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10:00 AM
TIL: Godwin's second law says you automatically lose any argument as soon as you mention w3schools
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roflmao
 
@MaartenWachters I get seriously annoyed at programming too. I rage. I admit it.
 
English, please
 
hey now who was saying about bad documentation for the aspnet core stack? It's in RC2 and the docs are actually pretty good! docs.asp.net/en/latest
I'm OK with not-English.
 
10:03 AM
I still just see .NET Core as .NET inspired by NodeJS really.
 
How can i see if one number is divisible for other?
 
@RoelvanUden Ye sometimes I could throw my laptop out of the window
 
Hi everyone.
@AndréMarques if(first % second == 0). Its (%) called modulo.
 
@RoelvanUden it pretty much is - but it feels much cleaner than WebAPI on the current stack. The version handling and package management is a little nicer, and the command-line tooling is a real boon.
 
Roflmao
 
10:06 AM
thanks @C4ud3x
 
Network admin just came over to me and said "Can you <hand signal> .. in the uhhh, <hand signal> for <points to something>?"
 
@Squiggle Well of course, because NodeJS with npm and middleware was simply a much better thought out platform than csproj and NuGet stuff with monolithic frameworks. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they moved that way, but I'm not exactly excited or impressed.
 
Lol'd loudly.
 
@Sippy XD
 
@RoelvanUden I'm not excited, but I am happy.
 
10:07 AM
I find it hard to be excited about programming lately. :(
 
@RoelvanUden :O
 
Depends on the project doesnt it?
 
@RoelvanUden Thank god I'm not the only one
 
No, we're still just buggering on with broken stuff without actually changing anything. I mean, .NET Core, what is that really? Just the same thing that is slightly different in what it can do. It's slightly cleaner. Was that worth 4 years of waiting? Fuck no.
@Sippy Yeah.. I'm happy I'm not alone either :3
 
Wanna go be farmers?
 
10:10 AM
I haven't considered that yet.
 
Mate, get internet access and a gaming PC in your tractor
 
xD
 
Pretty sure fields have WiFi access in NL right?
 
I could make drones farm for me.
 
Lol
Now that would be impressive.
 
10:10 AM
off-topic
Mozilla or G. CHrome
 
Automate everything. The entire fucking farm automated.
Why not?!
@MaartenWachters Bananas or Apples?
 
Prolly cost less to just pay people to do it lol
 
Bananas @RoelvanUden
 
@MaartenWachters Chrome. Firefox is a bloated monster, and Chrome is merely on its way to being a bloated monster.
 
Chrome's pretty much there.
 
10:11 AM
I use chrome myself but for my labs I'm required to use mozilla
 
I would argue vice versa.
I use Firefox.
 
I hate chrome...
 
That's quite good apparently.
 
Here's a thought: Edge.
 
Rav
firefox
 
10:12 AM
Edge isn't finished lol
 
Neither is Chrome
 
But still, neither of them is nearly as bloated as the standard was 10 years ago.
 
The only way I can think to describe Edge is "It's better than IE"
 
IE7 and Firefox 3 were both terribly slow and clunky.
 
Yeah that's true.
 
10:12 AM
Edge sucks
 
Edge is a pretty good browser. Now with plugins, I don't see much reason to get Chrome/Firefox/whatever.
 
Edge is fine.
 
I'm not on win10 so
 
gah
 
I downgraded again
 
10:13 AM
and the developer tools are perfectly sufficient
 
people keep creating more documentation I have to fill in which prevents me from working
 
(disclaimer: I know a guy who makes the IE developer tools and he's awesome)
 
Chrome, for me, is what Firefox was 8 years ago and what IE was 15 years ago - good enough, and until they break it too much, I feel no need to switch.
 
@Squiggle Is that Monsieur Sampson?
 
@Sippy who? no...?
 
10:14 AM
Oh.
There's a dude who uses SO Chat called Jon Sampson
Think he owns Edge
Or part of it at least
 
How can you own Edge?
 
Agile!
 
Product owner lol
Or team leader
 
10:15 AM
He's very important
 
obligatory Edge gif
 
lel
graceful
 
The Edge fell off... the edge...
So do people here actually use Edge as their main browser?
 
Not yet.
 
when will you?
 
10:17 AM
Nope.
I dont think Ill ever leave firefox.
 
When plugins can be installed without Microsoft account
 
Its easier staying on habits.
 
hi anyone have good knowledge about Ninject ???
 
Yeah keep doing drugs @C4ud3x
 
i have one issue that i want to discuss
 
10:18 AM
O.o
What
 
Those are also habits people keep.
I'm pointing out habits may be bad.
 
But not mine!?
 
I hope not.
 
Sounded like lol.
 
I still use Chrome
I will stop when Edge becomes better.
I don't fancy any other browser, mainly because fucking everything is tied to my google account
 
10:20 AM
Do try Firefox
 
No.
 
@RoelvanUden Its not about "just using firefox because its firefox". I've got a lot of addons. As long as they arnt available on other browsers, theres no such question for me.
 
Firefox default dev tools are better than Chrome default dev tools but you can augment the Chrome dev tools to be better.
So why bother.
 
In firefox, I need 4 clicks to see the cookies for a single website.
 
There's a plugin for that :-D
 
10:23 AM
morning
whats with all the starred comments?
 
@JanDvorak Without any plugins.-
 
anyone have ninject idea???
 
... where?
 
@Mr.Toxy ?
 
something went on fire really quickly XD
 
10:27 AM
Don't worry about it.
 
@Sippy I dunno they are all discussing something about mod again I think?
 
I got 3 add-ons in Firefox; Adblock, Ghostery, and NoScript.
That's all I need.
 
wats ghostery
anon helper?
 
Yeah. Stops trackers. Like Disconnect.
 
I've got a vpn for that.
 
10:29 AM
Ooo
I have a VPN but I never use it
 
Hackbar is quite nice.
 
Probably should
 
They still track you over a VPN.
 
HotspotShield is pretty good tbh
 
Too slow.
15$ here for a 1Gbps VPN.
 
10:29 AM
HSS isn't slow O_o
 
total vpn
it's good
 
@C4 which one do you use
 
perfect-privacy.
 
I paid 1 euro for a year VPN.. at 100mbps. Its fine for me.
 
@RoelvanUden lolwat where
I paid £20 for mine once for an annual subscription, never paid again and that was like 2-3 years ago
 
10:30 AM
@Sippy They've got a lot of servers all around europe.
 
I still have 2 years left on it
@C4ud3x That really doesn't mean shit to me. What's the VPN called lol
 
The website you mean?
 
yeah
 
total surf its cool
 
perfect-privacy i said :D
 
10:31 AM
works pretty well
 
Oh lol
 
nice
 
Non-logging company. Nothing.
 
I googled perfect privacy and it autocorrected me to LLC
Apparently they do whoisguard
 
10:35 AM
 
Their service is illegal anyway.
Not using it. The abuse is done by the holders.
 
illegal but good, or illegal and bad?
if illegal but good its still an option to consider
 
They arnt logging, thats forbidden.
Its "illegal, but good for the customer".
 
@C4ud3x thats good
 
They've proven that by granting remote access to their servers for serval external board-admins.
 
10:39 AM
ohh
I see
 
!!profanity
LIIIIIIIIIIVE
 
what?
what follows a 2 day suspension?
 
What?
 
@Mr.Toxy There was some drama over the last couple of days over the over-use of profanity in this room. Please avoid using it.
 
profanity? o.O what profanity?
 
10:41 AM
4 mins ago, by Mr.Toxy
I don fuck that one will give a sigle damn fuck about what u do with your own computer XDD
 
Why do you always assume people are talking to you all the time lol
I was checking if there was a profanity command for other reasons
 
!!pizza 600 240
 
@Sippy you sir understand things in a weird way. I asked what profanity as what did he ment by that. Did I ask if it was about me anywhere? NO!
 
:( where's cap?
 
hangover again
oh no
 
10:43 AM
stop
 
@Mr.Toxy You have no grasp of context.
 
10:55 AM
@Sippy I can tell you via email or something :p
I dont want the world to know :p
It's a trick.
 
DM me it on slack lol
We can do that now
 
DM..?
 
Direct Message
 
Arara
Ok, I'll see how stack works ;O
 
Man
sorry
brain didn't think that through
 
10:57 AM
It is okay.
I can replace your association.
Watch ARIA The Animation
You absolutely will replace your "Arara" association
 
I shall.
 
quick stupid question
if i want to get the weekly avarage
can I just multiply the daily avarage by 5
and have the daily avarage
 
n..no
 
;_;
 
Oh wait, you have the daily average? how?
 
11:03 AM
the timeout screwed my messages
 
Is it accurate?
 
I have the monthly summary
and made the daily avarage out of it
and I just want to calculate the weekly avarage
so can I just do daily * 5?
cause work is 5 days a week
 
no do total month devided by number of weeks
 
it comes up to too much
 
to work out number of weeks do working days / 5
 
11:07 AM
it was the same...
the same result as daily * 5
 
I expect it would
 
Monthly * 12 * 1.08 (if you get 8% vacation pay) + % (whatever you get for profit sharing)
Then you have accurate yearly, then just /52 for week
 
Lol profit sharing, there's a novel idea
 
current status: using npm to upgrade jspm to enable overrides, because an npm dependency pulls in bower dependencies that should point to npm.
@TomW worked OK for me!
 
"I already share my profit with you; I pay you don't I?"
 
11:13 AM
lol suspended again
 
profit sharing is getting paid for other people's good work
 
people do love to flag everything
 
@TomW It's a real thing here. If my company has a ton of profit, the employees get a cut.
It motivates them to get even more profit for the company.
@Mr.Toxy You were suspended? For what?
 
@RoelvanUden yeah I know, just being cynical
 
Ah ok.
My profit cut is laughable, really, it's barely worth mentioning.
My brother gets more than a month wage :/
 
11:18 AM
@RoelvanUden What should motivate them are raises and promotions
 
Difference of company sizes ftw :D
What motivates me is not money or fame or status or promotions, it's working on something I enjoy :D
 
@RoelvanUden well first 2 day suspension for a youtube music video that they said "inapropriate content" dunno. second a comment with a "I dont think people would give a single damn fu## about what you do with your compuer" got me suspended for 30 min after I entered chat 5 min. they said profanity
 
@RoelvanUden also that
 
@KendallFrey you can only promote people who can do the job and there is a job for (although that doesn't seem to stop a lot of incompetent people) and once you're paying them a higher salary you have to do it forever
 
@TomW or demote them
 
11:20 AM
today is my how do you say hmmm dating anniversary?
is that right?
ok its my dating anniversary yey ^^
 
In anything but a startup, a single person isn't going to affect profit noticeably
@RoelvanUden What games/kind of games do you play on your Vive?
 
Unless that individual create some piece of software that they can sell for a large amount of money.
 
does anyone have any knowledge of JSPM?
I can't seem to get these overrides working
 
I'd hazard a guess at room 17
 
"
Travis J has removed Sippy from the list of this room's owners." wow things I find
-_-'
 
11:29 AM
hilarious
 
they are making SO a shitty place to hangout
Im so annoyed, the damn rules are relative and only apply when it suits them
@misha130 I couldn't agree more
they should make a sandbox with bots so they could apply those "rules". just ban or suspend the bot to be happy
 
SO chat was never meant to be a matey hub. It's a place to compliment the online Q&A site
it's only fair they want to hold chat to the same standards as the rest of the community. Honestly I don't have a problem with that. Sure, some of the enforcement can be a bit heavy-handed and belligerent, but that's what you get when everything is run by volunteers.
 
@Mr.Toxy As I see it, the rules are common-sense, flexible and totally reasonable, and not saying the f-word is really a small limitation.
@Squiggle I agree.
 
I find the idea a bit juvenile but I guess there is no age restriction (that I know of) on the chat so I can understand it
 
woah woah woah
we can say fuck
we just cant go over board
 
11:44 AM
@misha130 Given the latest kerfuffle, even mild profanity that gets flagged will probably bring on the wrath of the mods.
 
Summon the Lich King!
 
we still talking about this huh :)
 
I mean if they have a problem with profanity then they should just block it programmatically it really wouldn't be hard to get the simple stuff
 
oh give it up already people, who gives a ... booger. These over the top rules don't make this place a h e double hockey sticks!
 
@AlexL Technical solutions don't solve social issues.
 
11:51 AM
@AlexL minimum age 13
 
@AlexL This is what moderators are for. Sometimes they go overboard. Usually they don't. And even when they do, things get resolved relatively quickly.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan in this room's case apparently it still isn't resolved
 
personal opinion but I think we should try to not be vulgar
 
here we are on monday still talking about it, Sippy had the best solution IMO
 
@AlexL That would be a clbuttic mistake.
 
11:52 AM
@NicolásCarlo Sure it is. There's some fallout and resentment, which is understandable, but that's it.
 
@misha130 that depends on your definition of the word "vulgar", we don't all hail from the US/UK
 
we can say profanity but not be a bloody sailor
 
@KendallFrey I was assuming it would be PG-13 sort of thing so just the F and C word stared out a little
 
That's known as the S****horpe problem
 
and the J word
 
11:56 AM
the... j-word?
 
J word?
 
Java
 
jew? jizz? jesus?
 
Oh I'm offended!
and triggered
 
Calling for meta right now
This is not ok
 
11:59 AM
anyway, pointless discussing this. should see the meta post, the mods, you know the people with all the power, think they can arbitrarily decide what's allowed and what's not, i don't have the time or patience to whine about this all week long, i'm done "socializing" on this room, have a nice day people, when i have strict c# related stuff i'll holla!
 
Well, I am muslim and I felt offended since I can't be part of the J family
 
Wait really Jakob
Also new pic looking good my polish friend
 
He's trolling
 
I think you should all take after me
For I am great and humble
And never swear
 
> For I am great and humble
> great
> and
> humble
 
12:09 PM
Thatsthejoke.jpg
 
But I know I'm a million times as humble as thou art!
 
@KendallFrey weird al!
 
yeeeeah
really really white and nerdy
I'm significantly less white than I was yesterday though
 
No
you're whiter then teeth after bein brushed by colgate
 
oh snap
colgate sounds like what would happen if Stephen had a secret affair
 
12:13 PM
lol
also morning
 
He'd make that joke too
 
It's mah man Failsafe
Well I made it first, bite me @KendallFrey
 
no you didn't
wtf
 
Yes I did
 
12:29 PM
Can't wait for this meeting to be over so I can go play EVE: Valkyrie
 
Eve blerrrgh
Overwatch is gonna be where it's at!!!
 
Not EVE
 
I heard Valkyrie was trash
 
I enjoyed it
I don't know what's going to happen as I progress
It was nice that I didn't suck right off the bat
played five matches, ended up with a k/d of pi
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Lol
 
12:32 PM
Be back in a bit, getting kicked out of the lab for half an hour
lol
 
i remember those days
 
Gonna play ping pong / table tennis
Fuck I love my uni
AFK
 
@KendallFrey wow you have it waiting...I would say that will be fun...do you have headset?
 
@Ggalla1779 Yeah, just got it last week
enjoying it immensely so far
 
thats great..which headset?
 
12:33 PM
Rift
 
I am holding back
want 2nd gen
 
@Ggalla1779 did you ever get a Slack invite?
 
nope
you
 
I'll see if I can figure out how to do it on mobile
 
ok cheers
 
12:39 PM
Don't believe his lies
 
got it
lol
 
Should be one coming your way
Hopefully it makes it, I'm in a tunnel atm
 
Yeah got it but works blocking it so will send it to my gmail
thanks
 
Hi guys, some of you could help me with this question?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37356778/method-does-not-have-a-signature-compatible-on-some-computers
Its VB but still .NET
 
I don't like solving my own problems with VB
 
12:53 PM
@mathiasfk which version of the .Net framework is the project built against?
 
3.5
It is a web application, if it matters
 
same for both machines?
 
yes
 
then I'm out of ideas. It's something funky. You say you've made it work by making the arguments explicit?
 
yes, that's right
 
12:55 PM
VB but still .NET? This is the C# room, not .NET room
 
better to be explicit. Problem solved. Move along :)
also use C#.
!!wololo
 
haha ok
 
was not my choice
 
it's your choice to get a new job ;)
 
12:56 PM
yeah, I also have that in mind for the future
 

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