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15:00
That's the real life lesson here.
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It weirds me out that people sexualize the main tank I play in the game
"I like my women how I like my coffee." "What, imported from a 3rd world country in a burlap sack?"
I'm actually kinda interested in Overwatch, but I don't have Windows. Also, once I got it I know I'd be terrible.
@Kevin looks intersting, I will read it later
I want to start playing Overwatch because my friend that lives a hundred miles away plays it and there's really not much else we can do together, and my friend that lives half a block from me plays it and he seems to be becoming disinterested in the things we used to have in common so it would be nice if we could re-bond over something to lessen the likelihood of not talking to one another for the next twenty years
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15:01
@davidism So what? You can party up with my group of (IRL) friends who are good and will carry us
... But first I need to upgrade from my potato-quality laptop.
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@Kevin Srsly, get it.
The main issue is the lack of Windows, not the lack of skill. Unless you all have it on PS4.
@Jovito I would word it more carefully: you are invoking the function and assigning the value it returns to a
I wish I knew about the "free weekend" thing that happened before it was actually over. I could have seen what kind of framerate I'd get.
15:02
make it clearer that the function is being called
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The art style completely made me think I'd hate it, as was coming across a rather...creepy... set of drawings fans made of the female characters. But I bought it and was giggling as I flew around the map in a robot suit within like 10 minutes of starting it up.
overwatch is fun, but personally, playing solo gets really boring, it's a fun game with friends though. Also if you play ladder, the salt levels there........ is almost on par with League or Dota.
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@davidism I think I have a windows 7 license that I can just give you
Luckily I am completely immune to any weirdness emanating from a product's fandom.
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Or, if you trust windows the same amount that I do, save the game files to a separate partition and just use the windows 30-day licensing period as a "0day free for X days" sign
15:05
teach me kevin... I am weak when it comes to product fandom... and it's the reason why I got overwatch in the first place.
@tristan I'm a junkrat player because I can't seem to do well with anything else :P
do you just give up your soul ?
@Jovito oops, I mean to b
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@Kevin Yeah, kind of. Overwatch is reliant on team-based play, so it would mean interacting a lot with the fans
This is the first video I ever saw of Overwatch. The guy's actually pretty creative, his other videos aren't game related.
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15:06
Yeah, D.Va is my jam, as people would totally expect from me.
@MooingRawr I get by with a mix of 1) radical acceptance of the Universe as a chaotic and bizarre place, full of things that I would not personally approve of; and 2) complete disinterest in the opinion of anyone other than myself.
I suggest meditation and autism respectively for those.
@Jovito looks like he changed the question and invalidated your answer anyway
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@Programmer That works. My buddies do the healer (mercy?), one swaps between junkrat and others, one does the hog guy with the hook or that paladin guy with the shield
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I use DVa to get behind the enemies and grief so they chase me instead of taking objectives
My roommate's really into Overwatch right now, I'm sure I'd get a million tips if I started playing.
15:11
I haven't played in a while but when I feel like being annoying I play Mei.
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I've played for about 6 hours, so I guess you could say I'm crazy legit
Just have to get a second hard drive so I can dual boot without reformatting my Linux stuff.
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@davidism aaaand subscribed
I'm usually Mercy but I'm trying to branch out more into DPS
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15:19
One of the people that I play with mains mercy and we were just tearing things up because I could grief people into chasing me to where we had bastion camped up
@KevinMGranger try for solder or reaper, both are fairly easy dps to get into.... if you've played csgo and is fairly decent at it, try mc "greed" or if you just wanna be a hyper annoying person play tracer
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@MooingRawr yeah, overwatch is totally for casuals. i played mccree and noticed that ducking for ranged accuracy and recoil weren't a thing
I'm already fairly decent with soldier and reaper. I'm also surprisingly decent with Hanzo, so I might try to get scarily good with him just to piss off people in competitive
i think the list of ease of dps characters from easy to hard is: genji, soldier, reaper, pharah, mc cree, and then tracer
Yet I suck as genji :( I don't channel my inner weeb enough
15:22
@tristan I was merely suggesting that mc cree plays like csgo's head shot mentality where csgo players (high ranking ones) always aim for the head and usually get head shots
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@MooingRawr oh totally, i was building on top of that
@KevinMGranger genji is close range melee and then reflect while running away if ur in trouble... and jump like a monkey making you harder to hit... idk
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genji's sword reflect is the bane of D.Va
it's also the bane of bastions
15:24
I love the new d'va so much more fun to play
cabbage
\o how goes it
I suck at structuring data
Can anyone explain how this sorts my given input list?
def sortedList(x,y):

    if x[0] != y[0]:
        return x[0] - y[0]
    else:
        return y[1] - x[1]

myList = [[1,1],[2,2],[3,4]]
 sorted = sorted(myList, cmp = sortedList)
I think it's a comparator function
it defines how the data should be compared
15:34
I understand that the cmp is doing some fun stuff, but not sure how it sorts it :/
That's the old way to sort things by the way, you should be passing key instead of cmp nowadays.
It sorts by the first elements if the first elements aren't equal. If the first elements are equal, it sorts by the second elements.
... But I'm pretty sure that's how sort works even if you don't provide custom comparison logic, so I'm not sure what the point is.
I feel like implementing it as a class with a __gt__, __lt__ and __eq__ is a bit more understandable... but I might be totally wrong
Ahh, so the sorted combined with cmp allows it to work?
15:35
> cmp specifies a custom comparison function of two arguments (iterable elements) which should return a negative, zero or positive number depending on whether the first argument is considered smaller than, equal to, or larger than the second argument
It's all there in the docs.
Incidentally, using sorted as a variable name is a bad idea because now you can never use the function sorted afterwards
and sortedList isn't a great function name for a comparator function, because it does not actually return a sorted list.
@Kevin well... you could do del sorted :p
And again, using cmp is inefficient (and confusing) compared to using key.
I feel like if you're using del in production quality code, something has gone horribly wrong.
I don't know what to think about this trailer.
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15:38
@davidism When was the last time she was good in anything?
Hollywood is a blind idiot that scrabbles heedlessly towards anything that might make money
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Here's my official review: Highly stylized, great special effects, acting and reliance on stuff for the popcorn breathers in the audience will make it hugely forgettable.
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Come back after the movie releases to tell me how right I was.
The Internet told me that half of the main characters from the show aren't in the movie. Brace yourself for "creative liberties".
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I hope I get two more documentation votes so my rep is 8888
15:42
@tristan still not 10k? You're not procrastinating in the right place! :p
That's a very nice character conflict between two protagonists that are fully cyberized and fully biological respectively... It would be a shame if something happened to it. Like get cut to make room for more explosions.
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@JonClements I'm watching youtubes and passively staring at the 10 panes I have open with the broken frankenstein's monster of javascript I've written!
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@Kevin Yeah that had to get cut for more slow down boomy boomy explody with the dramatic "BuhSchewwwwwww"sound
That makes you Frankenstein.
It looks cool, but it feels like they're being way less subtle than the original (and also cramming in things from SAC).
I got pulled away in the middle of typing that by my boss going "hey what are you working on today".
Uh...
15:45
I've only ever seen SAC because that's the only one that aired at two in the morning on Cartoon Network during the Insomnia Phase of my adolescence
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Arguing about anime-inspired things on the internet, boss!
does anyone here like ska music at all?
@Jovito much better
I like CAKE, does that count?
I heard a reel big fish song once
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15:46
@corvid Do you believe in the horseshoe theory of opposing opinions? If so, I hate it so much that I have a lot in common with people that love it.
Do you believe in the snowshoe theory of opposum onions?
I don't like admitting unpopular opinions in public, but my... friend... loves ska.
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...teboarding?
@tristan but, it's so happy and upbeat, and sometimes it is in spanish and spanish sounds friendly
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@corvid but...brass instruments. and how it sounds. and also the lyrics and fans.
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15:48
How many Ska bands does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Let the fandom pass over you. You are the rock in the stream.
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One to drop it and the rest to pick it up, pick it up, pick it up
hahaha
@doug65536 :D
you don't like streetlight manifesto's nanananananana every song?
Lightbulb jokes are the best/worst
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15:51
How many lightbulbs does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Fast and bulbous.
@tristan one?
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I'm actually asking
DSM
DSM
Three, because [line noise] cabbage for all!
At least one, if we interpret that as "how many are necessary for the task" and not "can a lightbulb screw in a lightbulb and if so how many are needed"
15:54
Oh yeah [line noise] makes perfect sense!
@tristan Depends on how many you break with the screwdriver when you screw them in
How many python devs does it take to screw in a lightbulb? (I don't know the punchline to this, someone help)
@KevinMGranger I would say "depends on which version of python you are running"
> One. He just stands below the socket and the world revolves around him
16:05
@KevinMGranger None - it's a hardware problem? :p
I'll accept that one if you change it to None :P
bloomin' heck - I'm missing the easy puns recently
It's done! I did it. Just finished my talk
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Ooh, I'm hearing a rumor that NASA found measurable thrust produced by the EM Drive. Too bad the two links provided go to pages that ask me to disable my ad block, because I'm not doing that even if the laws of physics are about to be overturned.
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@idjaw You gave it?
16:07
@tristan yeah. Unwinding with a coffee now
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nice! well done
thanks :)
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@Kevin: let's put it this way, if there were a company to short, I'd invest big.
pineapple
My own opinion is holding steady at "cautiously optimistic but not making any investments besides an emotional one"
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16:09
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this is basically how it works
@idjaw your presentation to your company ?
Be a dear and forward that image to NASA, would you? That ought to clear everything up for them.
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@Kevin I received a very polite, but yet very stern, letter from NASA asking me to no longer submit explanations or drawings of prototypes.
Don't want to get on their bad side, or they'll de-orbit a couple satellites over your neighborhood.
16:12
@MooingRawr no. A conference hosted here on Montreal
@davidism pen
@MooingRawr no. A conference hosted here in Montreal
"Whoops, those were supposed to go in the ocean. Forgot to compensate for daylight savings time, tee hee"
@KevinMGranger don't even start
that was some innocent salad
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16:19
if it wasn't for big science lobbyists, we'd have already used my machine to get to mars
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p.s. yay for 8888
@idjaw oh nice, congratz, xD What's the next goal, do one at PyCon? I would pay to see that xD
then again I would pay to go to any Pycons I can xD
Oh @tristan changed again? I think vaultah bit him in the Dark Council and has infected him. :/
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@BhargavRao wat
vaultah suffers from "change your avatar every 30 days" disease.
16:23
Tristan's avatar keeps metamorphosizing every month because he lives in a Kafka novel but won't take the hint
@BhargavRao "suffers"
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it's like a franz kafka novel, but about awesome people instead of a sniveling little man
@vaultah Yep ;)
you know, a black avatar looks even cooler
@MooingRawr that would be cool. Even though openstack is developed using Python, I don't know if it has a place there .
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16:33
@idjaw close enough
if you believe hard enough, anything is related to snek python
Well, don't trigger another "what does this have to do with python"
I only heard this secondhand from other attendees, but however many years ago, someone was giving a talk on academic open access, and Guido yelled from the audience the quote above
Bonjour pythonauts.
Had a weirdness today, two people separately trying to contact me direct for extra help based on SO posts. Seems potentially problematic. Anyone had this before? How did it work out...
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@JRichardSnape I've had it happen a couple times. First time, I responded with "open another question" and the person basically responded with "just help me anyway". Next, I just ignored.
@tristan Mmmm, that was going to be my general approach I think. Both requests look like time hoovers anway.
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16:41
I'd just ignore it.
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Squeeky wheel should get taken off the wagon, not greased.
Sounds like a good plan.
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How are you? How's life?
Aww, clicked on your avatar as I saw it had changed. Was hoping for a provoking photoshop of Trump in the helmet.
@tristan I'm well. 3 x 2hrs of the same seminar on Complex numbers down today, so my brain is mush.
inb4 - how would we tell the difference...
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@JRichardSnape Meh. I don't want to get political as I'm glad Hillary lost, but not glad Trump won.
16:43
Yeah - I kinda discerned that was your position.
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6 hours on complex numbers sounds mentally exhausting.
It was
Although I enjoyed taking them on a ride through how they have progressively got more complicated descriptions of what constitutes a number, from learning to count, then negatives/fractions, then irrationals and so - "To the Argand plane!"
Still - I'm whacked now.
Gotta do a bit of admin and then off home.
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nods politely
so did they
;)
rbrb folks
16:57
cbg
graah, bitbucket api mostly sucks.
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Why are you using bitbucket?
Routes!
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A: Using Pi as a router doesn't Internet - funky iptables?

Wayne WernerTurns out that it wasn't IP tables at all. It looks like something was horked up with my routing table. Flushing my routes with $ sudo route -n flush at the terminal several times, clearing my custom DNS entries, and turning my wifi off and then on again allows me to connect pr...

@AnttiHaapala That's because it's from Atlassian
@tristan free private repos for teams up to 5
True story
@WayneWerner my company uses Atlassian.... i have zero clue when things don't work and then magically work if you try it again with out changing anything lol
17:03
Doesn't GitLab have free private repos infinitely?
@MooingRawr That's roughly my experience with them. That, and UIs that either show too much, or not enough
does gitlab have api?
does it have teams?
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@AnttiHaapala Fair enough. Gitlab has free repos and an API and you don't have to give money to Atlassian
(I haven't used)
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I think Gitlab will eventually eat Github's lunch.
17:05
I wouldn't mind :D
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I think the name is "groups" for Gitlab.
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Yeah, Github was first mover, but have done a number of alienating things.
but what I need is multiteam support with single acco, I have 4 teams of <= 5 people each, all of them have infinite private repos.
and deploy keys.
that's what we're using the api for, managing deploy keys
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I'm sure those features are supported, without looking.
and webhooks
and... 2FA
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17:07
gitlab.com/help yeah ^F for those is finding hits
so what's the gotcha here
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I imagine pull request interface and quick search is one of the features that will take a bit.
not using either
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@AnttiHaapala They weren't first mover. I don't even see a way to give them money
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17:11
Once my current company is in a more stable state/running beta in non "oh shit" mode, I'll probably pay them for enterprise, whether or not I actually use the features.
no problem about paying. problem about headache of getting an approval :d
because I am not paying anything using my personal credit card FFS
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And that's why I'm happiest in startups. It's cheaper/saner to just drop $500 onto a credit card than to have 5 people each spend an hour in process, then do it
Any Django experts here that could help me determine whether I should be using Django-polymorphic models or just regular models on my site?
@tristan hmm gitlab is slow
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@AnttiHaapala shrug i hadn't had that experience and i'm not in a place to objectively test
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17:16
@YPCrumble sopython.com/chatroom check out room rules
Thanks @tristan will post my question
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@YPCrumble Cheers :)
(let me know if that wasn't your suggestion :))
I have a site, an MVP of which is omnifollow.com
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@YPCrumble No, it was. The "don't ask to ask, just ask" is common enough that we've considered even putting it in the room description
It allows you to follow things that I call Feeds. I have a Feed model. Every feed has a name, an option for the user to determine the frequency with which they want to get notifications, and other options common to all feeds
17:19
I love the delightful irony of being able to sign up for gitlab with your github or bitbucket account
> You can create up to 100,000 projects.
stupid gitlab, need to import repo by repo, can't do en masse
Well, that ought to be enough for anyone
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@AnttiHaapala Then add the feature -- it's open source code and you get free repos. (I realize this is a smarmy response, but hey. maybe the API supports iterating?)
The thing is that as my site grows, I'm finding that some feeds have unique fields. For instance, an RSS feed needs a field for the RSS URL. Currently, I am considering reworking my `Feed` model so that it's a PolymorphicModel - this way I can have a `ListView` of all feed objects, and when I go to a `DetailView` of something like an `RSSFeed` object it can have the extra fields - for instance the rss_url field.

The alternative is that my `Feed` model would become bloated with a bunch of `blank=True`, `null=True` fields like `rss_url` that would only be useful for one model type.
@AnttiHaapala why not just write a python script to enumerate your repos, add the remote/path and then push?
17:21
so was the bitbucket api client
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yeah, the API client was open source. not the API.
@WayneWerner because there is metadata beyond that
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life is hard sometimes
ah noo :D
it actually can import multiple repos
well, there you go then
17:22
The reason I would want the Feed model to be polymorphic is that I want to use different urls and views (custom) if the Feed is actually an RSSFeed, for instance
@tristan ahem :/
nöuuuh
it will create similarly named teams :/
@YPCrumble sounds like you actually need a feed.get() method, or something to that effect
perhaps a feed.render()?
That way I can have a ListView of feed objects on my main page, and the get_absolute_url for a regular feed object can just be that feed's slug. For instance, "omnifollow.com/best-hacker-news-stories"...and if I have an RSS feed, I can give it its own URL conf, something like "omnifollow.com/rss/rss-slug-here" which points to a different view in the URLConf
@WayneWerner is that different from a DetailView? Not sure I understand what you mean
I see you have some accurate FAQs ;)
LOL yeah pulled from a different site I built :P
Q: "Why doesn't this site work at all?" A: "Because the programmer is currently trying to figure out whether his models are FUBAR or not!"
17:27
It's been a while since I've used Django... Rather than focusing on the Y of your problem (how you're trying to accomplish it) what's the X of your problem (i.e. the thing you actually want to do)?
TIL: __bases__ is writable.
@MartijnPieters where are you using it :D
>>> Bar.__bases__ = (Bar,)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: a __bases__ item causes an inheritance cycle
bleh
>>> Bar.__bases__ = (int,)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: __bases__ assignment: 'int' deallocator differs from 'Foo'
bleh x2
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Q: Overriding __bases__ in a metaclass

SJ PaltIs it possible to override the __bases__ field of a metaclass (i.e. class deriving from type) using a get-set property? The following code works for getting C.__bases__, but not setting it: class Meta(type): @property def __bases__(cls): print('Getting __bases__ via Meta.__bases_...

>>> x = Bar()
>>> isinstance(x, Baz)
False
>>> Bar.__bases__ = (Baz,)
>>> isinstance(x, Baz)
True
and who thought this was a good idea...
Someone who wanted to rewrite inheritance in a metaclass's __init__ instead of __new__, I guess
17:41
these things are awful.
can't cache method lookups, because someone can change your MRO in between...
and... 19 minutes
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Could still cache them in the common case, just need a "has_mutated" flag or something. I think we're now doing something of the sort for attributes or whatever. (I lost interest even as I was speaking so didn't bother to activate the part of my memory which actually works.)
wim
wim
Wow, a coherent question from a rep 1 user
have you ppl tried, heard about whim?
mobility as a service
ah obviously not tried yet :D
18:00
I got a weird sorting function to deal with :\
@corvid not javascript again
@AnttiHaapala sorta. Just a weird use case for sorting, and I think an if statement will make it run super slowly
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just ask the question :)
@MartijnPieters Bases might be writable, but proxydicts aren't updateable, are they?
It's basically a chat room, but there can be group chats. Each object can have an array of users
If the array is size 2, it should filter out the current user and sort this "sub array" by offline/online status.
But then it should sort the "group chats" (the ones with more than two users in that array) within that array by a timestamp of last message
Can't find a very efficient method for handling it
18:06
Aah, but __bases__ doesn't live in the class __dict__, does it?
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heh, dunderbold
@ConstantinM welcome, please read our room rules
Hey david, ok thanks
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@corvid: I'm a Javascript anti-expert, but is it really true that one branch on the length of an array before the sort will cause that much of a slowdown?
@davidism sorry, got it ;-)
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18:10
@corvid This seems like a very small "n" for any O(n).
@DSM I think the branching conditionals are the problem. I was thinking that for optimization, it would be easier to pick out the "group chats" (which should always be small), sort the original array, then place the group chats in order back into the original array
TIL mro has some nice neat tricks to em
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If you have control over when the chats are instantiated and how "user joins chat" action is handled, you could do a bi-user array and a multi-user array. Sounds like more trouble than its worth though unless group chats are fixed membership
I can show you the data structure
DSM
DSM
So the API failure I was talking about the other day has now escalated into a Problem, with meetings being scheduled between their VIPs and our own. Blek.
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18:18
@DSM What does the API do?
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@corvid branching sort mechanisms for presence of some attribute doesn't seem that ugly to me. especially not for JS.
@DSM good luck mate
election ends in 1 hour cabbage
\o how goes it andras
fine, thanks, what about you??
18:20
eating lunch and reading about __base__ and __new__ interesting stuff that i dont think i will touch in 10 years
__new__ might come up if you want to subclass something equally weird
I tried subclassing something scipy-related once and the attributes just didn't add up, I suspected that __new__ was to blame
Wow at tristan's new avatar. Very diva, much sass.
... my company's vending machine replaced coca cola with pepsi, I don't know how I feel about this.
OK guys, rhubarb
rhubarb
18:27
speaking of rhubarb, what does it taste like ?
DSM
DSM
@tristan: it's supposed to retrieve a bunch of numerical data and also query the metadata. Turns out that the metadata part is flaky.
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@MooingRawr take this as a sign to stop drinking pepsi or cocacola
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@DSM Ah, smart people stuff. If it was something I could reasonably provide, I'd try to be the new vendor :)
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@AndrasDeak D.Va is awesome is totally who you'd expect me to main as, no?
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@MooingRawr i literally have no response
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18:30
i don't even know if you're serious
@tristan the only thing I know about overwatch is her wiki page, so I find it hard to judge her objectively:P
maybe I should go find something to do (since my workplace's database is down and I can't do any work) before my sarcastic tone is going to get me into trouble.. sorry.
@MooingRawr rhubarb tastes like apple
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@MooingRawr I've spoken and worked with people in the past that would earnestly get upset and worried about unannounced changes to trivial, unimportant things
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@AndrasDeak she's a korean girl with a pink robot that goes pew pew and flies around. she presumably also likes cartoon bunnies :D
18:33
@AndrasDeak does it really? my local shops don't stock em so I actually don't know.
@tristan yeah I know all about her, it's the rest of the game that I don't know at all:D
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rhubarbs taste entirely unlike pineapples
Even better Tristan, according to the lore she livestreams everything she does in the mech. So when you're livestreaming playing D.Va, you're livestreaming someone livestreaming.
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@KevinMGranger Whoa, meta.
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I should stream again soon -- it's been a while.
18:33
No, Meka. Close
don't cross the streams
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Fallout 4 is slow and boring.
why play it if it's boring ?
he doesn't, anymore:P
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It somehow takes the backdrop of exploring a post-apocalypse world and makes it tedious, frustrating, and full of repetitive minutae.
18:35
right?:D
I thought that d.va stole his heart
and keyboard
i like dva's party emote xD
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yeah, what Andras said -- I started livestreaming it and then got tired of it. There's also massive control issues and once I played for a few minutes on a PS4 controller, I totally understood why -- it's meant for consoles and they didn't bother to make sure it mapped over sanely.
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Also, I have a rocket launcher and I'm meant to run errands for strangers. It's a world filled with annoying characters that you aren't allowed to kill.
or maybe the PS4 is so much superior to PCs that it beats the experience anytime *runs away*
18:37
I've never touched a fallout game in my life so I wouldn't know. I had my friend's stream on as background noise while he was playing it... didn't look like my cup of tea, cept the base building aspect of fo4...
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it's the surface illusion of non-solitary story lines. when i run into an annoying character, i immediately try to end them, and if they just get knocked down and not killed, that means i'll have to interact with them
>>> 'PC' > 'Console'
True
@tristan that's poor design (speaking as a non-gamer)
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ugh the base building was a huge warning sign to me -- it's a post apocalyptic world about exploration and learning how the environment works, yet they demand you spend all your time doing inventory management so you can build beds and keep annoying NPCs happy
user559633
@AndrasDeak agreed, as a gamer and someone interested in building games as vessels for relating to others via story telling
18:40
(recent) Bethesda games have always had world-intereaction and relationship issues. They're oceans that are 3 inches deep.
To be fair, I don't know of any game that gets that kind of stuff truly right. They find ways to frame everything so the issue is avoided
user559633
Good expression and I totally agree. I took a break in games and went from Morrowind->Fallout 3->Skyrim. The story and worlds became less immersive as time went on.
Never played Morrowind. I should get around to that
Most Bethesda games have some sort of inventory management though. I think you were a bit of a hoarder in Fallout 4, but they did want you to collect 'junk'...
user559633
Take a break from games for a while so that the graphics aren't shocking.
I can handle older graphics. I just pretend I'm nostalgia tripping even if I've never experienced it before.
18:43
dwarf fortress graphics ^^?
user559633
@Programmer After I stopped streaming, I also just stopped picking things up. There's an interface issue in that it's hard to get an answer to "how does X compare to Y?", which is made worse because you have dozens of X and the world is full of Y.

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