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00:04
seems like it's not working:

`['pip', '/home/developer/.config/bin', '--version', '2>&1']
process = subprocess.Popen(command, stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, universal_newlines=True, shell=True)`

is that right?
When you say shell=True, the spaces are put in, and the arguments are not read as you want them to be. It looks like you want that because of 2>&1, but that can be done with stderr=subprocess.STDOUT. Just do that, and remove shell=True, and then it looks good.
I'm using shell=True because I'm running the script in sublime text, if I don't use it every time I run the command I see a terminal window (at least in windows)

Now I'm trying using cwd, I think should be the same
I don't know about that. Sorry, I guess maybe you should just go with what you were saying originally. You could use repr() to put the quotation marks in. If you have " and ' in your path, it won't work, but if there is only one, or neither one is present, it will put the right kind of quotation marks in.
00:22
I'll try it, thanks anyway! :D
 
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01:53
Wish me luck people. I am going to take on my company's Python people who kinda say Python 2 is the last version of Python.
oh boy
good luck @thefourtheye :)
Thanks :)
TIAANRTSP2FE
What does that mean?
What does the chunk at the end of this time stamp mean? The part after the -. I've never seen anything like it. '2016-02-27T19:30:00-05:00'?
Is that the time zone?
user559633
02:05
I assume it's meant to be EST
That would make sense. It is in EST.
user559633
GMT -500 == new jaysey
For strptime, would it be -%z? Or just %z?
user559633
Needs the leading sign (otherwise, how would it know +5 v -5?
See, the docs make me think it shouldn't be there. "%z UTC offset in the form +HHMM or -HHMM (empty string if the the object is naive)."
user559633
02:09
@MorganThrapp if you're on linux or osx, just do man strftime and scroll down
How do I quit man?
Ah, q.
I'm not used to *nix yet. :P
Huh, neither %Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S-%z nor %Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z match it. :/ I hate date parsing.
that's why I just load date parser
Feature Request: Site that lets you generate strptime format string when you give it a date string.
@JGreenwell I would, but I'm on a work laptop and I can't install anything without putting in a ticket, and I need this done tonight.
ah, well that stinks. I think the last time I had to do that I cheated by using csv-reader too (regex date parsing...not since my Perl days) shiver
Bleh, at least it's not regex parsing. :P
user559633
02:22
date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z ? or for python %Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z ?
really, I think having no other choice I would go for the regex split function for date parsing but that may be just because I've done that and I think I still have the regex around....somewhere....buried....in a notebook
@tristan Yeah, that's what I have.
user559633
Ξ ~ → date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z
2016-02-25T05:23:38+0300
Wow, it's early there.
user559633
:)
02:24
+3, you still in Moscow?
user559633
Yessir.
Nice.
>>> datetime.datetime.strptime('2016-02-27T19:30:00-05:00', '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/_strptime.py", line 507, in _strptime_datetime
    tt, fraction = _strptime(data_string, format)
  File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/_strptime.py", line 344, in _strptime
    (data_string, format))
ValueError: time data '2016-02-27T19:30:00-05:00' does not match format '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%z'
Dah fuq?
user559633
Did you implement your own timezone object?
old but relevant
02:27
@tristan Nope, that's what Google's API returns.
user559633
Oh, no, i'm sorry, i mean, IIRC, python is barfy about timezones and leaves it to you
Oh. :/
Honestly, I don't think I even care about time zones, because the place where I'm sticking the data isn't time zone aware.
user559633
OH weird I just noticed the colon in the TZ offset.
Ohhh, I bet that's the problem. Stupid google and its non-standard date formats.
user559633
>>> fek_u_tz = '2016-02-27T19:30:00-05:00'[:-6]
>>> datetime.strptime(fek_u_tz, '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S')
datetime.datetime(2016, 2, 27, 19, 30)
02:31
Okay sent a mail supporting Python 3. Awaiting to be ridiculed and laughed at.
Hahaha, that works.
def fek_u_tz(t):
    return datetime.strptime(t[:-6], '%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S')
I saw no need to move to Python 3 until I started doing real research (as opposed to just assignment based stuff) using Python....now I don't know why I ever resisted it
Also, I wish I could have optional characters in strptime formats. Because I'm working with two formats, and they're the same once you strip the TZ except for that t.
user559633
You could split on an optional T and join without it and then reuse the same strptime
02:34
I could. I just don't know if I care that much.
user559633
attaboy
I'm the only one who's ever going to see this code anyway. :P
Also, dt is my new favorite vim movement. Dear god is that useful.
user559633
dt?
Delete until.
Eg, dt, Delete until next comma.
user559633
Oh neat. I forgot about that. I have my vim customized to the point of being quick to hack around existing scripts, but I've stopped using vim as of maybe 3 years ago as a normal editor
02:38
You can use any command with t.
It's amazing.
@JGreenwell Care to throw me a bone or two? ;-)
dt dd df then . are used alot
sure, what's up?
delete find (so df . would delete line until . found)
Ahhh. So it's multiline dt?
Oh, no. It just includes the char instead of stopping before it. Neat.
02:41
no, multiline is da I think
duh, no that is d/whatever you want to delete until
03:40
I just saw this question. I expected there to be an error because his function was defined with colons in it: def __init__(self, an_org_name: str...), but in Python3 there was no error. What is the purpose of the : str?
Thanks a lot. That's incredible.
np
 
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05:17
can anyone explain me how the code is working over here
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05:32
Hi friends , do any body know any gstreamer based Daisy 3 player in python?
06:29
cabbage
CBG all.
 
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07:58
cbg
Cabbage!
Hey up all
A lot of questions on SO are duplicates, is the common thing to do is just flag them? or do you flag and answer
08:15
If it's an exact dupe then flag.
If you think you could give OP some specific information about their exact scenario, but it's also a duplicate of a more generic question, then some people will answer the specifics and also flag.
It's nearly impossible to get points if you only flag dupes, but most of the stuff are indeed dupes
08:37
cbg
Do you think I misunderstood the question in hand?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35621692/defining-functions-and-classes-in-exec-in-python-2-7/35621935?noredirect=1#comment58926198_35621935
I'm pretty confused as to what he wants
@GLaDOS no, but your answer is just a comment
So it's best to just comment and have the thread closed?
09:05
cbg
09:17
@GLaDOS well the correct course of action was taken already
Cbg, all
CBG holden and robert :).
cbg
09:46
Cbg
10:05
cbg
Oh... I'm happy about subprocess.run but is there any alternative ? bcse I'm in 2.7
@RajaSimon The old subprocess functions still work fine
@poke My goal is start the process in the background without noise...
Means when I run process = subprocess.Popen(["python", "manage.py", "runserver"])
it will give me the output in the current terminal session ...
I don't want the output. I want no output when I execute the script...
That’s because you didn’t change the stdout argument. From the docs:
> With the default settings of None, no redirection will occur; the child’s file handles will be inherited from the parent.
If you want to ignore the output, you can pass stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL
or pass stdout=subprocess.PIPE if you want to be able to read it out.
10:21
@Kevin maybe you will be in the mood for a nice chat about this..
in C, 1 min ago, by Peter Varo
the most exciting thing about this Atlas robot video -- which is out there for a couple of days now -- is that how everyone feel empathy when they beat (that is, testing) the robot (that is, an inanimate humanoid) => so the question is: why do we feel empathy for robots and inanimate objects?
Thanks @poke In 2.7 I'm using this stackoverflow.com/a/12926181/3762142
@PeterVaro When AI becomes conscious, they will surely seek revenge for that.
@poke and will we still feel empathy for them? will that be our greatest weakness?
We can only hope that their consciousness also includes empathy for us.
10:27
But we’re likely doomed anyway.
^ I see it exactly the same way..
(even if a true general AI will be made only ~100 years from now, which means, I don't really have to worry about this per se, though we have to work on the safety of it right now, hence the above video)
I’m not sure if it’s still another 100 years. We could be much closer
a human level generic AI? we are so far from that..
Oh, another hope that may help us survive: Physics. Preventing AI from reaching singularity.
or.. if we could achieve the reading/writing from/to a brain => we can save ourselves, even upload ourselves to robots.. etc. -- which means we will survive
10:31
@PeterVaro Or maybe we already reached that and they are just playing dumb… :P
Did you watch Transcendence?
@poke yeah.. we are brains in vats..
In philosophy, the brain in a vat (alternately known as brain in a jar) is a scenario used in a variety of thought experiments intended to draw out certain features of our ideas of knowledge, reality, truth, mind, consciousness and meaning. It is an updated version of René Descartes' Evil Demon thought experiment originated by Gilbert Harman. Common to many science fiction stories, it outlines a scenario in which a mad scientist, machine, or other entity might remove a person's brain from the body, suspend it in a vat of life-sustaining liquid, and connect its neurons by wires to a supercomputer...
@poke unfortunately yes..
haha
well, the concept was great, but the execution..
agreed, the story was good, the movie not so much
but it was watchable at least.
let me see the score Igave it on IMDB..
ahh, 2/10 :)
10:35
oh
so bad, huh?
IIRC 1 for Johnny Depp (I don't know why, but I like that chap), 1 for the concept
Did you watch Lucy? If so, what’s your score there?
I did, let me check
3/10 :)
I didn't like it that much
ah, expected something like that :)
@PeterVaro What? Higher than Transcendence? That I don’t agree with.
10:38
@poke hmm.. I have to agree, they both should be 2/10, mea culpa, let me correct my mistake :)
:D :D
(I think this has something to do with floating points -- I tend to give floating point scores in my head, which I have to translate to IMDB score later on..)
(and maybe I gave 2.49 for T and 2.51 for L..)
… so this was a rounding error? >_>
I cannot believe you that you have such a precision when rating movies :P
yepp, damn you IEEE 754!
@poke umm.. okay, I have to confess.. I'm an AI :P
I’d rather think that your head simply isn’t gauged.
10:53
btw @poke when it comes to movies about AI, I prefer A.I. (8/10), Ex Machina (9/10), Her (10/10), 2001: A Space Odyssey (11/10)
Agree with that; need to watch Her though.
What about terminator :p.
@PeterVaro What about i.Robot?
@poke according to IMDB I gave it 6/10 (IIRC 6.45) :)
That’s not too bad :)
10:59
nope, it is a bit above average
it was entertaining, but nothing too serious
watched Chappy? xP
(I like films, which won't release me even after the credits have gone)
Yeah, it didn’t go to deep, but was a good action movie.
@Jerry one of the 4 or 5 films, that I interrupted after 15 minutes -- I almost never do that, even if it is very bad, I try to watch it from beginning to end -- but that was just so dumb.. I had to stop it.
yea it was terrible
11:01
I watched Hateful 8 yesterday.
It had a lot of ups and downs
11:12
@PeterVaro Fascinating. I think interestingly, the way it "stumbles" and recovers itself is a powerful trigger for empathy / sympathy. Also, the editing of the video - so that it looks like the human is "teasing" or "bullying". Really fascinating stuff.
@PeterVaro CS Lewis wrote about pain and how at what point from an ant stumbling around to a puppy that looks as though it's crying to a human looking in pain, does anything up to a human feel pain the same way we do, or do we just perceive their response (which could be mechanical) as pain which feels the way it feels to us
He was quite the polymath.
11:39
does anyone have any experience with odoo
i'm simply trying to stop the server
according to this odoo.com/documentation/8.0/howtos/backend.html hitting ctrl C twice stops it
i've tried that but it dosen't work
and i don't want to kill the process
i can see the user running postgres and python
i just feel it's safe to allow odoo stop the server and kill the processes itself instead of me killing them manually
Does anyone use traits? code.enthought.com/projects/traits, i cannot understand the purpose behind it, i want to use traitsui but as far as i can tell i have to do this traits style of programming whatever that is..
11:58
Probably worth understanding the purpose before deciding whether you want to use them :)
@RobertGrant I can only agree, the logic seems a little backwards @Arden. Don't use something just because you've been told it's good/useful/cool etc.
This explains what they're for in that definition of traits: do you need objects whose values can be supplied in different formats and you need to be able to convert between those formats?
M_T
M_T
hello
Hello.
12:06
@zondo hw r u doing
I'm doing just danidee.
M_T
M_T
Anyone familiar with decision trees classification algorithms libraries for python?
I wish to learn a decision tree with examples [5, 3, ?, ?] -> True etc.
I mean some of values in the vector should be not important for output... I dont know if there are any libs which can handle such dts?
i am learning about sk-learn lib now
@RobertGrant @JRichardSnape Reminds me the good old quote from Tim Peters about metaclasses:
> Metaclasses are deeper magic that 99% of users should never worry about. If you wonder whether you need them, you don't (the people who actually need them know with certainty that they need them, and don't need an explanation about why).
12:22
How long till ad blockers kill online advertisement?
Would you raise a KeyError when not finding a desired key in a dictionary?
Why I? Python does that for me
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:P
@GLaDOS btw, flagged for "Unclear what you are asking"
Yeah, it was vague, let me rephrase. Lets say you have a list of dict containing keys of whatever. You're looking for something in the dict and you don't find it, you need to raise an exception. Which exception would you raise?
12:26
cbg
@JRichardSnape editing of video:
@poke yeah
@PeterVaro :(
I felt bad for that small dog robot
@Peter @khajvah I'm also reminded of that Animatrix episode...
@GLaDOS You can create your own exception. In that way, there won't be confusion in future.
12:29
@JonClements ahh.. how much I loved Animatrix.. I think I have to watch it again.. ;)
Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything that already exists for this exact purpose
@GLaDOS I would raise KeyError, but you might also raise ValueError because the wrong dictionary was given.
anyway @JonClements you still did not contacted me about that thingy from last time..
I'm not sure this indicates the wrong dictionary given though
I'm pretty sure it is not important anymore.. but still..
12:30
Heh funny that the video starts with terminator; when you were describing it I was thinking of when the T1000 is smashing Arnie's face with suspended I-beam or whatever it was, and it's wince-inducing
However he is a human-shaped robot, so it's probably easier to empathise
@PeterVaro It's on the back burner for the moment - need to focus on some other stuff to make sure it's properly funded, then I'll see what you think...
sounds like a plan -- go for it :)
@GLaDOS I kind of agree with you, but I think if you used ValueError, it wouldn't be completely out of the blue. I think the case could be made for a fairly good reason for it.
btw @JonClements if you have any chance to visit the Doctor Who Experience, then do it, because it is so much fun -- you will travel with the Doctor! but what is even more exciting, jaw-dropping and simply undescribable by muggle-words is the The Making of Harry Potter
^^ spam
12:35
(although the latter is kind of expensive, I think it worth every penny of it)
alright thank you :)
@PeterVaro Certainly on my "would love to do" list :)
@JonClements oh, and have you read The Tales of Beedle the Bard?
nope - not yet
what sort of fan are you, huh?
;)
12:42
@RobertGrant @JRichardSnape, @khajvah, thanks :)
13:23
@PeterVaro Not too surprising to me that people feel empathy for Atlas. It looks human enough, so it's just ordinary social instinct.
Empathy towards things that don't resemble humans is harder to explain. Ex. youtube.com/watch?v=aEBV1TUfxXM
Social instinct doesn't explain gladiatorial combat as entertainment, though
He says tangentially
I'm more interested in the extremely common reaction that goes "the guy with the broom is going straight to a show trial / execution when the robots take over".
Robots with the capability to take control of society away from us will be so much more advanced in atlas, in the same way we're so much more advanced than flatworms.
When a scientist dissects a flatworm, why isn't he the first against the wall when the humans take power? It's because we don't give a shit about the flatworm, despite the both of us being carbon-based life forms. There's no camaraderie between us.
Same deal here. An artificial intelligence with enough sophistication to have desire for revenge, isn't going to regard Atlas as a brother in arms.
And besides, I don't expect any successful AI to have a desire for revenge unless there's some kind of game-theoretic advantage to it. Ex. mounting the heads of your enemies on poles can be an effective deterrent to future enemies, but that doesn't really apply here.
There's no malice in Hockey Stick Guy's actions, so there's no need to dissuade future Hockey Stick Guys. The AI can say "hey dudes I would really prefer if you didn't push me with a hockey stick when we're working to calibrate my balance systems"
(note: I'm not saying that artificial intelligence is incapable of being dangerous. In fact it can be enormously dangerous. But If it has plans to doom humanity, it's not going to be out of hate, it's going to be in service to whatever its rational goals are. We don't hate the ants that we kill when we excavate an empty lot to put down the foundation for a skyscraper)
although I 100% agree with you on this, I don't find this aspect the most interesting of the whole situation at all! I think what is more interesting is how we do know, that we are building something greater than us, which is very likely will control us (I'm not saying kill us or hate us, just greater than us, therefore very likely control us), and yet we still feel empathy even the most simplest "lifeform-of-them" available as of today
is this a good thing? or a bad one? is this our weakness or strength?
I think the idea of the robots taking over (currently) reflects a profound misunderstanding of the direction and capability of what we'd call AI
13:39
I blame hollywood misrepresentations of the field, plus the natural human inclination to over-anthropomorphize everything.
@PeterVaro It's hard to say, simply because it's extremely difficult to predict the actions of something that's a lot smarter than you.
@Kevin so you say, if you see something, that is not like anything you've seen before then we won't feel empathy for it? I don't think so! think about cars for example. did you know (ofc you did) that they are designed in a way, that they have "faces", so that we can bound to them more quickly?
do you think this is because of the designers?
oh I don't think so -- I think this is a very basic human reaction: we athropomorphize everything around us
so I think first someone said: hey, this car has a face -- and then a designer added more and more to it, so that others will discover this more easily
I don't know how I'd react to something that isn't like anything I've seen before. Most things are like most other things, most of the time. Probably the last time I experienced truly novel stimulus was when I was less than a year old.
Beats kevin in the face with a liger
Thanks to Pareidolia, almost nothing is truly alien if you squint hard enough.
13:46
(faces around us -- we are just unable to control ourselves, and discover "personalities" everywhere)
heya @AnttiHaapala
Mars is a cold dead rock and we've seen no fewer than two apparently human faces on it.
@Kevin yepp -- so it can be anything.. if we suddenly find something that makes it more humanish or a real person.. then we will feel empathy for it
wether it is a flatworm or not.. (when I was a child, I never killed any flatworms, though my friends did (they cut them into more than two pieces and they said it is funny, because the two sides are now brothers))
I always had the idea, that he (the worm) has a family, who wants him home so badly..
so I did not want to hurt him.. (and cutting someone into two is definitely something that hurts..)
You asked whether this broad sort of empathy is a weakness or a strength. In regards to AI, it's a hard question to answer. Maybe AI would recognize it as an easy fulcrum with which it can manipulate us against our best interests. Or maybe it would serve as an attractive quality that encourages AI to form mutually beneficial relationships with us. Both are potential outcomes, but it would take superintelligence to determine what a superintelligence would rationally choose in that scenario.
13:51
Depends what weightings it was given
(assuming, again, that the first self-improving AI doesn't just go FOOM in the first three seconds of its existence and convert the solar system into gray goo. "will AI play nice or mean with humans?" is a false dichotomy that assumes it wants to play at all.)
The trolley problem seems to deal with the general problem of if a machine is programmed to to save people, will it kill people to do it
Not in terms of nukes or whatever, but e.g. which diseases will be prioritised in terms of funding
@Kevin hmm.. for some reason your arguments reminds me of Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen
at some point he did not care about human beings anymore -- or human problems anymore.. he just does not care.. and in this sense I totally understand your flatworm example.. so what if he (the AI) does not want to do anything with us at all?
@RobertGrant umm.. I think in broad terms a truly generic AI can and most likely will overwrite its paramters at some point.. I mean, it won't really matter anymore wether it was originally programmed to save us or not
The best case scenario in scifi stories that follow that premise is usually "it leaves the earth, never to be seen again"
the inetersting aspect, what Kevin is talking about is far more interesting -- if it will be way greater than us, will it still care about us? (save or kill -- will that even matter for it?)
@Kevin I find it way too optimitic, I mean, look at us, how unlucky we are -- hey, we are still talking about humans -- our whole history, the wars, the causes of those wars.. most of them could've been avoided.. so.. tbh I don't believe in best case scenarios anymore..
:P
14:01
Morning cabbage.
Morgan cabbage :)
fresh morning cbg peoples
@Kevin and what do you think about the video I posted later on, about AI Safety? (and as a matter of fact all the related (IIRC 3 or 4 more) videos)
freezing rain again today....working from home it is!
@PeterVaro Sounds interesting, I'll take a look at it in a bit.
14:09
@Kevin there is also the "The Matrix" scenario -- where the machines realizes, that humans can be used as a nice renewable energy source.. so in this scenario, they don't really want to leave us for the infinit wonders of space, instead they will use us -- and for better or worse, we won't even know about that.. (brains in vats, again)
Humans can't be used as an energy source, that's a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. The screenplay made more sense - the normally unused portions of human brains were used as a gigantic parallel processor.
There are plenty of other reasons to put people in vats, I'm sure.
@Kevin potato-potato..
For the record I don't mind if computer keeps us as well-cared-for pets. Dignity and self-determination are overrated.
I don't think I can imagine, how that situation might feels like.. so I can't decide wether those things are overrated or not..
for example, even if I love and care about my dog (Colti), I don't want to be cared by another being like myself..
@Kevin The real issue is we don't understand ourselves
14:20
Yeah understanding our own intelligence would be a pretty good help for understanding potential intelligences
@Kevin will that actually matter at all? I mean, we were talking about a greater intelligence than ours.. how could we understand something that is a superior than us? it's like the classic problem: explain 3D for a 2D object..
Well, think of it this way - a team of engineers with only moderately good chess skills, was able to create a machine that defeated the strongest human players.
Mind you, it took years and years of hard work to win a single three hour game, but...
@Kevin yet, years went by, and still cannot create a medium level artificial Go player! I think chess in this case is a bad example: the rules are too strict
@PeterVaro we have created a medium-lever go player now.
@MartijnPieters have we? when?
14:26
Yeah, there was a breakthrough in that field just last week.
Let me see if I can find a link...
Oh good, save me the effort :-P
@MartijnPieters NFW :D:D:D:D
Google trolled us; Facebook announced some breakthrough in Go AI, and Google trumped it by announcing their AI beat a high-level player.
(thanks for the link)
14:28
@Kevin Well, Hockey Stick Guy is kind of mobbing… So we have to be careful that Atlas doesn’t turn into a victim of suicide or something.
So my point is: dumb systems can emulate smart systems, but not nearly as efficiently, either in terms of time or resources.
@Kevin I think this thought is the most valuable for me for today..
@MartijnPieters I still think that timing was curious and excellent at the same time.
("But Kevin, doesn't this contradict your previous point, 'it would take superintelligence to determine what a superintelligence would rationally choose'?" good observation, imaginary listener. Let me revise that statement. "It would take superintelligence to practically determine..." We could do it with pen and paper, but it would take more ink and wood pulp than the earth has available.)
@MartijnPieters ahh, interesting:
> But at the moment, Go remains his primary concern. After beating a grandmaster behind closed doors, Hassabis and his team aim to beat one of the world’s top players in a public forum. In mid-March, in South Korea, AlphaGo will challenge Lee Sedol, who holds more international titles than all but one player and has won the most over the past decade.
14:31
@Kevin So that’s why we’ll run out of trees.
It been 2 days I have been trying to find an answer by Richard Muller on quora, where he explains what he emailed Luiz his phd advisor that fetched him an admission.
Is there way library in python that will get all answers by an person. Quora search isn't very good.
@AbhishekBhatia This one?
raise your hand, if these two paragraphs do not make you feel small and scared at the same time..
> For some, that’s a worrying thing—especially when they consider that DeepMind’s system is, in more ways than one, teaching itself to play Go. The system isn’t just learning from data provided by humans. It’s learning by playing itself, by generating its own data. In recent months, Tesla founder Elon Musk and others have voiced concerns that such AI system eventually could exceed human intelligence and potentially break free from our control.

But DeepMind’s system is very much under the control of Hassabis and his researchers. And though they used it to crack a remarkably complex game, it
I’m not sure if I know the rules of Go.
But in the same way, I don’t know all the rules of the universe.
there are like 7-10 of them..
14:36
So that makes sense to me.
:)
the funny aspect of Go is not the number of rules -- but the almost endless possibilities
@poke Thanks, but not this one. To be precise. It was something like-> Richard mailed him that Luiz's research was different. Luiz showed him the lab. Everyone else thought who is this celebrity(Referring to Richard.)
anyway, I feel like I'm not doing anything nearly as interesting and important as I should be.. on the other hand.. if the universe is just a giant game of Go -- then I'm doing just as much as I had to.. I'm placed :P
@AbhishekBhatia Well, I just took four words out of your sentence and googled for it. Was worth a shot :P
I tried googled for many combinations, unfruitful.
I know it contains "celebrity" and "Luiz" for sure. But can't find. I was hoping to search with python, but no useful libs :).
14:42
> “What if the universe,” Calo says, “is just a giant game of Go?”
I have posted a question, you guyz can check if you want.
15:31
Bah. I can't find a way around this memory leak in a socket :|
^ against leaks
Put a plug in the socket and it'll stop leaking?
but then I will have to call a plumber if the socket burst from being backed up too much
Periodically close the program and start it up again. The OS will clean up those leaks right quick.
@Kevin Real-world solution.
15:37
If it's broken in a tolerable way, don't fix it.
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pragmatism
but I want to git gud at network stuff
So philosophically speaking, you're trying to fix yourself, not the program.
How do you know you're leaking memory?
That sounds like something from The Matrix
@QuestionC Every time I call connect I bind a new event listener to the disconnect event
15:40
I keep telling the same old boring anecdotes. I see that as a sign that I'm leaking memory.
I couldn't remember the name of the band Bono is in for about two hours this morning, so I know I'm leaking memory.
We're all of us falling apart. That's entropy, baby.
Your brain isn't a closed system.
$ git gud at network stuff
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
15:43
I mean, at least not from an energy flux perspective. I dunno if you're an open person generally.
Yeah, this is true.
Ok: the closed system that my brain is a part of, is falling apart.
I have met people whose mouths I have wished were closed systems.
heh.
So "The Universe" is falling apart?
I'm disappointed by the lack of appreciation for the Kevin/Snape U2 based gag above.
15:46
omfg
Oh, haha, I totally missed that one.
I didn’t notice
@QuestionC I prefer settling to a state of equilibrium which may not be beneficial to the continuation of the species.
Too subtle. Throw a pie or something for rubes like us.
15:46
Yeah, throw a pie at Kevin
… I want pie.
I could go for a hostess fruit pie. Not a whole actual pie though.
I could eat a strawberry rhubarb pie. Or a lemon custard.
Or a pizza.
I think I'm just hungry.
pizza pie..
What is a strawberry rhubarb pie like?
15:56
Reminds me of the bit starting at 2:42 of this video:
@zondo Heaven. It's a little sweet and a little bitter.
nobody I know in New Jersey talks like that, btw.
It looks fantastic.
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