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What are you working on, in NLP?
or this:
I work on NLP and enrollment rates - I am driven by my veterans, my active duty military, and the desire to provide my son and daughter more choices then I had - add the equivalents to your package and you should have no problem with PH.D packagess
I fight to increase and provide for the technological evolution for mankind on my own but this is due to the pain I have seen more than any proof
Okay. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks a ton. You've been a great help :)
also know as "I am weird"
And a source of inspiration too..
no! those who cannot speak are inspiration -> those of us left just spread their stories
08:07
But without you to spread the stories, I wouldn't get to know about them, right?
Immense respect for them too, but no less to you.
two tattoos do I have - both represent Marines who saved my life
How long did you serve?
I can only hope that my lessons have shown their courage => and that I have taught others how to be accepted into grad school
6 years and 2 monthes
with 2 deployments during 2006
Where were you deployed?
Iraq mostly
08:10
Nothing but respect :)
ah, interesting point -> if you see deployments/military time from professor you want to be accepted too --- do not comment beyond thank you unless military
it is offensive to a number of use when people call us heroes (cause we remember true patriots and heroes who cannot speak)
What do you mean?
but thank you we have learned to take
I lost men - period. It is not something I want to be called a hero for (yes, I understand the logic fallacy but it exists) but a thank you I can take
so thank you for your accpetance
Ah, apologies, i guess. Didn't mean to be offensive.
n0t offensives - just advise
08:15
alright. I'd remember that in future
for instance, my current best professor - the one I signed up to learn from - is not military and occasionally just does not get me but worse (at beginning) would have been to pretend I was military with advisor (did 2 year Iraq) - if not military: thank them for service and move on
it will give points and move on rather then seeming to be sicophant
and losing points
with the bigger lesson (which I have pointed out at least three times now - most people take 7 btw.) is to learn about professors at graduate level and focus on those who know what you want to know
...reallly being nice
I'll research faculty more.
good :)
going for lunch now. Rbrb. And thanks for the advice :D
btw. looking at your contributes I would add you to my "acceptable" but I would add some git or SO examples for top research
@ChaoticTwist particuliarly if you have NLP and Visual stuff
08:22
I'll be updating my SO profile soon, didn't get the time yet.
which is really in demand
git, forget SO for example
or bitbucket
@JGreenwell can I get in touch if I have further queries?
I am on most days so just ping me
Yeah, I have a git but haven't linked it to SO yet.
doesn't matter: at entry level = get code expertise out there
08:24
Okay. As a showcase of sorts, you mean?
I love Ffisegydd and DSM (and to small part myself) but we're proven - for entry it is all about that provability
so yes, SO, Git, BItBucket, these are places I check
good content, of course
remember GIT and BitBucket offer private for "not quite ready stuff"
Yeah. Do contributions to opensource (filing bug reports etc) count or are they insignificant in the scheme of things?
also math stuff is helpful just to show you know math at practical level
I, seriously, look at Math.SE over SO.SE sometimes
Ah. okay.
I have 0 contributions to Math btw. so I know how this looks (Data Science is dead=ish and Cross-Validateed is cool but I'm busy) so look beyond SO
but execs are weird and I have had one person hired because of post on Cross-validate - after lengthy explanation - who worked out okay
08:31
Okay.
btw. I wish there was some way to associate/categorize this SO people
sucker for people how teach me
In what way?
but that paart is weird
In what way????
please, explain
I'm about 3 hours into a med that is not going to work
"there was some way to associate/categorize this SO people"
in what way?
oh, more documentation stuff -> I hope that one day SO Python will take at least some Python rep
cause SO DOCs are SOD OFF
08:34
Hehe. True.
but please, get a job, earn some money, and point to me as your teacher -> it annoys my wife that I am broke but I love teaching and nothing on Earth or Hell will change that
or whatever you decide to call it
@JGreenwell will try my best :D
(to get a job I mean)
you're my 500+ student so no pressure
No pressure , indeed :P
though people need more CAP (MS Office) lessons over building clearing lately - I am nothing if not "Semper Gumby"
though I like SO, so don't forget us if DOC turns into the death that DOS was
and, please, if anyone has a change for indentation: I really don't care if it is correct - change, progress, adjust, this is the concept of planning and I love to be corrected, correctly :)
08:43
I thought the point of SOD was exactly "Edit All The Things" :P
the point of everything to me is to progress
else I have wasted my limited time
I have no time to waste
change history, teach them to see through my eyes for you have more experience then myself
There are a few, actually a number of varying, interesting social, qualitative, studies on the influence on education and economic postilions on education opportunities but these have been beyond my own scope
Europe vs. US is an interesting subject in itself
ahh...one day I will choose my own topics
or I won't; best I can do is un-unflinchingly approach the truth
yes, I see the negative
@AndrasDeak SOD has no point
just rep gain
an early memory of mine (yes, my father was Army during Korean and Vietnam) was the idea that we are screwed if one doesn't work toward logical goals - I have since learned that man is anything but logical but this does little to remove my resolve
@JGreenwell yup
esp. after comparing my experience in Iraq with my Dad's experience in Korea
also, Canadians (as a Scottish person) you make serious whisky
@AnttiHaapala on a positive note: RDF with scipy is cool
I plan on using it on a number of localisations and this is due to your examples within Q&A
so, I'd ++ you a few times if possible
even if it was physics :P
09:01
you still mean Rbf, right?;)
and was that Antti aimed at me?:D
And how tired are you?
...
you do not want to know
I'm in 6 chat rooms
4 are veterans
give me the patience of a true teacher
whoever is up there
09:03
4 veteran chat rooms?
oh, not on SO, right?
2 hours sleep in about 6 days
but that's about my usual
2 SO
so...why not sleep?
4 various
TBI
no sleep for the injured
no sleep for their professor
but it works as we understand the level of pain
normal college students I use different setups
@JGreenwell sure you're not a machine?
09:05
what kind of abnormal college students do you have?
@Andras is there such a thing as students that are normal? :p
@JonClements I have yet to meet one
@JGreenwell are you being experimented on?
note, I have about 230 research papers on TBI if you want
yes
and no
09:07
by government no (for now)
by university (yes for now)
also yes, I'm okay but it is a hard week (end in two days)
honestly I've been having a hard time following you, but I'm starting to suspect that it's not me, it's you:P
likely
have you ever had those you owe your life too?
I do
although I did wake up today to the missus triggering my evolutionary protect-the-female instincts by setting off a wasp alarm in the form of shaking me saying "THERE'S A WASP" (she's allergic)
so I might not be at the top of my cognitive powers
09:10
And, as such, occasion sly I participate in the horrible experiments that one cannot perform on those in constant pain....only those in near constant pain - but Semper Fi -> all is worth the pain
Always Faithful, Always teaching
I think I'm getting the gist of it
<- is also a weird guy whose call signs were "The Rabbi" and "Fink"
note: I'm also working with Java chat....and those people remind me of "Mork" from "Mork and Mindy"
....so I might be off
Semper Gumpy (always adaptable for the good of mission accomplishment is what I meant)
I'm missing background on gumpy
(I suspect it's not a python module)
09:17
note: This seenms a better explanation - though I consider myself comprimised and the subject of a new trial medication (which I cannot be too mad about; being a scientist)
is it some PTSD thing?
no
explosions
@JGreenwell ah thanks
@JGreenwell I assumed you don't need explosions for that
PTSD is a physiological condition while TBI is an actual injury to the brain
oooh, I see, thanks
I mean, I wasn't clear on the latter
09:20
Please, do not discount PTSD though (not that you would) - it is a serious medical condition
I most certainly do not
OK, I didn't find what TBI stands for at first; it makes sense
well, my medical record includes explosions, returned fire, and car accidents - pick one and you have TBI.....I can (with the help of others) count 5 incidents)
so pick an incident is usually what I say to doctors
...there is an interesting study about analytics and TBI...
OK, and I misunderstood your earlier message too:)
(I thought with "explosions" you were referring to PTSD)
09:24
nope, have that too, but at very low levels
actually, the statement I made earlier (on my dissertation subject) is accurate and was my first draft - and indeed lead to my interest in NLP
which can allow people of my state to function
hence I have alot of code which I, hope, gets released to the public one day
let's hope so:)
I wish I was more drunk - it would give me an excuse for the last hour
but I'm an only on my 6 double which is well within tolerance for me
honestly, SO DOCS (SOD OFF) has really pulled me in
cause I would hate to see a resource I pointed my students too = go under
I don't think SOD will ruin SO
no, but it confuses undergrads (freshmen)
and then I have to correct but "that was the real documenation''....really a problem
a lot of that
like +100 papers
ah I see
09:34
wrote a powershell script to set those to seperate directory today
2 kids...well, depending on ages one considers kids, that I see potential in
annoying, trying my best
really don't want to fail CS potential
....and yes, I know the answer could be "welcome to academia" but that doesn't mean I have to accept it yet
of course not
I have seriously seen 6 references to SO DOCs....painful
I want to give best to students
leads to examples on Python.SO or C for research....currently leaning to C but what about As......yes, i know the difficulty (federally licensed instructor in USMC) but I wasn't expecting this so early
What? Your students are actually citing SO docs?
after 2 days?
yeah, I pointed to a few examples of my own (rather SO cite then just copy and paste)
seems to be working (Q&A rather than SOD obviously)
actually, I had one reference to you Andras
09:42
weird I know
I should've put some booby traps in there
Wow... I know someone who's famous on SO :p
3
A: Read .dat file using python

Andras DeakI would use numpy.loadtxt for reading input, but only because post-processing would also need numpy. You can read all your data to memory, then find the separator lines, then reshape the rest of your data to fit your number of particles. The following assumes that none of the particles ever reach...

this one actually
09:43
surprising
(tell them to register and upvote good posts)
it's always my crappy answers that get attention:D
it actually didn't fit the assignment but lead to a better lesson for student
and ++ for that cause I forgot until going through grading
@JGreenwell how often do you get students hand in something that you look at and just go: "yeah... you didn't do this..."
about 60-70%
earlier class
I expect this
nothing from you yet, Jon, your are still to complicated for them
give it a year
:D
aww thanks for the +1 mysterious person, I was only joking though
btw. I love looking at graphs and asking that horrible for Undergrad question : "what does it mean?"
09:47
:)
"what are the units of the axes?"
in all fairness, it is an excellent answer and so + is desired (I do check up with multiple people at once btw)
thanks:)
seriously in my notes I have: stackoverflow.com/questions/16524548/…
which means I have to + Jon at some point (yes, I just did)
the good old days when even Jon said "have you tried...?";)
I am not opposed to SO based copy & paste - as long as you can explain and cite it
09:50
Got an upvote on something from 2012 yesterday... always worries me when I end up being made aware of something I wrote an I have no recollection of doing so :(
that has always been my rule cause that's how I learned on Perlmonks.org - way back in the day
@JGreenwell Well makes sense... it's similar to re-using existing code/libraries that you understand...
cause if so I did it and it helped me explain it to student
@JonClements with 2000+ posts in python alone, that should be fine...
yeah, and when student get up-itty I just load COBOL
shuts-them-right-up
09:55
@JGreenwell surprisingly it was this one - I think everyone else had taken my preferred methods of doing it, but wanted to show alternative options...
Considering I came from Perl (professionally with C++/VB/Java) - I have already gotten reviews that say the use of SO, Twitter, and other social media is appricated......so job next semester (good or bad)
@JonClements people do not understand findall vs. match vs. search so I think that gets referenced alot (being a Perl person, and Java/C++/VB) it kinda follows and is therefore confusing
good, lord....I have been doing this since 1998 and I just restarted in Data - am I insane?!
Cabbage
wait...I'm wrong...1997...its' worse
cbg PM2
Hi, JGreenwell. I see from the transcripts that you've been having a "fun" day. Hopefully, you'll get some sleep soonish.
@JGreenwell Insane is the only way to be Prof!
10:05
yeah, I'm on that cusp that says "go to bed, children will be waking you up"
soon
oh, good. I thought I would get a break in the 4:00 to 1700 days
nice to know some things are consistant
also, IBM crashed on me: 70 GB of data is apparently too much
btw. NLP is fun in government
@Sarah Just in case you're still wondering about that JSON you posted earlier: it's valid JSON, but those "null " values are a bit odd. They probably should be null, without quotes. But it's hard to know why it's not working for you without more context.
@PM2Ring not to mention using strings... shudders
...consider the use of the language of the mind to determine the state that determines the region that is defined by objects withing "recon awareness" based on the electonic state.....I am very horriby, NLP system commuication (yes, beviasease => ]
@JonClements I'm assuming that 'filename' is being used to represent the actual literal file name and that the OP isn't actually quoting a variable name. But maybe my assumption is too generous. :)
10:25
figured it out
@JGreenwell have you tried over <------- ?
thanks @JonClements
and, yes, I recognized the idea that a Masters/Graduate program is a poor place for complaints that might be constructed as negative depending on the progression of the EST organization.
now vets - add to my supprot
10:39
Hey up, all.
Hi, Jon. How's Saturday?
I'm back from holidays. Managed to get the best week in the UK this year, I reckon :)
So far not too bad... but we'll see what happens... How's yourself?
Looking to an afternoon in tge garden, I reckon.
At least today is warm but not quite melting puppy warm...
10:46
Puppy melting is never something you want.
Completely agree.... The evil kittens might not though...
Anyway, must pick kid up, later...
Your kid right? Not just going out and grabbing one at random... I hear that doesn't end well :p
It's been warm at this end of the planet too. Even though this is supposed to be the middle of our winter the temperature has been over 20°C the last two days.
Cbg
@PM2Ring you call that warm?
10:56
I hate it above 20C, too warm.
@ChaoticTwist For this time of year, yes. I think it actually got up to 26° today. Admittedly, I am in a sub-tropical region, so it is often warmer here than in Sydney (for example). OTOH, we're also quite close to our Great Dividing Range, and it can get rather chilly here when the nearby mountains get snow.
During summer, temps over 30° are quite common here. Thankfully, it rarely goes over 40° because we're very close to the coast.
I don't think I could even comprehend ~40C.
I must admit that I get rather lethargic when the temperature is near or above 40°C. But Indians like ChaoticTwist and BhargavRao are quite used to it. :)
It depends on the moisture. In tropics, you're screwed.
Plus, if you live in a habitat like that, there's little you can do. :)
11:11
@RomanLuštrik move somewhere else would probably be what I'd do :)
Yeah, that's not always the option. :)
It's not easy to move when you have strong family ties holding you to the home territory. And Indian families tend to hang onto the family members rather strongly. :)
In high school when my classmates would complain that they're late because they missed the buy, the teacher would tell them to move closer. I always loved that argument. :)
We have a fairly vibrant Punjabi community in this district; they've been here for decades. But when they immigrated, it wasn't just whole extended families moving here, it was virtually entire villages!
11:30
Well. @PM2Ring I was gonna say 20C is hot af. You'd just call that warm? :P
@ChaoticTwist Sorry, I thought you were in India. Yes, 20°C is warm; 30°C is starting to get rather hot.
@PM2Ring I am in India. I also find 20C+ hot.
@ChaoticTwist Let me guess, Himachal Pradesh?
Nope. Delhi. I haven't stepped out of the house for 3 days now :P
Ah, under the influence of AC, then.
11:40
@ChaoticTwist Kids these days. :)
@thefourtheye Exactly.
@PM2Ring Can't bear the heat. Literally. I get medical problems if I step out in this amount of heat.
We don't tend to have AC in the UK, because it isn't hot enough through the year to warrant it. Unfortunately though, when it is hot enough we just suffer :P
@Ffisegydd isnt it always raining ? or is that just the movies? :P
@ChaoticTwist It was 33C here the other day, which is pretty hot for anywhere.
True. I was just pointing out the stereotype that it's always raining in the UK.
11:46
@Ffisegydd bloody cold if you're on Mercury...
@JonClements Depends on the time of day.
Saw this on 9gag today :D 9gag.com/gag/a25obRp
@thefourtheye Love the top comment on that one :D
@thefourtheye I like how that dog's expression is almost "omfg... this is soooo embarassing... I hope none of my mates see me..."
lol
Some hooman shows some tricks to our bros @JonClements. This means only one thing... War...
11:50
@thefourtheye bah... too hot for War... can we leave it until later? :p
Ya, humans can wait... Let's entertain them for some more time
I'm currently listening to a radio special dedicated to songs featuring the word "what" in the title. Current song: Massive Attack's version of Be Thankful for What You've Got from the Blue Lines album. The video clip for that song was rather controversial, due to full-frontal nudity.
12:04
Hey, JRS. Did you listen to that spanish jazz violin I linked a few days ago?
12:17
I'm being dragged against my will by FizzyGirl to see a film tonight.
Don't worry. I can call the police for you.
12:31
No he won't.
:)
@thefourtheye sorry for assuming you are a man.
@RomanLuštrik That's okay. But I wonder how you can mistake a cute little puppy for a man ;)
@thefourtheye well you know how stoopid those hoomans are sometimes :p
phpps.. hoomans... :D
@thefourtheye Easy, look (image of a man with covered eyes, hands waving in front of him).
DSM
DSM
13:06
@Ffisegydd: well, don't keep me in suspense.. what film? Maybe FizzyGirl is right to insist.
@DSM Star Trek :P
DSM
DSM
I admit the last one was very disappointing, and reviews on the new one have been mixed, but I'm planning to see it myself eventually. At least there might be less lens flare this time!
Unless they decide on double-lens-flare as an homage.
13:21
@Ffisegydd I'm still not convinced I completely enjoy the ST reboot... not sure ST was meant to be quite so into trying to be a comedy...
Well, the originals were pretty hilaribad.
DSM
DSM
I enjoyed some of them a lot, others not so much. I do think ST went off the rails when they didn't hire me to write them a series, JMS-style.
I slate ST a lot, mostly to annoy FizzyGirl, but a lot of the older movies are enjoyable.
Hi people what is up :D
Sky. That's it.
What, new start trek is out?
Gosh, I can't even type the name right.
13:39
@DSM Well... DS9 was a bit like B5...
DSM
DSM
@JonClements: I meant in the sense of that level of single-author control :-P
Ahhh... right
 
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15:34
off-topic-ish and random, but if anyone here watches mr. robot and caught this detail, how satisfied was your inner nerd to see "./fuxsociety.py" in one of the scenes in season 1? XP (just started watching season 2 today)
cabbage
@BhargavRao cbg
cabbage @wgwz
 
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16:54
Must... control... myself... stackoverflow.com/questions/38544233/…
> And for the love of Pete, please clean your screen!
There, I posted it here, not there.
Because posting a screenshot is soo complicated ;)
cbg Robby
:)
Another hot day in the UK
That makes 6!
(Since records began)
17:11
Saturday cbg guys. Hope you're all doing well
cbg @idjaw. All're fine here, Ty. How about you?
17:30
In doing great. Odd feeling. Our kids are with their grandparents so my wife and I have the house all to ourselves for the day.
Too quiet hehe
cmon idjaw! I'm sure you can crank up the volume on your gaming :)
@idjaw hehe; our youngest is on camp, the two teenagers take care of themselves. Not too quiet, just right.
anyone have any experience with SASS?
@MartijnPieters I do have to say that the quiet feels so foreign I just expect them to run in to the house in all their loud glory. But sometimes, we need these breaks. Thankful I do get them.
:)
17:45
Bit quiet for me too. My stepdaughter is at her dads this wkend:)
 
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18:46
You know python's going down when you see an eval answer rise up the ranks with a +3. :( stackoverflow.com/a/38545185/4099593
Found this interesting: how GTA5 renders a scene
Just watched Guardians of the Galaxy again - always good
That's a nice link. Ty.
I'll read that and then sleep. Rhubarb all
19:21
Cbg!
20:03
Anyone know how I could convert a PIL image object to a io.BytesIO object without saving and reading the saved image?
20:23
@DSM Star Trek review: meh. Average film, but then I'm not really an ST fan. I don't feel cheated out of my ticket price. FizzyGirl loved it, of course. Overall, not enough lens flare.
I actually firgured out how to do what I want
not enough lens flare? :D lol
But maybe this is too hacky, thoughts?
image_data = shrink_label(image_data) #returns PIL Image class
output = BytesIO()
image_data.save(output, format="PNG")
contents = output.getvalue()
f = BytesIO(contents)
@Ffisegydd abramstrek is no star trek
even xavier-men is more star trek than that
hi all
I have a python, celery and rabbitmq related problem that I was hoping someone could help me tackle
Every now and then, I would notice our celery queues on RabbitMQ just start to build up and celery is not picking them up to be processed
Currently its about 1.3M messages in total
 
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user559633
22:16
@viperfx add some debugging. i typically see this behavior with stalled processes or resource starvation
user559633
docs.python.org/3/howto/logging.html i'd recommend firing off a message before picking up a message and one after done processing
user559633
if you have some messages that have deadlines, separate into different queues as you don't want one stuck queue to back up everything
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