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user47589
3:00 PM
me either
 
user47589
i dont like the subscription pricing model
 
oh the good old days, you buy a stack of office disks, you own it forever
 
Yes the way it should be unless its some kind of every updating product like music tv movies real data not features
launching a site targeting Framework 4.5.2 and am getting an error The CodeDom provider type could not be located on the site
 
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I did ask rlemon why Google was being a sod and he said he doesn't know and Zirak can fix it.
Zirak is currently conscripted so that might take a while.
 
3:09 PM
@Sippy didn't he say they shut down the API?
 
wat
 
@juanvan no one owns software any more. You just license it.
 
why the hell would google do such a thing!
OUTRAGEOUS
someone sue them.
 
2 days ago, by rlemon
They shut down the api
 
@mikeTheLiar if you can decompile it you could own it
 
3:10 PM
And:
2 days ago, by rlemon
the api is done
 
would anyone be glad to help me with a C# assignment?
 
I asked him yesterday on Slack and he said he didn't know rofl
 
@Beda what's your question
Maybe he was misinformed about the API. Or he didn't want the semi-official answer to be "I don't know"
 
@mikeTheLiar I need my ZedGraph to present the data from datagridview table
 
wtf is a zedgraph
 
user47589
3:15 PM
an old graphing library
 
user47589
been around for a while
 
don't random ping ppl about your random question please btw
considering what you asked can be identified as "A question", which i doubt
 
More of a requirement really
 
@Beda OK. What are you stuck with?
 
I am just starting to panic as the deadline for my assignment is in 2 days and I am not even half way through so I am desperately searching for any possible help to be honest, sorry for bothering you all
 
3:18 PM
sorry for your timeline, but throwing us a requirement ask basically "so now what to do with it" will never get satisfied answer here
we need from exact question, about where exactly you get stuck
 
@Beda "helping you finish your project" is kinda out of scope for this room. If you have specific problems we'd be happy to help
"Adding more engineers to a late project will make it later"
 
user47589
we can help with specific problems
 
!!wiki brooks' law
 
Brooks' law is a claim about software project management according to which "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later". It was coined by Fred Brooks in his 1975 book The Mythical Man-Month. According to Brooks, there is an incremental person who, when added to a project, makes it take more, not less time. == Explanations == According to Brooks himself, the law is an "outrageous oversimplification", but it captures the general rule. Brooks points to the main factors that explain why it works this way: It takes some time for the people added to a project to become productive. Brooks...
 
user47589
@Beda what do you have so far, and what specific part are you having difficulty with?
 
3:20 PM
@Amy can we help with problematic specifications?
 
user47589
no
 
!!okay
 
I'm stuck on getting a command line utility (.exe) to run with commands using c#
            Process process = new Process();
            process.StartInfo.FileName = @"C:\Program Files (x86)\Cisco\Cisco AnyConnect Secure Mobility Client\vpncli.exe";
            process.StartInfo.WorkingDirectory = @"C:\Program Files (x86)\Cisco\Cisco AnyConnect Secure Mobility Client\";
            process.StartInfo.Arguments = @"-s < C:\Users\myUsername\Desktop\VPNConnectionScript.txt";
            process.Start();
 
Not what I expected but I'll take it
 
3:21 PM
It starts the .exe but I dont think it takes the arugments at all
 
i don't know what the "<" in your arguments really means
 
Do you possibly need quotes around the file path?
@tweray it's Cisco so I'm sure whatever it is, it doesn't make sense
 
actually.. sorry it must be my arugments that it thinks is invalid
By the way.. im trying out this SSIS ETL
:)
 
I just finished my dried apricots and that makes me sad
@Michael that way lies madness
 
So far it seems opportunistic
 
user47589
3:24 PM
dried apricots do indeed lead to madness
 
And sadness
 
never had an apricot
 
They're yummy
 
user47589
they're delicious
 
user47589
deliciously maddening
 
3:24 PM
I have had a kumquat
 
I accidentally bought the yogurt with soggy cereal added to it... that makes me sad :(
 
They are not very great
 
especially because now I have 11 more of them
 
Kumquats are a little sour iirc
 
yes
 
3:25 PM
Kinda squishy, too
 
11 pieces or 11 bags?
 
My dad has a kumquat tree
 
11 cups
 
Why?
 
and on the topic of abstract fruits.. Jack fruit is also very tasty
 
3:25 PM
lol, ok, that will take a while then
 
I like it frozen
 
star fruit is fun, dragonfruit tastes kinda like kiwi
 
Dragon fruit let me down
 
there are apparently many abstract edible fruits around the world that aren't legal to export so I'll never be able to try them without going there :(
 
user47589
abstract fruits?
 
user47589
3:28 PM
they haven't been implemented?
 
user47589
abstract class FruitNotForCuddleBunny { }
 
!!define abstract
 
@Michael abstract An abridgement or summary of a longer publication. [First attested around 1350 to 1470.]
 
I've always found it a terrible injustice that I don't live somewhere that mangoes grow wild
 
ugh, friday again, where do the mondays go
 
3:32 PM
they all get fed to the Tuesdays.
 
@mikeTheLiar wowwww I think my command line call wont work because of spaces in the file paths
 
and tuesday secretly sprue it into toilet and flushed it somewhere
 
grrr waste of half and hour
...and there is no good way to escape them in c#
 
Hey guys, Any leads for slightly advanced C# material? I have an interview coming up next week and am pretty clear with the basic stuff
 
Which is Skeet's book?
Is it C# In Depth? That one
 
3:41 PM
that's more than basic stuff
 
@The_Outsider here is an interview question. What is the best way to handled escaping this path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Cisco\Cisco AnyConnect Secure Mobility Client\
Beware spaces and back slashes
 
@Michael smooth.
 
I've only come up with solution :P
 
why did boltclock say this room was out of control, i tried following the convo but it made me go cross eyed
 
user47589
because TheLostMind told us to keep the room under control
 
3:44 PM
@Michael \C\:\\\P\r\o\g\r\a\m\ \F\i\l\e\s\ (\x\8\6)\\\C\i\s\c\o\\\C\i\s\c\o\ \A\n\y\C\o\n\n\e\c\t\ \S\e\c\u\r\e\ \M\o\b\i\l\i\t\y\ \C\l\i\e\n\t\\
 
user47589
implying that we had lost control
 
i threw up a little doing that
totes worth
 
user47589
i interpret boltclock's statement as mockery
 
it was
it was sarcasm
 
I case anyone came back from vacation wondering why asp.net core daily builds won't compile anymore, it is because you need to use the new CLI and change a bunch of stuff
 
3:45 PM
@Amy oh
haha nice
 
@Michael Do i win
do i win the backslash prize
 
@Failsafe lol i dont think that compiles
 
YOU DON'T COMPILE
 
but you should receive some sort of award!
a major award
 
@Failsafe you need to double escape \\t
or it turns into a tab
wait
 
3:46 PM
If you read BoltClock's name while squinting it looks like a word beginning with Bol and ending in ocks
 
triple escape it just to be sure
 
just saying
 
@StevenLiekens \\\C\\\:\\\\\\\P\\\r\\\o\\\g\\\r\\\a\\\m\\\ \\\F\\\i\\\l\\\e\\\s\\\ (\\\x\\\8\\\6)\\\\\\\C\\\i\\\s\\\c\\\o\\\\\\\C\\\i\\\s\\\c\\\o\\\ \\\A\\\n\\\y\\\C\\\o\\\n\\\n\\\e\\\c\\\t\\\ \\\S\\\e\\\c\\\u\\\r\\\e\\\ \\\M\\\o\\\b\\\i\\\l\\\i\\\t\\\y\\\ \\\C\\\l\\\i\\\e\\\n\\\t\\\\\
 
user47589
okay, what the hell.
 
user47589
> Could not copy "obj\Debug\blahblahb.dll" to "bin\Debug\blahblah.dll". The requested operation cannot be performed on a file with a user-mapped section open.
 
user47589
3:47 PM
i just rebooted
 
@Amy that's a new one to me
 
user47589
why would the file be open
 
and why would the error message be so specific
 
any custom build steps that might be touching it?
 
have you tried deleting the obj and bin folders,i could be wrong, but i vaguely remember clean not deleting obj, or something
 
user47589
3:48 PM
I have no idea. I didn't change anything in the build process. Just changed some code.
 
revert the proj file and see if something messed there
 
user47589
deleting all of the bin and obj folders had no effect
 
user47589
okay...
 
reinstalling vs2015 for the second time today
 
user47589
there's one dll i can't delete. its the dll cited in the error.
 
user47589
3:52 PM
closing VS lets me delete it.
 
O_o
 
user47589
bizarre
 
@StevenLiekens Moving from VS 2015 CTP 6 to RC broke a ton of my app because of project.json. Hope that doesn't happen again
 
You're using Microsoft's shiny new toy
Whatcha expect lol
 
user47589
3:59 PM
you're using a release candidate. changes are to be expected.
 
Yep, why I was surprised is beyond me :)
 
well going from RC1 to RC2 shouldn't be a complete redesign of the platform
but that's what it is
 
I blame the dotnet team though, if they knew they were going to build this CLI, they should have worked with the asp.net team from the start
 
I had a hard time figuring out RC2 because I kept trying to do things the RC1 way
and they are not compatible
 
I gave up compiling RC2 until I watched a few episodes of the weekly community streams
it makes much more sense now
 
4:06 PM
it finally clicked for me when someone said that visual studio doesn't use the dotnet CLI
 
I stopped trying to do asp.net core in Visual Studio a long time ago
 
and I can just ignore the red squiggles as long as the CLI can compile my code
 
not going back in until rtm
everything works great with the insiders build of VS Code
 
@Michael yes that sounds likely. Did you get it sorted?
 
god i ate too much, now i'm tired as hell
 
4:10 PM
#1stWorldProblems
#MericunProblems
 
user47589
@SteveG get back to work, pleb
 
stupid quadruple whopper
 
jfc why do you hate yourself so much
 
meat more meat
 
haha, i'm jk
 
4:11 PM
I think the last time I could finish a burger of that size was when I was a teenager and eating 4000 calories a day
 
yeah, it's been a decade since i've had a triple
 
I don't think meat triggers my fullness reflex. Sugar on the other hand, I'm a complete wimp
 
I think the first time I went to Wendys in the states I ordered a medium and couldn't believe the amount of food I got. It was disgusting.
 
funny, i had wendys last night, and couldn't believe how small a medium frosty was
 
The guy who was head of the programming at one of the places I worked required using prerelease versions of VS in production environment. Never going to do that again. Only RTM
 
4:15 PM
wow, even MS says don't do that
 
There's a bbq chain down the street. They have sized potatoes. I guess they put them on a scale or whatever, but every once in a while, they have a "Man-tater" which is > 1.5 lbs. They then proceed to heap butter, sour cream, chives, bacon, and then bbq'd meat on it. Welcome to 'murica.
@Alex "I don't normally use buggy software, but when I do I do it for production"
 
@Sidney And only on production, cause we like to see our clients cry :D
 
What else do you do with clients?
 
user47589
yesssssssss, cry harder
 
/s/cry//
 
user47589
4:17 PM
slap
 
/cry
 
I'm not sure why you shouldn't be allowed to use a prerelease VS as long as the binaries run on a stable runtime
 
user47589
yessss, cry harder, @SteveG
 
lol
 
user47589
your suffering gives us strength
 
4:18 PM
"Alex, do you know the production shop is down?" Ahhh, such sweet words to hear first thing in the morning
 
you know ily, in a totally romantic way, btw, look out your window
 
user47589
why is there a marching band outside my window?
 
@Alex or on a friday night when you're getting ready to go home
 
Yo @Steve
 
4:19 PM
How's it going?
 
AUGH!
 
fuck sake man
what is that
 
@Sippy it's going all right, think my old man is going to be alright, they're just going to remove his bladder, but can't be fore sure until they're done with all their tests
 
@StevenLiekens Yep, at 4:45, "Ahhh, there's an issue with production. Can you take a look at it real quick?"
 
user47589
if they remove his bladder, does that mean he will always have a trickle pee?
 
4:20 PM
he'll hafta pee in a bag apparently
 
Love how they throw in "... real quick"
 
as if anything with production is ever real quick
 
lmfao
 
user47589
tell them you took a quick look but didn't see anything, and ask if they want you to do a more detailed analysis
 
4:21 PM
Hopefully he'll be ok man
 
thanks, means a lot
 
@SteveG best wishes, dude.
 
In other news I have a resource object in JS which is a global object filled with a large number of variables which I have to put into an excel spreadsheet
 
:)
 
Can someone do it for me
 
4:22 PM
Nothing sweeter than quittin' a bad job :)
 
@Alex :D
 
Walking away that last time, smiling ear to ear :D
 
walking into a new one?
 
Out this mothercoder for good
 
@Sippy globalobject->tojson in console, copy paste, parse json
 
4:23 PM
thenks
 
@Squiggle Mostly. But in one case, thought I was going back to school. Didn't happen. Took a few months to find a new job
 
'gratz
Right. Time to go frolic in the mountains. Have a great weekend, all.
 
You too :)
 
hey guys
finally my suspension is over
 
what did you do?
 
4:25 PM
"Suspended for posting vulgar content to SO chat"
 
what did you post? gets ready to flag
 
memes?
 
oh
 
and asked about music XDD
I have a question
 
Keep it clean. There are children here :)
 
4:26 PM
is it possible to emmbed an outlook calendar in c#
and create an appointend on somebody else calendar?
 
@mikeTheLiar no, I've given up for today. I literally some how wasted 2 hours trying to get it to work. I ended up just creating a batch file and calling Process.Start() on the batch file for now.
 
I just find ways to send appointmans to the appointmant recipient of outlook
!!Tastes
 
@Mr.Toxy You shove what you like to shove
 
Caprica the heck -_-' don't tell them our secrets
you're mine precious
 
user47589
Oh boy
 
4:33 PM
You're a weird guy, Toxy.
 
I was joking and plus, normal people are so damn boring I'll take that as a compliment, thank you @Sippy
 
can't tell if that boltclock starred message is being silly or actually happened
the transcript gives no hints, since i imagine things would be hard-deleted
 
@Jeremy What do you mean by that
 
apparently, it was sarcasm
i couldn't tell either
 
Bolt was trolling the other mod as far as I could tell roflmao
 
user47589
4:35 PM
Yeah
 
still it was true at the moment
 
idk why we get so much attention, we're the best of the bunch
 
cause you guys are crazy XD in a good way (like that Ice cube skype emoji)
 
Bollocks to you work, I'm outta here
 
not only in behavior, but in intellect, humor, and...
 
user47589
4:36 PM
P
 
<something inappropriate i decided not to send>
 
@TomW I approve that message
 
@TomW have a good weekend
 
user47589
Steve is learning
 
@SteveG wondering
 
4:38 PM
@Amy pot calling the kettle black
shit
 
I was searching and I couldn't find any good alternative to MDI
you guys mentioned some
I think
 
god i'm exhausted, i didn't get to bed until like 430 and woke up at 7
 
jesus
T.T
 
<another inappropriate comment>
 
@SteveG that sucks
 
user47589
4:42 PM
Lol
 
@SteveG A comment I've done?
 
no, i'm replacing my inappropriate comments with placeholders, i figured it's the correct thing to do / programmers way
 
hahahaha thats a good aproach
15 min to go
and the week is over
^^
 
that sucks
only 15 more minutes of fun
 
@SteveG that sarcasm was gr8 hahahahahahhahaha
 
4:44 PM
it wasn't sarcasm
 
@SteveG had fun for 2 days working in my project since my boss wasnt here
well it's fun to be here, not that fun figuring out that Google API is such a pain in the ass to implement and that Im not finding any good alternatives
 
google api is easy
at least, the ones i've used
 
I need NuGet and something else
but for what I need (Google Calender API) I need to introduce the user ID one bye one, wich for what I need it's not good
 
im a big fan of sandwiches
!!bigfan
 
@SteveG That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
4:47 PM
damn
 
try tastes @SteveG caprica gives you a hint
10 min
 
@Mr.Toxy proud of that? =)
 
@Sidney HAHAHAHAHAHA well to "have" a command yes, but that sentence is stupid af hahahaha but it makes me laugh tho
@Sidney it was worth... for a good laugh at least
 
It makes perfect sense.
!!taste
 
@Sidney That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: tastes, test, testx
 
4:51 PM
!!Tastes
 
@Mr.Toxy You shove what you like to shove
 
Cap is just not being friendly today.
 
@Sidney are the commands cap sens?
 
No, but they get caught in plurality.
 
oh I see
well see ya all monday
have an awesome weekend
and stuff
 
4:56 PM
bye bye
 
Cool. For my work objectives I get to research running Docker containers on Azure
I get 10 days/year of study time
 
that sounds fun
 
Read: 10 days to stay at home, read and drink tea
 
if i'm on devops i get 1 day a week of study time, but if i'm on a project, i get zilch
 
Bonus is contingent on doing objectives so I'd better do them
SOB senior consultant has put a lot of deliverables in this fucking thing so I've got a load of work to do, bastard
 
4:59 PM
:(
 
does anyone know how to include the Microsoft.TeamFoundation.VersionControl.Server assembly?
 
It'll probably be quite interesting, but easy to get derailed and suck up a lot of my time
 

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