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5:47 AM
hi
 
 
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AMH
7:29 AM
@DeveloperX Hi
 
7:45 AM
hi all
 
AMH
@HarmeetSingh hi
 
@AMH @DeveloperX @DerkJanKarrenbeld @nokheat do u guys know about StreamInsight.
 
i am getting smtpclient time out exception . what i have to do ?
 
AMH
@sandeep am sorry I don't have any idea about it
 
should i increase the time out
@s
@sandeep no idea
 
7:47 AM
@icebat hi do u know abt streamInsight
 
any body
@AMH hi
 
8:04 AM
hi
 
hi any thing about timeout , how to control it if files are large
 
naming paralysis. I have a message consumer that consumes EnquiryReceived messages (which have the attached enquiry - firstname, lastname, email, interestedIn, referred) which job is to check the crm database to find a matching customer (ExistingCustomerSpecification - email matches, first 3 letters of firstname and last name - will be tweaked later) etc.
. and either create a new contact entry with new enquiry or append the enquiry to an existing customer, i know i shouldnt ponder over naming but I want to least keep the class name under 80 characters lol
 
8:26 AM
@AMH this is not related to me , sandeep asked it...
 
Good day, everyone!
 
8:55 AM
hello everyone
 
AMH
@yas4891 hi, how are u
 
hey @yas4891
 
Hi yas
how is everything going on
 
wranglin with Firebird and C#
 
9:22 AM
@DeveloperX doing fine. How are you?
@AMH Hi. I'm fine. How are you?
@AMH I've sent your information on to some ppl I know that work in Bioinformatics
 
doingwell
its ok cloudy sunny
 
@AMH but so far no replies.
 
AMH
@yas4891 thanks a lot , for that looking forward to hear from them ,
it's ,my dream to have phd in this field or work on it
 
 
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10:40 AM
hello people
Anyone here can help me with MD5 hashes, byte arrays and base 64 mess I've got ?
 
 
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11:53 AM
hi guys
i have a class like this
public class myItems
{
public string text { get; set; }

public int id { get; set; }
}
im trying to add
public string checked { get; set; }
but its not accepting "checked"
and i really need it to be "checked " not anything else
how can i do so?
 
hi just a quick question, is there a room for entity framework questions, i couldn't find any?
 
@astrocybernaute usually people use Pascal Case for properties, it will help you with checked
and you can use '@' symbol to use any name you like
@checked will work too
@uriDium you can create one
 
that's why you need a prefix @checked
its a bad idea anyway
 
12:11 PM
thanks
There appear to be no rooms like the one I want and I doubt anyone will be coming along shortly.
We are working with WCF on a SOA like implementation. We were wanting to use EF for our persistance layer but we have notice something rather annoying
when we want to update/delete an entity, all the examples out there have you select the entity first then update/delete it. This results in an extra call to SQL server to first select the object.
We want to avoid this, and I have found out that you can just attach the entity and set its state to modified. But is the best approach
Is it better to let the entity framework select the object again? What benefits are there?
 
12:56 PM
hi!
need help in memcached +.net mvc app
 
1:20 PM
good morning all
or good <whatever>
@EvgeniyLabunskiy do you have a specific problem?
 
Hi @akmad
I think its about his recent question
 
@username howdy!
oops... didn't look back far enough
 
ah, it seems that it was a few pages ago
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Q: NullReferenceExeption while get Data from Memcached (.NET)

Evgeniy LabunskiyHave problem while getting data from Memcached on .NET MVC solution. I have this custom repository: public List<DropDownLocalization> GetLocalization(string key, string lang) { var result = cacheClient.Get<IQueryable<DropDownLocalization>>("DD_" + key + "_"...

@EvgeniyLabunskiy am I right?
 
yes, you are :)
i tried to put data in List, Iq, Ie
 
and DropDownLocalization is serializable?
 
1:32 PM
any body knows about Aspect orientedprogramming
 
and are you sure the get is not null when it gets stored?
 
also, have you tried just pushing an array into memcache?
I don't have experience with Memcached specifically to help with the config
 
and DropDownLocalization is serializable?
yes...
and are you sure the get is not null when it gets stored?
yes, of course
i tied to connect to memcached using telnet and found that lable stored but null
have you tried just pushing an array into memcache?
will do now
 
also, can you cache an integral type like an int or string?
 
1:42 PM
yes, string works fine :)
looking into this: https://github.com/enyim/EnyimMemcached/issues/54
all should work
lazyloading is of course enabled. i thought that problem was that data not got from db and do be sure i made all .ToList()
solution found
:)
 
what did it?
 
solution: i'm an idiot :)
all was putted well, but in the global.asax at app_onstart i put the line to flush all from memcached. so when i comment the code to get data from db abd rebuild app it automaticaly destroy all data in memcached - as result Null exeption
 
1:57 PM
ahhh
heh
 
i will little bit refactor code and put updated version to my question
thanks a lot! all you helped me to find the problem! :)
 
2:37 PM
@username thank you :)
 
admin.aspx.cs if(TextBox1.Text == pass) .... <- client side
is it safety?
 
you should never send the actual password to the client
the client should send the password attempt to the server, where it is then validated
 
in asp.net form, i have a TextBox. User writing password into this TextBox.
And on server side : if(TextBox1.Text == pass)
 
ah, ok
if you are running over https that'll be ok
 
http
 
2:42 PM
if not you should really attempt to at least encrypt the password on the client side
but that's not really a full solution as anyone can decrypt that password enroute by looking at your client-side code... thus the general advice for https
 
this is for prevent http traffic interception ?
 
yeah, anyone could read a plaintext password on its way to your server
 
only i have access to webserver
Admin know the password. How can hacker listen his traffic by internet?
 
i'm not talking about the password for the webserver, I'm referring to the password that was entered in the textbox you mention above
once the user submits the form the values will be serialized and sent through the internets to your webserver
but it is not a direct connection from the client to your web server, there are a bunch of stops along the way (that's the way the web is designed to work)
each one of those stops could read that password because it is not encrypted
if you run the whole thing inside of a https session you get that encryption for "free"
 
Thanks)
 
2:55 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes howdy!
@GLeBaTi np
 
memcached answer updated: stackoverflow.com/questions/7951976/…
@RMartinhoFernandes hi :)
 
3:50 PM
Hi all. Can anyone suggest a lightweight solution for plugins architecture?
those plug-ins will be dependent on some interface in my application
from time to time I will change my application, but I don't want to update plug-ins if the changes are small (for example I can make a patch)
 
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Q: Click on any other cell while a cell of same row of datagridvew is in edit mode causes Operation is not valid reentrant call

jaminatorMy question is similar to below, except that i dont know whats the alternative. Why is my bound DataGridView throwing an "Operation not valid because it results in a reentrant call to the SetCurrentCellAddressCore function" error? When user finishes editing, the datagridview shoul...

i hate dgv
 
@username What are you looking for? Discovery? Isolation? Both?
MEF does a really good job on the discovery part. And it's pretty light.
It completely leaves isolation to you, though.
 
could you please describe what does isolation mean?
or is it something I should google first? :)
 
A simple/naïve implementation would just instantiate the plugins in the same domain as your application. This gives plugins the same set of privileges your application has.
Sometimes you don't want that.
In this architecture, if a plugin corrupts memory, for example, your whole process is dead.
 
they will be pretty much isolated
 
4:04 PM
If the plugins are run in a more controlled and separate environment though, plugins may crash and your application continue running nicely.
And they can run with lower privileges, if security is a concern.
The System.Addin namespaces provide isolation facilities. They're a bit more complex though.
Depending on what your application is, and what kind of plugins you're expecting, this may or may not be a concern.
 
ok, thanks for all information you gave me! actually I should give my plug-ins the same set of privileges as for the main application. They will do some operations with files, configure them and I will use them to retrieve some information too
 
Well, then, take a look at MEF. It's really simple.
 
ok, thank you
 
4:29 PM
Hi
 
Hey @DeveloperX
do you have a holiday today?
or is it @yas4891
 
Hi
it was for yas ,bank holiday i think
 
ah, yes
 
i had'nt
where r u from
ukrine
 
from Ukraine
 
4:37 PM
i think
 
right
 
yes still i have some memory
was it holiday i nukrine
is it ur name pavel ?
 
yes
 
how was the weekend pavel
 
we also have this holiday, but its not a national holiday
 
4:47 PM
aha
 
the weekend is good, I don't remember how it has ended
I only remember how I woke up and went to work
 
always we dont know how it ends up
 
yeah
 
most of weekends i play football , and swim
 
cool
sometimes I play football too, or basketball
but the winter is coming
I'll have to find something else
 
5:08 PM
yes in winter we play footsall in saloon
and swim in pool in warm water
 
 
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6:30 PM
@username yeah. I've got a holiday today. Catholic church thing
 
6:45 PM
hi
 
hi
 
AMH
@all hi
 
7:12 PM
hi all
 
hi
 
7:28 PM
hi akmad
do u know about aspect oriented
 
Hello everyone! Does anybody speak VB.NET ? If so could you please translate this answer's code from c# to vb.net: stackoverflow.com/questions/6117293/… ??
 
Should be something like:
Private Sub Wait(seconds as Double)
    Dim frame As New DispatcherFrame
    New Thread(CType(ThreadStart, Sub()
            Thread.Sleep(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(seconds))
            frame.Continue = false
    End Sub)).Start()
    Dispatcher.PushFrame(frame)
End Sub
Note: VB2010 only, I think.
Otherwise you may need to get the lambda out to a named method.
 
@DeveloperX I know about it... never used it in practice though
 
aha
thx
 
@RMartinhoFernandes the "New Thread" line is incorrect. Is this a Lambda?
 
7:40 PM
Yes.
 
O... strange syntax. Thanks!
 
If the version you have doesn't support it, you may use something like New Thread(AddressOf SomeMethod).Start() and put the lambda's code in a method.
 
7:56 PM
I'm having trouble determining whether ObjectContext.CreateObjectSet<TEntity>() actually creates the set every time from the data source, or whether it looks to the ObjectStateManager to obtain objects from the cache for subsequent calls
Any ideas?
 
Fire up your DB profiler and see if it makes queries.
 
good idea martino
 
Yep, that should do the trick :]
 
i do ,every time i wanna to check
 
@RMartinhoFernandes this is good advice in general with ORMs given the funky SQL that can be unintentionally generated
 
8:01 PM
Yeah, blindly trusting your ORM to always do the right thing will hurt you.
 
what do u guys think about new generation of programming languages
i mean next generation
 
what constitutes "next generation"?
 
i mean in 2020 decade,
or later
 
lol, how can we have an opinion on something that doesn't exist?
 
may we have big revlution
yes,but we can predict
 
8:06 PM
@robjb my opinion is that it'll be AWESOME
 
Ha.
 
like تules Verne
jules Verne
I think Nostradamus does'nt have any idea fter 2012!
 
I think anything that constitutes a "next generation" language will have to introduce some completely new ideas
If I could comprehend or surmise what they might be
I would be inventing such a language now :)
 
aha
 
my guess is that the upcoming languages will feature significantly better multi-threading workflows
 
8:12 PM
we should check what happens in companies lab,or pentagons lab
 
to make it really easy to split up tasks across our massively parallel computers/whatever
 
I would agree with @akmad on that point
 
i agree akmad
 
and will likely look more and more like LISP
:P
 
Languages will have to evolve to make parallelization easier for the programmer
 
8:13 PM
Lisp was gr8
 
@DeveloperX I think some would take exception to 'was'
 
may be the big revlution will be in the way we communicate between client and server
the clouds
 
@akmad I want to see more metaprogramming (à la LISP macros, but safer).
 
yes akmad
we will have more abstraction
 
do yall think we'll still be using C# version X or something totally different?
 
8:16 PM
i think something totaly difference
 
I also want to see better resource management.
I'm not very happy with the manual management we have nowadays.
using blocks are neat, but they're manual.
 
like delphi
also it depends what happens on operating systems
but i think we will work on clouds there will be no pc ,with local resources
like what we had before , like Mainframe consoles
 
Er, by resources, I mean, open files, network connections, database connections, that kind of thing.
 
may be next OS will be just a rich browser
 
The only resource you don't need to worry in C# is memory.
 
8:20 PM
hmm
in c# yes
but i think client side programming language will change in big
javascript should realy reviewed
 
@DeveloperX Have you heard of Chrome OS? It is just a rich browser
 
غثس
yes
 
I mean not really, it's based on a linux kernel
But from a UI perspective, it is
 
yes
i didnt work with android
is it i nsame way
is the chrome os will be compniation of Android and chrome browser
 
I haven't written anything for Chrome OS, no idea how development or underlying architecture is set up
Developing for Android involves a lot of Java
 
8:27 PM
i think microsoft should change his mind to make .net porable as java
but i think they afraid t olost their server market
 
@DeveloperX why bother? Mono already does this in the areas that matter
 
What @akmad said
 
not completely
 
Do we need another managed language for embedded systems?
 
there are many bugs if we going to run Enterprise c# app in linux
 
8:28 PM
Not completely?
 
do mono support all .net features?
does it
is it trustable
 
No, but the key phrase is "areas that matter"
 
It supports all features that are not Windows-specific.
 
i just heared from friends that they had alot of problem with mono
hmmm
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Except Entity Framework, that's not exactly Windows specific -- but hardly a deal breaker
 
8:31 PM
i.d check
 
@DeveloperX come on now... don't just parrot FUD, check it out for yourself!
 
what FUD means
 
@robjb It's a Microsoft product though (i.e. not in the spec)
 
:)
but i do
 
@DeveloperX Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
 
8:32 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes damn my slow typing!
 
I fixed a bug in the Mono C# compiler once :)
 
thx friend
nowim checking
great what was that
my project is totaly based on wcf and EF!
 
The /checked compiler option wasn't working.
 
god job
good
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it's fun when something you worked on gets into an OSS project
 
8:36 PM
yes it satisfies
 
I had a couple commits make it into the Castle ActiveRecord project
 
9:08 PM
:)
 
you mean threads and workflows will run automatically
 

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