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12:04 AM
Partly because it's a link-only answer, but mainly because that link is to SOD.
 
 
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1:15 AM
evening cbg
working late tonight. Anyone else around for the evening party?
 
1:28 AM
02:28 here, about time to get some rest
 
8:32PM here
 
5:33PM.
 
1:48 AM
20:48 here.
Don't know why, but feel so cozy here... It's like the old chat room... I endorse this message!
 
@MartijnPieters Wait....you're usually ahead of me...you must be at the Mother Ship.
 
@MarcusS dude...NICE!
Are those jalapeno chili fries?
 
yea
 
hahaha
 
2:00 AM
and the ghostface burger or w/e it's called
 
Oh. That's the place you posted about yesterday?
You're having the burger I went nuts over?
 
unfortunately not as spicy as preferred even after asking them to make it "as spicy as possible"
yeah same place
 
good job! I've only been to one place where I put my foot in my mouth asking for it to be really spicy
It was a Thai restaurant
 
couldn't help it; hadn't been there in a while and ever since looking at that menu again, had to go back
 
The chef was smiling at me while I was eating. He knew
 
2:02 AM
hahah
@idjaw reminds me a bit of youtube.com/watch?v=ImBrrZXjnho
 
HE HAS A FACE MASK!
 
My face is on fire!
I made a mistake!!!!!
 
he actually did it
wow
 
2:27 AM
@idjaw he actually did it!
unbelievable!
 
Reminds me of this challenge we have here with ghost peppers and chicken wings
 
please edit your question to put long samples like that in pastebin
 
edit to remove what is currently there to shrink the size please
Thanks
 
2:35 AM
I have 2 csv source and dest, how do put the correspondint pathCode in dest csv using OrderID as key from source. csv is pasted in the link ideone.com/TZQFFx
 
@idjaw yup, in the California sunshine.
 
2:53 AM
@pythonRcpp what is dest?
Just kick off a program, but it is running like forever...
 
what have you tried @pythonRcpp? Can you show a minimal example of your attempt and explain what issues you are facing
 
3:13 AM
@idjaw got it working thanks everyone !
 
3:40 AM
Well done @pythonRcpp
I just posted my question online, guys and gals. Please let me know if you have insight!
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Q: Running Time Estimate for Stream Twitter with Location Filter in Tweepy

Linguistics StudentI need help to estimate running time for my tweepy program calling Twitter Stream API with location filter. After I kicked it off, it has run for over 20 minutes, which is longer than what I expected. I am new to Twitter Stream API, and have only worked with REST API for couple of days. It looks...

ninety nine everyone. have a good one!
 
 
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Are
4:54 AM
I posted a question about data visualization with pandas DF, anyone can answer ?
Its here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42709848/how-to-visualize-the-pandas-dataframe-with-line-graph?noredirect=1#comment72541844_42709848
 
 
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5:58 AM
cbg
 
@LinguisticsStudent @Are please see the room rules, especially the part asking you not to link new questions here.
cbg
 
6:38 AM
I have to program something to scan a circle code (like qr code but in a circle). What learning resources would you recommend me?
 
6:49 AM
cbg
 
7:10 AM
@linuscl "image recognition"
If you only need a specific pattern (probably not), "template matching"
 
8:00 AM
Cabbage
 
cbg
I reckon no-one's gonna miss stackoverflow.com/questions/42711529/… if it gets deleted ...
 
Hey, @ZeroPiraeus Please use the [tag:cv-pls] and [tag:delv-pls] syntax for close & delete requests. Some of us run extensions like [cv-pls] which only recognise the standard tag syntax.
 
Roger, wilco (figured it didn't much matter for a more-or-less immediate followup, but I see your point).
 
No worries.
 
8:57 AM
Cbg
 
9:15 AM
There really ought to be an auto-accept comment flag reason "wrote 'u' instead of 'you'".
4
grinds teeth
 
9:36 AM
cbg
 
Am I allowed to link my own repo in an answer?
Or is that shameless self promotion?
 
user6845426
cbg o/
 
@Withnail That's sounds ok to me. As long as the answer is still valid without the link, and the repo just adds additional info.
 
ta.
 
9:51 AM
I eh, realised that the repo has passwords in it, so I'll just use an abridged version of what I've got in the post, which is probably more helpful inline anyway.
Cool, thanks both!
cbg dipper
 
user6845426
how are you :D
 
@Withnail typo: consumer_secret = ****'
 
@Withnail Rightio. For future reference, see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/298734/… and some of the Related questions.
 
thanks, that's helpful (as is typo spotting).
It's rare that a question comes in that's quite so neatly in my wheelhouse.
I'm good dipper, what's happening today?
Today is Friday, so side projects and side-learning for me, mostly.
Finish off the wrangling-three-external-systems-via-SOAP-tool that I was working on (ugh)
 
user6845426
10:13 AM
Just working on my cnn... but like you said, it's friday. So not much 'work'
 
10:38 AM
I want to make a simple GUI application with Python that connects to a database, but I want to be able to do this even without internet. is there any way to do this?
are there*
 
@gloriousCatnip standard library to create gui in python is tkinter
 
to connect the GUI to do the database? Sure, you can do it TkInter to a localDB.
 
also pyqt is quite popular
 
Ninja'd by marxin. :)
 
1pa
11:09 AM
Hello, i have a python program that inserts rows into a database, and i can't stop the program. But i need to change same parameters in database like wal_level, archive_mode and max_wal_senders (postgresql). Can i do this changes even with my other program running?
 
11:44 AM
@1pa try asking in postgresql channel, because its more postgresql problem rather than python
 
12:09 PM
Hey, @MartijnPieters Any thoughts?
Sorry to pester you, but I'd love to know if any of the set methods which take an arbitrary iterable always convert their arg into a set or if they can do their stuff by directly iterating over the iterable's items, as mentioned in this comment. — PM 2Ring 2 days ago
 
12:32 PM
Surely it's got to setify it first, or there might be duplicates?
(By first I mean I know it might run over the data lazily, but it'd still keep track of elements and discard duplicates)
Shirley.
 
Man, the hot network question titles strike again
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Q: How can I reliably catch fish without drowning?

LessPop_MoreFizzFish are tasty and delicious and profitable and make for all kinds of very powerful food. The trouble is, they like to hang out in lakes and rivers and stuff, and are much faster swimmers than poor old Link. While I can usually catch a fish by hitting the 'Dash' button to swim quickly at them, th...

 
That game makes me want a Switch
 
@RobertGrant Well, dupes are taken care of since the resulting object is a set. Say we're doing c = a.union(b). a is a set, the destination object c is a set. So it can initialise c by copying a and then just iterate over the items in arbitrary iterable b and add them to c.
 
Yeah that's true
I guess it might be a performance enhancement to do it up front, but I guess each method could do whatever's best for it
 
I don't see how there'd be any benefit to converting b to a set up front if its items are getting added one by one to c. Sure you get rid of dupes in b, but they're going to be eliminated anyway when you add them to c, and you still have to eliminate items in b that are dupes of items in a.
I tried searching for a relevant SO question, but all I could find were answers saying how the set methods can take arbitrary iterables, with no mention of whether or not those iterables get converted internally. I tried to figure it out myself from the setobject.c source, but I got confused. :) I was hoping that Raymond Hettinger would enlighten me, but no luck on that front, so far.
 
1:16 PM
It irritates me that when I'm on a spotty Internet connection and Firefox fails to load a web page, sometimes instead of getting a 404 or "could not load page" or something, it just shows a blank page with the title "new tab". How am I supposed to know whether this is a failure mode or the actual intended page content?
And when I hit "refresh", it flickers for an instant and just shows "new tab" again, even when I've verified that my connection is now good. It doesn't even try to re-fetch the page.
On the flip side, sometimes a page appears to be successfully loading, slowly rendering text and images etc, and at some point gives up, erases all the page content, and shows "could not load page". Even if the content I was actually interested in had already loaded.
 
just got me new quietcomfort headphones and they are the best thing ever
 
any headphones kills my ears
I get ear infection and suffer for a week
 
1:36 PM
@Kevin "I've failed you, senpai. Let me hide this abomination from you, I wouldn't have you looking at a half-loaded page"
 
worth it
 
@khajvah really? Not just earphones but actual headphones?
 
"I successfully rendered this really funny cat picture, but failed to get the 300th Facebook comment from some rando you will never interact with. Welp, into the trash with everything I guess"
 
@Kevin I don't think I've seen those things on Firefox, but I'm running a fairly old version (29.0.1) on Linux. OTOH, I do get those behaviours on Chrome on my phone which runs a fairly recent version of Android. It keeps telling me to update Chrome; I guess I should get around to setting up a Google account...
 
When I use megapopular software and it exhibits glaring problems for months and it never seems to get patched or even mentioned by anyone else, I assume that it's my personal Field of Technological Destruction causing things to go consistently wrong.
 
1:41 PM
@Kevin "Loaded desired content, but was unable to load all of the paid advertisements, so this page must be treated as invalid."
 
@Kevin oh do all Kevins have that? I thought that was just me.
I just scrolled up and I have that exact same problem, so at least the Field's results are consistent
 
It's a genetic disorder passed down from my mother's side. She can render any handheld device inoperative in forty seconds.
"I tried to login to my email, but something went wrong" is the signal of an hour-long troubleshooting session in the Kevinson household
 
@corvid One of my nephews let me try his Bose bluetooth headphones a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, he wanted them back. ;)
 
sorry, I can't make a condensation joke right now
 
1:45 PM
The Pauli effect is a term referring to the supposed tendency of technical equipment to encounter critical failure in the presence of theoretical physicists, allegedly due to their extreme inability to handle them. The term was coined after mysterious anecdotal stories involving Austrian theoretical physicist Wolfgang Pauli, describing numerous instances in which demonstrations involving equipment suffered technical problems only when he was present. The Pauli effect is not related with the Pauli exclusion principle, which is a bona fide physical phenomenon named after Pauli. However the Pauli...
 
@AndrasDeak earphones don't hurt
I only use earphones
 
you're very weird
 
I guess it's because my ear canals are too small
headphones squeeze even more
 
that just doesn't make any sense to me
 
I, too, am prone to ear infections, and it makes some sense to me.
 
1:54 PM
seeeee, I am not weird
 
what I don't get how headphones are worse than earphones, and how headphones squeeze an ear canal
maybe I'm the weird one here
 
they put pressure from the outside
 
I assume by "headphones" we're referring specifically to the kind that has padding that forms a complete seal around your ear
 
again, I don't know if squeezing is actually the reason, I am just guessing
@Kevin yeah
 
Yeah from my own anecdotal experiences, putting pressure on the deeper parts of the canal correlates with getting an infection. In contrast, just obstructing your outer ear with an earbud isn't going to hurt anything.
 
1:58 PM
interesting
 
I have no idea what the actual mechanism would be there though. Bacteria likes tight spaces or something?
Or maybe it disrupts the ear's natural self-cleaning process in some way
 
plus those make your ears sweat, humidity is also a contributor
 
Yeah
 
maybe that
 
cbg'noon
 
2:02 PM
I'm still open to the possibility that it's all just confirmation bias, but we're not going to know one way or another until my "research my ear" grant proposal gets approved
 
2:14 PM
\o cbg :D
 
Cbg
 
how goes it on this fine Friday morning ?
 
it's almost the end of the day
so it's lovely
 
It's snowing here, after two days of 50F temperature or greater.
 
Yup snowing here... -6 C, with wind chill -13 C :D
 
2:19 PM
Our informal bad weather policy here is "at the very first sign of snow sticking to the ground, leave immediately". Right now it's all just turning into puddles.
Those who do not have a hair trigger for evacuation will find themselves idling in the parking lot for forty five minutes because the three exit lanes out of the compound are not sufficient to get all 15 buildings worth of people off the property in parallel
 
Are you outside parking or "covered" parking?
 
Outside.
 
Ours is "too bad, make it to work."
 
oh no.... I forgot my breakfast burritos at home in my fridge :(
 
2:25 PM
I've outsourced my transportation. I just crawl to the bus stop and sit tight playing games or chatting on SO.
 
No wonder I was getting hungry and looking for something to fill me belly :(
@AnttiHaapala If you don't mind me asking, is your city's public transit reliable?
 
it is "slightly" cheaper too. And I can use the same means to get home even if I am wasted.
the buses are pretty much on schedule and they have GPS transmitter on every single one of them, I can view all the buses in real-time and there's a trip planner program on android
so I say "from here where I am standing at" to "This street that number" and it will give me the optimal connection.
1 month costs less than 10 gallons / 40 litres of gas...
 
:\ must be nice.... in theory, here in the upper city, we have ways to track the bus, but it's not very reliable. I remember waiting 40 minutes for a bus that should have came within 10, upon arrival of said bus, 3 other came with it. I wonder if there was a jam or something :\
Also our public transit doesn't take me to my work place :\ I would have to transfer 3 buses to make it to work. I envy your infrastructure.
 
That's some amazing public transit. I want.
Ours is, "Public transit, what's that?"
 
2:36 PM
but this is sht compared to helsinki :D
 
eh, welcome back Wayne, :D
 
like, there is subway that operates with 3 minute intervals in rush hours. People actually are pissed off when they do not make it and they need to wait 3 minutes more...
 
Rush hour trains come every 1-2 minute, but the thing is, you can't really cram on.... so you end up waiting for the next 2 or 3 trains :D
 
of course the truth is that outside the town, a car might be faster, if you can get a parking lot...
 
sometimes you get lucky and the system will send an empty train, and it feels like you won the lottery for the day :D
 
2:39 PM
but it is much more relaxing to sit in a train and read news, work on laptop etc.
 
@Kevin Your answer here looks like it's Python 2 compatible. Is it? I think it's probably perfect as a dupe target for this
 
I agree, I love trains, if we had trains instead of buses that would be lovely, don't know how economical it would be, maybe we adopt the system Japan uses where they bike to the station.... or if we had trains instead of planes. Imagine... week long trips instead of a day :D
 
NY/NJ had some decent public transit. A bit silly that they have so much human operation - why bother paying people to do jobs that computers can do better?
 
@WayneWerner well, in Helsinki they were trying to automatize the subway...
... then siemens bailed out :D
they were like "no way we can do this"
 
Psh. If SpaceX can land a rocket then I'm pretty sure subway automation is reasonable. After all, you're really only worried about 2 dimensions and not running trains into each other.
 
2:43 PM
2 dimensions?
trains run in 1 dimension only.
 
@PM2Ring Yeah, it should be 2-compatible. That's probably what I tested it under in the first place.
 
@AnttiHaapala well, depends on whether you can switch tracks, right?
 
it is still only 1D for the train itself.
 
I notice my second code block contains a print x, which is a bit embarrassing for me, that I didn't notice the 3.X tag
 
@WayneWerner I read that New York takes their late time really seriously, like rivals to Tokyo's, maybe not as serious has Tokyo, but still.. I heard that New York also has a 99% on time rating. :D
 
2:45 PM
@MooingRawr While I was there, it was pretty reliable
 
I could have shaved off a line or two if I had used yield from there, I think...
 
in Helsinki especially the streetlights are tuned for the busses.
 
@AnttiHaapala Hong Kong also has a really strong train system. It's run by an AI which is really interesting. It too has a 99.x% up time. newscientist.com/article/… :D
I love trains :D
 
One of my friends is super into public transit. He likes drawing transit maps and optimizing routes and things
@AnttiHaapala That's super nice. And the way it should be.
 
2:49 PM
@Kevin There are now 2 clunky answers that count os.sep, although JFF also added recursive code that tracks recursion depth, andthe OP accepted one of them. But I'm still tempted to hammer it...
 
Optimize for public transit and make it work really well
 
Obviously I'm biased, but I wouldn't object strenuously to a hammer here
 
@Kevin Yeah, yield from does make neater code, but of course it breaks Py2 compatibility .
 
user6845426
cbg o/
 
@Kevin Hammered.
 
2:56 PM
I think Tokyo still beats New York for transit seriousness, because in NY you can't get an official certificate that the train was delayed that you can use as a permission slip for being late to your job.
A delay certificate (遅延証明書, chien shoumei sho, "certificate of lateness") or Bescheinigung über Zugverspätung ("certificate about train delay") is a documentation of proof issued by a railway company that its scheduled passenger train arrived at a station later than what is stipulated in the company's scheduled timetable. This practice is only prevalent in private and public Japanese railway companies and Germany's Deutsche Bahn, where a well-established reputation for its trains' punctuality exists and its passengers take for granted that they always operate on time. Parisian RATP also issues...
"passengers take for granted that they always operate on time". Oh the luxury of functional transit systems
 
Oh indeed. In Finland we take it for granted that they are never on time.
 
@WayneWerner send them this: youtube.com/watch?v=qGllzWt0acU
 
In the parts of America that don't happen to be one of the biggest cities in the world, you might count yourself lucky if your bus deigns to show up at all
 
I looked at the public transit in the city of Mobile, Al, and they were like "once per hour, on weekdays, a bus goes from nursing home to mental hospital"
 
@Kevin that's cool
 
3:10 PM
I have mixed feelings about delay certificates because a certificate absolving you from the offense of being five minutes late to work, implies that you're living in a society where being five minutes late to work is an offense that requires absolution.
 
Also if you are late even but not late enough for a Delay ticket, one of the Train operator/ train worker in Japan would personally walk down and apologize
 
@IljaEverilä :P
 
Japan is a wonderful place, but I would not want to work there. :\
 
the thing is in Finland, the trains are late...
 
@WayneWerner does he have a train system in his house? I want to build one for my house :(
 
3:14 PM
Anime teaches me that the life cycle of a native there is "enjoy the first 7/8ths of primary school, then work yourself to death studying for college entrance exams, then goof off for four years, then work yourself to death doing 12 hour shifts as a salaryman in addition to mandatory social outings with coworkers"
 
in such a manner that: why are the trains always late, and the answer is ... well there are four factors, namely: winter, spring, summer and autumn :D
 
Here in the upper city, we have city level trains which comes when they come, (they have estimates but more than often aren't accurate), province level, which are better, with a fix schedule and a nation wide train. All of them have weather delays if it snows (3+ cm) / rains (5+mm)
@Kevin 12 hours plus under paid over time work :D
 
Leaves on track. Snow on track. Floodwater on track. Moose on track.
 
or body on track.
 
@Kevin don't forget protecting a disturbingly young-looking girl from alien mecha
That's the other bit
 
3:16 PM
You joke about the moose, but theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/… :\
 
@RobertGrant Yeah it's harder to place "become an anime protagonist" into the timeline because it can go in between any of the other steps
But not after 'become a salaryman' because protagonists are never ever older than 30.
Unless they're a ten thousand year old demon that looks 25.
 
That's true
 
^ locomotive at helsinki station, that's after it decimated 3 meese :P
 
3:18 PM
But when you're a 12400 year old demon who looks 31, you're done
 
So that's what three mooses worth of blood looks like.
 
@AnttiHaapala yikes
 
@Kevin I would like to answer with "What is Naruto" :D
There are anime where MC is over 30+, rare, but there are some
 
and then of course people were complaining about things like "why didn't they wash it"
and if it was washed, then they'd be complaining "why was it delayed"
 
Hi there!
can someone help me with Django?
i have a form with MultiChoiceField. I set the choices in contructor, like this f = myform(choices=(('images', 'http://blabla.com/image.jpg),). How can i render this image in template in <img> tag? I try to set image url to this in choices list <img src="image.jpg> but on my page i don't have image, i have a raw text. Also i try render field of my form like that: {{ form.images|safe }}, but nothing changes.
 
3:28 PM
Nier: Automata chat: finished ending A last night. There are apparently 26 endings.
Also finished ending K, which was amusing.
 
I did not know there's 26 endings. I hope people won't spoil the game for me, I've been avoiding any topic of Nier since the launch. 17th needs to come faster :(
I'm assuming you like the game since you finished 2 endings already
 
All the other games had multiple endings, so I don't think that's a spoiler. Although the others only had 3-5.
I can't talk about ending K without spoilers, but it wasn't hard to get.
 
I want at least one of the endings to be completely ridiculous a la Silent Hill's dog ending
 
Lol I've never heard of that
 
@Kevin the Nier and Automata timelines are based on the joke Drakengard ending where the protagonist and his dragon get warped to modern day Japan then get shot down by the air force. So you're in luck there.
 
3:33 PM
@davidism It's not a spoiler on how many ending a game has, just hoping others don't spoil the game is all :D
 
I'm glad that there's room in the world for fractally weird media.
 
@PM2Ring sets iterate, no copy needs to be made.
 
4:10 PM
cabbage, all. Been a busy week
 
4:20 PM
Thanks @MartijnPieters
 
bye folks
 
@AnttiHaapala That's amazing
 
4:37 PM
Can I ask if a Python answer to my own question is 'overkill' here, lol
oh yay you mean the site that finally responds to web queries :P
(wasn't working yesterday)
 
Wait sorry your question is tricking me up. My brain isn't working. will retry later .
Oh no rules still apply, just ask the question.
 
DSM
Brief Friday cabbage.
 
Brief?!?!?! you found a way to speed up work days? Please share :D
 
@DSM share this speed up technique
you shall become billionaire
 
@PM2Ring blaah. no phaser.
 
DSM
4:46 PM
Unfortunately my techniques are the sort where they lose their potency if everyone does them, so I need to keep them secret.
 
@DSM Insane infinite caffeine intake via IV drip? Making your brain run at fifty billion RPMs and thereby bends time around you to move it faster? :P
(I'm sorry, but I"m not sorry for that :P)
 
DSM
Lunchtime! (told you it would be brief)
 
So this "Lunchtime" is clearly a code name to some secret research/prototype. We must decode what it means.
 
www.youtube.com##div#feed
www.youtube.com##div.watch-sidebar
www.youtube.com##div.ytp-endscreen-content
avoiding all spoilers from youtube videos
also, this just makes youtube better
 
4:56 PM
OK, time to interview a candidate to replace me.
 
That sounds challenging.
 
5:14 PM
@holdenweb where you going ?
 
5:39 PM
@holdenweb !?
 
@MooingRawr To the interview :-P
 
I put my notice in towards the end of January, and leave in April. Going to be the CTO of a stress-management company ...
 
@holdenweb Oh congratz.
@Kevin GOT ME ;D
 
Thanks. And in the new environment I'll have to build a team, so start kissing up right away ;-)
 
I'm willing to hold your web for you :D (whatever that means, doesn't make sense to me)
 
5:53 PM
A systems engineer for the Internet backbone would be the one holding up our (inter)webs for us.
 
Well, plenty of time to talk about that. For now, I'm going home for the weekend. Have to get ready for a move to Hastings at the end of the month ...
 
The only Hastings that I'm terribly familiar with is the store, which I'm sure isn't what you meant :D
especially since they're shutting down most/all of them?
 
6:09 PM
@PM2Ring: I'm now looking closer at your answer there. You could have checked the Python 2 documentation before making such a sweeping statement about a feature missing in Python 2 :-)
 
DSM
6:29 PM
Hastings is also the last name of Poirot's friend from the Agatha Christie novels. #englishcozy
 
The only Hastings I'm aware of is Christopher Hastings, creator of the now-concluded webcomic The Adventures of Doctor McNinja
 
there was a battle there, so I know there's a place by that name
 
DSM
Norm(ans)!
 
@Kevin "I'm a Sys(iphus|tems) engineer"
 
DSM
+1 classical reference
 
6:36 PM
I made a Sisyphus reference in the C# room the other day but their icy silence indicated to me that they did not appreciate it.
 
DSM
I've appreciated your past work in the subject.
 
It's a miracle I even know who Sisyphus is, since he doesn't show up in Sandman or American Gods, which together comprise 90% of my education about the past
 
I thought it was a common adjective though, like herculean
 
In Norway, we nicknamed the bulldozer responsible for the municipal snowpile outside our office Sisyphus; forever doomed to push up snow onto a giant heap, with the snow melting at the end but more snow coming.
The snow pile at 1/3rd the size after melting for a while: flic.kr/p/6bQ7YW
 
@MartijnPieters that... is still huge...
 
6:48 PM
@ThomasWard loads of snow in Norway.
 
I believe it.
 
I'm gonna need a peer reviewed independent study before I'm willing to entertain any claims about this "snow" substance
 
@MartijnPieters Do kids enjoy trying to climb those 'mountains' of snows?
 
@MartijnPieters hmm, I saw similar in Uppsala (Sweden)
 

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