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10:06 PM
@SanchezPanza when you say "hashtag" you probably mean "hash" or "number sign". The word "hashtag" refers to the tag comprising the hash character and the word that comes after. So you want to find hashtags in strings.
 
@Hakaishin its was just an example of a string that why its in quotes :D
@AndrasDeak thats exactly correct i want to fetch a word after the the hash/pound symbol
 
@SanchezPanza have you tried googling that? Seems like a common task.
 
@AndrasDeak jesus guys you so picky, im obviously gonna google how to use substing in pythin, just though if its such a common task you would be able to help a first hour python user with easy
 
Step 1. Look for a new question that suspiciously sounds like a duplicate
Step 2: google search and find the duplicate
Step 3: copy the answer instead of closing it
Step 4: ???
Step 5: profit for you, loss for us
 
@SanchezPanza nothing like the first hour to pick up the great habit of learning to solve common problems :) And I meant finding hashtags specifically. Presumably you've already read a python tutorial which covers substrings in general. If you haven't: go read a nice tutorial.
It's not that I can't help you. I can help you. I'm helping you.
 
10:13 PM
@AndrasDeak w3schools is good enough for me thanks, just need it for temporary fix (;
 
@SanchezPanza then you have a low bar
 
@SanchezPanza w3schools? Really?
 
w3schools is terrible
 
10:15 PM
He's helping you help yourself
teach a man to fish, all that jazz
 
@RoadRunner are there better solid resourser for python ?
 
FWIW googlefu skills are nothing to be scoffed at, half of your work at most IT jobs involve a fair amount of googling
 
@RoadRunner nah man w3schools is pretty good. Gotta give it some credit, so often I can query something in google and just copy paste some w3schools snippet which does exactly what I want
 
@SanchezPanza try to official tutorial
 
^^ ugh
 
10:17 PM
I feel like the future is already close, where I can just say the right words and get the working code :P
 
googling is like number one in any task lol, not only python
 
@Hakaishin we've seen plenty of terrible patterns and suggestions from w3schools. Just because there's some non-crap amidst the crap it's still overall crap.
 
@SanchezPanza exaaaaactly, which is why it's a good skill to cultivate as a first hour python learner :-)
 
@AndrasDeak huh, then I must be out of touch. But I use it more for html/js/css stuff, nearly never for python
 
@Hakaishin i saw this neural network preview on youtube that writes pretty complex python code, scary stuff :) soon it will get low level languages and then we are all domed
@cs95 oh stop being such a nag :)
 
10:19 PM
I've personally never used w3schools for python but I'd imagine a jack of all trades is a master of none
 
btw is there a shortform for html/js/css? Like hjc
 
@Hakaishin "web technology"
 
@Hakaishin I actively avoid it for front-end. I can only judge its quality by the things I'm familiar with, and it sucked on those. So I extrapolate and assume that it's going to be crap advice for front-end
 
@cs95 that is unfair to people with broad interests, but I see where you're coming from
 
Perhaps it's my bias, my first source is usually SO, not w3schools ;)
 
10:21 PM
ofc, so first but w3schools is top 5 for sure if not top 3
 
@SanchezPanza Don't make the beginner's mistake of confusing nagging with advice.
 
@Hakaishin why is it unfair?
 
see chat.stackoverflow.com/search?room=6&q=w3schools for earlier discussions of w3schools regarding python
 
@SanchezPanza have you tried looking at the official python docs?
 
@roganjosh Because I feel like it's not true
 
10:23 PM
Feel or know?
 
@cs95 how do you think I even wrote the program to a point where I need to substring a hashtag ? just by randomly tapping on buttons or googling about indentation and how to define function, for loops, ifs, etc lol?
 
A moment of silence for "python arrays"
 
well feel, what is knowledge anyways yadayada
 
Don't we deal with objective truths?
 
@RoadRunner that's what im doing now thanks
 
10:24 PM
Well let's keep the same words like cs95. I imagine :P
 
I don't really think this discussion is going anywhere, nor is it particularly constructive. So I suggest discontinuing it.
@SanchezPanza if there's anything you actually need our help with, you should read our rules and ask.
(and things that can be googled in one minute don't qualify as "need our help with")
 
@roganjosh If you wanna get into philo stuff check out: iep.utm.edu/red-ism/#SH1a It was a great read keeping me up at night :)
 
I'm having enough trouble sleeping as it is, but I'll add it to my tab collection :)
 
@MisterMiyagi Finally ended up putting them into some homemade jambalaya... mmm. Here's the recipe I followed
 
I thought it was spelled jambalaya
 
10:27 PM
ah, indeed it is
 
that explains it :)
 
wow, I've been propagating that misspelling for longer than I care to admit
potato, potahto
I didn't have the cajun spice mix so I had to improvise with bayleef and other spices at home. It comes out with a gentle flavour but that means there's more room for experimentation. I re-fried some of the leftovers with soy sauce and it turned out a lot like a chinese fried rice
 
haha, I'm just writing a small cooking app to track what I'm eating and to tell me what to eat next :P
 
@cs95 laurel
 
@Hakaishin You should integrate that into a smart fridge app. I'm sure there's a market for fridges that track your ingredient inventory and suggest purchases based on your diet and cravings
I think google assistant already does that for you in some capacity if you have a shopping list, haven't used that tho
 
10:34 PM
It needs to take into account the sell-by/use-by date too
I'm pretty sure it already exists but it's an IoT magnet for abuse
 
I would love to have such a smart fridge. I'm surprised they are not more common. Then again, they would somehow need to interface with the food products to get the date.
 
Hmm. If you let the fridge buy your food online (say prime now or carrefour, as an example) and those sites publish that information on their products, it should be easy to track
 
@Hakaishin there was talk about these fridges even ten years ago. I'm pretty sure they're out there. Just crazy expensive.
 
@cs95 Yeah, but who orders food online :O
 
hey! I do! These are pretty trying times :P
 
10:35 PM
@Hakaishin two months ago? Half the Western world.
 
haha I guess
 
I'd love something that warns me when my food starts to go bad.
 
there's a market for it, to be sure.
oof, yeah that's going to be an issue as long as companies don't invest in safety standards
 
@cs95 They're called "eyes" and you can use them whenever you open the fridge door :P Seriously, the cost/benefit of this tech just doesn't add up for me
 
10:40 PM
@roganjosh not, yet. not yet. just wait :)
 
@roganjosh you mean using a neural network? Great idea!
 
@roganjosh well that's how it's done today, but ain't nobody got time for that mate!
 
@cs95 I'll get my fridge arrested for influencing elections or something. Strange new world
 
let's take it a step further. Warn in advance when ingredients go bad, then suggest recipes based on your current inventory to finish them quickly.
recipe recommendations are a separate but related problem, would also seem like a fun one to solve
startup, anyone?
 
It's not new. I've been thinking about an off-grid fridge that has thousands of recipes for food you put in it. Problem being, you need to understand what's being put in the fridge
 
10:44 PM
indeed
 
I've been mulling over the idea that you can put on a Pi
 
@cs95 free money, anyone?
 
nothing is free in this world, sadly :-( if you aren't paying for something, you're the product being sold (old but gold)
 
But it's a yam to get the use-by/sell-by date (and they're different things) without relying on user-input
@AndrasDeak lol
 
@roganjosh let's see, if you know what the item is being put in, and you have a general database of how long it takes food to spoil at the fridge temperature, you could estimate those things
Although whether that food is organic, has preservatives, etc etc will be harder to gauge, that changes the best-by date
 
10:47 PM
Bull. What if you buy something in the discount isle?
 
use the neural network to correct for that
 
This is certainly non-trivial to solve without partnering with an online grocery merchant
 
The thing is this is even with most advanced ai and cameras a non solvable problem for 90% of the products. Because the label simply won't be visible. You would really need robot arms which would pick up each item and check and now we are into crazy territory :P
 
@roganjosh the assumption there being the food is fresh, so yes discount aisle food will not work :p
 
@cs95 I'm semi-serious about this, though, btw. I've thought a lot about it :)
 
10:49 PM
fresh products I find in a supermarket range from "expires 3 days from now" to "expires 3 weeks from now", depending on logistics
 
Did somebody say logistics? :P
 
You likely have, these are half baked thought experiments from my end
 
don't bring ovens into this...
 
The shelf life of half-baked loaves isn't too bad, actually :P
 
smart ovens are a whole different can of worms no one needs
 
10:53 PM
@roganjosh I've managed to buy a pack with some packaged mold once
 
@cs95 I've been pretty flippant but actually, the smart fridge (off-grid so without the dumb DDOS crap) and empty haulage are big issues in my mind. I'm already working towards the latter independently but I'm happy to have actual discussions
 
@AndrasDeak Wow, was it moulding in patches or completely unsalvagable? If it's on the brink you could remove the bad parts and turn it into bread pudding, should still be good to consume
"empty haulage"?
 
Just a tiny bit on one of 6 buns. I don't remember if we risked eating the other 5.
 
have fun discussing guys, see ya later
 
rbrb
 
10:57 PM
@cs95 trucks go one way to deliver products. What do they bring back when they return to base?
 
I see. Ideally, delivery would be bidirectional but you can't always guarantee business. I think the delivery cost accounts for that though
it's still suboptimal, I agree
I've seen cases where the supply chain companies subsidize the return journey to incentivize folks
BTW, for anyone curious, pandas 1.1 is currently in development with some cute new features. Support for missing data gets better with every release, which is great
 
@cs95 subsidise what?
 
the transportation fee for the return journey
 
That doesn't fill the container
 
What are we optimizing for, is my next question
 
11:03 PM
That's just money so you can drive your empty container back
@cs95 Mileage for goods
 
@roganjosh put the small truck in the large truck
 
In that case, you'd need to address the problem of a lack of demand, which seems to me a much harder problem to solve. Unless I'm misunderstanding
 
@cs95 mega problem
@AndrasDeak and drive them into a shipping container? It's so obvious now :P
 
see, talking it out always helps
 
Nah, I'm going for this. I'll either epically fail or, something
 
11:20 PM
wishing you the best :P
Who knows, if you succeed you become the next Elon. Or (even better) the first roganjosh.
 
Don't forget the name :)
 
11:45 PM
@roganjosh How can I, your name always reminds me of your culinary namesake
one day your culinary namesake will remind me of you
 
Lol on the link. I hadn't realised my name was a dish :P
 
@roganjosh what??
 
<sarcasm/>
 
oh phew. We've discussed this before, anyway :P
 
11:50 PM
Dec 5 '19 at 14:43, by roganjosh
A bit meta: I just ate my first ever Rogan Josh. Quite tasty, actually; I'd always assumed they were spicy.
 
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