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8:00 PM
yeah, my logic is if they could decipher it, then they could possibly code better than me. I write simple but very capable codes, which can easily be overused by outsiders (rather than abused), say to begin a DDOS attack.
 
@Kevin Yeah. Interesting. I think that in general you see the assembly code.
 
There are certainly quite a few decompilers that turn machine code into assembly, since it's almost a 1:1 match. But there are a handful of decompilers that can turn assembly into C
 
@Kevin Very interesting. But I think that although reverse engineering is possible with a large percentage of success, the major difficulty is reading the code that I believe to be almost all in assembly.
@Kevin Really? Turn assembly into C? Wow.
 
Google directs me to hex-rays.com/ida-pro, although I see some commentary elsewhere that says it's hardly foolproof
 
@Kevin I think that turn assembly into C is excellent.
@Kevin very good.
 
8:08 PM
ok, after the earlier discussion and further reading, I think all I need to do is register my /token/ endpoint as the finall callback for the OAuth process. Then it will return a token for my API to the client.
this is my current plan of attack
 
Sounds sensible to me
 
I am planning to also make a desktop notifier app for SO notification, after my exams over(which seems to never end.)
I had already asked it over here
 
At the peak of my SO participation fervor, I wrote a script that would fetch question titles from the new questions page, and display them in a desktop window. It was like five seconds faster than waiting for the "1 new question" box to show up in the browser.
 
@Kevin So the API is faster than the website? or something?
 
Guys, could you point me to the best Django online course (or some of the best)? Even if it is paid.
 
8:15 PM
I don't know, I didn't use an API. I just did a regular HTTP request every second.
 
@Kevin Oh cool
@Marco Depends on your taste, TBH. And your knowledge. When I was a beginner, I watched the video here but it was a bad idea as on a beginner basis it was bad(I feel), and it just promotes copy-paste code.
 
@CoolCloud preferably some complete (introductory and main subjects)
 
@Kevin 5 seconds head-start, hope you did capitalize on it
 
@CoolCloud I don't mind paying, as long as it's a good investment.
 
@Marco It does cover alot of stuff. But I am sure a paid django course would do much better. I learned tkinter from here and there are some django tutorials here as well, worth a look maybe.
 
8:20 PM
I capitalized on it hard
 
@Kevin so client side caching or sync time interval is supposed to have caused that 5 seconds, i wonder what
 
@CoolCloud Since it is not suitable for beginners this video would not be good for me, although I have already learned some very basic concepts. But thanks, anyway.
@CoolCloud Hmmmmm
@CoolCloud Codemy.com
 
Cool, I recommend you crawl through udemy and look for course that does not require much previous knowledge on python. This seems fair, given its requirement is just a computer with network. Teaches HTML, CSS, JS, and django.
 
@CoolCloud Excelent, thank you very much. I will check it.
@CoolCloud Udemy, in general, is a good learning platform?
 
@Marco I am pretty sure there are some great tutors, but is it worth the money? Huh not sure, because everyone is unique on understanding. I might have lots of live doubts, since the lectures are recorded, all those goes to waste :P
But yes pirated courses also exist
 
8:29 PM
@CoolCloud Perfect. In that sense, live classes are better, right? Do you recommend any good online technology course platform that has live classes?
 
@Marco No idea if there are any. Have not heard of it. Maybe some local computer proficient teachers might be willing to take online classes :p
 
@CoolCloud That is why universities are still desirable. :P
 
@Marco Oh yes, but too much fee to just learn django :p
 
@CoolCloud For sure. hehe
*Universities or specific schools.
I was taking a Django course at Coursera, but I didn't like it. I have never tested on Udemy, I hope it is better.
 
May the odds be in your favor 🤞
 
8:36 PM
I usually study by books too, but often without classes it is difficult.
@CoolCloud Thanks.
@CoolCloud I've used SuperProf (superprof.com) a few times, but it takes a lot of money to pay by the hour to learn via a private teacher.
haha
:P
But they are live classes. :P
 
Cool :)
 
I have situation where I return a generator but need to immediately use it twice to make a dictionary. Is there a way to do the following without storing the generator as a list:
feats = l.getFeatures()
feats_d = {k:v for k,v in zip([i.id() for i in feats], list(feats))}
 
if you instantly need it twice then don't return a generator
 
I don't have control on that
 
then use itertools.tee on your generator
 
8:48 PM
I should just store it as a list
 
{i.id: i for i in feats}?
 
ooh whats that, I'll check
 
or consume it anyway in a list
@Aran-Fey yeah, that structure looked suspiciously overengineered
 
Ah man I'm dumb, yup @Aran-Fey
Fortunately, appearing dumb is nice because it solidifies the memory. I need to make a chemical that induces that sensation when I'm learning and I'd never forget a thing ;)
 
@Dodge I want it too, please.
 
8:51 PM
It can only be bought in with freshly mined digital quatloos
 
I don't know what this is, but it seems difficult haha :P
Maybe the AI will help us with this in the very near future
 
The blockchian for those is in Kevin's head
 
@Dodge Wow
 
9:11 PM
@Marco I learned Django from the official tutorial. But I already knew Python, so it was all I needed. If you are also learning Python, you'll need additional resources.
 
@Code-Apprentice the concept of models was hard for me initially. Then views. Once I got those, It all made sense.
 
@Code-Apprentice Ah yes. Regarding Python itself, I have some peace of mind.
 
Are there good tips for writing many files to the OS with Python?
 
@Code-Apprentice Regarding the official Django tutorial, I think it is very raw. I've seen other people complain about him too.
 
Django is one of things that’s so goo you can’t believe it’s open source. Like tensorflow or QGIS or Python ;)
 
9:13 PM
@Dodge Yes :)
 
@Marco what do you mean "raw"?
 
@Dodge I would include Google Colab as well (free GPUs / TPUs - of course, with certain limitations)
 
@Dodge agreed...It's pretty incredible.
 
@Code-Apprentice When I say raw I mean that it is a very heavy material, not caring too much about the learning for the reader who wants to learn in a meticulous way.
 
@Marco Interesting. I don't remember finding it very complicated. It skips over some details, but that's what I expect from tutorials. The reference docs gives those details when I need them.
 
9:20 PM
@Code-Apprentice Maybe I can give him a second chance.
 
up to you...we each learn in our own way and should leverage what works. I'm just describing my own experience.
 
Sure. That's right.
 
 
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10:56 PM
When I tell people at work that we should have a shared set of words for our application space, should I refer to this as a) vocabulary, b) terminology, or c) nomenclature?
 
not a)
 
c) maybe?
 
d) jargon
 
...or that too
 
I thought about jargon but I don't think that's the right term here
it's not jargon to call dunder methods dunder methods
Or maybe it is. I'm not the native here.
 
11:00 PM
jargon is domain specific vocabulary
 
@Code-Apprentice Ok, I can give right now :P err sandbox
 
@piRSquared OK, so we agree, because it's not vocabulary ;)
 
"Jargon" usually has a negative connotation though
 
@12944qwerty pratice in the sandbox
 
@AndrasDeak It's from earlier, Code-Apprentice asked to send my code earlier
 
11:01 PM
@12944qwerty do I look like I care?
@PaulMcG meh
 
@CoolCloud What did you mean by ctrl + K?
 
@12944qwerty For formatting code
 
May 3 at 21:51, by Andras Deak
@user2420374 and please see our code formatting guide to chat and practice in the sandbox if necessary
 
What's a sandbox
 
11:02 PM
you've been here long enough, I thought you'd seen that a dozen times
@CoolCloud follow the link and find out
it's an isolated area where children can play safely
 
Oh :p That is a very nice idea!
 
@12944qwerty Use gist or pastebin or something similar then post a link here
 
@Code-Apprentice dpaste.org/imNB
 
@12944qwerty what editor do you use?
 
I'm currently on my chromebook so I'm using repl.it
 
11:17 PM
those tabs look pretty bad
 
But normally I'd use pycharm
 
@AndrasDeak Was about to say that
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah, Idk why it formatted like that at all
 
@12944qwerty they are probably actual tabs in repl.it
but if that's not your choice then it's fine
 
Oh, it's not the editor. I use tabs instead of spaces, and the pasting service has them a lot larger than normal
 
11:18 PM
@12944qwerty no, you are pasting tabs alright
if you have a decent editor you can tell it to add 4 spaces when you press tab
 
I know, I prefer tabs though.
@12944qwerty this is the repl link, I can give you permission to edit it if it might help
 
@12944qwerty why?
 
@AndrasDeak save those bytes, man
 
My preference, and habit after using it as default all the time
 
11:20 PM
@12944qwerty so remind me your question again?
 
In repl it looks fine
 
@Code-Apprentice "why do I get an error when I call a function with a mandatory positional parameter and pass no arguments?"
@12944qwerty aren't you fairly new to python?
 
@12944qwerty I was just gonna say you can share directly from repl.it
except that's replit.com...
 
@AndrasDeak Depends, I've been using it for quite some time (2-3) years (but not regularly)
replit.com is repl.it
They changed domains recently unfortunately
 
@12944qwerty oh...it looks way different. But then I've only used it for creating examples then sharing them.
 
11:25 PM
Makes sense. I use it for testing purposes if I'm on my computer. Much easier to set up sometimes.
 
@12944qwerty are you familiar with scratch files in PyCharm?
 
Should we chat on repl or continue chatting here?
@Code-Apprentice no?
 
@12944qwerty whatever works for you
 
Oh, it's like a local replit. I also use my chromebook because of school so I can't really use a good IDE.
 
@12944qwerty invite me to wherever you want to chat
@12944qwerty kind of...I think it uses the virtual env for your current project.
 
11:27 PM
Let's chat on replit so that we don't have to switch tabs too often and since we'll be able to see messages immediately (for me at least)
 
@12944qwerty k...how do I send or read messages on repl.it?
 
Bottom right, should be a chat icon.
 
ok, I found it
 
That's a lot of prep just to answer the question "Why is func() different from func" ._.
 
11:32 PM
every second well spent, I'm sure
 
11:54 PM
@12944qwerty The chat just disappeared for me
 
@Code-Apprentice Should be back
 
ok, I see it now
 
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