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1:32 AM
Irony:
Me:
"If there is the possibility of junk data, use TryParse instead.
That one will throw if you give it crap
(hoping to head off yet another FormatException SO question)
Not that you would do that
but we get a lot of them"
*very next message* :
"okay so I got "An unhandled exception of type 'System.FormatException' occurred in mscorlib.dll" where this parse is done"
facepalm
 
 
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5:04 AM
 
 
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10:14 AM
I have invited RiggsFolly here for a little chat, lets hope they come.
 
10:25 AM
Hi, this is a new experience
 
@RiggsFolly Yes, this chat was suggested by another user here: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/22091/teenage-programmers-chatroom
@RiggsFolly I respect that all you're trying to do here is give a good answer, but myself being a VC++ programmer I know more about the VC++ libraries than you may.
@RiggsFolly I find it's a common misconception that if a program has the error about the missing VC++ library, it's the program itself that needs it. This is not possible if the program starts up.
 
Hi, oh right its you, probably a good idea to clear the air, as we both got a bit out of hand yesterday.
 
@RiggsFolly My answer says that it's Apache that requires the VC++ 2010 libraries, and that's what I found when I checked.
Your suggestion about installing the VC++ 2012 libraries will not help as they are not the libraries that are causing the problem. The VC++ DLL has '10', which references to the compiler version and the version of Visual Studio, which is why installing the VC++ libraries will fix this.
@RiggsFolly Yeah, I agree with that.
 
Your answer says that MVSCR110.dll is the MSVC 2010 runtime library. I believe it is fact the MSVC 2012 runtime library
An I wrong there
#Am I wrong
 
@RiggsFolly Yeah, you're wrong there.
 
Oh, stupid Microsoft and their versioning, yeah, you're right.
I apologize.
 
I know that whole runtime area is a nightmare to keep track of
 
Compiler 110 is VS2010, but apparently the library refers to VS2012.
Confusing.
 
The reason i answered the questioners original AND Second question was that I assumed he had been frightened by out "War of Words" and tried to clean up his question, rather than asking a totally new question.
 
@RiggsFolly True, but then that was an invalid edit since it look the required information out of the question.
 
10:39 AM
Although as I said in the answer it seems strange that he gets this error when WAMPServer 2.2.whatever did not release any exe that was compiled with VS 2012
So I guess he ay have actually tried to install WAMPServer 2.5 after asking the first question. Which mean he was being naughty and asking a different question with his second edit.
 
@RiggsFolly Yeah, the whole question is confusing. You're right in saying 'what version are you using?' but then as they've provided that they're using WampServer 2.4, we need to work with that version.
 
I just thought it nicer to give him the benefit of the doubt and just try and answer the question as best as I could for both possible senarios
 
Yeah, then we have this answer:
-5
A: Showing Error opening of WAMP server

Jean Gkolwhen you migrate to windows 8.1, MVSCR110.dll is outdated. then, it should be updated and installed into your PC again.

 
Have they? It still says 2.2 and does not mention the a,c,d or e version extension
Yea well like you said that one is just wrong in many ways
 
like:
when you migrate to windows 8.1, MVSCR110.dll is outdated
uh, what?
 
10:46 AM
Right
Anyway, if you are a C++ prog, you probably have the tools to see what MSVC runtime is used by wampmanager.exe, could you check that for me please. I think I am right, but it never hurts to geta second opinion
 
11:07 AM
If you were to edit your answer and correct the msvc110 = 2010 problem I am more than happy to remove my downvote, as that was the only reason I gave a downvote. It was not in anyway vindictive.
@BradleyDotNET I appologise for getting into a war of words with this chap, but if you look at our discussion, we seem to have patched up our difference.
He agreed that I was right about MSVC110 being a reference to the VC2012 runtime.
@BradleyDotNET In regards to his suggestion that I added back my comment after it was deleted by a moderator was incorrect. I actually missed my 5 minute deadline for correcting my comment, DELETED it myself, and then Re-Entered the corrected comment.
 
11:39 AM
@BradleyDotNET As you may see, I offered to remove my downvote when/if he corrects what he has admitted is an error with the MSVCR110=VC2010 Redist but he now seems to have gone away, maybe work got in the way.
@BradleyDotNET My answer has been edited by cybermonkey to improve it to his satisfaction, by removing the content he felt was unnecessary, I dont agree, but the edit has been approved by others, thats democracy. Although it still has his downvote I assume. I am tempted to just delete my answer and leave the questioner to solve his problems another way. I assume he already has as he has not made any comment recently
 
12:37 PM
@RiggsFolly I edited my answer to reflect it being VC++ 2012, perhaps it was rolled-back somehow?
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ You missed the first line where it says msvc110 = 2010
 
@RiggsFolly Didn't see that, edited.
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Actually you also missed the Quoted section and the links you provide also still go to the MSVC2010 download and not the MSVC2012
 
@RiggsFolly Read it again, there's a reason why I said 'for an older version', anyhow I'll update it.
 
12:53 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Ok now I am going to download each of the WAMPServer 2.2a/c/d/e installs and check my facts as to which version was compiled with which version of MSVC
 
@RiggsFolly It's not WampServer, it's Apache..
 
Then I will update the WAMPServer forum post so there is absolutely no confusion about which version of the compiler and therefore runtime Apache/MySQL/PHP needs in each version
 
WampServer has everything it requires otherwise it wouldn't be able to run, but Apache can't run which is why the OP has this problem.
 
Yea I know
But its strange he claimed that MySQL was running, or at least I think he did? when both Apache and MySQL would have been compiled with the same compiler.
 
Would it? I thought MySQL used its own DLL?
yeah, can be the same compiler but not the same version.
 
12:57 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Anyway, I am now not 100% sure of my facts so I am going to check to be absolutely sure. I have been meaning to do this for ages, just have not made the time.
I have a Windows 10 Preview Virtual Machine that is vanilla apart from msvc2012 and msvc2008 which I had to download to get WAMPServer 2.5 running
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Out of interest, what do you use to query an executable about what dll's it requires
 
 
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2:02 PM
Hiya!
 
HI
did you want me or just anybody?
 
anybody
 
3:02 PM
Any idea how likely it is to close this question?
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Q: Sleep less than one millisecond

sminkOn Windows, you have a problem you typically never encounter on Unix. That is how to get a thread to sleep for less than one millisecond. On Unix you typically have a number of choices (sleep, usleep and nanosleep) to fit your needs. On Windows, however, there is only Sleep with millisecond granu...

 
voted as unclear what you're asking
 
Yeah, I also did that, but I'm worried that it'll be declined because it's an old, upvoted question..
It doesn't actually ask anything, lol
hm, actually might be closed and protected as 'Historically Significant'.
should I raise a custom mod flag to request that or what, standard close practices don't do that
It's obviously a good post since it wouldn't have that many upvotes otherwise.
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ agree to this
 
this:
it must've been VTC'd at least a couple of times within the last 7 years..
 
Hum, let's see if SEDE says anything
 
3:09 PM
'SEDE'?
 
Stack Exchange Data Explorer
 
yeah, that's one of the things I find funny, via the SEDE you can see votes, deleted questions, comments, etc, even if you're not registered.
 
3:11 PM
though most of the votes are anonymised
so unless I did something wrong, no one has ever voted to close this
 
hm, try:
`select *
from Votes v
where PostId = 85122`
 
mostly upvotes
 
3:14 PM
huh, says no one has ever VTC'd
 
^ I added the names
Now, I don't know if "expired" close votes are in the database or not
 
huh, might not be showing our votes because it's cached
 
it's cached for about a week
 
SEDE is refreshed every monday
 
but yeah, probably doesn't show for expired votes
 
3:16 PM
> Data updated Feb 8 at 5:58
 
Now we wait:
 
I think that was caused by FOX
 
yep, I cv'd as unclear, marking one of your flags as valid
 
4:09 PM
@RiggsFolly No problem, glad you guys got it sorted out.
 
 
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5:26 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ It seems like it was a rather poor attempt at a self-answer
definitely no question asked as you noted
 
6:12 PM
@BradleyDotNET Gotta love it when someone steals an answer from the comments before the commenter can provide a full answer: stackoverflow.com/a/28461223/2422013
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ not sure if that's a "sucks to be you" moment or not
 
@gunr2171 yeah, anyway I got one upvote and the 'stealer' hasn't got any :P
 
Careful, the time is short enough that it may not have been stolen at all
 
win-win
 
I've posted answers that said the same thing as a comment a minute later with no stealing
 
6:15 PM
@gunr2171 Any idea if moderators can see all edits, even those made within a grace period?
 
no idea
 
was making a Meta post asking this
 
my guess is "no"
 
I'm pretty sure the answer is no
no revision is made for edits within the grace period
pretty sure there have been requests for an "Initial revision" revision to be made to help solve conflicts
 
6:17 PM
One tactic if you see an answer that is just a "placeholder" and content is added during the grace period: make a simple edit yourself (add a new line or something) to force the old revision to stick
 
If its really bad, thats a good strategy. Of course, there isn't technically anything wrong with the placeholder answer. Even if you flag to say "Look! This was bad once!" I wouldn't expect a moderator to act on it.
You can always downvote to show your disapproval though :)
 
True: don't abuse it.
 
@BradleyDotNET Yeah, because I edited my answer meaning the first comment on it is now obsolete, but the edit doesn't show because I edited within the 5 minute grace period.
Unsure whether my flag will be accepted or not if the mod can't see that I edited it.
 
One of the reasons its usually a bad idea to flag right away if you think the user will edit
 
Nah, I flagged the comment as obsolete because it no longer applies.
 
6:25 PM
Comment flags are a bit different anyways :)
 
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Q: Can reviewers view edits made within the 5-minute grace period?

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔI answered this question, and a user commented that the syntax of the provided code was incorrect: I corrected it within the five minute grace period, and consequently flagged the comment as [obsolete] as it no longer applies. I'm concerned that my flag will be declined on the basis that whoe...

lol, look how many upvotes I got
 
 
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8:20 PM
@BradleyDotNET Who's correct? stackoverflow.com/questions/28425879/…
Who's right in the case of a duplicate and the OP has already tried the solution in the duplicate but it didn't work and that the OP mentioned that in their question.
 
9:20 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ You are right... mostly
The OP didn't explain what didn't work about the duplicate
so we have no information to provide the correct answer
So until they say "I tried X from Y post and Z happened, buy I wanted W", its still pretty much a duplicate
 
9:40 PM
@BradleyDotNET True, but it's not a duplicate anymore since the duplicate was removed
 
Then yes, its not a duplicate :)
 
Sooo, anyone care to guess how much bandwidth I have on my dedicated server? :)
*how much bandwidth I can have each month
@BradleyDotNET How about you? :)
 
I have no idea
1 TB
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ I use about 250-350GB a month
 
@gunr2171 then guess how much I have available on my webserver? :)
 
9:47 PM
a lot
 
@gunr2171 10,000TB
 
> ~~ 0.1 × purported storage capacity of the character Data in Star Trek: The Next Generation ( 8×10^17 b )
 
hm
meh
@gunr2171 also, try and guess my actual connection speed (upload and download) :)
 
I would be grateful for 50mb up or down
so I'm guessing higher
 
well yeah, it's at a datacentre
 
9:51 PM
well that doesn't really count when your ISP is one rack over from your computer
well, got to leave for today
 
true
I'll test a US server
Testing connection to Chicago in the US:
Given that the test server was in the US and my dedicated server's in the UK, that's not too bad.
 

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