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16:01
Thanks, Wayne. Poor old M. Nakip is really struggling with the MCVE concept.
What would our equivalent of fantasy sportsball be? Fantasy enterprise software dev? Or fantasy startup dev? "I'll trade you Mark Cuban as an investor if you let me have John Skeet as lead dev." "In your dreams!"
Or, since fantasy football has been called "Madden: The Gathering", would it just be Magic?
Having never played Fantasy sportsball, I can't comment.
Although when Papa Kevinson is trying to decide what team to choose for his suicide pool, he makes the same face that I do when I'm trying to tighten up my decklist...
So there must be a common element.
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@KevinMGranger We have sportball fans here. "Our" fantasy sportsball is the same as "theirs".
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Magic Methods: The Dundering
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There are relatively few kinds of sportsball I don't follow. The semipro volleyball circuit, I guess
16:10
Ah, of course. *also adds to Normies draft*
Ok, that's my xkcd quota for the day.
im starting to think that there's an img that is on topic for most topic on xkcd...
I could really easily get into sports, if not for the apparent requirement of having a favorite team. How does one pick that? I can't just pick a team from where I was raised, because Mewtwo taught me that "the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are."
I don't actually listen to my family talk about sports, but Kevin Prime, the idealized version of me with all my strengths and none of my weaknesses, probably would.
That, and I'm from New York
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16:11
Even if Twitter didn't ban my account for making fun of XKCD, I don't know where I'd start with that one.
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XKCD is the Huffington Post of web comics.
Did you have an account banned from twitter? Or are you speaking hypothetically
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3 References Only Nerds Will Get.
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@KevinMGranger an? many.
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When I was a kid, I was mostly interested in hockey and nothing else.. took years before I realized the Lesser Sports could be fun too.
16:13
Hmm, I really thought this one wouldn't be objectionable to tristan. My predictive model for jimmies-rustling needs further calibration.
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@KevinMGranger: you're from New York and didn't imprint on the Yankees or the Mets, or the Giants or the Jets, early? Huh. Not sure I knew that could happen.
I think I need to increase the irritation coefficient for the "is comic infuriatingly twee?" factor
Oh look, it's the second-most recent entry on xkcd sucks: xkcdsucks.blogspot.com/2015/01/…
@DSM oh, I had the Mets imprinted on me extremely early. But that's why I can't root for them-- I'd like to see some winning games once and a while.
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My jimmies remain unrustled.
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@KevinMGranger: that restores my understanding of the universe, at least. But the Mets have won the World Series twice since the Leafs last hoisted the Cup.
16:16
I also might have been more interested if I didn't have so many youth league snafus. My parents assumed they'd teach us the rules of the game, and the coaches assumed we already knew most of the rules. I just went along with it until my first baseball game, where I was tagged out and cried because I didn't understand what was happening.
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I played OverWatch for hours yesterday. When I was playing, I realized that at times, my heart race increased and the corners of my mouth kept folding up. I think this is what people call "having fun?"
Oh, this is room 6, not my therapist's IM. Whoops.
@tristan or you were doing a Joker impression?
@tristan just the free weekend, or are you getting it?
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@KevinMGranger Dr Cuddlesburg is out today, please have a seat.
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16:16
Now, now, I thought we agreed we were going to support tristan's explorations of normal human feelings.
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@KevinMGranger Bought it after about 2 hours as maining D.Va
I was in Little League, briefly. I liked to sit in the outfield and pluck blades of grass.
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@JonClements I'd watch a Joker spinoff where he's a software engineer. "Why so serial cable"
Eeeexcellent. The people I usually play with have now far outpaced me in competitive, so I need some new people. And you'd be replacing another D.Va main!
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@KevinMGranger Awesome!
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16:18
I'm pretty good with D.Va because of years spent doing this:
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@tristan "I always confuse Christmas and Halloween because dec(25) is oct(31) hahaha... take that Batman!" ?
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@JonClements lol. i forgot most of the modern joker character because i found him second-hand embarrassing to watch, so i probably won't be top writer on this
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but just a dry cartoon of him making his elaborate devices
Ain't nothing wrong with Adam West era Joker.
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16:21
Joke's on you, Batman sends request using little endian byte ordering
Some things wrong with golden age era Joker, who loved "pulling boners" on perfect strangers
Bitman*, surely?
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He shoots, he scores
Let's add that to the list of potential nerdcop crossover episodes.
@tristan With the text in EBCDIC
16:25
@KevinMGranger I hang my head in shame for missing that :(
Ha. My Firefox spellchecker offers "BODICE" as a correction for "EBCDIC"
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@PM2Ring awesome
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Binary Object Decimal Interchange Code, Extended
Nice.
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> > You are in a room of acronyms, all alike.
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16:30
@KevinMGranger I'll send you a buddy request on Battlenet later. also, iirc, you wanted someone to compare "achievements" with on TIS-100 -- I bought it on GOG, so no achievement tracking :(
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I didn't realize choosing DRM-free meant losing video game badges. No one ever talks about the true costs of Freedom :(
Heh, I meant high score comparison, didn't realize there were cheevos. I actually meant to get DRM-free. I got it from the humblebundle store, assuming it was something other than just a steam key, but nope
Well, once I finish that RISCV game that I'm totally making progress on, we can compare with that.
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Cool, we can trade games -- I'm totally working on Nerdcop.
Hey guys
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o/ hey
16:34
I'm relatively new to Python, but I've been tasked with a project that requires me to write up a couple Py modules.
To be fair, I am actually making progress on the toy RISCV emulator part
hola
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@neet_jn I'd read the official Python tutorial docs.python.org/3/tutorial
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bluffers organic disbelieved infiltrating comical economist
blurriest ovulation doubloons isotopes completely emoluments
barrelled outdoors dafter inhabit caprices earthshaking
bamboos overwrought disservice invitingly crosschecks effigies
backslappers orphaning dipper irreconcilable cogitates excavator
bifurcate omelettes durable imperishable catholicity emergency
berate oversupplied disencumbers imperturbably compartment entombs
@idjaw good morning joe, are you happy that you beat my leafs team T.T
16:35
I'd like to ask if Python supports C++ style namespaces. I've dug around but can't find anything concrete.
@tristan, thanks for the resource.
Umm... randomly picking from a dictionary doesn't seem to work too well for "BODICE" :(
@MooingRawr Yep...especially Kadri. I don't like Kadri.
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@KevinMGranger Oh. :( I have story lines and routings for open player choices, as well as some character attributes fleshed out (e.g. how they would act in situations), but like 10 lines of code written. Trying to stay interested in webdev takes up like all of my work time.
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@neet_jn What do you want such a thing to do?
@idjaw may I ask why ?
16:36
He's filthy
He's such a dirty player.
Multiple offender and has had a few suspensions already. And that hit on Sedin was ridiculous. Him not getting suspended for that is a joke
I'd much rather split my project into modules, but my team wants to fetch a single module dynamically and load my resources in.
Though I know it isn't standard practice
@tristan I'm only making progress because it's making incremental improvements to someone else's unfinished one. If I had to start it myself I'd probably be in the same boat
@neet_jn What does "fetch a single module dynamically" mean? What does "load resources in" mean? What does that have to do with splitting a module into submodules?
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@neet_jn okay, how does your team see this working? they want to import neet_code and then be able to do something like neet_code.some_module ?
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@KevinMGranger Yeah, I'm waiting for my next ambition refresh to start writing it in earnest
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16:41
@idjaw, @MooingRawr: weekend, me to my father: DSM: "I hate losing to the Habs" DSMSR: "YUP". #united #family
Are you actually making a game for it? Using what? If you're looking at a visual-novel type game, RenPy is pretty nice.
@DSM I was watching the game, thought we did well but losing to the habs hurts T.T but better than boston xD
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@KevinMGranger Oh, interesting, I could probably rip through this in no time. I envisioned either an FPS or side-scroller using Unity
@DSM @MooingRawr You guys had a really strong third period. TBH, the rivalry isn't what it used to be. Remember back with Tucker and Kovalev? Those were intense!
@tristan that also works. I assume you'd use UnityScript, unless you're also familiar with C#?
16:45
The rivalry shift for both teams really went to Toronto/Ottawa and Montreal/Boston
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@KevinMGranger Was going to use the game partially as a vessel to write C#
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My Mom's a Sens fan. My Uncle was a Habs fan. He's no longer with us; my mother is. You can work out my ranking of the rivalries from that.
@idjaw I think it's a square right now. Leafs really hate those three teams, not as much as before (since newer guys and what not) but the fans still remembers .... I remember when the leafs had a bench clearing brawl against the sens and habs, Domi putting in work.
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@DSM Wow, here in the US, fans just drink at different bars. Canada is serious business
@neet_jn Python supports Python-style namespaces. It's generally not useful to try to understand Python's data model in C/C++ terms because Other languages have "variables", Python has "names"
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16:48
@idjaw: and yeah, I remember Tucker. I'd probably have hated him if he were on another team, but as it was..
@DSM and drafted by Montreal! :) So, yeah. I get the "if he was on my team..." bit. hehe
@idjaw I didn't think, I would see the day where I will get to meet someone who remembers that draft xD let alone the trade habs did to tampa, and then leafs giving up Mike Johnson for Darcy.... good times
@MooingRawr I'll just nod sagely or something... :)
@MooingRawr Oh I go way back with hockey...way back.
Remember the Peca and Darcy
16:53
ugh...yeah
that was horrible
remember in 06? they became "teammates"
yeah...it's crazy how you have to train yourself to turn the page when put in situations like that.
I only remember 90s-till now. I've only read about the 66-67-68 seasons but the rest is just a gap of emptiness
@JonClements guessing your a leafs fan or what are you ?
a confused English-puppy
Mr. Clements is across the pond where they refer to "soccer" by its real name
16:55
Kicky-runny-sport-fun?
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For some reason Claude Lemieux always made me angrier than other players. Don't know why.
@JonClements Thank you Nuppy :-)
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@idjaw soccerball? divey divey my ouchies ball nevermind i'm okay?
Is this the part of the conversation where I say "Oh it's on, America?"
and flex my Pythons?
@JonClements are you going to be upset if I told you I'm an Arsenal fan because of my mom? I remember some random dude at a mall yelling at me cause I was actively cheering for em on the big scrren.
16:57
I'm an Arsenal fan
go gunners
@DSM I know that feel but for Milan Lucic
I choose to believe that this "yelled at a stranger at the mall" story happened when you were, like, seven. And that the guy looked like this:
dunno how this discussion led to Arsenal....but...up gunners :)
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I would like Arsenal more if they were named Arrrsenal and took the field wearing pirate costumes instead of little soccer outfits
@Kevin I was 12, my mom went cloth shopping and I saw her team on the screen, and being the young kid I was who just wanted my mom to be happy, I was cheering for the red team, when this dude came up and went off saying how Aresnal is bad and I shouldn't root for a bad team and this and that
16:59
@DSM Oh...you are not the only one. I think you and I grew up in the same hockey generation. So I think we dislike the same players :)
well...save for the habs/leafs thing ;)
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@MooingRawr Wow, that guy is trash.
Oh...soccer drama is crazy. Stadiums are marked by which door the supporting side needs to go through
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I hope he made it in time to the line to take a photo with the easter bunny so he could tell all the kids that easter is a pagan holiday stolen by monotheists
@tristan just for the record, which Arsenal are we referring to?
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.. there's more than one?
17:01
^^
@DSM yes
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@idjaw I legitimately don't understand why the fans go so nuts. It's a game based on kicking the ball around and feigning injury.
funny thing I asked my mom what was that all about and was her team really the bad guys, she told me "oh hes probably a Chelsea fan boy, and you decide if we are the bad guys. Do we tell off the other side's fan?"
there is RUssian Arsenal F.C. too but I doubt he was referring to it
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@danidee Isn't this like asking "Which CocaCola do you mean?" Obviously Arsenal F.C. (ha, sorry this seems like i'm upset, i'm not)
17:02
Just wanted to be sure cuz there's arsenalhockey.com/arsenal-history?locale=en
I am....you related CocaCola to Arsenal. We're not friends anymore.
He thought you were cheering for Russian Arsenal, and yelled at you for being a communist.
and i don't know shit about hockey (in all it's forms)
@MooingRawr I'm not really a football fan fullstop. However, my brother's an Arsenal supporter so...
@tristan it's a way of relief from swallowed emotions during the week.
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17:03
I think I'm just bad enough of a person to start conversations about Arsenal with soccer fans and be just ambiguous enough so it takes minutes to realize I'm talking about this hockey team.
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@danidee that's never stopped anyone from picking a side :)
While we have Arsenal fans present, what does "they always try to walk it in" actually mean?
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@khajvah but..they watch soccer. A game in which you take out your impotent rage by pretending to be injured...
Do they just sort of casually amble towards the goal?
(... I worry that this is the silence of a half dozen fans typing up a multiparagraph explanation)
^^ exactly that
they are a passing team....they "walk it in"
look at that beauty
LOOK AT IT!!!
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17:05
Well, one of us is walking wrong, and I don't think it's me.
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That works like once for every fifty times it fails.
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Seems terrible inefficient to bounce a ball between several people while trying to get some grocery shopping done
@tristan correct criticism of football but supporters are following their older generation when footbal used to be manly
@idjaw You beat me to it!...wanted to show the one of Rosicky though
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@khajvah Oh, did football used to be rugby?
17:06
Oh, walking in the "back and forth with gradual forward movement" sense of walking drives. Got it.
@tristan maybe not but it was without divers for sure
@idjaw I remember seeing that, my mind was blown on how beautiful football could be
football is more dramatic than many other sports, that can be a reason too
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Diving is why Americans can't get into soccer.
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We hate cheaters and people that manipulate others by feigning injury.
17:07
TBH Arsenal reminds me of German national team, so efficient. welp off to lunch
:3417650 English football is fairly good from that perspectie
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If you took out the diving, we'd be interested, mostly because it would only take us a few years to have the best teams in the world :)
Spanish are diving every 3 minutes for example
USA is really pumping in a lot to improve their national team. They have been impressive
^yes
17:09
I understand that an important part of American football is convincing the officials that you aren't injured, even if you can't remember your own name.
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Can we please have a compromise where people admit that they are hurt iff they are hurt
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There's diving in proper football (the one where you carry/throw/try to capture the egg), but it's not as obvious and its importance matters less.
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@idjaw: they certainly lost impressively to Costa Rica.. #recencybias
@DSM heheh ziiing
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Americans that like soccer outside of world cup drinking only pretend to like soccer to be different. They're like normie hipsters.
what about baseball?
besides football, I would watch hockey only or rugby
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17:11
You gain nothing from feigning injury in baseball.
Is there anywhere else Baseball is popular outside of North America and Japan?
but football is the most dramatic, I think
I have a deep bias against baseball because it would regularly pre-empt The Simpsons, which was my primary source of entertainment while visiting Grandma Kevinson's house.
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@idjaw Latin America and the Caribbean
@tristan oh definitely! I forgot that.
17:13
Are there any sports where the timer starts at X minutes, and it counts inexorably downwards regardless of penalties and breaks and commercial interruption?
I guess Europe and rest of Asia, Oceania don't care much for the sport.
My least favorite part of American Football is how it takes three minutes for the clock to go down thirty seconds.
@Kevin Soccer. There are no commercials during the game. It's continuous time. The referee adds extra time before the end of each half depending on how many stoppages in the game there were to make up for lost time to in fact play as much of the 45 minute half as much as possible.
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@Kevin Airhockey
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I'm not much of a geographer but I thought the Caribbean etc. were technically NorthAm.
17:13
@Kevin football
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Soccer clocks stop on flags.
proper football
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@DSM Then why is it south of America, DSM? Stick to your sciences, Science Man
And ideally there should be no possibility of overtime. I want a sport that respects its television airing window, basically
@tristan it stops only on halftime
@Kevin that's a weird thing to desire to be honest.
17:15
@Kevin So, hockey isn't continuous, but it respects the time during the regular season. The longest it will run is a 5 minute over time and then a shoot-out
arguably...in the worst case scenario, a shoot-out can go on "forever"
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It's not crazy to prefer a sport which has a definite time involved, so you know what you're in for.
is it so unreasonable to want to watch a sport from 6:00 to 7:00 and then watch cartoons from 7:00 to 8:00? Porque no los dos?
volleyball in this case is the most non predictable sport
@DSM don't recommend cricket then :)
17:16
oh goodness...cricket has tea breaks
it ends when one of the teams have 2 points of advantage, so in theory they can play forever
because it is so long
@Kevin overtime in football for exmaple is usually about 5 minutes
it's nuts
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It's a Test, alright.. a test of patience!
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17:17
Are there any sports that take place in discrete time, and the clock reflects distinct periods in your life, such as "birth of first child" and "understanding death"?
@tristan cricket
that shit goes on for so long
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okay, the joke was bad, but it's not so bad i'd hear crickets
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The only sport in that sense.. is life. #deep
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note to self, if i ever play the "Life" board game with DSM, be on guard for an errant tackle
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17:19
pictured: four chumps smiling because they haven't been hit against the boards yet by DSM
damn
I want to post the Calvin and Hobbes comic that demonstrates how Monopoly is best enjoyed as a contact sport, but my opening salvo of google searches turned up nothing.
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LargeCanadianCity has one of those game-pubs where they have hundreds of games and you play while drinking. Not a bad place to spend an evening with friends.
bla bla bla drinking. Not a bad place to spend an evening with friends.
I agree
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Now, now. I have friends who don't drink, and though they don't drink, they're (pause one beat) still friends of mine.
17:21
On reflection, I'm probably confusing these two strips as a single amalgamated strip.
Probably because both of the punchlines are addressed directly at the reader. Smash that fourth wall, Calvin.
@Kevin I don't remember the monopoly contact sport comic strip
Yes, I've decided it was a figment of my imagination.
I remember the one where Hobbs robs the bank xD
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@idjaw: would you have gotten it just from the pattern or did the (pause one beat) help?
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17:23
@idjaw there will be a day that i can hear that intro without playing on an air keyboard with my index fingers, but today is not that day
@DSM pattern :)
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"we can dance we can dance, everyone look at your hands" lol it's like a square dancing instructor talking to people on acid
I remember Rogers ( a cable, phone, and internet provider for Canada) release some stats about how 95% of their customers are watching TV on saturday night around 7 pm. I wonder what they were watching >-o
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@MooingRawr They already told you: T.V.
^^
17:27
@tristan You got me.
@tristan in the mood to be distracted with a game of worms or something?
The TV isn't on. The family gathers in the living room, making themselves comfortable. They stare at the dark screen, not speaking, not blinking, breathing shallow, pulse twittering, for precisely 30 minutes.
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@JonClements Sorry, I need to get a couple components done in JS. If you're around in a few hours, I'm in (or if you want to pick a time tomorrow)
Then they get up and go about their business as usual.
@Kevin pre ritual for watching a playoff game ?
17:28
@tristan no worries - let's see what happens :)
@Kevin at their smartphones
tv is on because otherwise silence would be unbearable
Hi!
@MooingRawr We're not sure. Asking the participants about the phenomenon usually only gets you denials that anything happened, and violence if you keep pressing the issue.
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Time to go sort out the new API which the vendor is recommending I use because their example code in their original SDK doesn't work.
Rhubarb for all!
We got "smart"phones, and then "smart"TV, and now I'm waiting for "smart"Computers.
17:29
Do you know how to find all your questions in SO and even StackExchange posted around 01/04/2015 ?
I don't find the search syntax...
Take care DSM \o
@Basj just go to your profile and find them there
@marxin in my SE profile, they are sorted by vote... not by date
There is a sorting in above table
in top right corner
url?
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17:31
@Basj are you serious? there are three buttons for sorting. click them and see what happens
you have "newest" sorting above table, in questions tab
Hmm, initially I thought python: print in the same line and overwrite the previous was just a plain old dupe of "how do I make a progress bar?", but he's already using carriage returns and the output still isn't right...
@Basj wow... just try here already :p
Must be a shell / IDE that doesn't react to carriage returns in the usual way.
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This link is custom-generated for @Basj. No one else click it: link
17:33
@tristan I found it for SO, of course :) but not for SE
@tristan thanks ;)
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Happy to help.
lol
you are evil
@tristan: of course I searched (and found) for SO... but the problem is that I don't find the same for SE...
Oh no, faced with the "do not touch" dilemma. My will power is being tested, but I am weak.... but I'm scared of what Tristan will do to me..... help...
so it might be trivial but not as trivial as you said ;)
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17:34
@Basj No, it is :)
@tristan Really! Maybe I'm blind now after 6.5 hours of teaching today :) haha
@tristan i have now looked 10 times... do you see an option to sort by date in SE user page?
Hard solution: take the solution that works for SO, and apply it individually to each site that you have an account for
O(N) ain't bad for small N.
for community in my_stack_exchange_communities:
go to profile page
questions
sort by newest
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Or, here's the official SE help form: stackoverflow.com/contact
@tristan so you recognize it's not as trivial as it might sound...
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17:38
Kicked because take a hint that a solution exists and it's definitively not to keep asking people in here for support using your mouse to click things.
@Kevin im not sure your answer to searching a list actually addresses OP's question at all
I didnt realize it was you when i left the comment on the answer
oh its not you
...
imposter kevin
@tristan Maybe there was a misunderstanding about what I want to achieve, but anyway, let's forget about it...
I tolerate the other Kevins as long as they don't try to take over my life, doppelganger style. If you suspect that this has happened, my codeword is "loquacious".
@Basj as I understand, SE is a pool of communities and Stack Overflow is one of its communities. And now the flow for getting all messages would be to go trough your communities and get the questions
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17:41
@Basj There wasn't a misunderstanding :)
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But forgotten.
I don't know if there is any way to get them merged together from all communities
@marxin Yes exactly. That's why I said to the person who kicked me, that it's not just a matter of a few clicks with mouse :)
I stop about this topic :) no worries...
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@Basj It is though, go to each site. This isn't SE support.
I'll do it in O(N)
17:42
@Basj no one kicked you, he pasted a link to logout as a joke :)
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No, I kicked him. And then again now because "let's forget about it", but still talking indirectly about it and me :)
Man, Cox has a racket going.
$80 for internet, except right now it doesn't work
and they want to charge me for their fault
@Basj in worst case you can write a script to fetch them
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@marxin Let it go :) He's a big boy/girl, he/she can figure it out or ask for help via the formal channels
eh, yeah, I agree
17:45
@WayneWerner What's a Cox racket?
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@marxin Cheers buddy, sorry for stomping on your words
Huh... what question is this answering? Confused...
no worries, I agree with you but well, he tried to do his best :D
people, lost creatures
someone agreeing with Tristan? What's happening to the world!? :p
@JonClements looks like a mistake, twas deleted.
17:47
Nov 4 at 17:56, by Kevin
I've got a lot of sympathy, but SO is a beach with a million dying starfish.
@MooingRawr It's the sound that they make when they charge $80 for Internet, then their equipment doesn't work, so they want to send a tech out to "figure out what's wrong", who will come and look at the modem (and I literally mean look - he didn't touch it), shrug, say, "Yep, that's a modem", then walk outside, look at the connection between the house and the power lines, and then leave in under 5 minutes. And charge us $80 for the privilege.
is that even legal ?
Where I live, the technician has to come out and fix it, we don't pay for the service since it's covered with our billing. The plus side is, service gets fixed with in a day or two so idk.... what other palces
only like 50% python related, but...does anyone have tips regarding when to normalize data vs scale data?
@kevin, that /r thing isn't working on the IDE that comes with Python for me at least
18:02
sorry yeah '\r' i mean
How you doing
Is this c++ code : for (i=0 ; i<N ;i++)
   M[i][i] =i
equal to this in python
i=0
while i<n:
M[i][i]=i
i+=1
It might be. It's also syntactically valid in a number of other languages.
Oh, I thought were you asking "is this code written in c++?"
18:04
Could be C I think
Oh.
Anyway. I'm pretty sure those two pieces of code are equivalent, yes.
Not sure about M[i][i]=i but the rest is yeah.
why is one a while loop and one a for loop
Although it's more idiomatic to use for i in range(N):
@johnsmith if m is a n length list of n length lists, then yes, but keep in mind that in c++ you talk about arrays, in python these are lists
18:06
for loops are just syntactic sugar over while loops. [citation needed]
Ok thanks , I am trying to read a c++ code for segment trees
Go away for a little and I see there's been some kickin' going on here
Well good evening mr.@Andras
Introducing Netflix Vista https://youtu.be/ChUcIpIiOlk @blackmirror
Ah, school wll never be boring again with that @Wayne
18:17
@WayneWerner hmm..I wonder if I convince a certain someone in my life that this is a new Netflix product.
See how long I can keep it going
Hahah
Actually, I think that could be possible to be done
Well, not with lenses but with glasses, yeah.
Does a table M[0, N][0, N] in c++ equivalent to a N*N matrix ?
I know I want it :D
@WayneWerner oh my that would be disorienting
Did netflix just take on netflix as a social issue?
18:25
cabbage
Um... Step 0 - yup - can tell this document is by a programmer :p
But not a lua or matlab programmer
or fortran
Fortran is 1-indexed? I'm finally forgetting the painful parts, good.
18:28
MATLAB inherits a lot of its syntax from fortran 90, as I see it
in fortran you can explicitly start arrays at any integer, but the default is 1
18:40
So, pretty cool that I'm chatting right now via my Raspberry Pi as a wireless router. Sad that connecting through my mac doesn't seem to work
well if your mac doesn't work but other devices too, you should be posting to askdifferent:P ;)
yeah, I think I'll probably delete the one from RPi... maybe?
it seems bad to crosspost, but it also seems like it's the kind of problem that might get searched for in either place :P
I don't actually understand any of the subject, so can't help you
Oh man, I love that I now know about ^this^that on the Linux command line
$ do_this thing with a bunch of arguments
command not found: do_this
$ ^this^that
do_that thing with a bunch of arguments
18:54
@WayneWerner wow, haven't seen that yet

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