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15:02
Getting extreme lazy college senior vibes off that last frame... Or is that the joke?
stop posting random image macros with no context
So I got Three Body Problem from the library on Saturday and I read 300 pages in the time between then and now, which I guess means I'm enjoying it
That bad, eh?
Eh... I googled, Three Body Problem, first link to wiki was to a science problem; it got me confused on why you checked out a book about a science problem. second link was The Three Body Problem which was to the book.
Miniscule spoilers: in the book, the main character tries to solve a mystery which is essentially "Q: why does this chaotic behavior occur? A: The three body problem" and it takes him like ten chapters, despite the fact that he has to log onto "3body.net" every time he wants to gather clues. I feel that the url right there is a really really big clue, y'know, because it's 66% of the answer.
Granted, it's reiterated that he's not an orbital physics kind of guy, but he is a nanomaterials engineer, so you'd think there'd be a smidgen of STEM cross-pollination going on. Never stumbled on that particular Wikipedia article, I guess.
Do they have Wikipedia in China? The book takes place in China. Maybe that's why.
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15:14
Morning cabbage.
\o DSM, how was your weekend?
Wikipedia says, "as of June 2015, both encrypted and un-encrypted Chinese-language Wikipedia are blocked."
Did you celebrate the new Lunar new year?
I'm not sure when the book actually takes place. I think it's supposed to be "present-ish", but then they talk about, like, haptic feedback suits as if they're commonplace.
cbg DSM
15:18
Wait Kevin, I just notice that book is a 302 page book. Why didn't you just finish it ?
@MarcusS cbg \o Marcus, I hope you had a good lunar new year celebration
@MooingRawr Twas good -- you?
@MooingRawr Maybe different editions have different font sizes. Mine is 400 pages.
It's paperback if that matters
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@MooingRawr: fine, though didn't accomplish very much. @PM2Ring: ah, well..
if all(c in set(ascii.upper_case) for c in the_string)?
Maybe set.issuperset is faster?
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15:22
@MarcusS: that code would construct a new set for each character.
@MarcusS had a really fulfilling dinner, was a blast, got to see some friends. Overall was a nice change of pace to the 9-5 grind.
@MarcusS I haven't timed it, but I'd hope it's faster to use set.issuperset.
I'm guessing there's a reason we're not doing return my_string.isupper()?
Ah, probably because there are unicode characters that are uppercase that aren't A-Z, yeah?
@Kevin hmmm, Looking it up, the original Chinese version is 302 pages amazon.com/Three-Body-Problem-Chinese-Cixin-Liu/dp/7536692935 while the translated version is 412 pages, amazon.ca/Three-Body-Problem-Cixin-Liu/dp/0765382032 Make sense though
@MarcusS I'm pretty sure that set.issuperset doesn't bother creating a set of its arg (but even if it does, it can do that at C speed), and it should be faster than doing an explicit Python loop.
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15:25
Even if we only restrict to < 256, we get non-A-Z:
>>> ''.join(filter(str.isupper, map(chr, range(256))))
'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖØÙÚÛÜÝÞ'
Unless I'm missing something, seems to work ok on my end?
How do we feel about all("A" <= c <= "Z" for c in my_string)
@Kevin the question isn't "why is it like this" (except on a philosophical level), it's "how do we escape it".
cbg
does anyone know how can I find the math library on github for python ?
I just assumed everyone understood what the problem was and took the games as an extended side story.
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15:26
@MarcusS: are you using an ancient Python?
@Kevin probably slower, as comparisons are. Would be faster than the in, though.
It's very readable, but I'm sure any solution that has an explicit Python loop is less efficient than one that avoids that. OTOH, readability can trump speed.
Python 3
@SimeonAleksov you can find it on your hard drive, with >>> import math; print(math.__file__)
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@MarcusS: what string do you get with my command?
15:28
@SimeonAleksov alternatively you go to the cpython github press t and then start typing math.py (or maybe math.c)
print(''.join(filter(str.isupper, map(chr, range(256)))))
#ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖØÙÚÛÜÝÞ
print(set(string.ascii_uppercase))
#{'M', 'E', 'K', 'I', 'Z', 'A', 'L', 'J', 'P', 'Q', 'W', 'C', 'O', 'V', 'F', 'U', 'S', 'X', 'N', 'R', 'B', 'T', 'Y', 'D', 'H', 'G'}
@Wayne It says math has no attribute file
I will try now
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@MarcusS: yeah, that's what it should do. Maybe I'm not following: what were you referring to by "seems to work ok on my end"?
oh, treating ascii_uppercase as a set
def is_all_uppercase(my_str):
    s = set(string.ascii_uppercase)
    return all(c in s for c in my_str)
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I never said your genexp wouldn't work, I said "that code would construct a new set for each character" -- your function avoids that problem..
15:30
@davidism I did consider the possibility that the main character knew about the three body problem and withheld his knowledge of it until the 3body.net society progressed to a point similar to when it was discovered in our own society, but that seemed like a more elaborate explanation than "he just doesn't know about it"
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I wonder if knowledge of dynamics would be an impediment to my enjoying the book.
Although to be fair you can also point Occam's Razor in the other direction by framing it as: "what's more likely? That a scientist didn't know about a well-established problem in an adjacent field? Or that nerds tend to value verisimilitude while larping?"
@DSM the book is pretty near the "hard" end of the "soft/hard scifi" spectrum*, if you're concerned about being annoyed by inaccuracies.
(*at least for the 75% of the book I've read so far)
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It's not so much inaccuracies -- I'm notoriously bad at noticing details anyway -- as that there's a habit of people putting enormous philosophical weight in books on bits of math and physics that they can't really bear.
Haha well some of the book takes place during the Cultural Revolution, where multiple characters make direct correlations between scientific theories and political ideologies. "The theory of relativity is reactionary propaganda", kind of thing.
(Not a spoiler because it's in the first ten pages)
"Cant find parking spot, Drives home" :D
15:39
Interesting -- on my end, one method overtakes the other around n = 8
That doesn't stop either. Part of the series is always how politics co-opts science and history to tell its own story, and how the reaction is usually for the worse.
guys, what do you do if someone at work keeps reverting changes you made to fix things? I feel like people will think I am doing nothing because I keep fixing fixes someone else made for my fixes
Talk to the person?
Yeah. I LOLed at view spoiler, in part because it was treated as a dead-serious problem
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Did they revert both code and tests?
15:42
@DSM nah as in I put something in because it doesn't make sense. They make a new commit that effectively changes it back. I ask why and they say that it works better. But I put it in there because there was a use-case where it was broken
@Kevin how far is 300 pages in the book? Has it been established what the game is really for?
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Then make a test for that use case. At least then you'll be arguing about whether or not the use case is worth supporting, which is a reasonable argument to have, and not getting into a revert war.
Yeah. I got as far as view spoiler
@corvid always document what you do. Open an issue describing the problem, then reference it in your commit. Add a test that will fail.
What do you mean by add/make a test for it? write code that calls your fix or manually go test the system if you have an environment set up? If it's the latter do you just write out what you did in the comments? Just wondering how different companies do things.
15:56
There are signs that my office is finally getting around to implementing automated testing. Up until now the testing process has just been "have QA click on all the buttons on the page that had the bug" which isn't great for identifying regressions
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Depends on the nature of the problem, but most code (except for certain kinds of live situations) can be tested without manual intervention.
As an example, NumberFirm has certain physical devices which require certain magical rituals to be performed before some code will run, and so we can only test some processes manually. I can mock everything around it, but an actual integration test requires some real-world work.
@MarcusS Do you mean all(c in s for c in my_str) is faster when s is a string vs a set for len(my_str)<8 ?
The project is a CRUDdy web app so a large amount of the code either interfaces with the DB or renders information to the page or both, so very little can be tested without mocking up adjacent resources, which nobody has bothered to do yet
@PM2Ring As in, the issuperset() method is faster than the all() method for n <= 8 or so, and slower past that
I was testing these two:
def is_all_uppercase(my_string):
    uppercase_set = set(string.ascii_uppercase)
    return all(letter in uppercase_set for letter in my_string)

def is_all_uppercase_superset(my_str):
    return set(string.ascii_uppercase).issuperset(set(my_str))
@MarcusS Wow! That is unexpected. Is the all method using a string or a set of the alphabet?
16:02
I have long wondered whether I could alter my coding style to reduce coupling so that the "total surface area" of modules is minimized, but I've never been able to come up with really concrete approaches
(unless I made some silly error somewhere in how I implemented these)
Other than readability, is there another point of having a right join and a left join in sql? Like if I wanted a right join with a left join couldn't I just write the order of table reversed?
@MarcusS Try the superset way without converting my_str to a set.
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@Kevin: I can sympathise. One of our big DB applications (which was designed before I got here) is only "tested" by trying a few things manually. It's the one I keep waffling on whether I should write a Python-driven test suite or replace the whole thing entirely.
Hm I'm getting errors/mismatches that way
16:06
@davidism I think a lot of the times they are developing the stuff idealistically rather than pragmatically
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@MarcusS: that shouldn't be. I can't think of a single case in which the two should give different results.
I think a problem we've had in the past is that nobody feels like they have "ownership" of the dev/qa/prod systems, so nobody can step up and say "I've modified the deployment process so that you can't commit code to source control if it causes a test to fail"
yesterday, by PM 2Ring
valid = set('ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ')
for text in ('HELLO', 'HeY', 'XYZ1'):
    print(text, valid.issuperset(text))
# output
HELLO True
HeY False
XYZ1 False
The venn diagram of "has elevated privileges on those systems" and "has the technical ability to implement complex deployment rules" has a very small overlap
Yeah, nvm -- superset faster
16:11
Phew! :)
FWIW, i'd probably cache the set of valid letters as a default arg so it doesn't get re-created on every function call. Some people don't like using args like that, but I think it's a reasonable technique. Another option is to use a function attribute, but people tend to dislike them even more, and there's the cost of the attribute lookup.
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For something like that, which is comprehensible outside of its immediate use, I'd probably use a module-level global. But also have a hard time getting worked up about it.
Unless you're spell-checking all of Project Gutenberg, I think you can get away with a less-than-optimal ascii uppercase detector.
16:26
Anyone know how to check if a commit into master was a part of a pull request?
@DSM Fair enough, and the speed benefit of a local over a global isn't that much...
Oh wow, I've been blaming my ISP for getting only the third of my ideal bandwidth through wifi. Now I did a speedtest on the gigabit-ethernet-connected PC, and I got the real deal...
@corvid There’s no concept of “pull requests” in Git itself
stupid reinforced concrete
@corvid if this is through github, look for a "Merged ___ into master" merge commit. If this was done locally via a fast-forward, well...
16:30
tobias_k just made a little faux pas regarding __eq__ and __hash__. He kinda corrected himself in the comments, but I think he needs to fix his answer: stackoverflow.com/a/41940211/4014959
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@PM2Ring: I don't have a real problem with mutable objects being hashable as long as their hash is mostly independent of their equality. Otherwise you could never use a custom instance as a key, 'cause you can always mutate them..
@DSM Fair point. And I guess that's why they're merely scary, and not downright impossible. ;)
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Do we have any Norwegian cabbage-lovers?
16:49
I had an idea the other day for a memoization class that persists results across multiple executions of the script. I thought it would be cool if the class deleted the cache if it detected that the memoized function's definition had changed. But I haven't yet come up with a way to perform this detection.
I can get 90% of the way there by serializing f.__code__.co_code but that doesn't pick up on changes to the function signature, ex. default values
I don't think I can serialize all of f.__code__. When I try, pickle fails with _pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle <class 'code'>: attribute lookup code on builtins failed.
Am I correct in that the only way to sort "a tuple with two string elements, where I need to sort first by the first element ascending order, and then second descending order" is to use cmp_to_key or (even more ugly to me) abuse the fact that sort is stable and sort twice?
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You could try serialising the Signature (capital intended) as well.
@paul23 If the second element is numeric, how about seq.sort(key = lambda t: (t[0], -t[1]))?
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By "abuse" do you mean "take advantage of one of the motivating reasons to provide the stability guarantee in the first place"?
sorted([('a', 'b'), ('b', 'a'), ('a', 'a')]) -> [('a', 'b'), ('a', 'a'), ('b', 'a')]
@DSM Well it would require anyone to understand the underlying code of the sort function: so the actual implementation details become important for the outerscope.
16:55
Call sort twice. I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the docs as the way to do exactly what you want.
If at a later point I notice (say) heapsort would be magnitudes better I couldn't change the sorting algorithm anymore simply due to this line somewhere in the code.
> The built-in sorted() function is guaranteed to be stable.
I think "the built-in sorting algorithm is stable" is one of those things that we're supposed to assume everyone knows, even though in practice not everyone knows it.
It's part of the spec, not an implementation detail.
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@paul23: huh? Despite being familiar with the idea of the Python timsort implementation I understand almost none of the code. All I know is that it's stable.
16:57
If our code depends on sort-stability, and in doing so confuses the reader, it's their fault and not ours.
could also use ord() I guess, if you wanted to use the key = lambda approach
If your argument was valid, it would basically invalidate any assumptions ever, and no one would be able to program anything.
rb folks
plus I finally understood loud and clear __name__ == '__main__'
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:-)
@paul23 I feel like, in most cases, if you're rewriting your code to change what sort it uses, then things will be encapsulated such that the line that depends on stability will be quite close to the part you're rewriting.
17:01
Well the whole reason that I even sort is illogical from the outer scope (or even the inner scope). I just sort cause it prevents edge cases of the input.
(Strings can also be empty, and to make the code work, tuples who have the first element empty should be handled always before the rest, while those who have the last element empty should always be handled at the very last).
The only time I'd expect them to be far apart is if you're using some kind of dependency injection pattern to get the sorting algorithm from one scope to another. Like if you were defining your function like def do_complicated_thing(x,y, sorting_method=__builtins__.sort)
@paul23 how about explicitly iterating over firstempties + rest + lastempties?
In the well-encapsulated case, it's reasonable to assume that the person rewriting the function should read the whole function and understand the constraints of the functions that function invokes.
and by + I might mean itertools.chain
In which case, you think "can I use heapsort here?", then analyze the function, then say "not if I continue to depend on this approach which requires stability". There shouldn't be a case where you patch heapsort in without considering the ramifications and end up with surprisingly broken code
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17:06
Plus the test cases verifying the edge cases will fail if the re-writer misses them..
this is probably a dumb question but, what actually happens in an event loop between a function being called and its callback being called?
What framework is providing the event loop in question?
JS :| I thought it was a bit of a generic programming question though
It could be as simple as
while(true){
    event = get_event()
    if(event.kind == MOUSE_CLICK and event.target_element.hasattribute("onclick")){
        event.target_element.onclick(event);
    }
    //other event detection conditionals go here...
}
In which case the answer is "not much at all"
On the flip side I could imagine a framework that has a million bells and whistles and does all sorts of weird things in its event loop to, I dunno, handle interrupts and coordinate multiple threads and such.
This is all baseless speculation though, as I have read the source code of exactly zero frameworks with event loops.
It occurs to me that I may be misinterpreting your question. I'm reading it as "what happens in an event loop between an event occurring and the corresponding callback being called?" but you might be asking something more like "what happens between a callback being registered and its corresponding event occurring?"
The answer to the latter is a deep rabbit hole if you want to drill down all the way to the detail of "the pressure the user exerts on the mouse button completes an electric circuit in the peripheral"
I don't understand the question D:
17:20
Exactly as written, neither do I, so I substituted in new words until I found something I wanted to answer :-P
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If I answer imaginary questions that have a small Levenshtein distance from the actual question, then maybe my imaginary answers will have a small Levenshtein distance from the actual answer.
At the very least I hope I'm setting up fence posts that cut out a slice of possible answerSpace that corvid can explore on his own more efficiently than if he was exploring all of answerSpace
cbg everyone!
Today I'm feeling like learn a bit of debugging my code. :D
17:24
import pdb and print() are the two pillars of Python debugging.
@Kevin I note import pdb
@MarcusS how did I miss that programme.
Oops, didn't look at the timestamp.
also 31:53 lol
@davidism you're awesome, thanks!
@MarcusS what is the differance between Hell's Kitchen?
17:29
Reminds me of the "what's the difference between a duck?" joke.
@anniejcannon I guess there is no Brit shouting around and cursing in a very British way
@anniejcannon Alton Brown vs. Gordon Ramsay aka Prime Destroyer Of All Things Raw
@MarcusS laurel
@Kevin What is that joke? :D
@MarcusS I meant lol
17:48
@anniejcannon The punchline is "one leg is both the same". It's an anti-joke similar to no soap radio. "What is the difference between [thing]?" on its own is an incoherent question because you need two things to perform a comparison, and the question only provides one thing.
@Kevin :D
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Huh. I've heard the duck version, but never noticed the no-soap-radio gag.
So you're paddling downstream up a waterfall in your canoe when your motor gives out. The question is, how many pancakes can fit in a doghouse?
17:55
^^ beautiful
For additional antihumor, consult natethesnake.com
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Q: What do a duck and a snake have in common?
A: They've both got feathers, except for the snake
18:14
@Kevin I love this story
What's green and has 18 wheels? Grass! I lied about the wheels.
But my grass is yellow not green :(, must be on the other side of the fence.
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Nice.
How is a raven like a writing desk? They produce flat notes | Poe wrote on both
^ xD
Kevin do you like bacon ? more specifically, bacon in your sandwich ?
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That's an unusual question, but in the middle of a conversation about absurdist humour I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
18:18
I love bacon, except for when it bites back. It really ruins the whole interstellar cruise.
I like bacon on my sandwich but I most enjoy it by itself, so I can properly appreciate its baconness
Chuck Norris is blind but still afraid of sky diving. Why?
A: Because it scares the Hell out of his dog. :D
Rbrb
18:38
Chuck Norris is not blind and the only thing that scares him is gay people
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The world is not lacking for places where people can caricature other people's religious beliefs; no need for one more.
Oh, going to make that my word of the day: caricature
@paul23 your sorting problem might be better answered simply by doing three separate extractions, but I see that's already been suggested
I'm sure gay people don't scare Chuck Norris as much as Chuck Norris scares gay people
With which I say rhubarb and leave the office
I don't understand how holograms work. I'm adding them to the list of things that are probably magic, just below gyroscopes and Fourier transforms.
@idjaw relevant to you ^
18:52
That voice
He should work as a hypnotizer/sleep consultant.
> whereas each point in a photograph only represents light scattered from a single point in the scene, each point on a holographic recording includes information about light scattered from every point in the scene.
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Is "May-tell" really how you pronounce "Mattel", the toy company? I've been saying it "Matt-ell" (well, more like "mah-tell") all these years.
I'm inclined towards mah-tell or muh-tell
> For those unfamiliar with these concepts, it is worthwhile to read the respective articles before reading further in this article.
Haha, Wikipedia knows its target audience. This is the equivalent of someone saying "I'm going to explain this to you loudly and slowly"
@DSM no, he mispronounced it on purpose.
Or at least I think he did.
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I shouldn't be as relieved to hear that as I am.
19:03
Although apparently pronunciation, even officially, of brands can vary by country.
@davidism :O that was so well done
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That makes sense. No point in having a name that the locals don't have the right sounds for.
Yeah. I'm with davidism on the mispronunciation on purpose
@idjaw it's the same guy tristan and I keep linking to in the overwatch channel, go watch his "how to actually play" stuff.
Or really, all of his stuff, it's really good. Not all jokes.
nice.
19:08
There's an overwatch channel?
There's a tristan?
@Kevin I believe most of the magic is interference. *waves hand*
the strongly wavelike behaviour of diffraction makes it hard to comprehend
I've produced holograms in lab practice and I still find them uncanny
After reading the article I'm still convinced it's magic, but the total proportion of magic to science has shrunk in my estimation.
A pair of my countrymen invented X-ray holography, a way to take a holographic image in X-ray diffraction of crystals. I'm not even going near that, lest my brain drips out of my ears.
The illumination beam and reference beam interfere, and the interference pattern is recorded on the medium. So far so good. The object is removed and later the reference beam is shone on the medium. So far so good. This somehow causes light to be emitted in the same pattern as the illumination beam shining on the object. <-- this is the magical part.
19:20
Hmm... I'm fairly certain you can reason about time-reversal symmetry of the Maxwell-equations.
Something about the same boundary conditions...
"you" in this case referring to the platonic ideal of a scientist, rather than me, Kevin.
Imagine two spherical physicists in a vacuum...
Which reminds me of the mini-hyperloop test run. When's that?
The test run will be announced via sonic boom in the immediate surrounding area.
If your kitchen window is unshattered, wait patiently.
"The test went great, although we've launched a transatlantic shockwave in the atmosphere" is hard to assess on the "success--failure" axis
19:25
Afterwards, when asked about his feelings as an integral part of the experiment, the test pilot replied, "WHAT?"
Assuming that's what you're talking about.
Either that or it's taking place in a few months
Is it like a cruel joke to make UTC a nightmare when dealing with date time?
I kinda hate a lot of things right now
Oh Hii @MorganThrapp, It's been 15~ days since I saw you! How've you been?
note to self. Bhargav is taking notes on our activity. It's aware
wow, it took me 5 minutes to realize subprocess wasn't working because I was trying to call suprocess
19:28
@BhargavRao Hey, BR! I've been good, just crazy busy. You?
maybe I should just go home for the day
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@idjaw: if you're working with Python, yeah, our datetime support isn't good. (Antti has entire rants on the subject.)
@idjaw I've always been doing that :P
@DSM I'm not happy with no built-in way to solve my problem nicely. timetuple is not utc aware
why :(
How else do you think he blackmailed the mods got elected? ;)
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19:30
@MorganThrapp Quite good, Quite good. Still the same old BR. :)
Being a mod hasn't ruined you yet?
Always good to hear. :)
Right now approach is to simply split out the utc part and math it on my own. I did read this..but ugh...no
@MorganThrapp Nope, It's made me stronger :D
Well that's good.
I traded the time I used to spend searching for dupes with the moderation time. So the mod work did fit perfectly.
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19:36
Thus is the Great Balance maintained.
> @poke I think it's the wrong target because even though the question asks about sorting - the solution doesn't require any sorting!
Well, I’m glad we don’t close questions based on their answers.
Well, if the question is an XYZ problem, do you target the X or the Y?
If the question text focuses 85% on Y, even though they actually want to know X, then I’m still closing based on Y.
Because otherwise, if I were to remove the part about Y, then it wouldn’t make a good question for X either.
^ Agreed. I am interested in knowing the formulae to calculate 85% of Y :P
19:43
poke, do you speak German?
Taking all of the text, and then looking at how much text is about X compared to the rest :P
@MooingRawr I am German, and I speak German
@excaza 'sup, rocess
My friend tells me Danke means Thank you more or less, but is it a common phrase to use in "everyday language" ?
Ah, Finally found it
Oct 18 '16 at 12:59, by Bhargav Rao
> This is not a dupe because the target adds 4 numbers and not 5. My question is different.
lol, nice
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19:45
I don't remember that but I'd already starred it so I must have enjoyed it then too. :-)
LoL :P It is tough sometimes
/me tries to make pun on "danke memes", fails
@MooingRawr why wouldn't it be?
@MooingRawr Yeah, “Danke” is the shortest form to thank someone. You can use it just like “thanks” or stuff
@Kevin noob
19:46
Danke, memes. Demes.
in Germany, I used "thank you" to say thank you.
worked most of the times
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I learned the word "dank" from text adventures. #retrowords
@khajvah Can confirm
@MooingRawr Makes me wonder why you trust a random German guy on the internet more than your friend though :P
In case anybody else missed it (like I did): there's a strongly political and by many seen as devisive (now-locked) post by Joel on meta, and a bunch of posts controverting it
uhh, that sounds like drama
19:49
very much
hence no link:P
I don’t feel like looking at the combination of e-drama and political drama right now, so I’ll pass.
Thanks for the warning though
Which meta?
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In Vienna -- which I know is not in Germany :-P -- I stopped into a small out-of-the-way tobacco shop to ask for directions once, hoping to try out my quickly-memorized travel guide phrases. Unfortunately the elderly proprietors spoke flawless English with a gorgeous accent, so too bad for me.
19:49
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Random guys on the Internet are automatically trustworthy if they use a real picture as an avatar. That's admirable transparency. Entirely unlike the unsavory types that use gravatars.
@KevinM I think it’s pinned to the site
@poke no, it's just a hot meta post right now
Oh, lol
You can trust them as far as you can throw them, which is not very far at all, because monitors are heavy.
19:50
1578 votes though.
@Kevin Not to mention the use of the name “Kevin”
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For the record, we're trying to avoid certain topics being discussed elsewhere leaking into rooms/6. Here we eat from the cabbage of friendship.
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Kevins, a superstitious and cowardly lot
@AndrasDeak Idk, I didn't get to ask, there's many way of thanking someone and I was wondering where Danke stood.
I found it
19:52
@DSM cabbage of friendship! *nom*
@poke I trust my friend but he isn't around to clarify my questions, so I thought I would ask a poke-mon
@MooingRawr I can’t even think of any right now that doesn’t include “danke” in some way…
I get a kick out of it when I'm watching anime and they say "sankyuu". Loanwords!
@Kevin that makes me twitch
Hmm, the cabbage of friendship is still around? How has it stayed fresh for all these years?
DSM
DSM
19:53
@davidism: I keep it cool.
@davidism It grew back
using the magic of friendship! <links my little pony>
Jul 10 '14 at 15:55, by davidism
Yeah, I only started talking in the last month or two.
@AndrasDeak You can always switch to dubs, but then you have to deal with them saying "thanks for the grub" instead of "itadakimasu" which always struck me as a weird tonal conflict at best
@AndrasDeak one podcast that I can listen to. :D
19:55
oh no, dubs make me scream
Haha, I always remember my WebFaction / Watchtower crossover from the early days, forgot about this.
thanks for the grub lmao
DSM
DSM
Ehh, some dubs are okay. The ones for Haibane Renmei and Black Lagoon were both pretty good.
I've been trained by my people to reject any kind of dubbing. Not because we're so advanced that everything has subs, but because any HunDub made in the past 20 years is unbearable.
Anyone here know how to point github pages to a specific subfolder in a project?
19:58
It should be in repo settings
DSM
DSM
Wow, good point. I automatically assumed "dub-into-English". I think I've watched French subs before, and once maybe tried to make it through a Spanish dub. (Spoiler alert: I failed.)
@Kevin “thanks for the grub”? Really, wow.

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