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3:00 PM
@Amy OK I admit it. My "hardware inventory" is inadequately "indexed".
 
lead ui dev wants to have a 30min meeting everyday for all devs that work on the frontend. in addition to the 30min code review we do everyday, and the 30min scrum call, and 30min team meeting
Thats 2hrs of meetings to start everday!
 
Meatings.
 
user47589
nice
 
user47589
1/4 of your productivity is getting sucked into meetings. soon it will be 1/3. then 1/2.
 
3:02 PM
"Why is it taking longer and longer to ship? I'll call more meetings to tackle this problem!"
 
think about the bright part, at least those 2 hours are billable
it's like perfect chance to play plant vs zombie on 2nd screen and still getting paid
 
user47589
the meetings will continue until productivity improves
 
@CharlieBrown That's vile.
 
Jobs Christ
 
user47589
I don't know that version of Christ.
 
3:06 PM
Christ is just a family name
 
Oily Josh
 
and jesus registered it as trademark
 
Yes my Orange Juice was blessed by Jesus, suddenly you see increase in sells
 
@Squiggle Excel spreadsheet
 
3:09 PM
@TomW That was my first thought. That or Access. I guess they need something more, like the ability to print asset labels etc.
 
Guys any book or tutorial site that has lot of examples on how to unit test c# code?
I read The Art of Unit Testing but it lacks advanced examples
 
@Vlad check out some projects on github?
 
@Squiggle you guess? Wouldn't it be a good idea to find out?
Cause, y'know, requirements
 
user5981182
Is there a book called "How to find TIME to do unit testing" somewhere ?
 
@TomW already asked. Waiting for response :)
 
user47589
3:12 PM
I dont have time to look
 
Requirements are for the weak.
Real programmers don't need requirements.
 
the time that you save because you have tests is the time that you get to write more tests
 
ok will search github
 
@SteveHémond You don't have time not to
 
@Squiggle standard business. Go to developer, developer has the temerity to ask them to explain what they want. So they go and buy an expensive commercial product instead
 
3:13 PM
no doubt
 
Do you need a dedicated server to run a state service for out of state process management?
For like a decent sized app
 
i see dumb people put unit testing as a line item in an estimate, then management says we can save money by not doing that one
 
Guessing it would need a lot of memory?
 
@Squiggle 500 people all managing inventory?
 
@CharlieBrown solution, get rid of managers
 
3:16 PM
think of all the money saved
 
^
 
hahah
 
@KendallFrey wat? no. 500 staff at the firm. One person managing inventory (I assume)
n/m
 
that sounds more reasonable
I'd recommend our product, if you don't mind crap internationalisation
 
user47589
I mind.
 
3:19 PM
probably overkill, if you're thinking Access
 
@KendallFrey link plz :)
 
managers exist b/c companies have extra money to blow
 
o/
 
user5981182
scum masters too
 
3:20 PM
it's an accounting system that does inventory on the side
 
@Gabe I realized something over the weekend - you're going to get 2 summers this year.
 
vp, director, manager, dev, qa
Which of these is the only required person to complete a project?
 
intern
 
@mikeTheLiar - don't remind me D: I'm a winter guy
 
user47589
do those people combine together into a super employee like Voltron?
 
user5981182
3:22 PM
hahaha
 
and @CharlieBrown - the director of coarse. He takes all the credit anyway
 
user5981182
dev + director + qa = scum master
 
user47589
Volton is the only required person to complete a project.
 
With your powers combined, I am Incapable Of Making A Decision!
 
user47589
if Captain Planet was one of my coworkers, I'd quit.
 
user5981182
3:23 PM
A scum master is like a mathematician that becomes a teacher, this is the sign that his career reached the end of the road
 
What do you call a group of managers?
 
> scum master
 
user47589
a meeting.
 
Scrum masters in principle sound really useful
Get the crap out of the way of the dev team. Great, actually do that and I will endorse scrum masters
 
I used to know a guy who was in some sort of "battle of the bands from tech companies". They named their band "Scrum of the Earth"
 
user47589
3:26 PM
nice
 
think about if we really have a scrum for the earth
 
user47589
a global, 15 minute standup meeting?
 
@SteveHémond That's rather brutal. Nothing wrong with teachers.
 
never met a scrum master who actually had enough power to do anything other than "facilitate" the scrum meeting
 
@Amy in person attendance required
We don't call them scrum masters here, it goes to their heads too much. So we call them scrumbags instead.
3
 
user47589
3:28 PM
I had a scrum master once who did slightly more than facilitate the meetings. She also gathered requirements. But that was about it.
 
@CharlieBrown that person was only a mid-level scum master. Needs somebody to show them how to go pro
 
@Gabe and once they go pro they don't do anything!
 
user47589
Going pro means they have reached the pinnacle of their evolution.
 
user47589
There's nowhere to go from there.
 
Sure there is. Investor meetings.
 
3:30 PM
th only thing our scrumaster does it schedule meetings, show up and call out peoples names during standups
 
user47589
someone has to do it
 
Wait till you get a scum master that gets cocky and messes with the deployment server
 
My first experience of Scrum was really great. Our scrum master was hyper-effective.
oh Han ;_;
 
@CharlieBrown - I have a gripe with your parents. I've always wanted to know what they've been saying all these years
 
3:34 PM
me too
 
I still haven't seen the new Star Wars
 
user47589
you what
 
There we go
 
@Gabe me neither
 
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3:36 PM
In aus, dinner and a movie night has gone to to just movie night. $35 per ticket not including buying anything there
 
user47589
the bluray will be released in April, AFAIK
 
Not cheap so I can rarely justify it anymore
O.o they only just released it
 
user47589
I'm super lucky. The local theatre (only 6 screens) costs only $10 for the ticket, large drink and large popcorn.
 
WHAT
Those prices remind me of the 90's
 
I had a super experienced scrum master, but he was kind of too cocky, meaning he knows' everything haha :)
 
3:39 PM
The good ol' days
 
user47589
This place is pretty much unchanged from the 90s.
 
When you get extremely frustrated cause a breakpoint is not getting triggered and you notice after some time that you are in the real version and not the local project..
 
I still remember leaving the matrix and looking around at the world and saying "mind blown"
But I also remember the heartbreak of all the ladies and the joy of all the men in titanic
So it all evens out I guess
 
user47589
i remember leaving the Matrix full of wonder and excitement.
 
user47589
got to see a pre-release with some friends. we worked together at a comic book store across the street from my school
 
3:42 PM
I remember full leather coats becoming "fashionable"
And you got a pre-release viewing of the matrix? I'm impressed with your restraint in not telling the world about the plot
 
I went to a theatre yesterday in a small suburb and it was only $4 a show
was converted from an old stage theatre, added a ceiling between the balcony and the ground floor and each has a separate screen.
 
user5981182
A video CIRCA 1995 look at the teenage fashion : youtube.com/watch?v=S7-QNr5ceTg
 
user5981182
priceless
 
My old local cinema was fantastic. The worlds oldest custom-built picture house in the UK. Straight out of the 1930s.
 
user47589
we still have a drive-in theatre
 
3:45 PM
they even put on silent movies with live piano
 
user47589
wow, that's neat.
 
there is a drive-in here too, it is great
 
Never been to a drive-in movie. What's it like?
 
do You have to tune in the radio, to listen to the movie? Or is it enough loud to listen to it?
 
@SteveHémond youtube.com/watch?v=h3MxEHQk644 real 90s fashion right here
 
3:49 PM
you need to tune radio
there's usually multiple screens, and you can drive around to find the movie you like
 
user47589
tuning the radio lets you listen in stereo
 
user47589
imo, drive-in theatres are a great use of wasted, empty parking lots at dead malls.
 
user5981182
@misha130 Wow this video is a real treasure
 
wipes tear
I miss the dirty girls
Alright bed time - later all o/
 
4:12 PM
Ugh, I'm stuck on this problem and I have no idea what the cause is.
It's like, everything looks correct. But that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work.
 
@mikeTheLiar to the pub!
 
Now there's an idea.
 
user47589
You just need to look at it with a fresh set of eyes.
 
I'm counting the hours until I get to go to the pub. (1.5)
 
user47589
I can sell you a pair.
 
4:15 PM
I just want to nap
fuck the pub
 
@Amy what color?
 
user47589
what color you want?
 
Blue. And with horizontal pupils.
 
user47589
You're in luck, I have those in stock.
 
David Haney on March 7, 2016
Are Developers Good Negotiators?
 
4:20 PM
omg
windows won't let me open a vb file because it has determined it's very dangerous
I agree but I still need it
 
> very dangerous
 
@Feeds go home you're drunk
 
@mikeTheLiar you should totally flag feeds
just...because
 
user47589
If you flag feeds rlemon will swoop in here and bonk you on the noggin. Is that what you want?
 
!!doyouwant to get bonked on the noggin
 
4:23 PM
@mikeTheLiar Do you want to get bonked on the noggin? Because that's how you get to get bonked on the noggin.
 
user47589
lol
 
Howdy
 
user47589
What happened to sons 1-6?
 
They weren't fortunate.
Anyway...
I have a simple (?) jQuery UI problem haunting me. Any takers?
 
Besides, as we all know from Terry Pratchett, the eighth son is the powerful one anyway.
 
4:25 PM
I don't know who Pratchett is. Should I be ashamed?
 
Yes
 
user47589
there's also the JavaScript room.
 
OK, sorry thought I'd engage someone who's familiar with jQuery before firing off a long question....
 
Hmm, what I'm seeing on Bitbucket and what I'm seeing in my working copy are different. This worries me.
 
I have a jQuery Tabs control set up and I need to use a textbox in a tab. The keyboardNavigation or keyboard_shortcuts are hijacking the space bar for my input. I have tried 10 ways to attempt to disable the keyboard shortcut navigation feature without success.
Can I post short code here?
Or use pastwbin?
 
4:29 PM
Either one
 
I've heard of Lauren Pritchard!
K, code is this...
var tabs = $("#tabs").tabs();
tabs.find(".ui-tabs-nav").sortable
({
    axis: "x",
    stop: function () {tabs.tabs("refresh");},
    update: function (event, ui)
    {
        var sortData = $(this).sortable('serialize');
        $.ajax
        ({
            type: "POST",
            url: "Test.aspx",
            data: sortData
        })
    },

    keyboardNavigation: false,
    keyboard_shortcuts: "off"
});
Last two lines are some of the shorter methods I attempted.
Don't mind my cray indenting, Javascript drives me nuts otherwise!
 
so hijack them back. set an event that catches space inputs prevents default and adds a space to your focused input
but this is the most backwards way i've suggested to do anything ever in my life
 
I suck at JavaScript. Can you be more specific?
 
@misha130 you gotta do what you gotta do.
I've had to do shit like that before
 
If you google "jquery ui tabs keyboard navigation disable" I've gone through the top 3 pages, but it could be I'm simply implementing one of them slightly incorrectly. Because of the aforementioned sucking at javascript.
 
4:34 PM
$("input:focus").on("keypress",function (e) { if(e.keyCode == 8){ e.PreventDefault(); $(this).val($(this).val() + " "); } });
something like this
its not actual code but more of a direction
 
I tried it like this, appended after the code I pasted above.

$("#tabs input:focus").on("keypress", function (e) { if (e.keyCode == 8) { e.PreventDefault(); $(this).val($(this).val() + " "); } });
No luck.
Want to hear Lauren Pritchard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8A9Ys0wh5I
If I recall you guys don't frown on YouTube links do you?
 
nope, go for it
 
well do some tests to see if the event is fired and if the space key is found and if it stops the tab or not
name one good book by terry pratchett
 
OK, I tried this...

$(".tabTitleBox:focus").on("keypress", function (e) { if (e.keyCode == 32) { e.PreventDefault(); $(this).val($(this).val() + " "); } });

No luck
I tried removing the :focus also to no avail.
 
4:51 PM
 
No luck.
 
dude but if you click on the link and type space there is a message there saying terry pratchett sucks
 
the only mod I made to your code was $(".tabTitleBox")
 
oh
 
user47589
RIP Terry Pratchett
 
4:56 PM
o/
good afternoon, you ... you ...
 
@misha130 Adjusting the fiddle for my changes worked in your example, but not in my application. The jQuery UI must be overriding it.
 
user47589
you scoundrels
 
yea
scoundrels
 
user47589
I like a good scoundrel.
 
user47589
Especially the ones that shoot first.
 
4:58 PM
Rougish types
 
have you put it as the last executed script?
 
How is the only place near me with a fried chicken sandwich Wendys?
 
@misha130 Yes I believe so.
 
user47589
recoils from @mikeTheLiar in horror
 
@SeventhSon No, the idea doesn't work at all. Seems you can't preventdefault on input
 
5:00 PM
@Amy I'm unsure about the source of your horror.
 
good (ugt) night
 
good night
 
@misha130 You tried it inside a tab ?
 
@misha130 whats the default behavior for an input?
 
@misha130 @SeventhSon don't you need to also return false?
 
5:03 PM
like, you click a submit button on a form, the default behavior is the form submitting, you click on a link, the default behavior is going to the url, you enter text in a textbox, whats the default behavior that you want to prevent?
 
@SeventhSon if your elements are being created at run time they won't be there for the event registration
 
oh thats it? the delegation is the issue?
I just had no idea to be honest
 
ignored, noted
 
now i feel bad for saying nonsense
WELP
 
never feel bad for saying nonsense.
detecting nonsense is a critical life skill
 
5:14 PM
indeed
 
hi guys, anybody knows how to register a customer URI scheme in Windows 10?
That i.imgur.com/4tEnaNv.png works for me in W7 and W8 but does not in W10 though
 
5:26 PM
Here's the fiddle with the textbox in the tab in the tab.

https://jsfiddle.net/4okyfydm/1/
I tried asking the Javascript room, they told me to do my own homework. lol.
I tried this:

//options:
// {
// keyboard_shortcuts: "off",
// blur: null,
// focus: null,
// select: null,
// keyboardNavigation: false,
// },
Bit embarrassed to post everything I tried!
 
it makes me sad, that i can't change my vote after 5 minutes
 
some things i look back on and am just like 'why the hell did i vote that way'
 
@misha130 Trying this...
 
@SteveG Such is life as an American
Hey, apparently Ontario is getting basic income now.
 
5:33 PM
once you vote trump you can never go back
 
trump eats baby kittens
 
We have the best Trump.
 
for breakfast
adult cats for lunch
 
yep, even pours breakfast gravy on them
 
@SteveG he's tough on kittens
 
5:34 PM
"breakfast gravy" is an extremely strange concept to British people.
 
@misha130 YAY! Thank you so much!!!!
 
he's the BEST kitten eater, like ever, nobody is better than him at eating kittens
 
And it's gross I dunno how you people eat it.
 
There's a specific kind of gravy just for breakfast?
 
what's breakfast gravy btw
 
5:35 PM
@KendallFrey yes
it's what they put on biscuits and gravy
 
Is this a Southern thing?
 
 
!!google biscuits and gravy
 
5:35 PM
It's that
And it's fucking odd.
Also sausage = burger in England lol
 
that looks like shit, literally
 
how can you eat gravy for breakfast lads
 
Who jizzed on that biscuit?
 
its mmm mmm good
 
It's horrible imo
 
5:35 PM
biscuits (en-us) == scone/dumpling things (en-gb), btw
 
@misha130 I can't tell you how much I appreciate your effort. Whew!
 
Couldn't deal with it
 
i dont understand this insanity
 
SOOO good
 
Americans fucking love it though hahaha
 
5:36 PM
@SeventhSon dude its cool, I should've just helped you quicker though
 
@Squiggle Scone
 
because it has calories, anything with calories we love to drench over other stuff with even more calories
 
Literally.
 
@Sippy I think that's an overly broad generalization
 
Aight - Everyone in TN loves it.
 
5:36 PM
Biscuits and gravy are the best things about the South. Except for maybe southern belles!
 
@Sippy scone would be like a dessert biscuit or something?
 
that's invented by russian iirc
 
I went to Atlanta once and at the restaurant I went to it was an option to get that on pretty much every menu item.
 
@KendallFrey yeah you put cream and jam on it
or marmalade
 
I am russian and we invented mayo with fish for breakfast
 
5:37 PM
why would you jam on it
 
true story
 
@Sippy nah, American biscuits would be made with lard or somesuch. British scones use butter as the fat.
 
I eat food, not dance
 
Hey everyone.
 
@Squiggle Probably true
 
5:37 PM
i eat dance
 
I use butter when I make biscuits
 
Did I just get flagged
Why did I just get a popup message
 
you didn't say anything offensive
 
I never say anything offensive I'm perfect
 
lard? i mean, are you living in 90s?
 
5:38 PM
@Sippy people have been getting that all day in random rooms
 
How odd.
 
i say trump eats baby kittens == no flag.
Sippy says nothing offensive == flag
i like this
 
@tweray No he's living in America, where it grows natively
 
cheerio, friends. Pub time.
 
5:40 PM
Ooh, donut seeds!
2
 
lmao
 
corn seeds aren't shaped like corn. tree seeds aren't shaped like trees. flower seeds aren't shaped like flowers. why then...
 
corn seeds aren't shaped like corn?
 
no
hey why is @drch here
 
why shouldn't he be?
 
5:43 PM
i never said he shouldn't be
 
nobody asks why something is present, unless they believe something shouldn't be present
nobody wakes up in the morning, looks at the sun, and asks "hey, why is the sun here?"
maybe they do
 
@misha130 Hey I noticed that the code you provided always puts the space at the end of the text. Any way to fix it to allow a space to be inserted mid-text?
 
ill check
 
@misha130 ty
 
@SteveG maybe they ask why something is present because they want to know why it's present
y'know, english
 
5:49 PM
@SeventhSon @misha130 you can get the caret position and insert it there
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Q: Get cursor position (in characters) within a text Input field

MarkB29How could can I get the caret position from within an input field? I have seen a few bits and pieces on Google, but nothing bullet proof. Basically something like a jQuery plugin would be ideal so I could simply do $("#myinput").caretPosition()

 
thats what I am trying to do
cool
 
@SteveG they ask why am I look a you sun
 
This did it.

$(function () {
$(".tabTitleBox").on("keydown", function (event) {
event.stopPropagation()
})
});
 
welp
 
ty ty ty, going to have lunch now!
 

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