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12:00 AM
(actually, if I'd wanted to do that comparison specifically, I could have gotten there in a much less roundabout way... but this is just one result of many)
 
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1:29 AM
Perhaps "least astonishment" is a bit mysterious to newbies, but the principle of least astonishment is well-established computer science terminology.
In user interface design and software design, the principle of least astonishment (POLA), also known as principle of least surprise, proposes that a component of a system should behave in a way that most users will expect it to behave, and therefore not astonish or surprise users. The following is a corollary of the principle: "If a necessary feature has a high astonishment factor, it may be necessary to redesign the feature." The principle has been in use in relation to computer interaction since at least the 1970s. Although first formalized in the field of computer technology, the principle...
> An early reference to the "Law of Least Astonishment" appeared in the PL/I Bulletin in 1967
FWIW, I learned (and used) PL/I in 1973. I'd learned Dartmouth BASIC (from my maths teacher) a few years earlier, but didn't have the opportunity to run it on an actual machine.
2:09 AM
well, yes, but the point is that it doesn't connote this specific issue
2:47 AM
@KarlKnechtel Sure. The title is much better now that it mentions default args. But it was definitely a bad move to edit out "least astonishment", since that phrase is indelibly linked to that specific Q&A in the minds of so many SO Python experts.
OTOH, a newbie with this problem isn't very likely to realise why mutability is relevant, and I don't think they'd use "mutable" in their search string. Hopefully, it won't confuse them too much when they see it in the title. In general, I prefer titles that are consistent with the OP's understanding of their problem. I'm not a fan of titles that require you to know the answer to the question in order to formulate the title. ;)
 
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4:00 AM
@PM2Ring okay,but what would they use that actually describes the problem?
 
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5:41 AM
@KarlKnechtel any one of the question titles that the community has used it as a dupe for?
Isn't that the point of the dupe system in the first place anyway? The established community knows where to find the thing to point to, and the questions cast the net to catch others with their own phrasing of the problem
 
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4:56 PM
@PM2Ring offtopic, but this reminds me of this: Principle_of_Some_Astonishment

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