?
 
So its not possible to return more rows, in left join right?
 
So I had squeezed it to get the water out faster having already been pretty hungover/still drunk. Probably got two large gulps out of it before it sunk in.
@Failsafe - You can determine how the user manager is configured to store information there.
 
@TravisJ ohh ok
 
6:44 PM
@Obviously with the information you've given us, no, you should not get more results with the left join. select count(*) from schools s where s.SchooldType = 1 should not return fewer results
 
56
Q: How can a LEFT OUTER JOIN return more records than exist in the left table?

Jay WildeI have a very basic LEFT OUTER JOIN to return all results from the left table and some additional information from a much bigger table. The left table contains 4935 records yet when I LEFT OUTER JOIN it to an additional table the record count is significatnly larger. As far as I'm aware it is ab...

 
!!afk meeting
 
@Codeman well whatever you do to make sure she knows her gesture was noticed and appreciated
 
Hi I am using webclient to upload files but i am getting timeout exceptions.then i wrote the helper class to set timeout as suggested in one of the stackoverflow answers.After that i am not getting exception but file isn't uploading.can any one suggest what is best option to upload files? FYI,I am using c# and winforms.
 
@TomW I do :)
 
6:56 PM
@user3403437 - If someone tries to upload a file that is larger than 5 MB then you will probably encounter difficulty. 500 MB and you will definitely have issues. Anything over a gig is going to require some advanced approaches.
Yeah @TomW, he already does that! Why do you think he got a cup of OJ on the way out of the house :P
 
@TravisJ after using helper class , even files (below 1mb ) aren't uploading? don't know the reason and I am not getting any exceptions or anything.
@TravisJ What would be the best approach?We need to upload large files as well.
 
@user3403437 - hm, can you see them in memory if you set a breakpoint? does your application have write access for storing the files? are the names from the UI matching up with the model binder?
 
protip: humble monthly bundle comes with a free copy of Rocket League and it's only $12 atm
 
7:12 PM
@Codeman they were giving it away for free at launch
 
lol
 
I propose tech be spelled as tehc for readability reasons.
 
user47589
seconded
 
thirdeded
 
Hmm, why does float work like this ? i.gyazo.com/3f04a66ee4248aef1efe46eacee51f3e.png
 
7:25 PM
31
Q: Why is the "f" required when declaring floats?

VolatileExample: float timeRemaining = 0.58f; Why is the f is required at the end of the number?

 
I see, hmm
 
i can.t even.
people who should know better, still dont
 
@CharlieBrown - who? what? where?
 
from the it director today: "how long will it take to retrain everyone as a ruby developer"
- team is java developers
- we have 2 months to deploy
 
Guys I decided to treat myself and return the nikon coolpix and get a DSLR. I got a DSLR d3300
 
Decided to dive into photography
 
@CharlieBrown - Wow. There are no words.
 
@Froxer real question is why are you using float instead of double?
any particular reason?
 
Yes, lets release an application for the banking industry written by people who have only had 2months to master the language and toolset. what could go wrong?
 
I am going through a course"c-sharp-fundamentals-with-visual-studio-2015" @ Pluralsight
To try and get more safe as a C# programmer, if i know what I am doing, there is less chance of running into scenarios where i think I am retarded after i figure out what was actually going on.
So i was coding along, and didnt understand why the float value needed to explicitly be typed as 89.5f for the IDE to understand that it was a float.
Now it is more clear :)
But usually you use double values ?
 
7:40 PM
@Jeremy - heh, I have read that before, it is a good article
> Wasn't that guy helpful? With the camel? Doesn't that seem like an appropriate response? No? Good. You can still find Jesus.
@Froxer - double or go home
 
Really, always? Never Decimal or Float?
 
> Don't worry, says Mary, Fred's going to handle the walkways. What walkways? Well Fred made a good case for walkways and they're going to add to the bridge's appeal. Of course, they'll have to be built without railings, because there's a strict no railings rule enforced by Phil, who's not an engineer. Nobody's sure what Phil does, but it's definitely full of synergy and has to do with upper management, whom none of the engineers want to deal with so they just let Phil do what he wants.
 
(I am trying to write a personal developer document @ google.docs with good stuff to keep in mind.)
 
@Froxer - decimal for currency
basically never float
 
LOL @ that typo :D
 
7:45 PM
;)
 
Ok
 
U made him upset now ^
 
lol
imma stop now
@Froxer - But really, there is not much use for float.
 
Alright
Ye, im just going back to basics because obviously there is shit missing from my knowledge.
 
7:49 PM
@Froxer - For simply jotting up small programs or test c# statements, LinqPad linqpad.net is really good as an installable, and dotnetfiddle.net is really good as an online source for testing
 
Alright, i usually have my Laptop with Visual Studio or I am at home where i also have VS.
I guess i could use dotnetfiddle.net if i was on my phone.
 
Yeah VS is nice. But sometimes to test I don't want to create a whole new project and I don't want to just write code into my dev environment that isn't actually being deployed.
 
There's got to be an easy way to create a background task that executes specific code at a specific time, right?
For example, play a sound at 1AM tomorrow morning.
 
@DemCodeLines Thread.Sleep(targetTime - DateTime.UtcNow);
(can be inaccurate)
 
user47589
I try to use as many floats as possible in my software
 
7:55 PM
I am working on a UWP app. I don't think that will work.
 
user47589
That way it doesn't sink.
 
For example, I had to use an orderby yesterday on a set of objects and I only wanted to use the boolean property of the objects to order on. I was fairly certain that it would do false first, as it is first lexicographically and also 0 in bit form. So I tested Console.WriteLine(Enumerable.Range(0,10).Select(i=>i%2==0).OrderBy(i=>i).First(‌​)); to double check. I didn't want to compile the whole project and run it, so doing that in linqpad was an easy way of double checking.
 
@Jeremy =( I joined the room after getting back from a training seminar and there was this. I was sad.... Sad and afraid.
 
lol @Amy
 
@Sidney - You missed my ninja edits :P
 
7:58 PM
Hmm, i havent got to use Enumerable that much yet
 
@Froxer Anything you can count is Enumerable
because count is part of IEnumerable
 
Enumerable is like warm apple pie
 
What do you meean @TravisJ
 
@TravisJ r u sure
 
yes
 
user47589
8:03 PM
are you positive
 
r u +
 
reeeeeeeeeeeally sure?
I need some chips + yoghurt in my life ......
(im not fat)
 
lol
 
Has anyone here extensively used the TimeTrigger class?
 
user47589
8:05 PM
you look like a guy i knew in college.
 
was he a cool guy ?
 
user47589
he was an oddball
 
wew
 
user47589
was into theatre, spent most of his time talking like he was at an aristocratic ball. we played D&D together.
 
From the corner of your eye you spot an apple pie. Roll a 30 sided die to see how warm it is.
roll: 14
luke warm
needs more panini
 
user47589
8:17 PM
its seasoned with ground panini spices
 
I look quite sexy tonight
 
You got your party hat on?
 
party shirt on yo
been out already
might go back out
 
user47589
is it the three-wolves howling at the moon shirt?
 
going out for me involves walking downstairs.
nooo, sexy blue shirt.
 
user47589
8:20 PM
meh
 
Do you have some swanky shoes on? :D
 
it's on!
Lately I have been dressing down more than up. Been wearing ugg slippers around. Even to fancy restaurants.
 
I have this shirt on, it glows in the dark: orig07.deviantart.net/afa5/f/2014/215/c/6/…
 
8:28 PM
What the heck did I miss?
 
@mikeTheLiar - We had a shirt naming contest
 
@Froxer I don't know why but I don't believe you.
Did your Dad go to MIT? Strong silent type?
 
Why dont you believe me ?
 
@mikeTheLiar ??
 
Dunno.
You kinda look like Gordon Freeman's son.
 
8:30 PM
I can actually prove that I am myself by my twitch stream :)
I wont stream, but if u check VODs
And compare to my pic
I will write something with FroxerBBQ alias in chat
 
I think I must be confusing you with someone else. For some reason I thought you were Indian.
 
Wtf @mikeTheLiar xD
I am kurdish
Hmm, that looks like a interesting serie actually
I do enjoy watching survival stuff
Been watching Dual survival, Naked and afraid
this looks like the next serie :)
Thanks @TravisJ
 
@Froxer - It is amazing! And you can go back and watch all of season 1 if you like it.
@Froxer - At first I thought it would be boring but I am smitten. It is just pure insanity. No camera people or anything.
 
Sounds amazing
Gonna finish up this module @ Pluralsight
and watch 1-2 episodes
 
8:37 PM
:)
 
o/
No work today?
 
nope, travel
 
user47589
get back to work
 
user47589
lazy bums ruining this country
 
user47589
8:44 PM
#MakeKendallWorkAgain
 
I wonder if when he looses he'll start suing people for co-opting everything he has said into a meme.
 
@Codeman That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!meme
 
@mikeTheLiar deskflip, fuu, iseewhatyoudidthere, no, notbad, ohyou, okay, troll, trollface, youdontsay
 
user47589
8:55 PM
is it possible to customize how EF creates entity proxies? what if i want to stick my own proxy in there, to support deferred decryption? i can use DynamicProxy2 to do this, but doing it the "EF" way might be preferred, if possible.
 
user47589
I have an entity with some encrypted fields. i have this decryption/encryption happening transparently as part of the dbctx.SaveChanges functionality
 
user47589
But even though I'm not "modifying" the properties, the decryption process still marks the property as modified, and the db is being updated with the re-encrypted value. i want to avoid this by only decrypting on demand
 
user47589
This is happening even though the entity is retrieved using AsNoTracking()
 
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