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So I went to this place Nando's chicken today. You could only get this OR that, but not both.
 
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user10011505
01:09
Hello
user10011505
can someone help me with something in Django?
01:46
Hey @Arturo have you tried to ask on the main site, it may benefit the larger community? :)
user10011505
02:03
I fixed it :D
user10011505
Thanks
02:47
Awesome. :) What was the issue, might be interesting for others.
03:07
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54244407/is-there-a-way-to-make-a-leaderboard-with-several-json-files
Hi, I did not receive a complete answer here, it says an error that does not exist "xp"
@LucasTesch What's the problem? It looks like Kevin gave an answer
show me this error: discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandInvokeError: Command raised an exception: KeyError: 'xp'
I don't like doing this but it's not my choice. Please refer to the first point in "Asking a Question" for this room here (sopython.com/chatroom). Also, a KeyError is a standard Python error that you should try to debug; Kevin put in the time to code up your question, but he doesn't have total information. Please try to debug it yourself
I wouldn't expect answerers to install all dependencies, for example. You are getting a discord library error
Good luck :)
 
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04:41
hi all i'm new here. :D
04:57
SyntaxError: Non-UTF-8 code starting with '\xcf' in file /usr/local/bin/python3 on line 1
da faq?
 
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07:01
CBG
07:17
cbg
07:52
any reason django.urls's reverse is not called url_from?
I'd think it was a rushed or "temporary" decision, but maybe there's something else to learn here
08:13
@towc from django.urls import reverse sounds perfect to me, from django.urls import url_from, not so much.
cbg
08:36
@ChuckIvan question is 11 days old
09:12
@shad0w_wa1k3r but why? If I see reverse in the middle of the code, I think of something completely different
Maybe urls.from. I don't know if that's valid or conventional python, I'm on mobile
But it sounds much more sensible
Well, if you get used to it, you'll feel right at home :-p
Sure, but any specific reason why?
Or just "meh"?
I think you can use from django import urls and then do urls.reverse.
@towc Nope, not a clue. It's one of the hardest problem in programming, naming things.
But then why does the Django tutorial do it that way?
I guess I can ask them
or you can look it up
my guess is, the reason is just "meh"
09:16
But I'm just not experienced enough to see that maybe there's some good reasons
@towc from is reserved for syntax, so definitely not that. In python I've only seen class.from_type.
And native python only has reversed
commit d9c4af6b37b5c1d6e3afa4db35f4d60af5107c38
Author: Adrian Holovaty <[email protected]>
Date:   Tue May 16 04:05:55 2006 +0000

    Added first stab at reverse matching to urlresolvers.py

    git-svn-id: code.djangoproject.com/svn/django/trunk@2910 bcc190cf-cafb-0310-a4f2-bffc1f526a37
@towc this is probably the very first commit towards reverse github.com/django/django/commit/… So, like I said, the reason is just the dev's wishes.
 
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recbg
 
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11:44
Python 3.8.0a0 (heads/master:dfc8bb987d, Jan 28 2019, 09:19:41)
[GCC 7.3.0] on linux
>>> (a := 1)
1
>>> a
1
🎉
Maybe it'd make sense to write a preemptive canonical for "Am I using assignment expressions correctly here?" since the pep is a bad resource for that kind of question.
Probably around the time the 3.8rc is released
12:01
yes
gosh, i cant wait for that assignment expression stuff to hit main release
@ParitoshSingh then build your own python, done.
haha. lets just say it might take me a few lifetimes to build something as good as python
@ParitoshSingh ... git clone, configure --prefix /else/where, make && sudo make install
o.o
is that how python is installed internally?
(or well , i guess it might be on linux distros)
12:07
no.
that is how one builds a bleeding edge release on Linux, Mac.
On windows idk how but I know the other ingredients besides the sauce are blood, tears, sweat and lots of curse words
haha
touche
@AndrasDeak I knew that but the second condition is 'hasn't received a useful response.' Maybe that''s subjective and I should have left it alone but I thought he got a good answer. Sorry
I smelled Garlic
12:29
Cabbage
@Antti Sorry for the delay. Do you still have the issue with the hammer script?
@poke nope, seems to work now that I forcefully updated it!
thanks
Really odd, but I’m glad it’s working now :)
I am thinkign about forking it though, I don't mind the colour being more prominent :P sth like slightly tinted background + border around the entire item...
I tried to reproduce it on my side before with your data but couldn’t get it to work, so I would had to debug it together with you. But guess we don’t need to do that now :)
If you have a good idea (that doesn’t look horrible), feel free to give me a suggestion :)
I am not sure if there was some issue with aran-fey's duplicate manager
I don't mind it looking "horrible", it is a tool :d
lemme test
12:33
A tool can still fit in nicely with the UI :P
ah I mean...
so when I choose the item
then it will show the "heads up", but have the item in the list with the "heads up" style... but I kinda forgot that it does display the heads-up item later on.
or perhaps yellow.
but yea, perhaps the heads-up alert is enoguh
now we just need to convince aran-fey to fix the duplicate manager for GM :P
“but yea, perhaps the heads-up alert is enough” – So no changes necessary after all? ^^"
Well, not at the moment
Okay :D
Is the Duplicate Manager broken on GM?
This looks like it should have GM compatibility: github.com/Aran-Fey/SE-duplicate-manager/commit/…
13:01
it still threw sth.
hmm there is a new version, let's see...
error: this method is abstract StackExchange duplicate manager:3091:23
hemm only, there is no such line?
13:36
@Antti What Firefox version do you use?
@LucasTesch Feel free to ask your question again, if you think you've had a good go at it and you're stuck. I don't make the rules and apparently don't understand them. Sorry
@AndrasDeak I may have messed up. I'll leave room rule enforcing to you
14:34
and that the Post.from_element does not get the same Post as this
there is both a closure and some kind of global hax
\o cbg
@poke this if fails "even if it shouldn't" github.com/Aran-Fey/SE-userscript-lib/blob/master/…
14:53
Hi guys, I'm failing to hit the return button or click to login on a page using selenium ? This is the xpath for the button /html/body/div[2]/div[2]/div[5]/div[3]/div/div :( This is the html code for the button : <div style="position: absolute; overflow: hidden; white-space: nowrap; text-decoration: inherit; left: 20px; width: 61px; top: 2px; height: 15px;">Anmelden</div>
Might be that the website is blocking selenium or smth like that ? I'm trying to log in to a time tracking page
I don't think websites usually go out of their way to block selenium specifically. Either they disallow bots entirely or they don't. If you're not getting an HTTP error on the first request, it's probably fine.
@Kevin thank you ! I can fill up the credentials through selenium, but like I said I can't make it to click or hit the return button :(
I'm getting : selenium.common.exceptions.NoSuchElementException: Message: no such element: Unable to locate element: {"method":"name","selector":"Anmelden"}
Strange that the error message would include the contents of the div it supposedly can't find. Is your code searching for a tag containing the text "Anmelden"?
my code looks like this : element3 = driver.find_element_by_name('Anmelden')
element3.click()
I think that would only work if the element had a name attribute of "Anmelden". Unfortunately, your div doesn't have a name attribute at all.
15:03
@Kevin that's true !
there's a way to still click on that button ?
I tried to find the x,y coordinates
also didn't work :(
I'd be inclined to try find_element_by_xpath next
I did tried that : element4 = driver.find_element(By.XPATH, '/html/body/div[2]/div[2]/div[5]/div[3]/div/div').click()
no error but also no click of a button or return
I'm not too familiar with Selenium but I wouldn't be surprised if element4 there was None, assuming that click() always returns None.
If you wanted to get a reference to the button and click it, that would be best done on two lines: element4 = driver.find_element(By.XPATH, '/html/body/div[2]/div[2]/div[5]/div[3]/div/div'), followed by element4.click()
@Kevin lemme try
But it's troublesome that click() isn't doing anything. Putting it on its own line won't change that. Maybe this is happening because the button is a div. Ordinary buttons are usually <a> or <input>.
15:08
[Finished in 3.0s] but still no luck
lemme paste the whole thing for the button
you were right ! <div tabindex="11">
and the xpath is /html/body/div[2]/div[2]/div[5]/div[3]/div but still no luck :(
I can see that it kinda try to click but it doesn't actually doing it
@AnttiHaapala nooooo make install. make altinstall
@ChuckIvan well it's questionable when a question gets largely rewritten and there's an existing answer, and we could argue that OP should try communicating with their answerer first, but that doesn't really have to do with the rules here. Just common courtesy.
Normally when someone asks "how come my bot can't find/follow this link?" the answer is usually "because the element is created by javascript, so it's not accessible just by looking at the static HTML" but I am led to believe that Selenium specifically is pretty good at working with dynamically created elements. So I don't have that explanation to fall back upon.
@AnttiHaapala That behavior is correct. See my reply on the issue.
If I were working on this I would try to identify exactly how the link works in a regular browser. On an ordinary web page, clicking on a div does nothing unless the developer defined its behavior some other way. So that's what we're looking for. Does the div have an onclick method that redirects the page? Does it quickly insert the div inside an <a> tag when you're not looking? Something like that.
@Kevin Interesting ! Thank you for trying to help me solve this issue. How I check if it inserts the div into an <a> tag ?
15:24
Most browsers have dev tools that let you view the page's tag structure in real-time. If an <a> really is magically appearing, it might appear for a half-second in there.
Not that I seriously expect that to be what's happening. It's the wackiest way of implementing a link that I could think of.
@Kevin, it's happening way to fast for me to be able to catch it :(((
Or it's not happening at all. I'd say there's a 0.1% chance that it's doing what I half-jokingly suggested
@Kevin it was worth a try though :(
@poke yes, so it seems.
@poke not really knowledgeable of the intricacies of class, but makes sense that it'd altogether behave like function.
@AndrasDeak I had prefix
@AndrasDeak notice that installing to /usr is not safe whatsoever...
15:48
@AnttiHaapala phew! My bad :D
@AndrasDeak will pollute stuff and whatnot
16:37
I don't think I've had issues with my 3.7 but I'm OK with not recommending the practice
Hmm, do http-interfacing libraries typically respect the Windows hosts file, or do you need to do that manually if you want it?
I think that access to Windows hosts file happens at a lower level on the network stack than the libraries, so entries there should be respected, without any special coding on your part
That's what I thought, too. A recent question on the site had me second-guessing myself.
16:53
@AnttiHaapala Yeah, it has the same behavior
17:30
@AndrasDeak it will b0rk when you upgrade the system :D
probably
Well my system is already borked :/
18:07
I’ve never had Swedish meatballs but have had sweet-ish meatballs, those little cocktail meatballs that have a sugary sauce...
I posted that video starting at the timestamp for the "bork bork bork" reference
Yeah I know, I had to google what bork meant and then decide if I actually knew what constitutes Swedish meatball specifically. I did not.
what part of the world are you from?
18:22
Inner Earth but clawed my way to the surface recently
Jk, Texas
18:42
I only ask because I thought that "borked" was a common term in English. Perhaps its a generational thing /shrug
I only hear techies use it.
And anyone making doggo memes, but that's a different etymology
https://flothesof.github.io/kaggle-whats-cooking-machine-learning.html

I am reading this blog and i did decision tree algorithm and i am getting result.

now i am taking test file and trying to get the acuaraccy..

I am getting following error

Number of features of the model must match the input. Model n_features is 3010 and input n_features is 2246


cv = CountVectorizer()
X = cv.fit_transform(df_train['all_ingredients'].values)

X.shape
(39774, 3010)

and then i am X_train, X_test, y_train, y_test = train_test_split(X, y, test_size=0.2)
Oh it could quite well be common. My slang parser has always sucked
sorry for long msg ,can anybody help me
@sunil Try to actually understand the code. It will take long, but it will be worth it
The error message is actually quite instructive
18:52
true but test file have different dimension when it get transform
what can i do then
?
19:06
Can anybody spot codecs.unicode_escape_decode in official documentation?
@sunil Difficult to answer without knowing what it means to transform this data. I'll bet something like reshape() will get rid of the error, but that doesn't mean you are doing the right thing. Perhaps there is an option to fit_transform() which does not collapse out some of your features.
And that is already more than I actually know about this code, so I can be of no further help (assuming this counts as help).
@sunil Also I think you have trained the model with x number of features and are now providing a feature matrix for testing that has y number of features. The tutorial reads: "encode our features to a matrix that the machine learning algorithms in scikit learn can use" this is done with X = cv.fit_transform(df_train['all_ingredients'].values)
@thefourtheye zero relevant hits with the google query unicode_escape_decode site:docs.python.org. I don't think it's in there.
Interesting.... But both Python 2 and 3 show this
>>> codecs.unicode_escape_decode
<built-in function unicode_escape_decode>
ok i am trying
thannks
:)
19:12
@sunil you use test_X = cv.fit_transform(test_d['all_ingredients'].values) to define features. The length of test_d['all_ingredients'].values and df_train['all_ingredients'].values must be equal
My guess is, somewhere in the docs there's a sentence like "this decode() method may be prepended with the name of the codec you wish to use, for example unicode_escape or utf_16"
Oh... There are two Codecs called unicode_escape and raw_unicode_escape. No other mention of unicode_escape in both Python 2 and 3.
Very curious now.... Why would we not document something like this? GitHub has a lot of hits though... So, obviously its a very common thing....
cbg
I see you're taking a day trip to the land of "how does this common problem have such a poorly documented solution?", a place I visit so often, they ought to build a statue of me in the town square
Having formatting trouble? Consult the starboard >>>
@Kevin, thanks, yes, I'm fixing that
19:23
TLDR: try ctrl-k or the "fixed font" button
I have a simple question. In the code below, is there a way I could avoid the else condition for the default value of x=1? I mean an else should not be required to encapsulate a default value.

>>> def a(x=1):
>>>     if x==2:
>>>         print("Yay!")
>>>     else:
>>>         print("Nay!")
Early return, perhaps? Then the second print only occurs when the conditional fails.
def a(x=1):
    if x == 2:
        print("Yay!")
        return
    print("Nay!")
wim
wim
anyone got a dupe for str.replace ? I accidentally close voted wrong reason, retracted, and now can't vote again
Of course, neither this nor your original solution guarantee that "Nay!" will only be printed when the default value is used. It will also be printed when the user calls a(3), for instance.
wim
wim
ahh never mind, it's hammered. by same guy who answered it?!
19:27
@Kevin, Yes, a(3) will also print "Nay!"
Answering and then hammering is not unheard of. I wonder if there's an argument on meta about it...
Then how do I make explicit that only pne of two values be used: 1 or 2
def a(x=1):
    if x not in {1,2}:
        raise ValueError("x can only be 1 or 2")`
    if x == 2:
        print("Yay!")
        return
    print("Nay!")
wim
wim
could do with a few delvotes on the tail of crap there too Change one character in a string?
def a(x=1): print({1:"Yay", 2:"Nay!"}[x]) if you don't mind it raising a KeyError instead of a ValueError
wim
wim
19:30
common misconceptions for people coming from other languages (thinking strings are like arrays in Python, but they're actually more like numbers)
@Kevin, Yes, that's it! But this was just a toy example. Do we need to this kind of explicit play for all sorts of code that only accepts 2 or 3 values and restricts the user to use only one of these?
Guys, please have a look on this code:
I am new to python, and here I am able to print but content is not moving...

device_list = ['Mobile', 'Desktop']
final_d = {}
for elem in device_list:
d_metric = dict()
d_metric[elem] = d
for ad_col in mydb['ads'].find({'Device': elem}):
for di_col in mydb['dailyInsights'].find({'_id': ad_col['Ad ID']}):
metric_sum(elem) # function to add metric values
print d_metric
final_d[elem] = d_metric

So here, the 'print d_metric' statement is printing fine but final_d variable is having
It's easier with bools, if a:
Ideally final_d should have all previous values
I might be inclined to use a boolean for an argument that can have only two values. And I might use an enum for an argument with a finite number of legal values.
@Shivanshu The code looks alright to me, other than the missing indentation. There's not much more I can say without an MCVE.
19:36
the code I'm working on cannot have bool args just 1 or 2. enum is good but it needs a class def and looks more suitable for more no. of finite values..I think I'll settle with your previous code for now. Thanks.
Okay, so below is the detail:

d_metric = {u'Tablets with full browsers': {'Conversions': 12.0, 'CTR': 1.46, 'Cost': 103373291, 'Avg_ CPC': 29363244, 'Avg_ position': 388.1, 'Clicks': 312, 'Impressions': 36364}}

{u'Mobile devices with full browsers': {'Conversions': 26.0, 'CTR': 0.01, 'Cost': 251986582, 'Avg_ CPC': 77335988, 'Avg_ position': 1150.2, 'Clicks': 690, 'Impressions': 78534}}

but final_d variable has:

{u'Tablets with full browsers': {u'Tablets with full browsers': {'Conversions': 40.0, 'CTR': 0.01, 'Cost': 384135346, 'Avg_ CPC': 113069215, 'Avg_ position': 1936.8, 'Clicks': 10
Last value of d_metric (not fully posted here) is copied to every dictionary of final_d
I see python 2 code. Why is there python 2 code. :P
recbg
I accept code from any version as long as it's minimal, complete, and verifiable
actually, the mixture of unicode strings and bytestrings is a bit weird
19:53
As long as I get a minimal, complete, and verifiable example, I am happy to work with code that mixes unicode and bytestrings. But it does have to be minimal, complete, and verifiable.
Python 2 will be like the BAckstreet Boys of music..famous but long gone into the past...
20:15
Hmm, I'm trying to warn away the OP of Why does isinstance fail on a check for None for classinfo? from using x == None, but I can't find a citation from the official docs or PEP 8. I didn't just imagine this rule, did I?
pythonic check would be x is None
I know. But who decided that would be Pythonic?
I will accept a quote from GVR or anybody with more than a hundred commits to the python main branch
"Comparisons to singletons like None should always be done with is or is not, never the equality operators."
Written by GVR. Requirements satisfied :-)
20:20
I was looking at that document before, but I was one paragraph lower than I needed to be.
But why not == ?
Because is was very sad that nobody ever used it
Oh, poor is. Toughen up's what I say
If I were the dictator I'd have half a mind to strike is from the language along with id(). You're not cleared for pointer-level information, comrade
as for why you should use is, there are a few really good reasons. Firstly, None is a singleton, you want to ensure there is one and only one of it.
20:25
"But what about use cases X Y and Z where is is essential?" you ask. No matter. I will simply have those labeled as "not something you should want to do in the first place"
things that pretend to be None should not count
wim
wim
Seems the only real downside of using val == None is that hundreds of people will tell you its wrong.
secondly, its efficient. checking if two references point to the same object is solid
thirdly, things might break apart on custom __eq__ implementations with a None
since == essentially checks if there is an eq method implemented and whatnot.
Ok makes sense. Turns out if x: when deciding if something is not none is also inadequate.
Meh. If someone really really wants their object to behave like None, I say let 'em. If someone wants to spend an extra millisecond comparing objects instead of addresses, I say let 'em. If someone wants to write a buggy __eq__ implementation that can't handle Nones, I say let 'em
20:28
lol Kevin
wim
wim
If someone has a custom __eq__ implementation then it seems more of an argument against is than for it.
Footguns for everybody
wim
wim
You should want the custom __eq__ to be invoked.
An __eq__ that is never called is safe, but that is not what __eq__s are for
i should also say, i do think having "some" very rudimentary access to the "metal" so to speak in the form of is and id can help people new to programming see the broader picture. or atleast have a segue to memory allocation and whatnot
20:32
id is a red herring
being able to show someone new to programming that two objects really are the same can really help drive the point home.
wim
wim
on the contrary, people new to programming get needlessly distracted by such implementation details
If I had a nickel for every conversation about "how come id() acts in a way I don't understand?" that went for longer than fifteen minutes...
>>> id((1,2,3))
139981289149784
>>> id((3,4,5))
139981289149784
my experience has been different. i mean, i do "see" both sides
wim
wim
20:35
subsequently getting thoroughly confused by a string or int interning, or memory re-use by immediate ... Kevin'd
Or those cases where comparing a small integer value to another small integer value with "is" -> It Works! I'll Do All My Int Compares With "is" From Now On!
but my personal experience has been positive around is and id
Concept: Python should disable interning until you unlock it after 100 hours of use
you need to put your right hand on your heart and solemnly swear to use and expect interning when firing up the interpreter
awesome application for IoT
"Alexa, fire up python 3.7 and make it intern this time"
Every integer literal will be a brand new object and addresses will never ever get reused. If your program eats up all the memory, you were probably doing something wrong anyway.
20:37
pypy laughs in our face
"Alexa, get tensorflow to python 3.7 please :( "
Let's be real, you're implementing FizzBuzz, you don't need the whole gigabyte
huh, mine doesnt seem to reuse addresses.
I'm going to blame... [throwing dart at board]... The operating system
woo windows!
ah interesting. it does reuse the address on the command line in python interpreter
but not on my ipython
20:41
Now that I think about it, a nickel for every 15 minute conversation is far below minimum wage. This was a bad deal.
Interesting that definition 4 is labeled as "BRITISH" when it wouldn't be out of place here in NJ to say "I'm marking the students' tests". On the other hand, "I got poor marks on the test" would be considerably less common.
"I got poor marks on the test" wouldn't be common near me either. We would say "low marks" and that would be common.
21:07
Strange, where I’m from it’s common to say “Professor is a jerk” rather than “I got poor marks”
@AndrasDeak I'm not so sure. They want to reverse the letters of the sentence but fit it to the word-lengths of the original sentence when reading left-to-right
punctuation, capitalization?
They are the same. It's not a great question, granted
NB lack of clarity is to a point subjective
21:23
cbg
So apparently matplotlib is insecure now because numpy has a potential exploit via pickle?
Where is this from?
@toonarmycaptain I'm not familiar with that site, but matplotlib would only be unsafe if it's implicitly pickling things and you're unaware of the exploit?
Technically if you have matplotlib you have matplotlib.numpy. Run away, women and children first!
I'm confused anyway, I thought pickle was already known as exploitable?
21:32
@roganjosh yes
I think the point is that numpy shouldn't use pickle (and I didn't know it did)
@roganjosh Is it? I don't know all that it's doing under the hood under heavy loads. Not that I'm using it for anything heavy, but I hadn't seen it mentioned in here.
Unless I'm missing something, my concern level is about 0.5cm of an eyebrow raise
@toonarmycaptain no, I don't think matplotlib is unpickling files that could be tampered with without you actually asking it to do something like that. That is to my knowledge
Numpy doesn't load anything from a file unless you tell it to. Matplotlib even more so. You need to be careful if you open files which come from untrusted sources or could've been meddled with.
Pickling is used for object arrays. In that case you had it coming :P
I hope allow_pickle=False will soon be made the default as per the comments on the issue. That should fix it.
@roganjosh I wasn't concerned. Nothing I'm using it with accesses the network in any case, so if this exploit is being used, the user probably has much bigger problems.
"So apparently matplotlib is insecure now" is a pretty big statement :P
No different really than saying Python is insecure because it also can suffer issues from pickle files, or people using eval on user input etc. I wouldn't be concerned if I were you unless you're doing risky things in the first place :)
Although it does raise a question - can you know if a file is a pickle beforehand?
21:44
but evil pickles are only a pickle if you unpickle them, yes?
Quite the pickle indeed
heh, s/only a pickle/only a problem/
@roganjosh True enough. Although my project builds aren't being failed because of Python being insecure, but they are because of this. :p
@toonarmycaptain ooooh, ok. Now that's a different thing and one I'm not familiar enough with. I was being too light-hearted about it, sorry
@toonarmycaptain I'm curious about what exactly fails?
Seems like something I should have at least cursory knowledge about
21:59
@roganjosh No offense taken at all :) Mild annoyance on my part for my PRs not passing all their tests.
@roganjosh I have snyk.io set up for my projects, and, until now for seemingly sensible reasons, I have it set up in Github as one of the tests that needs to pass for a PR/commit to my master or development branches to be accepted.
Thanks for the link, I'll have a read about it.
aloha 2 u all
hello
@toonarmycaptain I assume you've seen snyk.io/docs/ignoring-issues?
@roganjosh I hadn't gotten there yet..., but thanks!
I'll be looking tomorrow. Rhubarb all.
22:47
hi all
hello
23:37
@jpp apparently racing you to an answer seems like too much hard work :P stackoverflow.com/questions/54411516/…
23:52
cbg
I can relate. For the first month I started Python I was constantly in disbelief how there could be an enormous, man-eating snake crammed into my computer. Then I just learned to accept this as an irrefutable fact and moved on.
jpp
jpp
@roganjosh, Haha, not the best answer probably that one.
But I think what the guy's asking is a genuine question, so I left what I hope is a helpful comment.

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